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12:14 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by James Risner
I don't mind skipping. If the answer to this question is "skip", then I need to skip (never review this queue). Because I feel the need to skip everything at this point. I just can't understand how to choose delete or looks ok with the help documentation provided. I can't parse the rules to come to a result. — James Risner 53 secs ago
 
1:03 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
After 14 years and 23,054,967 questions (148,526 questions in the Bash tag) it seems unlikely that they are not duplicates (sorry for the double negative). It doesn't help either that they are posed in broken English (that could be fixed, though). — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
That does not mean a search for duplicates is trivial. It usually isn't. — Peter Mortensen 44 secs ago
 
1:23 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Henry Ecker
Where are you unsure with the "rules"? Regardless of "correctness", it appears (to me, at least) to be "an honest attempt at answering the question." Are you unsure if it "is not low quality"? Or on the Delete side-do you believe this answer "cannot be fixed," and if, so, why is this answer unsalvageable? — Henry Ecker 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
The sorting was changed a few months ago: Now all deleted answers are at the end, even in the oldest first view (like the non-deleted status in the primary key in the sort). Perhaps that is a factor? — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by James Risner
Let me try this a different way. Based on my reading of the LQA rules, the answer that is wrong should be Looks OK because it attempted to answer. I'm 100% certain of that, I have no doubt. For my second link plagiarized copy paste answer (my first linked review) should also be Looks Ok because it is an answer. It's a copy paste answer of the only other answer on the question. I'm also 100% certain of this. I have no doubt. — James Risner 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
(But it hasn't been registered in the change list, as far as I can see.) — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
"Documents" probably refers to the ill-fated "Documentation" project (2016-2017). — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
"Documents" probably refers to the ill-fated "Documentation" project (2015-2017). — Peter Mortensen 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
"Documents" probably refers to the ill-fated "Documentation" project (2015-2017). Yes, two full years (though most people ignored it shortly after it launched, because it immediately filled up with junk that was impossible to remove). — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Re "Lately I notice": Well, it was September not long ago... — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Re "Lately I notice ... new flood gates being opened": Well, it was September only a few days ago... And it is/was Sunday and homework is due Monday. And some are for paid homework. — Peter Mortensen just now
 
2:56 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by New England cottontail
I can't find the relevant meta post but I think you're supposed to raise a custom moderator flag for plagiarized posts explaining that it is a copy-paste job of another answer (and include links to the original of course). — New England cottontail 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sergey Ushakov
@CodyGray These comments are useless -- they may be useless, and may be not; that depends on wording and motivation a lot. Votes are anonymous, by design -- that is true, but commenting on votes should not be discouraged. And invitations to frank and grounded discussions should not be discourgared either. In case discussions are discouraged, we all lose. We all lose mutual enrichment from exchange of opinions that just does not happen. Do you agree? With all that in mind, do you still see reasons for requests for comments still to be banned? — Sergey Ushakov 56 secs ago
 
3:21 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by James Risner
There are these. But I thought I found one addressed things currently in LQA queue. meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/311662 meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/268629James Risner 27 secs ago
 
3:44 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tango
Let me try to take part of what you said and rephrase it to see if I get where the line is. If it's in, "What parameters do I need to use to do this from a script?" that's a programming question. But when it's, "What does sfdisk do and how does it handle this?" then that's not an SE question. Would that be a fair way to put it? — Tango 26 secs ago
 
4:06 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
That sounds about right, yes. — Karl Knechtel 11 secs ago
 
4:19 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tango
Thank - for the answer and the clarification. — Tango 1 min ago
 
4:51 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
"reformatting or copying data back and forth is often a function of what I do in programming" it's more often something a system administrator would do. Or even just a computer repair shop employee. Or just a power user. Neither of them needs to know any programming to perform these tasks. — VLAZ 28 secs ago
 
5:44 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
To clarify, while "They barely state the problem ..." could mean the question is unclear, and "most efficient" could be opinion-based, the "ask for solutions" and "No notion of trying anything first." are not problems really. Questions that directly state a problem clearly do not need to show any attempt at solving the problem, and in fact are better without a failed attempt (unless the attempt is necessary to describe the problem). At the moment this question just reads a bit like a rant, and would benefit a lot from a much clearer description of what problem you've observed. — cigien 1 min ago
 
