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12:00 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ender
I'm sorry if my comment was a little rude, but closing a question trying to re-open another unfair close is not helpful. — Ender 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ender
@HenryEcker, I looked at that post, it is using selenium and webdriver, but webbot does not even run on selenium or webdriver. I appreciate the help, but that still doesn't answer my question. — Ender 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
It is helpful, because it tells you what the appropriate procedure is for getting a question re-opened. The procedure is not whining about it and calling it unfair. — Cody Gray ♦ 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
And yet.... webbot is a Python library built on top of Selenium... — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
"Might be good to get that sewn up in a nice and easy-to-understand way, I think." Robert Harvey is a lot of things, but unclear isn't one of them. It's difficult to see how "Yes, they are spam" could be made easier to understand. This has been the convention for as long as I can remember... — Cody Gray ♦ 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Henry Ecker
Cody is correct. Selenium is the only dependency for webbot. It most certainly does "run on selenium and webdriver" it's literally the first line of the only function you've called in your snippet (Browser.__init__) — Henry Ecker 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
@Gimby Being a dupe is not equivalent to a question being "too easy". Plenty of extremely hard questions are duplicates, and sometimes even seeing the fact that they're duplicates is extremely hard and requires domain-specific knowledge. I simply don't buy the equivalence you're implying between simplicity and duplicate. There's incidental overlap (in the sense that very basic questions are likely to have been answered already on a site that is over a decade old), but nothing more. Besides, new technologies come about all the time, where basic questions about them haven't been answered. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by SuperStormer
I presume you've followed what's listed in the linked dupe then (ie. ensured that Chrome is installed in the proper location)? — SuperStormer 38 secs ago
 
12:50 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ender
Ok. First off, sorry for being rude. I generally try to stay positive on this site. Second, sorry for not figuring out webbot is built on top of selenium. I will try to figure this out on my own even if my question is closed. Sorry again. I still would like my post re-opened if that is possible. — Ender 56 secs ago
 
1:28 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Poul Bak
I don't know a single magic link. Should I be ashamed? — Poul Bak 41 secs ago
 
2:05 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JK.
This is an extremely poorly thought out message. It strongly implies that to the user that the system thinks their question is good. When in fact what actually happened is that there were no strong red flags in the question. When the question gets downvoted and closed, the user will be more upset than usual.. "But you said my question was good!!" Wording is important. — JK. 40 secs ago
 
 
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3:18 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ryan M
Separately, if the Chrome version doesn't matter, should the title of the duplicate target be changed? (I know nothing at all about the subject matter, so don't take this as opining on whether the Chrome version matters) — Ryan M ♦ 1 min ago
 
 
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6:03 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
The interesting thing is that 18 months have passed without change, or did it change (not having asked for a while). If yes it would be an extreme version of never change a running system. — Trilarion 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
@IanCampbell ".. it looks just like normal behavior." That's what the question here is based on. It looks suspicious because it's upvotes where usually downvotes are warranted. In order to find such anomalies one would kind of calculate some correlation of individual voting behavior vs. general voting behavior and look for outliers. But that still might not be a misuse just a different opinion and the company probably does not have the tools for that available. — Trilarion 11 secs ago
 
6:25 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rohan B.
Was this kind of edit seriously required? — Rohan B. 12 secs ago
 
7:00 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
"IDK if this was due to changes in moderator workload, or just that the first question was handled by mod deletion and thus the flag was marked helpful for the wrong reason, not for the voting report." The flag was, indeed, marked helpful at the same time as the post was deleted, but I wouldn't assume that was accidental. Mods tend to know how the system works & take advantage of it to save clicks. I'd say it's just different mods handling flags differently. It's true that a single suspicious upvote isn't really actionable, but those flags can be useful to bring other issues to our attention — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
I really don't have time to investigate this particular report/concern at the moment, but I honestly doubt any mod will be able to answer this question, as our tools just don't work to give us visibility into this. We can easily investigate suspicious voting by/on users, but we have no way to investigate suspicious voting on posts (e.g., up/downvoting all posts with a particular tag). That kind of thing requires a staff member to investigate. Mods could escalate to staff and request that be done, if it's something egregious enough to merit the time for all parties involved. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
@CodyGray: I didn't mean truly "accidental", I was guessing that Martijn intentionally chose to handle the flag in a way that would mark it as helpful because the very-low-quality part was helpful, even if the voting part wasn't. I'd assumed that mods could see who voted on a post, and had other tools to dig further. The fact that only staff can usefully investigate makes it pretty clear that it's not useful to report one-offs that aren't worth a mod escalating for staff attention. You might want to say that in an answer, as general guidance about what mods can usefully do. — Peter Cordes 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
I'm thinking to myself why don't I ask a question now to get some upvotes Aren't upvotes worthless in meta? — TheMaster 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
I believe sockpuppetting is not disallowed on SO, if used for legitimate reasons. — TheMaster 5 secs ago
 
