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1:20 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by smci
Be aware that Ghostery is blocking redirects from SO to Qualtrics (stackoverflow.az1.qualtrics.com), so some users may never even be shown that banner. — smci 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by smci
Be aware that Ghostery is blocking redirects from SO to Qualtrics (stackoverflow.az1.qualtrics.com), so some users may never even see that banner. (Also, SO Developer Survey and Qualtrics have been geoblocking 6 countries/regions, since 2019 or earlier). So, the site is intentionally excluding all users in those regions (unless they're using a VPN). — smci 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by pm100
before long SE will do a youtube and take out downvotes etc as being nasty and not helpful. — pm100 11 secs ago
 
 
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2:51 AM
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3:16 AM
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3:46 AM
Is this related to StackOverflow? Is this regarding what HTML can be used in a StackOverflow post? If it's a question regarding a problem in your code, please post the question in StackOverflow and not here :) — The Amateur Coder 1 min ago
 
4:25 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
I stand by my linked opinion to close as too broad if you have to pick multiple duplicates. Note that the feature you are asking for already exist for gold badge holders when for whatever reason question can't be scoped down to single one. — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
+1 to both the questions - I agree. Sometimes, exceptions can/*should* be made based on the context. I wouldn't say that the question is asking for a tool, but it does ask for a feature/template in the IDE/code editor, like which there are many questions, so I don't think it's a bad question. Sometimes, code is really hard to find on the internet. — The Amateur Coder 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
Please also edit the suggestion to explain why redirecting future visitors to multiple question is beneficial and especially how anonymous users benefit from such confusing redirection. — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
@AlexeiLevenkov, I'm aware of gold badge holders having the privilege to do that, and I don't think closing as too broad is the perfect option. Also, if you sarcastically mean "such confusing redirection", I hope you realize that content and code in any form that helps a user (at least after going through so much searching, the user gets the code) is only helpful to viewers. — The Amateur Coder 1 min ago
 
4:44 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
Some misguded comments of mine deleted - there is no redirect from a question with multiple duplicates. Sorry about that. The comment will self-destruct in 10...9... — Alexei Levenkov 38 secs ago
 
5:25 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Abdul Aziz Barkat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
@AbdulAzizBarkat, unfortunately, that doesn't answer my question or automatically add the feature, but some of the doubts I had in mind (not in the question) got cleared ;) Upvoting the comment because it "adds something useful to the post". — The Amateur Coder 35 secs ago
 
6:07 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gino Mempin
The 4th link in your list is also a feature request. It also allows non-moderators to suggest and edit multiple duplicates without "needing the attention and time of moderators." (I assume when you say "moderators" you mean the elected site moderators). I feel like your suggestion could be added as an answer there instead. — Gino Mempin 20 secs ago
 
6:20 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh
Can you share a link to this question? Probably I would happily vote for its undeletion. — peterh 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
@GinoMempin, I understand that it's a feature request too, but it IMHO doesn't make sense because 1) it's not yet answered properly 2) the feature isn't introduced (maybe the "Yes/No" was - "introduced in the sense it wasn't there before) 3) it's too old (2019). Also, this request has a suggestion too, and how to start working on it though it's not perfect. Yes, I mean the "elected moderators". Also, this is new and 'needs attention' (this one question and not every duplicate one flags) to be reminded of and implemented in the suggested way. — The Amateur Coder 15 secs ago
 
 
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7:24 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
For the record, I assume the question would have been closed for just another reason if it weren't closed for seeking recommendations. "I want something that is in parts like in that video that you cannot view" seems like an extremely vague requirement. That's certainly missing details or clarity, and I can see – though not quite agree – how one could interpret the few clear bits as seeking the template you failed to find. — MisterMiyagi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AnArrayOfFunctions
@MisterMiyagi -1 Highly disaggree. — AnArrayOfFunctions 18 secs ago
 
8:00 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
Why is this question closed even after so much explanation and even though 3 users agree with the suggestion/idea? — The Amateur Coder 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tim
So is it OK to add the scala-3 tag to a question that is specific to that version but does not have that tag? What is the etiquette here? — Tim 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marijn
I agree that these lists are useful on smaller sites to get an idea of which people are frequent reviewers. However, having a feature that is useful on smaller sites and not on SO does not sound like something SE would do. So maybe there are other (historical) reasons for presenting this information? — Marijn 1 min ago
 
8:32 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
"-1 Highly disaggree" I hereby invite you to add details or clarity to that statement. Because honestly I have no idea how to either explain or adjust my views based on that. — MisterMiyagi 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Eve
Marking a Q as a duplicate should mean that one might really know the topic in it - fact that could have nothing to do with holding a hammer. Q and A continue to be posted on SoF even in already established topics where one could think that everything was fully explained already because edge scenarios can still occur (I remember reading questions closed as duplicates despite of even the "original" ones didn't answer to the core issues raised by the so-called duplicates). Probably one question should better be left opened more time (say 2-3 days) until more expert people see/reply/solve it — Eve 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Eve
@cigien, what means delete votes ? — Eve 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Chris Schaller
Posting on Meta is what I thought I was doing ;) I get it. But the scenario really rubs me the wrong way. OP will be confused how the dup applies to them because the context, explanation and outcome is entirely different, its not even remotely a dup. As someone qualified to make that judgement call on this specific content it's frustrating to see this happen, if this post later shows up as an Audit review then we're only reinforcing incorrect judgement, that is where I start to see the larger problem. I have since done what I can to salvage the situation and OP has a resolution, so I'm happy — Chris Schaller 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Eve
@TylerH I have seen questions marked as duplicates despite the 'original' question not being able to answer to the core issue raised by the so-called duplicate. Therefore is it possible that the guy having a hammer to be not so much of an expert in the specific topic ? And therefore 'duplicate closure system' you mention couldn't actually be very vulnerable to faults or abuses ? So what about allowing people more time to still answer to some question (not calling it dupe or bad or duplicate) instead, for maybe reaching that so much needed answer ? — Eve 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AnArrayOfFunctions
@MisterMiyagi Your opinion is biased. — AnArrayOfFunctions 50 secs ago
 
