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1:04 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dbc
[bash] [ps1] - 148 questions. [bash] [command-prompt] - 131 questions. [bash] [command-prompt] -[ps1] - 118 questions. So that's 266 questions about bash command prompts. That enough demand to retag ps1 to be bashcommand-prompt? — dbc 10 secs ago
 
1:27 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
1) I don't really know what you meant by the "holiday" bit, so I took some liberty and basically rewrote that bit. Feel free to rollback, or add that bit in if it's relevant to your answer. 2) I disagree with the answer, in particular "if you have some words or phrases to begin with, it is a good fit for Stack Overflow." That's not true; it's still a language question, and that's not on-topic on SO. — cigien 45 secs ago
 
1:52 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PCM
Wait, if PlayStation 1 is on-topic on SO, what about Playstation 2,3,4 Those tags should also be retagged right? — PCM 37 secs ago
 
 
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2:59 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
Asking for solutions in multiple languages is outside the scope of a single question on SO. I've edited that out of your SO question. — cigien 1 min ago
 
3:14 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ryan M
The biggest issue here is that we have no idea what that code is supposed to do without clicking the link. Information should be included in the question. Unfortunately, it looks like the close reason wasn't selected properly (possible for a number of reasons), so you just got generic advice from the system. — Ryan M 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BSMP
In addition to including the problem your code is supposed to be solving, also include what "WA" means for those of us unfamiliar. — BSMP 1 min ago
 
4:15 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
Side note: code-golfing (packing multiple things into one line/statement, as short as possible and the like) is generally not welcome on SO as non-practical. You may want to remove that requirement from the question and focus on what can be used/what exactly your missing in the output. Maybe you have separate question on how to combine multiple shell command into single whatever that you need. — Alexei Levenkov 27 secs ago
 
 
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5:54 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yash Chitroda
facing same issue — Yash Chitroda 6 secs ago
 
6:09 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
"typescript-io-ts" sounds like "PIN number" — VLAZ 34 secs ago
 
6:44 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Bron
@BSMP It took me way longer than it should have, but I finally learned “WA” == “Wrong Answer”…. and in the course of that research, I discovered that Google considers collaborating with anyone on the problems or solutions during the competition is considered cheating. So there’s that, as well. — Dan Bron 14 secs ago
 
7:24 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
[ Boson ] New comment posted by oguz ismail
All POSIX shells use PS1 as the prompt string, why should we favor bash? — oguz ismail 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
Votes (up/down) are locked 5 minutes after they are cast, so a user cannot change their vote after that. However, if there is an edit to the post then the votes are unlocked and can be changed. — VLAZ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shibaprasadb
@VLAZ yes! I know that. I was asking, what might be the reason (aligning to Stack Overflow etiquette) to remove the 'fluff' 10 days after answering the question so that you can upunvote. Also, as highlighted by Jeanne Dark, I will refrain from adding them in the future. — Shibaprasadb 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
We can't know for sure that the editor also unupvoted the question (could have been a coincidence as edits also bump posts). And even if we knew, we can only speculate about the reasons. — Jeanne Dark 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
It's nothing to do with etiquette. If one changes one's mind about a vote, and it's locked, performing an otherwise valid edit to "unlock" the vote is perfectly valid. — yivi 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bhargav Rao
PIN Number/IP Protocol, etc, as long as it's clear, it should be fine. Feel free to propose alternative tag names to the poster. — Bhargav Rao ♦ 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
I don't know of anything that would forbid people from doing this. It's not really a regulated use of the platform. People are free to cast their votes as they will. They are free to edit as they will. An edit will unlock votes, so they can be changed. Ergo, they are free to upvote, change, unupvote. Such an interaction is neither encouraged nor forbidden. With that said, it's not even clear it was the same user who did all of these actions. I know I've posted an upvote on a post but I just followed it so when it gets edited, I'd remove it. — VLAZ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shibaprasadb
@yivi thanks! Got it. — Shibaprasadb 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shibaprasadb
@VLAZ you've clearly explained. Got it! And yes, it is not clear it was the same user but at the same time too good to be a mere coincidence. But that doesn't matter. I understood, what was done was absolutely legit. — Shibaprasadb 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
But for people on small screens this will move the actual question even further down the page than it already is — Nick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Note this one and some of its linked questions as well. — yivi 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ondrej Tucny
@JeanneDark it doesn't as it has no answers at all. Five years later and the problem is still here. — Ondrej Tucny 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ondrej Tucny
@Nick Good point, small screen UI might be different in terms of layout and/or behavior. — Ondrej Tucny 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ondrej Tucny
@JeanneDark I didn't say it was not a duplicate. What I say is that the other question provides no answers to the suggestion and that after five years dividing that and my questions, the problem is still here and I believe it is worth reconsidering past decisions, if any were made. — Ondrej Tucny 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
This one is strongly related, but it's not about editing/creating a question, as far as I can see. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
 