7:33 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
@TheMaster: Fair enough, rephrased to just say that voting for yourself via another account is disallowed. — Peter Cordes 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark Setchell
@PoulBak No, I've been noodling around on here for 9 years and this is the first time I've ever seen the editing help. And I still have no idea what the heck a "Community Wiki" is or why anybody would want one. — Mark Setchell 1 min ago
 
8:03 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
I am not aware of any legitimate use of sockpuppetting, @TheMaster. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
@CodyGray: Perhaps they mean "having a secondary account". A very few users do that openly, although the only one I know of is Ciro Santilli. I wouldn't be surprised if others have anonymous accounts, e.g. for workplace.SE questions where they don't want to self-identify. But using the term "sockpuppet" to describe it has connotations of being up to no good. — Peter Cordes 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
@TheMaster: That sentence is not talking about this meta question, it's idly / jokingly considering posting a question on main SO to ride that apparent train of free upvotes on every question regardless of quality. — Peter Cordes 1 min ago
 
 
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9:27 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
@CodyGray The wiki, per my understanding, says otherwise: "a sockpuppet account can be legitimate, provided you play by the rules." — TheMaster 1 min ago
 
10:20 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by seshadri_c
This post should've shown the new voting buttons alongside an example question/answer. How the buttons look in isolation is not very useful. I saw this change because this design looks out of sync from the rest of UI. Also, were any other design options considered? — seshadri_c 1 min ago
 
10:32 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marco Bonelli
Oh man... this makes me miss all the beautiful custom up/down vote arrows on different StackExchange sites :'( — Marco Bonelli 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marco Bonelli
@TylerH you can always use a bigger hammer and repeat the class multiple times: .cls.cls { foo: baz !important; } overrides .cls { foo: bar !important; }Marco Bonelli 52 secs ago
 
10:47 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
Just be careful and make sure you have or have consulted with someone who has domain knowledge before making a decision. You might assume python-unittest is just equal to python + unit-testing but it's actually about a specific library, for example. — Erik A 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@ErikA also something that has been bothering me [fetch] + [api] when the question uses the Fetch API in JavaScript the correct tag is [fetch-api]. And both of the other tags are rather unspecific by themselves. — VLAZ 11 secs ago
 
11:00 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
Yup, that's why I'm in favor of specific tag names (e.g. js-fetch-api, python-unittest-lib, etc) but that's a different discussion. The model where a random user chooses a tag name and we have to either stick with it or involve meta and mods is not really optimal for the scale of SO, imo. — Erik A 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Patrice
@Ender did you read the duplicate you got linked to from here? Cause that post explains how to get your question reopened. And it's not by adding 'sorry, can it get reopened?'. You'll need to edit your original question, explain why the duplicate doesn't apply. Which likely means you will need to dig a bit deeper... Which hopefully may be the right way to figure out your solution. — Patrice 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chivracq
... Typo in my (User)Name... (Should be chivracq...) (I'll remove my Comment "later"...) — chivracq 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Four significant digits, for example, "55.61%", does not make sense (suggesting a level of precision that isn't there). Counting statistics alone give a best-case relative uncertainty of about 3%, thus a maximum number of significant digits of about 2. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
 
11:47 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kai Burghardt
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Perhaps add the (short) gist of the code before it is listed? E.g., it is not clear until the end whether it parses an RSS feed or is the using Stack Exchange API. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark Amery
@CodyGray better than the sockpuppet wiki entry, see this old answer by Shog9. Having multiple accounts is not per se against the rules; abuse of multiple accounts (including voting on one's own posts, boosting ones own arguments, or bypassing bans or limits) is against the rules. I've used sockpuppets on other Stack Exchange sites myself in the past when - for one reason or another - having my post attached to my real name might pose a legal risk to me, my employer, or those I care about. — Mark Amery 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
And it is not supported by an RSS feed? — Peter Mortensen 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Digital Farmer
Hi @PeterMortensen the code does this: it accesses the unanswered questions in the API and sorts according to the time of publication, those that have not yet been saved to a local csv file, are opened in new browser tabs. The problem is that browsers don't have options via code to open tabs in the background (unfocused), so if I'm looking at a page, the code will open new tabs one on top of the other in the foreground and the one I look gets lost in the middle of the others. (the idea would be to look, see if I had something to edit, if not, I would close and look at the next one and so on) — Digital Farmer 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
@Digital Farmer: So part of the gist is to automate the opening of new tabs, instead of having to do it manually? — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Digital Farmer
Exactly @PeterMortensen ! But the problem is on Windows (using Python) the new tabs overlap the active tab, this is quite annoying, (I need to open a feature request in Chrome and Firefox about this). — Digital Farmer 42 secs ago
 