8:55 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
As is yours, @AnArrayOfFunctions. You're literally asking people to find some code you saw in a video somewhere. That's just not on-topic for Stack Overflow. "Seeking recommendations" is the closest fitting close reason, as that includes "looking for off-site resources". — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
I think votes (on posts and comments) on MSE are the results of very less thinking and good review. IMHO '-8' shows that the downvoters are either ones eager and hunting for "low-quality posts" but unfortunately vote and (kind of stupidly) interact with/on good ones without any sense. Also, comments can't be downvoted, I guess, or I'm just facing too many issues with StackOverflow comments. Not just humbly sarcastic; if you find this offensive/wrong, I'm adding a "Please don't take this personally or offensively" right here and breaking the "69 characters left". — The Amateur Coder 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
@TheAmateurCoder: Or the downvotes here simply indicate the OP is wrong, instead of that conspiracy nonsense you're claiming. — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AnArrayOfFunctions
@Cerbrus Yeah wrong on what basis? — AnArrayOfFunctions 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
@Cerbrus, I agree, but a part of it is right; my comment was meant to not take the downvotes in the sense of "(a very) Bad question" or like votes on SO and generally on MSE and MSO. — The Amateur Coder 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
@AnArrayOfFunctions: on the basis I explained in my earlier comment. — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
@TheAmateurCoder: this is not the place for broad sweeping statements about how (M)SO works, though. — Cerbrus 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AnArrayOfFunctions
@Cerbrus I'm not seeking recommendation wow — AnArrayOfFunctions 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
@AnArrayOfFunctions: Read the last 7 words of that comment. — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AnArrayOfFunctions
@Cerbrus So it's not allowed to seek off-site resources - only the Stack Overflow language right? I've never heard of it though. — AnArrayOfFunctions 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
@AnArrayOfFunctions: "Off-site resources" means links to external tutorials, libraries, code examples, etc. You're asking for an off-site resource, as you're asking "us" to tell you where to find the code from the video. External links like that tend to die, making the whole Q/A useless to future visitors. — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AnArrayOfFunctions
If you mean @MisterMiyagi comment about it being vague - I still don't agree because it's clear for me. — AnArrayOfFunctions 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AnArrayOfFunctions
@Cerbrus I know that - I didn't post a link but also image for that reason. — AnArrayOfFunctions 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AnArrayOfFunctions
If anyone finds any information on the topic will also post the code too. — AnArrayOfFunctions 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
I wouldn't say it's "wrong" but if it was a duplicate, it'd be righteous to downvote the SO question, this question might be bad because it asks off-code and tries to justify it, or because the OP didn't understand/realize the "difference" between SO and other Q&As is too much and some times unreasonable; the level of difference is high, some times, not even linking to appropriate code to help the OP and future readers too. How would a knowledge base improve without the comment containing the link to the code either? — The Amateur Coder 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
@AnArrayOfFunctions you may have more success asking this question on Quora. Any answer to your question would have to be something like "Here's what you're looking for <link>", and simply isn't within SO's quality standards. — Cerbrus 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
See meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/415110/…, IDC if I get 55 more downvotes on it, I'd only be happy and take it as a great achievement of it getting 69. — The Amateur Coder 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AnArrayOfFunctions
@Cerbrus Also that's not my concern I've done my part of asking - it's the SO community that is answering. — AnArrayOfFunctions 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AnArrayOfFunctions
@TheAmateurCoder I can't see that - but obviously the community here is one sided - which is a bit ashame. — AnArrayOfFunctions 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
You’re asking for something that can’t be answered on SO. That’s why it got closed with that close reason. — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
@TheAmateurCoder that question is already deleted… Deleted questions can’t receive more votes. — Cerbrus 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AnArrayOfFunctions
Besides my original question was actually "How to create ML learning programs with CoreML" since this wasn't very well documented by Apple. — AnArrayOfFunctions 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
@AnArrayOfFunctions that original question is waaaaaay too broad for SO. — Cerbrus 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AnArrayOfFunctions
@Cerbrus I edited my question. — AnArrayOfFunctions 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
@AnArrayOfFunctions That's still a question that can't be answered on SO. You might as well be asking "How do I fly a plane", or "How does the internet work". — Cerbrus 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
You should set your browser to open links in a new tab, by default... — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AnArrayOfFunctions
@Cerbrus Tell me more maybe - I added more context. — AnArrayOfFunctions 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
@Cerbrus That's clearly coming from someone that doesn't watch 12 hours of YouTube a day. I'd have to close so many tabs..., ctrl+click is the way to go. — Nick 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
Well, I just middle-click by default, I have myself configured correctly. Jokes aside, the core problem here can be fixed with existing settings / behavioral changes :D — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
There's nothing more to tell... Your question is just not a good fit for SO. — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AnArrayOfFunctions
@Cerbrus Yeh well your answer isn' too. — AnArrayOfFunctions 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AnArrayOfFunctions
@Cerbrus Yeah but I edited it and you said something unrelated about flying planes. — AnArrayOfFunctions 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
I see this isn’t going anywhere… If you’re not here for help and only want to hear people agree with you we’re done. — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AnArrayOfFunctions
@Cerbrus I upvoted to agree that you can leave. — AnArrayOfFunctions 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Caius Jard
@Eve I think your point also crosses into better duplicate management. If we regard the original problem as some very specific case -> OP doesn't know why they're getting an "index out of bounds error on line 6, but it's caused by using a variable from line 4 whose value is being set as a result of a method call on line 3" then linking them to a "what's an index out of bounds error and how do i fix it?" might help tell them all about the exception, but there's still a lot of consequential backtracing that they just might not be capable of at their current stage of learning... — Caius Jard 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
@Nick, not 12 tho, LOL. Cerbrus, do you mean the browser's settings? Also, I don't want to set such a default, because I click some links that I feel don't need to be opened in new tabs; other users would also benefit from such a feature, because 1) clicks may be accidental from users that aggressively use the keyboard like me 2) they also wouldn't want to change their browser settings. SO users are of a broaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad variety IMO, broader and wider than such questions asked :P Also, I don't use Ctrl + Click much because I use a touchpad because my hands are smol — The Amateur Coder 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Caius Jard
..to that end, perhaps one of the answers in the dupe target is better than the others because it discusses "how did we end up in this hole?" - or maybe there isn't in which case a) maybe there's a better dupe target, b) maybe some text pointer with the dupe or c) maybe it really does need a full answer on its own because it's so convoluted in which case it probably isn't a dupe. Option B goes back to the notion that "your answer is in this other castle" isn't as good as "your answer is in this castle in this room".. Should it be in the banner [dev], a comment [ephemeral] or an [CW] answer? — Caius Jard 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AnArrayOfFunctions
Woah hold on there toxic people. Bear to comment at least? — AnArrayOfFunctions 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
Calling someone toxic is toxic, mate. — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AnArrayOfFunctions
@Cerbrus I was going to make a pirate joke not sure if appropriate though - because you said mate not matey otherwise my comment was going to be "Yarrr!" — AnArrayOfFunctions 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
"Don't expect people to leave a comment if they downvote the post" - makes sense, but here is a comment that I bore the pain to comment ;) It sure pains a lot... Also, hold on to comment where? — The Amateur Coder 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
Sometimes, people downvote without leaving a comment explaining why because the question "could not show much research, or is not clear or useful" and the downvoter doesn't know much about the tag/topic; I do it on very poor questions too, sometimes, to reduce the number of people clicking and viewing it and mostly posting toxic comments and not answering the question or help the OP edit or ~~tell~~explain the problem with the question. — The Amateur Coder just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Patrick Artner
And then there is the annoying bug with doing a numeration or bullet point style list with a code block following where the code block is not picked up correctly. — Patrick Artner 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AnArrayOfFunctions
@MisterMiyagi Well if you watched the wwdc and readed my question you would know. — AnArrayOfFunctions 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by AnArrayOfFunctions
@Cerbrus What do you mean "here for help" - you didn't help me at all - I edited my question and your exact quote was something like "This question is the same as asking How to fly a plane or How the internet works". Very helpful feedback indeed. — AnArrayOfFunctions 51 secs ago
 