8:59 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 2e0byo
Please say you write all your posts like this.... — 2e0byo 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sebastian Simon
 
9:17 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
Yea, and we could add lootboxes for new skins! We also need StackOverflowImmortal, because everyone has phones! — Cerbrus 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
I'm not sure why you'd thank someone for an idea that hasn't been thought through at all. — Cerbrus 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
"So ask and at least I will upvote it and bookmark it." - Really? Regardless of the quality? — Gimby 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
It is an expression... "thanks" because yes, SO needs revenue to stay alive, but "no thanks" because putting up a paywall is extremely bad idea. — Dalija Prasnikar 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
"Me? I'd charge for entrance. Free if you read fewer than, say, 5 answers a day. Pay per answer or subscription." amazing ideas if we don't want people to use SO. However, it doesn't mesh well with the whole "high quality repository" thing we want to have. After all, if a high quality repository is not used, then is it really high quality and does it matter? — VLAZ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@Cerbrus so THAT is why the responsive UI is being kicked off, so everybody can use SO on their phones! — VLAZ 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
@Cerbrus if those lootboxes don't contain hats, I'm out. All good lootboxes in games contain hats. — Larnu 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
Also "Thanks, but no thanks" is often used to emphasise how much you don't approve of the suggestion. — Dalija Prasnikar 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
It seems like dumb question, but are you sure that Stack Overflow is really struggling that much for revenue? According to this blog post they "booked $70m in revenue last year [2018]"; I would be very surprised if that figure has substantially dropped since then, and in truth would have expected it to have grown. — Larnu 44 secs ago
 
9:49 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Damien
In my understanding, the value of a site is proportional to the number of visitors. And you want to prevent people to visit it ... — Damien 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
"The ridiculous "Collectives" idea has crashed and burnt (as it was obviously always going to do) because the new commercial owners of the property don't understand the community." isn't it too quick to jump to that conclusion? — Andrew T. 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lalit Fauzdar
Ah! I didn't notice someone has already mentioned it but I had commented on this question about exactly this case happened with my answer and they told it to be "an edge case". — Lalit Fauzdar 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lalit Fauzdar
I know it was my answer but I was saying that from a user's perspective, I also mentioned "In such a scenario, I, as a user, would want to see the newly accepted answer first because there must be a reason it is marked as the answer even when there were highly upvoted (and accepted) answer/s." — Lalit Fauzdar 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
Yea, I know the expression. I myself would've answered with "Yea, nope!" methinks :D — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
"Pay per answer or subscription." If you read an answer like "I have a new question...?", "I have the same problem. Did you find a solution?", "Thanks! The second answer solved my problem.", "Have a look at this great [article](dead link). It will answer all your questions!", how much would you have to pay? — Jeanne Dark 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tomerikoo
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
 
10:17 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
I wouldn't say it would kill the site at this point, the existing database is too valuable for that to happen. I'm kind of worried that enough people would in fact be willing to pay for access to it at this point. — Gimby 1 min ago
 