12:33 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
@Digital Farmer: Tabs can moved / rearranged with Shift + Ctrl + PgDn and Shift + Ctrl + PgUp. The current tab can be changed with Shift + Ctrl + Tab and Ctrl + Tab. (I have all four on my macro keyboard.) You may be able to send those using AutoIt or similar (I don't know about Python). — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
@Digital Farmer: Tabs can moved / rearranged with Shift + Ctrl + PgDn and Shift + Ctrl + PgUp. The current tab (that is to be moved) can be changed with Shift + Ctrl + Tab and Ctrl + Tab. (I have all four on my macro keyboard.) You may be able to send those using AutoIt or similar (I don't know about Python). (I once used AutoIt to automate all manual steps for the typical workflow related to developing an .NET application on Windows with Visual Studio, including some user startup procedures in the application). — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
@Digital Farmer: Tabs can moved / rearranged with Shift + Ctrl + PgDn and Shift + Ctrl + PgUp. The current tab (that is to be moved) can be changed with Shift + Ctrl + Tab and Ctrl + Tab. (I have all four on my macro keyboard.) You may be able to send those using AutoIt or similar (I don't know about Python). (I once used AutoIt to automate otherwise repetitive manual steps for the typical workflow related to developing an .NET application on Windows with Visual Studio, including some user startup procedures in the application.) — Peter Mortensen 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
The "I won't, and don't think anyone else should, waste time with this question" button is shaped like a downward-facing triangle, @Martin. Don't confuse it with the close link. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Denis Howe
I didn't bother to mention the non-problem of comments with too many lines (but still within the total character limit) because there are obvious solutions, e.g. max lines limit or some fancy measure of how tall and thin the comment is. — Denis Howe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Or in other words, you can open a new tab to the left by opening it, move it to the left with Shift + Ctrl + PgUp, and switch back to the original tab with Ctrl + Tab. — Peter Mortensen 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Or in other words, you can open a new tab to the left by opening it, move it to the left with Shift + Ctrl + PgUp, and switch back to the original tab with Ctrl + Tab. (I have a macro key on my macro keyboard that uses that for the link under the cursor (using a right mouse click by the macro keyboard as the first action).) — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Denis Howe
I didn't bother to mention comments with too many lines (but still within the total character limit) because there are obvious solutions. A cap on the number of lines (two would be pointless, ten or twenty would be sensible) or maybe some fancy measure of how tall and thin the comment is. Editing the question or answer is relevant in some cases but comments exist for a purpose and they would fulfill that purpose better if they could contain a few newlines. — Denis Howe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
It does require disabling option "Ctrl+Tab cycles through tabs in recently used order" in Firefox. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
It does require disabling option "Ctrl+Tab cycles through tabs in recently used order" in Firefox (it is enabled by default). Hamburger menu (upper right) → "Settings""General" (left panel) → section "Tab" (second section). — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chivracq
Hum..., the whole "Enterprise" doesn't sound very useful to me @OP as you don't have 2k+_Rep, and you'll be clogging the 'Edit'-Queue which is already always full (+ have to wait for 24h-48h before your Edits get approved...), but anyway, the 'Tab Open' Func you want could easily be done using the Tool/Tag (for Web-Automation) I answer on this Site... Link to the iMacros Tag Wiki (which contains all Info)... (But New Tabs always get opened to the Right of Current_Tab...) — chivracq 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Abdul Aziz Barkat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ravindra HV
Have posted as answer. Thanks ! — Ravindra HV 26 secs ago
 
1:57 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Denis Howe
This is a solution to a problem that should not exist. IMHO these proxy-newlines don't add much to readability. — Denis Howe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Denis Howe
@corn on the cob, it doesn't work, it's just a suggested way to mark where a newline should be. — Denis Howe 1 min ago
 
2:37 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jcubic
You have quite some reputation, but you use this as Forum. StackOverflow is not a forum it's a Q&A website even Meta. — jcubic 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user438383
I'll VTC as a typo if you like — user438383 38 secs ago
 
