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4:54 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
'How can I make my algorithm faster?' Faster to execute? On what hardware? Do you have enough memory for a lookup-table? Is there enough data to thread off to a pool? Did you mean faster to develop, test and debug? — Martin James 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
'What would be the most correct way to write this function?' Define 'correct'. If you have to deliver tomorrow and your first, simple solution works, though slow and inefficient, then that is the correct way. — Martin James 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
'Why is it better to write A instead of B?' Better for what? 'better', for me, usually means 'easier to debug', YMMV. — Martin James 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
....so, many of these 'opinion' qurstions are vague and underspecified. They lead to chat conversations instead of solutions. — Martin James 50 secs ago
 
5:24 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
I hate 'best pratice' questions. They are very often underspecified and lead to conversations instead of solutions. That, or open confrontations. My favourites for global thermonuclear war are: 'you must always initialize variables where they are declared', (even if they are 256k buffers that are written into on the next line), 'you must free up all dynamically allocated memory before terminating your process, (impractical, counter-productive and near impossible with any non-trivial process), and 'you must gracefully terninate all threads before exit' (impossible if not impractical). — Martin James 21 secs ago
 
6:24 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
The editing checkbox's label "The original close reason(s) was not resolved" is poor ^ does not reflect when to check the box. The box should be checked when/iff the originally flagged reasons and every other closing reason has been addressed, ie when all closing criteria have been satisfied. It doesn't matter what the original reasons were. — philipxy 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
Please clarify via edits, not comments. — philipxy 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
Oh look - Ukraine has applied for NATO. I will refrain from 'global nuclear war' comments in future, (however short that may be). — Martin James 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
Well, 'Someone who writes code is a programmer' - if they cannot make, at least some, attempt to test/debug the code they present here, I would classify them as 'copy-paster'. — Martin James 1 min ago
 
7:36 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CodeCaster
I've encountered an asker who, after years of asking hundreds of questions, still prefaced theirs with "I'm new to C#". To them, it was an excuse for not having to do research. — CodeCaster 46 secs ago
 
7:54 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chivracq
Yep, about the "Form", the Title stroke me directly as well, we don't care about your life + level, especially in a Title, (interesting reading about that), has been corrected now, the new Title is just perfect. // And Code or Runtime/Compile Errors as Images is also always a "Recipe" for Downvotes. (Not corrected yet.) // The Follow-up (lack of or slow => also often a Reason for Downvotes) on the Question was good... // I can't say much about the "Content", except that you seem to have several Questions in the same Thread... — chivracq 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
@MartinJames sure, if they lack details you can still vote to close — Dharman ♦ 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chivracq
This is 'Meta' not 'Main', and closing this Thread for 'details or clarity' feels to me like the Closers are "misusing" their Close Priviledge, I found it "funny" for the 'Collectives Update', well done...!, but not "here", the @OP is genuinely trying to get some Feedback and to improve their Question on 'Main', the Question is "clear", and the Link to the Question on 'Main' is included, the User is following up neatly, I don't see what more "Details" would be needed...!? — chivracq 52 secs ago
 
8:28 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by halfer
Brave strategy, Ticster. This was an opportunity to put a positive and kind case forward for "edge cases", but you decided to punch readers on the nose first (see the title) prior to asking them to respond positively to you. — halfer 19 secs ago
 
 
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9:56 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ermiv
Thank you everyone for your feedback, I will try to improve my futur posts and make them as easy and clear as possible. — Ermiv 32 secs ago
 
10:28 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chivracq
Yeah well, not only for your "futur[e] Posts" but for this one already, and you need to (fairly quickly) act upon Feedback/Comments/Answers... :idea: // About the Title, you posted some "I will try to change the title" but didn't do anything about it, and some 8k-User had to do the Edit for you 1h later... // About the Errors as Images, 18h later, still nothing has happened about that, while you've even accepted an Answer (here on Meta) about that part, => +2 extra more Downvvotes (since my previous Comments), and the Question on 'Main' now got also closed, in the last 2h... — chivracq 47 secs ago
 
10:48 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jared Greathouse
Alright, it's been edited. @philipxy — Jared Greathouse 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
Please delete & flag obsolete comments. — philipxy 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ermiv
@chivracq I will be quick to respond, I did change the title in my main post, I did not change the errors as images because the question has been closed anyway and also visual studio does not allow me to copy error messages so I have to re-write them unless im missing something so I will figure it out, about the title of this post in meta I don't know what to change in it really it seems fine. — Ermiv 44 secs ago
 