10:37 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mickmackusa
It is probably worth noting the relative time between specific answers and when the green tick was awarded (in any scenario). — mickmackusa 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
@Gimby While current database still holds the value, I think that most people would just plain stop contributing at once. Also current content can be freely copied with attribution, so I have no doubts that sites like Codidact would have more incentive to plainly scrape the site in such case. So it is highly questionable that SO could ever put a price tag on existing content anyway. — Dalija Prasnikar 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
@AndrewT. Collectives were pretty much dead on arrival. If the Google or some other company are willing to pay for branding - having some logo on questions is one thing, but beyond that there is no value there. — Dalija Prasnikar just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
@DalijaPrasnikar since this topic is about generating revenues, regardless of the Collective's value, we still don't know if other organizations are still interested to participate. Heck, even sponsored tags are still a thing. — Andrew T. 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Patrice
It can be done, but do you have an idea where you find moderators to make sure everything on the site is properly, 100% curated? Cause to Jeanne's point, if I'm paying for answers, they better be damn good — Patrice 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Without further information, words like service, application, system, provider, server, and architecture are (almost) meaningless in this context. A common technique is to invent your own TLAs, but do provide a glossary so their (well-developed) definitions are easy to find. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Without further information, words like service, application, system, provider, server, architecture, platform, and environment are (almost) meaningless in this context. A common technique is to invent your own TLAs, but do provide a glossary so their (well-developed) definitions are easy to find. — Peter Mortensen 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Without further information, words like service, application, system, provider, server, architecture, platform, process, interface, resource, virtual, task, monolithic, autonomous, infrastructure, and environment are (almost) meaningless in this context. A common technique is to invent your own TLAs, but do provide a glossary so their (well-developed) definitions are easy to find. — Peter Mortensen 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
This is honestly when the "last seen" metric would be really useful, so we can see the OP has indeed seen the comments that tell them to not vandalise their posts (again), — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
If I did have to pay for answers (I would have no intention of ever do so mind), would the user/SO also therefore be responsible for any damages that code I paid to copy caused, such as security vulnerabilities it has? And let's not even get onto the fact that there would need to be a huge licence change on the site, as cc by-sa does not work on pay-walled content by definition. — Larnu 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@dbc considering that most questions that use [command-prompt] also use windows, batch and cmd, I doubt that is a viable strategy. In fact, [python] is more popular than those tags. So, no, I don't think [command-prompt] is an alternative. I also question the existence of it. — Braiam 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ivar
I'm not entirely sure how that would help here though. The new question was asked months after that comment, so the "last seen" would also have been. — Ivar 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@PCM of course, but that's a new Q&A sadly. — Braiam 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by khelwood
A corporation sitting on top of the site trying to make money off people's unpaid contributions may be a necessary evil, but I'm certainly not inclined to try and help it make money better. — khelwood 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Unix & Linux does not have a problem with multiple languges. Just state the requirements for your work order, and the script will be delivered in multiple scripting languages, including Perl (no questions asked!). — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4
A suggestion to add more emojis in the joke part, to better convey that it is a joke. — E_net4 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Looks like an issue with your mobile device. — yivi 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by LockhartTech
Thank you to @cigien and whomever else helped reopened this question. — LockhartTech 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sebastian Simon
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Thanks @Sebastian. With the provided details, it looked like something else altogether. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by LockhartTech
LOL @PeterMortensen. Seems like SE has solutions for everything. I will explore those sites later. Thanks for the tip. — LockhartTech 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Software Engineer
You totally missed the point. That was just one idea. I'm asking for others, not for extensive criticism of my own idea. It was really just there to contribute an idea. — Software Engineer 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Software Engineer
@khelwood - but that's what we've got. The benefit to us is the content. — Software Engineer 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@Larnu the first comment to that effect is from April, this new question is from September. — VLAZ 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by LockhartTech
So who created this Single Question Scope Rule for SO? And where is it posted for all to know about it.It seems like it's a secret policy here as a simple search will reveal that many other people ask two questions - See stackoverflow.com/search?q=%22Two+Questions%22LockhartTech 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