10:49 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
@Clashsoft: Or perhaps a browser thing? Chromium on GNU/Linux does allow you to shift+down_arrow on the last line to select it. Of course if I actually wanted to select from a certain point to the end of the textbox, I'd ctrl+shift+end, which also works, and I assume works portably even in cases where shift+down wouldn't select the contents of the last line. — Peter Cordes 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Your Common Sense
@MisterMiyagi oh yes. Poor bastard is guilty for looking info on stack overflow and being unaware of your petty concerns. — Your Common Sense 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
@DidierL: Are you sure, or is there some kind of opt-in for the new editor? In the textbox at the bottom of this page, ctrl+k or the {} button both indent. Same on a meta.stackexchange.com post. (I'm using Chromium on Linux, in case that matters.) — Peter Cordes 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
@wizzwizz4: You don't have to know markdown syntax; there's a {} code formatting button that works similar to a WYSIWYG word processor. You just have to care enough to not crap on the lawn of the people you're asking for help, i.e. review your question and maybe take a couple minutes to figure out the editor. I have near-zero sympathy for people with boring questions who have that little respect for the people who's attention they're taking. — Peter Cordes 1 min ago
 
11:27 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
You may not agree witht he duplicate closure, but it is a duplicate. Same question, same answer. — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
How so? Are you talking about this question and this answer? Both don't have a proper answer, nor has the feature been introduced... — The Amateur Coder 1 min ago
 
11:50 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bernhard Barker
@AnnZen FYI, the problem is when a gold badge holder uses the dupehammer to prevent further answers so their answer is the one and only answer to a question (or it's one of a small number of answers). At best, that's a conflict of interest. At worst, they're trying to artificially boost their answer score by preventing competition. If they delete their answer, none of that applies. — Bernhard Barker 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
@Cerbrus, how so? Are you talking about this question and this answer? Neither have a proper answer, nor has the feature been introduced... Please consider voting to reopen as this is another feature request. — The Amateur Coder 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Thomas Weller
So, from the 22.000.000 questions asked, 0.22 questions were actually on-topic here. That's good to know. — Thomas Weller 1 min ago
 