11:18 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chivracq
Oh yep, you're right about the Title (on Main), you had already edited it, and the 8k-User edited it after you into some "even better" Title... Sorry, I missed that part... // Well about re-typing the Errors, if the Visual Studio GUI doesn't allow for a Copy_to_Clipboard (I'm a bit surprised, but that could be, MS can be a "PITA" for that indeed), then well, re-typing those is the "small price to pay" to get your Questions received "positively" on SO, ah-ah...! (+ Will help other Users getting the same Error(s)...) — chivracq 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ermiv
yes, I agree I will do that, I will type the errors using '>' I think it will be more helpful, Thank you @chivracq — Ermiv 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
I don't see how the two main points here go together. If we should discourage code-only answers, then letting people get away with that by cleaning up after them via edits seems to send the wrong signal. — MisterMiyagi 51 secs ago
 
11:54 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jared Greathouse
Yeah that's why I said "in general", as exceptions exist and context matters @MisterMiyagi either way, there's no alternative: we shouldn't ban code only responses or punish them. So I don't think it's bad to be able to edit these responses, so long as no information has been lost. — Jared Greathouse 52 secs ago
 
12:09 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
@Lino: Here is another example (the daily (or higher rate) questions subsided approx. 2015): 1,813 questions. The writing style did improve somewhat over the years, but only after more than 1,000 question had been posted. "every existing technology currently available" might indicate paid homework, but the writing style contradicts. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
 
12:26 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
cont' - More likely is using Stack Overflow as a personal assistant who you can ask any programming question the moment it enters your mind. Another possible motive (but unlikely) is getting a lot of reputation points. A well-known way is asking literally thousands of questions, ignoring the occasional downvotes, and don't ever delete anything. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
 
12:41 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
But you are right. It is odd to ask about C#, Visual Studio, Kubernetes, C++, JavaScript, Python, Flask, JSON, WSL (Windows), Azure, Ansible, Java, Bash, XML, Jenkins, macOS, Linux, iOS, Docker, and even Ruby(!) within a few weeks or months. — Peter Mortensen 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
But you are right. It is odd to ask about C#, Visual Studio, Kubernetes, C++, JavaScript, Python, Flask, JSON, WSL (Windows), Azure, Ansible, Java, Bash, XML, Jenkins, macOS, Linux, iOS, Docker, and even Ruby(!), all within a few weeks or months. — Peter Mortensen 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
(There is also a whole industry for paid homework (e.g., through Fiverr. Or more organised—they even say so directly—I quote: "You can submit your homework by simply clicking the 'Assignment submission' option and following the steps to submit your homework."). The creation of accounts and submitting the commissioned homework may even be automated by bots, etc. That is, the homework is submitted on the behalf of somebody else.) — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
 
1:16 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
An example for the last part is this (about 400 lines of "code"). It could be incorporated in the answer. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Here is was claimed nearly 1,700 lines of "code" was the minimum. — Peter Mortensen 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by πάντα ῥεῖ
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
Are either of these programming questions or are they just "how to I use various tools on unix" to change the base of a number? Unix and Linux has a similar question in this vein already. — Robert Longson 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
The answers to both questions also need a lot of improvement. They are just a large bunch of code examples without much explanation. If you need explanation, you have to go to a bunch of links. Do the answers even fully answer the question? It looks as if they only talk about printing values in a specific representation, but not really about converting them. — BDL 29 secs ago
 
2:01 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Re "Visual Studio does not allow me to copy error messages": I doubt that (normal meaning of "doubt"). But it may be hidden. Just Ctrl + C (with or without) works (sort of hidden feature). In many dialogs on Windows, just Ctrl + C while the dialog is in focus will copy the text to the clipboard. That is at least the case for the ASSERT dialogs. — Peter Mortensen 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
cont' - inside Visual Studio. — Peter Mortensen 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Mapping out different ways of copying text in different software development environments is an idea for a meta post or blog post. Then we could point to that. — Peter Mortensen 43 secs ago
 
2:59 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
I'm voting to reopen this question as the linked duplicate is not appropriate at all. The linked question on main included screenshots, but it also included the code. The guidance about not uploading images of code/data/errors is intended to be for questions that only show the code/data/errors, which doesn't apply here. — cigien 1 min ago
 