 
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7:34 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
FWIW you can estimate your rate of skips: click History tab at LQ reviews page and see how many reviews you have done. After that, click checkbox "Show skipped reviews" and check how many reviews it will show now. Out of curiosity, I checked mine: it shows 614 pages (that's about 30K reviews, including audits) and changes to 3482 pages when I check showing skipped reviews. This means about 4 skips to 1 review, or closer to about 5 to one if we discount audits — gnat 14 secs ago
 
8:16 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"For my second link plagiarized copy paste answer (my first linked review) should also be Looks Ok because it is an answer" If you find that an answer is plagiarised you should be raising a custom mod flag, you certainly should not be saying "looks ok". I would suggest visiting the answer, flagging, and then probably skipping. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chivracq
"I read..." => Source: "Hosting: Single tenant (cloud or on-premises)" — chivracq 24 secs ago
 
9:21 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
[meta.so] is exactly the place you post ideas for the site, and you tag it with [feature-request]. Meta uses the same underlying tools that Stack Overflow, and all the other sites use, which means you post a "question", and it receives "answers". In truth, however questions here can be other things, such as annoucements and requests. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by greg-449
Please be sure to search first for existing discussions as many ideas have already been proposed. — greg-449 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Anto
@Larnu So the fact that the post won't call for an answer is not a problem ? Are you sure about it ? I don't want to polluate the site with questions that are not questions. — Anto 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"So the fact that the post won't call for an answer is not a problem ? " People can still post answers to your [feature-request]; they might be an indepth answer as to why your request may not be a good idea, for example, or details on how it could further be improved.# — Larnu 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
"give me their opinion about my ideas / tell me if they aren't applicable and why / what they would change about it / propose other solution to the problem" This sounds a lot like answering. Unless you expect an actual back and forth, the Q&A format of (meta) Stack Overflow will fit nicely. — MisterMiyagi just now
 
9:46 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Anto
@MisterMiyagi Yes, the Q&A format is perfect and exactly what I'd like to use, my concern was about the fact that I will never be accepting an anwer since it's a conversation, there is no possible "right" answer so to speak there are only opinions. If this isn't a problem and is suited for so.meta then I will post on here. I know that on StackOverflow, one should not write a question that will be answer with opinions but maybe this is diffrent on StackOverflow meta ? — Anto 6 secs ago
 
9:59 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 the comment flagger
Accepting an answer has no greater meaning here. But note that you should not be pressured into accepting an answer on the main site either. — E_net4 the comment flagger 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by James Risner
@gnat Interesting. My current rate is less than 3 skips per non-skip (edit, looks ok, recommend delete). So I guess skipping more than non-skip is the norm. — James Risner 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
If you are really "hung up" about the "question" being able to have an "acceptable answer" then it can do as well, @Anto ; a staff member answers the "question" ([feature-request]) and gives a specific statement that it won't be implemented (and they will likely add [status-declined] to the requests tags), or the feature is implemented and answer saying that it is. — Larnu 1 min ago
 
10:29 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Oops, used tag: instead of meta-tag: in tose magic links. — Larnu 45 secs ago
 
 
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12:21 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
These days man pages are also online. — Peter Mortensen 9 secs ago
 
12:56 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
@PeterMortensen with the same case (34 answers, 15 non-deleted answers, 1 page), all sorting are showing deleted answers under non-deleted answers. Is the sorting on SO different (and broken)? Perhaps since Trending sort? — Andrew T. 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
@ZoestandswithUkraine does it has anything to do with tag synonyms, considering this tag has 4: career. career-advice, employment, job-hunting? (Perhaps unsynomizing them might also help reduce the probability of this tag being used?) — Andrew T. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by wha7ever
[placement] of words in title could have been more punny. — wha7ever 51 secs ago
 
1:19 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PM 77-1
@PeterMortensen - I purposely did not include any samples just to avoid meta effect. — PM 77-1 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Kemp
@PM77-1 If you're not going to include examples then there's no way for us to determine whether you're correct in your assertion or not. And if we cannot determine that, we cannot determine the answer to this question. Therefore I have voted to close this. — Ian Kemp 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
Could it just be a perception problem? You're noticing these more now, rather than the actual rate of these increasing? — VLAZ 1 min ago
 