12:15 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
Please explain why you've downvoted; it shouldn't take much time. If the site isn't trying to improve itself, I'd only stop using StackOverflow/SE sites a lot, keeping in mind that it's a stubborn site that won't fix something considered a 'bug' or introduce an option, so it's convenient for its users. Also, @Cerbrus, why would you add > to the images? So that they're aligned? — The Amateur Coder 28 secs ago
 
12:27 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
So they're visibly separated from the background. Screenshots tend to blend into the question too much. — Cerbrus 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by technogeek1995
Right. Honestly feels like this has mba’s written all over it - people who don’t understand the ethos of the development community. — technogeek1995 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
You probably misunderstood what Meta is for - this is a discussion site on matters of community governance of Stack Overflow. Also please note that the question is not on-topic on main either and will be closed as opinion-based if you post it there. You might have better luck with Reddit with this sort of questions. — Oleg Valter 1 min ago
 
12:47 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jinnjus
OK, fine I don't get it. Where's the problem? You have a job board for developers attached to the internet's goto documentation for developers and you need some extra shiny baubles also? Clarify your comment. This is stackoverflow. — jinnjus 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Didier L
@PeterCordes indeed, there is a preference for it, see meta.stackexchange.com/q/360033/167668Didier L 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jinnjus
...or if you know a better job board definitely fill me in :) — jinnjus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Eve
@CaiusJard my opinion is that even complex situations can be useful for people learning this or that thing - I mean the complete beginners, but even more seasoned ones too. But the entire narative about duplicates has even a deeper root (am going to post a question about that in itself) - it is about the interface of Ask a question page. Can you see that here when we write comments we are allowed to resize this frame field? Poor users writing questions can't even do resize to the Similar questions space - it is so tight, just 2 fields height - too difficult to easily explore similar questions — Eve 1 min ago
 
1:40 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Bollinger
Acting in good faith would not make it any less an abuse of privilege. Gold badge holders have the privileges they do because we estimate that have the experience and commitment to use them appropriately, and with those privileges comes a duty to do that. — John Bollinger 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ann Zen
@BernhardBarker Okay, but it's strange that the dupe target they used was one they already used on multiple questions (giving the impression that they might've knew the target existed prior to answering), and they deleted their answer after another got accepted... — Ann Zen 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Bollinger
If the answer has any novelty, then the user does have the alternative of adapting it to the dupe target, so there does not need to be any waste. If the answer is not novel, however, then the waste is in having duplicate answers to the duplicate question. — John Bollinger 59 secs ago
 
2:17 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
People probably voted because voting is different on Meta. Or perhaps because of opportunity cost i.e. they'd much rather something else be fixed instead. — Robert Longson just now
 
2:39 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
@RobertLongson, thanks, but shouldn't the user/MOD who disagrees at least leave a comment mentioning exactly why? In such cases when the downvoters don't leave a comment stating why they disagree with the post/suggestion, I can only assume that they haven't thought for themselves and are just adding a downvote to increase the count. — The Amateur Coder 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bernhard Barker
@AnnZen If they deleted their own answer after another got accepted, before closing it, that might suggest that they're being passive aggressive or they're acting as if they're above the rules, either of which would suggest that they shouldn't have that power. If you didn't specifically mention that in the flag, a mod could've easily missed that. Although I can't tell you whether or not a mod would've declined it if you gave those details. — Bernhard Barker 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
Commenting is not necessary at all Your assumptions have no evidential basis, what do you think anyone gains by "adding to the count"? Why would you think I or anyone else read this post without consideration, why would anyone bother to do that? — Robert Longson 56 secs ago
 