3:31 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Prid
@jscs: the train tracks splitting gives a visual aid for "branching", so the image greatly enhances the answer -- the answer wouldn't have been the same without. The nice link you posted of all answers with images mostly contain visuals that give a graphical representation of the answer, making it easier to understand and quicker to parse. In the few answers I checked, I could only find 1 meme: stackoverflow.com/a/35075021/3705191 -- which again, is a fun and creative way of making the answer easier to understand via a visual and fun mnemonic that's memorable. OP's GIF added nothing 😅 — Prid 49 secs ago
 
3:54 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Prid
Nothing wrong with visual aids, if they 1) add to the answer, 2) help people find & parse the answer quicker, or 3) render the answer inferior without the image. The question was how to easily know when to free a returned pointer, to which you nicely made a list of common rules of thumb, with some personal spice added. Your real answer was however "check the documentation and know your libraries". That's your main answer, not the advice at the end :) The Spiderman GIF does not 1) add to the main answer or 2) help make the answer easier, and 3) would've made your answer the same without. — Prid 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Prid
However, if you'd presented your list of rules in an image format that somehow made it easier to parse or understand or remember the answer, then including a meme would've been perfectly fine imo :) E.g., the part about "always render unto free() what malloc() and family rendered unto thee" could've easily been turned into a meme picture of a family (tree) with malloc, calloc and realloc related to free. That would've been fun AND memorable, making it easier to remember. Still, a GIF is too distracting, so image only imo. The text at the end of your answer is already a nice (text) meme 😇👍 — Prid 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ticster
There's nothing particularly aggressive about anything I said. Disagreement is not a form of verbal assault. — ticster 1 min ago
 
4:19 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rubén
Nowadays both links points to How to Ask ([ask]) — Rubén 29 secs ago
 
5:08 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adrian Mole
I just reversed the duplicate closure - primarily because the older question was closed by a gold tag-badge holder as a duplicate of one of their own questions. In my mind, that removes any (or most) subjectivity and shouldn't be done. — Adrian Mole 1 min ago
 
5:33 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adrian Mole
On further inspection, I have to agree with cigien - the newer question has better answers (by far), so I reversed my earlier reversal. Sorry for the inconvenience! — Adrian Mole 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rubén
The ask-page already has hits about what could be asked. Have you payed attention to the guidance on this page? — Rubén 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by New1
@Rubén Yes, but I would like to read the opinion of the community, since after all the community would help me. — New1 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
if I ask for an example of a FastCGI client application, would it be a valid question? No, that question would be closed on almost every SE site as a recommendation / search for resource question. Also covered here and many more in recommendation-questionsrene 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by New1
@rene Oh, thanks for the comment. If you like, add the comment as an answer to mark that my question has already been answered. — New1 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rubén
The community already expend a lot of time discussing the guidance provided to first time askers. Please follow the guidance provided though the user interface. — Rubén 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Michael Harley
@Dharman Some people did it even if the answer is not bad. Some give down vote for no reason. I'm not complaining, I'm just sharing my experience. :) — Michael Harley 1 min ago
 
5:58 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"Why is this platform so damn strict with questions?" Because it has a purpose, described in the tour and elsewhere, that does not include debugging everyone's code dump, re-explaining the same material that is already listed elsewhere, trying to figure out unclear descriptions of problems (or infer questions from "I'm having a problem with..."), etc. — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rubén
Because this platform is serious. — Rubén 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"I need to be able to ask questions, especially since I'm working on a big project right now." Just like we don't care about your deadlines, we don't care about the project you're working on. We care about the project we're working on - it's called Stack Overflow. We're happy to have anyone help with that project who wants to. But knowing that you are working on a project does not help answer your questions, and it does not change what the answers should be. — Karl Knechtel 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by lidxve
The questions last two questions I asked had purpose — lidxve 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rubén
The last comment is unclear and apparently irrelevant (see Karl comment) — Rubén 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rubén
NOTE: The OP even offered a bounty... the question in focus has a negative score at this time. — Rubén 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"While those two questions are definitely not duplicates" In your own words, what do you think is the salient difference between them? — Karl Knechtel 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
@MartinJames How do you know there was no reason? — Dharman ♦ 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
@ticster no, you have it exactly the wrong way around. The problem with the best practices questions is exactly that they explicitly do invite subjectivity. The fact that good answers will be assessed subjectively is 1) unavoidable (by your reasoning, there would be no valid questions!) and 2) completely beside the point. We close questions as opinion based because of the solicitation, not because of the answers. "Disagreement is not a form of verbal assault" Opening with "this policy is dishonest" is pretty aggressive, however. — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
The question gives us no idea what your goals or requirements are, so there is no way we can possibly decide what format would be better or worse for you. Multiple data formats exist for a reason; they have strengths and weaknesses according to the purpose of the data etc. We can't possibly tell you what questions to ask; that could fill a book. — Karl Knechtel 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"How on earth does data processing have nothing to do with programming" Because you have not told us anything about the programming that you will do with that data - how it will be processed. So far, the only thing we know about the data is that it has previously been sent to you via email, and that it needs to be stored in an s3 bucket. Neither of those things involves writing code. — Karl Knechtel 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
It's also pretty aggressive to open with a critique of policy when it appears that you are actually motivated by people finding fault with a specific question. (Incidentally, your answer is nowhere near comprehensive; a comprehensive answer could fill a book, which is exactly why the question is not appropriate for the site.) — Karl Knechtel 20 secs ago
 