3:23 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Justin
Well, you can't delete it anyway because the answer already has an upvote and an accept. — Justin 42 secs ago
 
3:37 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TTT
@user438383 it sounds like that's the right choice, so yes, please do — TTT 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ender
Sorry for being rude to all the mods. I will try to read the duplicate. I'm really sorry for whining, I just wanted the best for this community and I realized that is not done by whining and calling it unfair. — Ender just now
 
4:00 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
I see negativeness, but it doesn't appear to be cyclical. It's just you complaining about having your questions closed as duplicates over and over and over again. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter is with Ukraine
"Most of the "duplicate" questions are more broad and general than the question being asked" - citation needed. — Oleg Valter is with Ukraine 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by StoryTeller - Unslander Monica
All the points you raise strongly suggest that you are unaware of Stack Overflow's true purpose, or how it operates to accomplish it. If you haven't been told yet, this is not a help desk or a forum. We are not here to give users a warm fuzzy feeling, but to maintain a repository of high quality knowledge so folk may easily help themselves. — StoryTeller - Unslander Monica 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ender
I mean, I try to, but the titles are often complicated and hard to search up. — Ender 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
The people closing your questions as duplicates seem to be able to manage it. More practice/effort required I guess. — Robert Longson 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ender
Oh boy. Every question I ask gives me like -20 reputation. I guess I'll just stop asking questions then. I'll try to search up possible answers first and read up on Stack Overflow's help page. — Ender 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
There's no reputation on Meta. It's copied from the main site. You can't lose reputation here. — Cody Gray ♦ 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz
@Ender "but the titles are often complicated and hard to search up" that's why people here suggest duplicates. They do try to help you (and others with the same problem) find a solution which you did not find yourself -- but it is frustrating that instead of thanking them for their attempts to help, all they get are rants on meta — samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz 8 secs ago
 
4:23 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
@Ender Sounds like the people who are closing your questions are doing you a favour. If you can't find them and others are willing to do it for you then that's awesome, isn't it? Of course, it would be best if you could find them yourself as that is the true purpose of Stack Overflow. — Dharman ♦ 22 secs ago
 
 
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5:25 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by blackgreen
The purpose of closing duplicates is literally to hand you a solution to your problem, which was already encountered by someone else. (And to prevent dispersal of information). Yeah, titles aren’t always easy to search, which is why you should be grateful to people giving you the links you couldn’t find. And you can suggest edits to improve those titles. — blackgreen 1 min ago
 
6:23 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andreas Rejbrand
If you really do care about accessibility, why hasn't the keyboard interface you accidentally broke four months ago been fixed? — Andreas Rejbrand 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Raildex
There is not a single element on SO that has the color black. Except the vote arrows. Maybe you should hire actual designers. — Raildex 29 secs ago
 
6:47 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Abdul Aziz Barkat
Perhaps because as per the timeline of that answer it got an upvote on 1st of June. Although this does bring up a point that maybe recent downvotes should also count more in lowering the sort rank. — Abdul Aziz Barkat 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by sealocal
Thanks for the explanation! — sealocal 38 secs ago
 
7:15 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chivracq
Complete Support...! And I also really miss a Magic Link for Tag Wikis, ... but was already asked, ... and 4 years later still not implemented... — chivracq 34 secs ago
 
 
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8:58 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Do you have a reference for Stack Overflow's UI standard and design style? — Peter Mortensen 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by pppery
Possible duplicate of Where to change password?pppery 37 secs ago
 
9:20 PM
Error while calling API: `HTTP 503 fetching URL https://api.stackexchange.com/2.2/comments. Body is: <html>
<head>
<title>We are Offline</title>
<style type="text/css">
body { margin: 0; padding: 0; }
iframe { border: 0; }
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[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ender
Heh. Don't we all need adblockers like this these days? — Ender 7 secs ago
 
 
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10:43 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
yes it is ugly and unpractible — nbk 1 min ago
 
11:15 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
@TheAmateurCoder: This isn't magic at all, this is the normal [text](url) markdown. Without a (url) part, yeah you just get [text]. The only trick here is using a relative URL. You do of course also have to use the right path. — Peter Cordes 38 secs ago
 
11:53 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kyle Pollard
That would be exactly right - this is a limitation with caching called out in the "Implementation details" section of the announcement. Someone visited the post when it had a score of +1, it got cached, and then two downvotes happened after. The cache hangs around for a couple days. We have plans to fix this limitation. — Kyle Pollard ♦ 1 min ago
 

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