2:52 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
@RobertLongson, I didn't assume you that downvoted, but fine, I wonder what anyone gets by doing so either. I can't find any evidential basis (if the count isn't taken into consideration) of the question being bad... Does this apply to staff/MODs too? Do they also just downvote and don't say any clear information/even bother to acknowledge that they're not interested in introducing such a feature/accept the suggestion? I'm confused about what I should assume and what not. Back to the question: will the feature be introduced any time in the future? — The Amateur Coder 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Yep. Just sudo apt-get install -y powershell on Ubuntu (if .NET Core is already installed). The executable is pwsh. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
"I can only assume that they haven't thought for themselves and are just adding a downvote to increase the count." This is why people don't explain downvotes. More often than not, the recipient isn't interested in hearing how / why they're wrong, and just wants to argue with the downvoter. If you're this hostile to users even before they respond, why would they? — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
The idea is that we give feedback to developers as to what to work on and what not to work on. Given that there are more ideas than developers to work on them we need to vote up what we want worked on and vote down things we think are unnecessary and would divert time and effort away from things we do want them to do. That's opportunity cost. Some things that are highly upvoted get fixed, others that are simply easy because they are things like spelling or grammar issues get fixed. As for the rest we wait patiently and hope. — Robert Longson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
How about the other way: remove version specific tags and leave a generic one. Also, as someone that has dealt with SDL libraries, anything before 2.x is basically worthless, since anything that would need SDL, supports version 2 and vendors kinda — Braiam 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
@TheAmateurCoder that question has a simple answer - 6 to 8 even if staff considers something to be viable. Most likely never, though - making feature requests on MSO is a pointless endeavor, it is foresaken by the company as it seems (not saying that issues/bugs are unaddressed, just FRs - happy to be proven wrong,but I doubt it) — Oleg Valter 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@BernhardBarker how about a likert scale between too welcoming and too unwelcoming :) — Braiam just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
@Cerbrus, sorry if I was; I don't want to argue, I would discuss. — The Amateur Coder 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shambhav Gautam
@Braiam You're right. We don't need SDL1.2. People have been given enough time to update their code. — Shambhav Gautam 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
@RobertLongson, okay, that was clear and an actual answer to the question, thanks. — The Amateur Coder 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Though scripts do not port over cleanly if they rely on aliases (e.g., listed by Get-Alias | select Name, Definition, DisplayName | Sort-Object Definition, Name). Ironically, some aliases that work on Windows, e.g. cp and sort, are not present on Linux. The system ones will result in errors during executing, e.g. "/usr/bin/sort: cannot read: Definition,: No such file or directory". — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
@OlegValter, thanks. And sorry for not understanding what I was doing first. — The Amateur Coder 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
@Eve See this. — cigien 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Though scripts do not port over cleanly if they rely on aliases (e.g., listed by Get-Alias | select Name, Definition, DisplayName | Sort-Object Definition, Name). Ironically, some aliases that work on Windows, e.g. cp and sort, are not present on Linux. The system ones will result in errors during execution, e.g. "/usr/bin/sort: cannot read: Definition,: No such file or directory". Cmdlet Sort-Object works as expected. — Peter Mortensen 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Though scripts do not port over cleanly if they rely on aliases (e.g., listed by Get-Alias | select Name, Definition, DisplayName | Sort-Object Definition, Name). Ironically, some aliases that work on Windows, e.g. ls, cp, and sort, are not present on Linux. The system ones will result in errors during execution, e.g. "/usr/bin/sort: cannot read: Definition,: No such file or directory". Cmdlet Sort-Object works as expected. — Peter Mortensen 38 secs ago
 
3:22 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
@RobertLongson, but what about this post? It looks like a common case to me... adding an option to a dialog box shouldn't cost much, right? Also, the question isn't a duplicate because it's a different feature that I'm suggesting. — The Amateur Coder 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
Your question is indeed a duplicate of the question, that requests the ability, for users without a gold badge in a tag to add additional duplicate questions. We don’t need multiple questions requesting the exact same feature. Not every feature is considered by the developers, or even get a response from a SE developer, doesn’t mean they haven’t seen it nor does it change the fact this is indeed a duplicate. — Security Hound just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marco Bonelli
"Reduction of users' experience on StackOverflow to a single axis: degree of feeling-welcome" - this has been the rethoric for years now, and the only parameter Stack Exchange Inc. seems to care about. We have been voicing our concerns about this nearly every single time we had the chance, and any of those concerns is yet to be acknowledged. I suppose this Q will never get an A, and if it does it will just be one of us agreeing with you rather than any staff member actually acknowledging it and answering. — Marco Bonelli 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marco Bonelli
And to my fellow MSO users: I would suggest you refrain from answering if the answer you are thinking of writing is just the usual "yeah I agree" that we see under these kind of posts. Posting such an answer would just give the false impression that this issue has been addressed and there's no more need to add anything to the conversation. That is obviously not true, not until an actual CM answers. — Marco Bonelli 1 min ago
 
3:52 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Eve
@cigien after checking the link plus others related to it, it is still unclear to me if delete votes look differently at all for an usual user / reader / after being applied to a Q or A. Are there any different signs for those votes (than it is for upvote or downvote any post) ? Where can be the public see that a certain post was slapped with such vote ? By the way, the FAQ link about this topic just mentions something as "at receiving 3 such votes the post gets deleted automatically". I don't see however this A (where we comment now) to be deleted even if having more than -30 reputation — Eve 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by wizzwizz4
@PeterCordes That button's behaviour varies depending on what you've selected. If your selection doesn't include a line break, it puts inline formatting in instead of a code block. — wizzwizz4 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin Krumwiede
@pm100 Eliminating downvotes was a good idea long before management became obsessed with being "welcoming." The obstacle is the old guard of users who cannot wrap their heads around positive curation (tagging or copying "good" content to another site) rather than negative curation (deleting "bad" content.) — Kevin Krumwiede 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
@Eve 1) If you click on the timeline button below the score on this answer, and the pick "show vote summaries", you should be able to see all the delete votes on the answer, in the rightmost column 2) Answers are never automatically deleted, regardless of their score. The text you're quoting has to do with when questions can be deleted I think. — cigien 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by einpoklum
@KevinKrumwiede: Not sure the opposition would be "old guard" vs "new guard". By the way, on some sites, people are extremely stingy with downvotes, and adopt a positive curation by default except in rare cases. Example: Tex.SX. A problem with this approach, however, is that it's difficult to tell negative reactions from lack of attention. — einpoklum 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Discounting sampling statistics, 99.999999% would imply at least 100 million LaTeX questions have been observed. — Peter Mortensen 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin Krumwiede
@einpoklum Negative reactions are what comments are for. — Kevin Krumwiede 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by polfosol ఠ_ఠ
Does the same argument apply to mathematica questions? — polfosol ఠ_ఠ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bergi
@KevinKrumwiede …until they get deleted. And there's no filtering for negative comments. — Bergi 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marco Bonelli
@KevinKrumwiede you expect me to put in the effort of explaining to OP what is going on and link to the help center when they clearly refused to read any information before posting with zero effort? Nah, just CV and downvote. The close vote reason contains more than enough info. — Marco Bonelli 1 min ago
 