1:53 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe stands with Ukraine
@AndrewT. Sadly, no. It's related to collective articles, in a way where not even mods can bypass it. — Zoe stands with Ukraine ♦ 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
It was just September. — TylerH 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PatS
I wanted to add a smiley face. The question was asking about why are so many unclear questions coming in and closed because it was an unclear or needed clarification, research. lol — PatS 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe stands with Ukraine
The only way to "solve" the problem here is to blacklist, but we'll need an error message prior to escalating — Zoe stands with Ukraine ♦ 14 secs ago
 
2:34 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mikus
Maybe it's an issue of what is considered a 'good quality' question. I've been part of SO for years, moderated hundreds of posts, and there are many classified as 'too broad', while actually being great questions, with no answers on line. We leave those authors with nothing, just because it doesn't fit the strict pattern. IT is far more complex than 'how do I fix that error?' which SO focuses on. One thing is to close repetitive, pointless discussions, other to shut down useful stuff only because it's not a 100% precise questions. This is where I hit a wall myself recently, disappointing. — mikus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
@mikus probably not — Kevin B 1 min ago
 
2:53 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Thomas David Kehoe
My startup streamlines employee overboarding. :-) — Thomas David Kehoe 1 min ago
 
3:04 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PM 77-1
By the same token, someone who splash some colors to the paper is an artist? — PM 77-1 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
@PM77-1 Probably not a very good one, but yes. — Dharman ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rubén
Saying that someone that splash colors is an artist is like saying that some speak is politician... context matters. — Rubén 16 secs ago
 
3:31 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cs1349459
Yes, that works perfectly. Thank you! — cs1349459 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
Also meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/303469/… which is a better target ultimately. — TylerH 1 min ago
 
4:04 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rubén
@PM77-1 Like this, or this? — Rubén 1 min ago
 
4:31 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by David Leal
@Rubén sometimes we just need to speak the language they understand (Money or more exactly loosing money). Have we tried not doing triage, not answering questions or stop visiting SO for a month? I am pretty sure it works. It is just a matter of speaking the same language, :-) — David Leal 40 secs ago
 
5:29 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by beaker
The reason that I do not review many edits is not because I don't get rep for it, it is because of the large number of minor edits that ignore other obvious problems with a post. If I see suggested edits in the questions I'm looking at anyway, I'll be more likely to improve, if necessary, and approve/reject the suggested edits. Added rep is not going to entice me to review more. — beaker 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
We don't want more reviews to happen. We want more good reviews to happen. We have plenty of people clicking "Looks okay" without reading anything. — Heretic Monkey 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by James Risner
@DonaldDuck I’ve read the apple 🍏 oranges 🍊 doing it wrong before I made this question. I still don’t feel it’s a duplicate. If not, this question has not yet been directly answered. Most of the answers have been some form of: read this link or don’t delete. It would be nice to have an answer to the last sentence “it would be nice” before it’s closed as a duplicate. — James Risner 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by James Risner
I’ve reworded this directly to attempt to get an answer to the questions I feel are not answered by any existing question I’m aware nor any one linked here thus far. — James Risner 1 min ago
 