6:44 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 the comment flagger
"I need to be able to ask questions" This alone is a hint towards the underlying issue. Asking questions is a privilege which can be taken away in circumstances such as the ones you are facing. Your life and/or job should not depend on the capability to ask questions on Stack Overflow. — E_net4 the comment flagger 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 the comment flagger
Thinking pragmatically, you have 10 questions with a positive score, out of 32 non deleted questions. That alone is not a great ratio of well received questions. Any deleted questions count towards the ban as well. — E_net4 the comment flagger 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"especially since I'm working on a big project right now" with the greatest respect this sounds like you are therefore on a project you are either not qualified for your role or your employer isn't offering you the training to be able to provide you with the tools/training you need to do your job. Either way, the likely solution here is (employer supplies) training, not getting yourself unbanned; we can't help you complete your project, it's your project. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ticster
None of what you describe is even remotely aggressive. Though most internet forums these days have become accustomed to such a narrow range of views that most serious disagreements appear as apocalyptic events. — ticster 1 min ago
 
7:28 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
In all kindness, many mistake the site as a personal help-desk while its purpose is different: to create a large repository of high-quality questions and answers. Yes, personal help is often obtained from answers but that is as a wonderful secondary benefit and is again not the primary purpose of the site. That you feel you must be allowed to ask questions due to a project deadline suggests that this may have been your mindset and might be why some of your questions were not well-received. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 17 secs ago
 
 
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8:46 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rubén
I don't think that there is something like "Documents"... I have seen the same on google-sheets, google-apps-script. Have you noticed this on specific tags? — Rubén 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PM 77-1
@Rubén: I see them in multiple tags for popular programming languages. I can understand that someone proficient in one language/technology could be just a starter in some other. But while collecting their rep they were inevitably exposed to basic site requirement, right? — PM 77-1 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rubén
Well, I think that there are some tags that might attract people that doesn't care too much about the "proper" use of upvotes/downvotes... i.e. there might be people upvoting as "I like" "Me too" rather than "Shows research; it's clear and useful", enough to make bad askers get >1k+ — Rubén 1 min ago
 
9:38 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
We need to downvote more. — Dharman ♦ 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by David Leal
This is one of my first posts in META, @Rubén most of the links your shared are very old, which tells me it is an old problem, with no solution yet. Which make me think the problem is not incomplete or bad formulated proposals, but lack of action by SO about this problem. Relying on huge manual intervention by the community nowadays without using the technology in our favor to minimize this effort is not fair. We should focus on answering questions rather than the current triage effort dealing with low quality questions. The badge idea, is to use a positive reward instead of punishment. — David Leal 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rubén
There are recent posts even from moderators complaining about lack of action of the company, so that isn't some to discuss here. If you are looking for that this feature request get the attention of SO, I think that it fair to suggest you to follow the feature request guidelines. Anyway, if you want to prefer using your time answering questions instead of reviewing, please feel free to do it. — Rubén 1 min ago
 
 
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11:14 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick stands with Ukraine
Nothing wrong with skipping. Use it as much as you want. I have 10s of thousands of skips in the suggested edit queue. — Nick stands with Ukraine 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by James Risner
Well, I'm fine with skipping. It is just that when I skip significantly more than 50% of the offered review items, I question if this queue is the best use of my time. Or I'm doing it wrong. — James Risner 21 secs ago
 

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