4:47 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by HMZ
@smci Yeah, I am from Syria and I haven't heard of this survey before. Although, I also use uBlock Origin. — HMZ just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by einpoklum
@KevinKrumwiede: I agree, and try not to downvote without a comment (unless my comment's already been made by someone else) - but unfortunately, many on SO believe that one should typically not comment on one's downvote. — einpoklum 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Re "Down": Do you mean the down arrow key? — Peter Mortensen 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Joshua
I think if I were to ever find reason to do this I would mark my own answer as CW; but I would rather not do this. — Joshua 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
@Peter Cordes: It might be for those reasons, but it could also be explained by the minimum-effort attitude. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by einpoklum
@MarcoBonelli: 1. Yes, I would expect that, when it's a new user. Don't assume new users are intentionally malicious and disrespectful. We need to educate them somewhat - and not with a "beating". 2. CV and downvotes rarely go together IMHO. If a question shouldn't be asked we should usually, again IMHO, not subject it to the helpful-meritotuious/unhelpful-without-merit consideration. — einpoklum 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DB_cont
The flagging by default seems aggressive but i agree a lot of bad programmers are asking stupid googlable Q's that can be solved by just checking some php docs or something but that's what the downvote is for and we can just close the q if its stupid. even if its stupid maybe this person just needs to be told to google cuz that will help them understand that next time they should google first then ask ~ this is just my opinion — DB_cont 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Re "...kind of a race for the first answer": That goes by the name FGITW. — Peter Mortensen just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ad absurdum
Ignoring that vote counts are a coarse and not entirely reliable method for determining question quality, sometimes a poster edits a question into better shape after receiving some downvotes. Should answerers then be penalized for answering the downvoted but now improved question? The original downvoters may never return to remove the downvotes, and often these questions receive few views after editing, especially in busy tags; the vote count may never be non-negative for some questions of reasonable quality. — ad absurdum 1 min ago
 
5:42 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by EJoshuaS - Reinstate Monica
The re-closing was also done by 3 community members, not by dupe-hammer. — EJoshuaS - Reinstate Monica 15 secs ago
 
5:54 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by wjandrea
Why did you vote to close the new canonical question as a duplicate of the old one? Consensus seems to be that it is necessary, but either way, the old question is not a duplicate because it's about an issue that's specific to Python 2, and not square root in general. — wjandrea 18 secs ago
 
6:20 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Luis Felipe
This answer only show how pedantic you become after learning to code. — Luis Felipe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
A slideshow isn't a program. A slideshow is something which is shown by a program. PowerPoint isn't a slideshow, it allows the creation and presentation of slideshows. — Nick 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 41686d6564
I wanted to upvote your post but "targeted harassment" stopped me. Since there is no evidence to support that, I would encourage you to remove that sentence from the post. — 41686d6564 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
“targeted harassment at worst.” - Edit proposals being decline is not harassment. QED — Security Hound 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 41686d6564
@Nick Technically, a slideshow can be called a program but I agree with you that using the word "program" there isn't accurate. The suggested edit did not claim, however, that PowerPoint is a slideshow. — 41686d6564 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by bad_coder
@MarcoBonelli you're buying into the bullet-points? How many of them are bullshit arguments? Do you really let yourself get fooled by this post? — bad_coder 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by bad_coder
@MarcoBonelli you're buying into the bullet-points? Do you really let yourself get fooled by this post? Ma che vuoi 🤌 — bad_coder 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Tangentially: Is there any value on the tag itself at all? — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
The rejection was correct, there's no harassment, and none of the reviewers were delusional. — Zoe ♦ 1 min ago
 
7:04 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by wizzwizz4
@PeterMortensen I do. — wizzwizz4 19 secs ago
 
7:17 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
@wizzwizz4: If you look at most other questions or answers as examples, you'll see that formatting is possible. When I first started using SO, it was after google hits pointed me to existing questions, so I'd already seen how questions should look. If people haven't done that, and haven't taken the tour, and just dump an ugly post in front of all of us, that's rude, especially if they don't explore any of the many ways they could improve it (e.g. google for "stack overflow format" or something), It might be unintentional rudeness instead of pure laziness, but I'm still not impressed. — Peter Cordes 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
@wizzwizz4: TL:DR: when starting to participate in a new community, it's partly on the newbie to make an effort to fit in, as well as on the community to make it easy for newbies to figure out how. You wouldn't wander into a math conference and immediately start bothering people to do your homework, for example. — Peter Cordes just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
@TheAmateurCoder hm? Not sure what are you apologizing for - just mentioned that it is advisable to not make one's hopes up about any feature request being addressed (or even considered) in a well-defined period of time. They also have a huge backlog already and a lot of attention is spent on the recent redesigns and the backlash surrounding them. — Oleg Valter 12 secs ago
 