6:18 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
You and anyone else can answer any non-closed question. Once posted voters might cast votes on the answer you posted. In this case it was explained why the answer wasn't useful. You're free to take that advice into consideration and adapt your future (in)actions on it. Votes are judgement calls. Whether a question is a useful addition to the knowledge base we try to currate here and therefore warrants answers is also a judgement call. Not all judgements align 100% of the time. Some mis-judgements never get rectified. Welcome to Stack Overflow. — rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
is it even a bad question? — Kevin B just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
@KevinB between you and me we have seen worse? — rene 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Also, be careful with your wording I was downvoted. No, you were not downvoted. An answer you provided was deemed not useful by two voters so far. — rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by [Sterling ](meta.stackoverflow.com/users/4880945/sterling)
Thanks for the insight, I adjusted the title. This kind of interaction helps me understand the SO philosophy better. — Sterling 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by EJoshuaS - Stand with Ukraine
Wrong answers are not VLQ. That's what downvotes are for. — EJoshuaS - Stand with Ukraine 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
@rene it is much better than a lot of new questions. It is still bad for the reasons I detailed: no attempt to minimize an MRE, no apparent attempt to diagnose the problem independently, and an implicit at best question. Yes, asking questions is hard. Yes, trying to get help debugging code almost never leads to a good question. — Karl Knechtel 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
Reproducing the issue takes much less code than was presented. — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Usually, voting/roomba are the tools that deal with questions not being searchable/useful, we don't need to forbid answerers for that process to work. While i agree general debugging questions are 9 times out of 10 useless, they aren't off topic and shouldn't be treated that way just because it's a debugging question that hasn't been broken down into it's tiniest parts. — Kevin B 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
The second page of closure reasons used to be titled "Closing -> Off Topic", to my recollection, and that terminology stuck with me. The purpose of decomposing a debugging question is twofold: if there is one problem, then focusing on that problem makes it something searchable; if there is more than one problem, then that establishes that the question "needs more focus" (although this is usually salvageable). My understanding is that answers, especially upvoted ones, interfere with the Roomba, so I am also trying to prevent that. — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
 
7:03 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@Sterling - "I am fairly new to SO" - It says your profile is 7 years old. You were fairly new 6 years ago. You have answers from 2021. — Security Hound 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@NewEnglandcottontail - You submitted that comment to the incorrect question. — Security Hound 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by [Sterling ](meta.stackoverflow.com/users/4880945/sterling)
@Security Hound - Yes, read the second part of the sentence, where it says "just recently started getting involved in the community more seriously". I created my profile when I was 19, and didn't really care about SO at the time. Now am I trying to due my due diligence to learn how to properly contribute to the community. I posted a few one-off answers in 2021. — Sterling 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@KarlKnechtel: I'm referring to the notion that yes, one could copy this code into their IDE of choice and see the same issues. That to me is just enough. — Makoto 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by James Risner
@EJoshuaS-StandwithUkraine you are absolutely correct. That doesn’t address why I asked this question. I guess all I’ll get is wrong answers? — James Risner 29 secs ago
 
8:09 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by toolic
The question was answered 6 years ago. — toolic 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
Why did you delete the question? — Dharman ♦ 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JDawwgy
@Dharman Because my question was being downvoted instead of answered. — JDawwgy 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
I answered it. A question receiving downvotes is not a reason to delete it. — Dharman ♦ 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JDawwgy
@Dharman Thanks for the answer. — JDawwgy 1 min ago
 
8:38 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@jrh users can already mark their posts as CW and mods can already change that at will. — TylerH 1 min ago
 
9:01 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
"The acceptance mark doesn't mean that the question is solved or closed. It just means that the person who asked the question preferred that answer." Well, it sorta does mean that it is solved... at least for the person who asked the question. That's not the same thing as 'final, definitive answer', sure, but it is also not not 'solved', either. — TylerH 1 min ago
 
9:29 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zcoop98
A note that it's pretty established that downvoting otherwise good answers simply for existing on a bad question is not okay. All posts should be voted on based on their own merits, which means not penalizing good answers for bad questions, or vice versa (Of course, that doesn't mean people don't do this from time to time). — zcoop98 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zcoop98
While you may be well within your right to downvote an answer to a question you deem poor under the justification that the answer is "unhelpful", know that you go against established norms on the subject, and also that you accomplish very little in terms of curation. Questions get closed. Poor questions should be dealt with on their own accord; answers are separate posts and should likewise be judged on their own accord. Downvoting an otherwise good answer does absolutely nothing to deal with a bad question. — zcoop98 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"Downvoting an otherwise good answer does absolutely nothing to deal with a bad question." My position is that if it is pointed at a bad question, it cannot be a good answer. Further, it does help deal with the question, in that answers with a score > 0 prevent the RemoveAbandonedClosed Roomba rule from triggering. — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
 
 
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11:41 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chivracq
"*thats" = "that's"... :idea: — chivracq 28 secs ago
 
11:58 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chivracq
"thats" = "that's"... :idea: // "months old" => You mean 74 months old, ah-ah...!? For more than 18 months, I usually use "year(s)" for Time-Span, not "months" anymore, and definitely not after 6 years, ah-ah...! — chivracq 1 min ago
 

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