7:37 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by wizzwizz4
@PeterCordes I understand. However, when I first started using the web, that kind of thing was incomprehensible magic to me. It took me a couple of months until I understood that formatting was just instructions given to the computer. Given that most questions are formatted properly, and fixing the formatting doesn't take long (there are those of us who are happy to do it), I don't think it's a very big deal. — wizzwizz4 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
Speaking of review... what a mess this tag is, it is dire need of a disambiguation request in the first place and not a wiki. — Oleg Valter 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
A funczion that copy all links in the coments and add it to the food of the question or so, thatwould be nice, which also surcvives the cleasing — nbk 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
@wizzwizz4: I assumed everyone doing programming had heard of HTML and knew that formatting was at least possible. Thanks for that perspective. But out of newbie questions, I wouldn't say most of those are formatted properly. It's not a big problem because it's easy to fix with an edit, but it seems to me like the easiest thing for a newbie to have gotten right, easier than tab vs. space breaking indenting when copy/pasting code is an SO quirk. Or realizing what info they need to include for their question to be easily answerable. No formatting still feels like a lack of respect. — Peter Cordes 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
I've posted an answer and then dup-hammered at least once, with that chain of events. (Perhaps even found the duplicate while looking for links to reference in my answer, or only later realized that one of those links would work as a duplicate.) But I wouldn't have considered reopening a closed question; if I thought it wasn't a good dup target, my first course would be to look for a better dup target and edit the duplicate list. (Which gold badge holders can do without opening / re-closing, not using up our vote.) — Peter Cordes 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
When I'm looking for duplicates, usually finding one of my own canonical answers is a good sign for wanting to link it, since I know it covers things in enough detail and depth, without getting too much wrong. I know what you mean, though, sometimes I wish people had written more good canonical answers in the tags I follow, like [x86][assembly], so I wasn't using duplicates to turn that corner of SO into my own personal empire. But apparently I have sufficient ego to think my answers are good enough to dup-hammer to them anyway, or other's answers I've edited, sometimes significantly. :P — Peter Cordes 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Anis LOUNIS
Despite the bad news, this "vanity-slug" was epic! — Anis LOUNIS 1 min ago
 
 
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9:37 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin Krumwiede
@Bergi You're circularly using the deficiencies of the system to justify other deficiencies of the system. — Kevin Krumwiede 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ann Zen
The problem is: you know how the system auto-deletes "thank you" comments that are flagged? Well, if you use a "rude or abusive" flag on those, the flag would be marked as "helpful" just the same. — Ann Zen 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 0___________
@AnnZen I do not think that is a big problem to see if the comment contains some set of words (f-words, w-words, c-words etc) and new that is something different than "thank you". — 0___________ 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by einpoklum
@bad_coder: In what sense is this post trying to "fool" people? — einpoklum 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 0___________
IMO it is a dupe as the problem is exactly the same, only some details differ. On the other hand, it is not strictly a programming question. I generally vote to close questions like this as it is the configuration issue of the commercial tool. — 0___________ 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marco Bonelli
@einpoklum this user is just being a troll and mocking me with the addition of Italian phrases and the "pinched fingers" emoji for whatever reason, as already happened multiple times. I have flagged the comment for mod attention, just ignore it. — Marco Bonelli 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by akrun
@cigien No, that is still not clear, because the moderator response to me was "Do not leave any more comments asking for users to upvote or accept your answers. There should be no discussion of votes in comments whatsoever"akrun 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
Your second question does lack focus because you're asking too many questions there. I've voted to close it for that reason. I'm not sure about the first one. — cigien 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
@wizzwizz4: Was thinking about this some more: if formatting is the only thing wrong with a question, and it's otherwise interesting, and not just another variation on a common problem, that doesn't bother me too much. But when the question is already poor, like a low-effort code dump or homework dump, that's when bad / no formatting fully solidifies my impression of a lack of respect for the people reading the question, and their time / attention. — Peter Cordes 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marko Žitković
@0___________ I agree - it's definitely not a pure programming question. Which stackexchange site would this issue be more suited for? I'm still confused about what to do with my knowledge of a fixed problem here - the solution for my problem does not fit the linked question. Should I post it there anyways? Seems odd, to answer a question with an answer to a different question. Also, none of the answers on the linked question can fix my question at all - how are other users with the same problem as mine expected to find a solution in the future if they can't find my question? — Marko Žitković 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
I'm not sure what you're confused by. It's ok in general to mention accepting answers to new users (as mentioned in the suggested duplicate). If you, specifically, have been instructed by a site moderator not to do this anymore, you don't do it any more. That's all there is to it really. I have no idea why you've been told to stop, but that's something you have to take up with the mod team. — cigien 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by akrun
@cigien I read the moderator comments as "under no circumstances" that is including the newbies as well. I used to comment with the SO link to accept. If the mods have such an issue, they should clarify it here — akrun 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 0___________
IMO it is a question to be asked on MS pages. — 0___________ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marko Žitković
While I technically agree with the idea of asking on MS pages, I will respectfully disagree with the premise that anything useful can come out of going on MS support forums and talking to cookie-cutter automated responses. I can still understand and accept closing the questions like these on the basis of not being programming-related. — Marko Žitković 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
I don't know if mods will discuss this publicly, but I suppose you can ask. FWIW, your interpretation seems correct to me. Under no circumstances should you leave any more comments asking users to accept or upvote your answers. So I'm not even sure what further clarification you're looking for. — cigien 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by akrun
@cigien that is why I am not commenting anymore. But, when I flagged the request on the link, the user got disturbed quoting that it maybe okay to comment when it is newbie. I want to get a clear answer. — akrun 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by akrun
I did send my response to moderators, but they didn't respond back. So, I am posting this on meta — akrun 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by bad_coder
@MarcoBonelli correction: I did interacted with you 3 times using what seems to be a common idiomatic expression since you're occasionally in the same chat room as me - that doesn't amount to trolling, actually going by the CoC it's well within the "good faith" guideline and no trolling was intended. However, I am glad to know which way your opinions go albeit with the incredulity of disbelief out of the overall lack of quality I find in the arguments einpoklum made. — bad_coder 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
You seem to have misunderstood the moderator message. You, specifically have been instructed not to leave such comments, that's all. In general, it's ok for users to mention accepts and stuff like that, so your comments to that other user aren't really correct. There is no general rule about never commenting about accepts, it's specific to you. — cigien 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marco Bonelli
@bad_coder the very page you link says "It is meant to express disbelief at what the other person is saying, and/or to ridicule their opinions." - and I have already asked you to stop using this expression just because I am Italian. I have nothing more to add. — Marco Bonelli 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by akrun
@cigien In that case, it is bias. I understand the rules to be same for all members and not different for different people — akrun 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
The rules are the same for everyone. Obviously, I don't know the details, but I'm guessing you crossed the line by leaving too many such comments, too often. Several answers on the suggested duplicate mention that you shouldn't be pushy, or harass users, by repeatedly leaving such comments. — cigien 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by bad_coder
@MarcoBonelli well I'm in favor dialogue when it's possible, so let me just clarify this: when I use an idiomatic expression in whatever language it's necessarily in the positive sense of it. (I just notice that "ma che vuoi" has a dual sense, one of disbelief another of ridicule, let me assure you of this: if I used the expression I wasn't ridiculing you, because I just don't do that, not with you nor with anyone. Although, you did link to a chat passage where I'm also interacting with KevinB and with him it's notoriously difficult to keep any conversation serious, so is humor.) — bad_coder 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marco Bonelli
Wow, the new design on mobile is a complete mess... in contrast, /questions (still using the old one) looks pretty clean and tidy. In any case you should direct your feedback at the Meta SE post here (as an answer). — Marco Bonelli 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by akrun
@cigien So in your view, I lost the privilege to comment because of leaving too many? comments with links to newbies? If that is the case they should have mentioned in the message. From the email, I thought they are discussing in general about the usage of comments — akrun 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
Like I said, it's just a guess. If you want clarification about a mod message, then responding to that is the best approach, as you've done. Be patient, they'll get around to responding eventually. — cigien 21 secs ago
 
11:04 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
I find it very hard to understand what's happening in the first question. You talk about some data on some page and some numbers. But there is no concrete example of the shape of the data. You have a link to an external site, so I assume you mean for us to visit it, examine it ourselves, then come up with a solution for you and post it, yet that's not how SO works. All data for the question to be answered should be in the question. Otherwise when the data in the link changes, the question becomes unanswerable and any existing answers lose their meaning. — VLAZ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gino Mempin
I think you should instead put your ideas and suggested implementation as an answer on that same FR. It would add a better answer there. It is similar to what we do on the main site: it's better if all the same posts are concentrated on the same FR. That way, if the devs decide to implement it, they just need to look at one post. All the votes would also be concentrated on the same FR. Just because a FR hasn't been implemented yet, doesn't mean we should just keep reposting the same thing. Just because the same FR hasn't been resolved yet, doesn't make yours not a duplicate. — Gino Mempin 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bernhard Barker
@einpoklum I'd consider the education of new users to primarily be SO Inc's job. The company is responsible for deciding what to show new users in the process leading up to them asking a question, and they are responsible for communicating the information contained within close votes and downvotes, and what a user should do about it, to users in a meaningful way. I don't assume new users are "intentionally malicious", but many seem to not care about much beyond getting an answer to their question, often exactly as asked, because they ignore any attempt to get them to improve their question. — Bernhard Barker 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marko Žitković
According to advice on the duplicate of this question, which I accepted, I have done everything within my abilities to try and make sure my question isn't closed as duplicate and also exhausted every option except specifically tagging the user who closed the question (I have no desire to communicate with a user who made extra effort to exclude a question from the site instead of understanding the question itself) I also do not have enough reputation to participate in chat rooms. As the answer on the linked question suggests, I have given up. Not only on this question but on SO in general. — Marko Žitković 1 min ago
 
11:34 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
yes i checked it is horrible and that not only in mobile but there it is even worse — nbk 25 secs ago
 
11:47 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
Actually, no, the policy as far as I recall was to delete such comments on site, which is also supported by the auto-deletion single-flag check being in-built. The caveat in the guidance is for an extremely narrow use case (no accept ever). I personally consider this an unethical thing if it involves one's own posts as it is a conflict of interest. — Oleg Valter 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
See: one, two. Both responses are made by mods, and I strongly support the message: those comments are attempts to influence voting patterns, and should be flagged as NLN on sight. — Oleg Valter 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
Three, also mod. There is a clear and unambiguous policy: those comments are not ok - you did the correct thing for flagging (and mods sending you the messafe if they noticed you are doing it often) - sucg comments are not ok. Sure, that's not a big deal if someone leaves them from time to time, especially with a noble goal of educating a user, but it does not change the general policy. — Oleg Valter just now
 

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