What makes you think the content would be better? — Cerbrus 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
Well, you should probably put that idea into an answer if you wanted to separate the general discussion from your particular idea — Dalija Prasnikar 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@LockhartTech it's documented in the help centre. And no, you wouldn't find it by searching the questions and answers on the main site, they are all programming related, not about policy. — VLAZ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Yes, and the OP has made the same mistake again, and been advised, again to not do it, @VLAZ. Last time they were advised (by a non-mod) they went ahead and vandalised their post again. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Related - "They post a question, then immediately deface it once they have an answer. This is a common pattern we've observed with students who want to hide their homework from their teachers and classmates."Peter Mortensen 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Of course, it doesn't hide the answer they copied and pasted, @PeterMortensen . ;) — Larnu 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@Larnu my point is that I don't think the "Last seen" information is useful. The OP has already been notified a few months back. It's reasonable to assume they've seen it. But maybe they didn't. The "Last seen" would reveal basically the same information. Don't think this really helps us. Either OP has seen the message and is ignoring it the message or hasn't seen it. Don't think knowing which one of this helps us much. — VLAZ 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Then we are in disagreement, @VLAZ . — Larnu 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
I'm actually more disappointed that 4 people have downvoted their old question today, even though it's actually very well formed. Their actions are wrong, true, but the original content quality hasn't changed. — Larnu 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
The millisecond Stack Exchange charges for content is a millisecond after I start to replace my 1.5K answers with garbage. I provided answers for free, I wouldn’t pay $0.0 for some of the garage answers I see in the review queue, let alone actual money for them — Security Hound 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by LockhartTech
@AlexeiLevenkov First time I'm hearing of the term code golfing, and that is precisely what I am trying to do here. There are nearly 40,000 results of people mentioning "one liners" in their questions or answers on SO. See stackoverflow.com/search?q=%22one+liner%22 There is a a whole tag for one-liners on SO. See stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/one-liner. I'm not convinced that code golfing or one-liners is unwelcomed here on SO. — LockhartTech 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
The following would be a money-spinner: Pay to have your contributions be exempt from moderation/curation. — Jeanne Dark 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
You forget the essential pay2win component: instant unban after question ban has been reached, downvote immunity for an hour, and for the big rollers, ban a user of your choice for a day/week/month/year with escalating cost (they can pay to unban, but then you can pay to ban again). That's where the big money is. — Erik A 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by RBarryYoung
I love that we've conditioned contributors to think that posting answers might be "abuse", or that some flag on a question is more important than helping people. — RBarryYoung 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tometzky
I think the accepted answer should be the second sorting criteria (would basically count as half of a vote). Some people accept the answer but don't vote for it. — Tometzky 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
@ErikA That's part of the Season Pass. — Larnu 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by RBarryYoung
Been long time since I've seen anyone talk sense about the abusive close-reopen "cycle" on this site and actually get upvoted for it. — RBarryYoung 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by RBarryYoung
@OlegValter The excuses for high-handed arrogance are many and you've only listed a few. There's a reason that the general perception among programmers is that this site is seen as one of the most new-asker hostile technical forums on the internet and it is well earned. Why do you think that is? — RBarryYoung 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Micha Wiedenmann
@Larnu I don't think that is likely. I think the downvotes are because the question does not state what to do with the first entry of the tuple. — Micha Wiedenmann 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Micha Wiedenmann
@Larnu While it is possible, it is still the case that the question "is unclear". In particular it does not define what to do when the values of the first tuple fields are different and I think that is a very valid reason to downvote and based on content. — Micha Wiedenmann 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
That sounds more like a point to comment and ask for clarification, @MichaWiedenmann , not downvote. — Larnu 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Micha Wiedenmann
I think it fits "the question is unclear" which matches the hover text of the downvote button. — Micha Wiedenmann 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
Because we know it is a problem. Many know this is a problem - there is no need for snarky comments directed towards the behavior of community as a whole, frankly. — Oleg Valter 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
Well, when you have a solution for making a useful website based off volunteer contributions where information can be surfaced easily and not lost in one-off questions and does not get a reputation for being new asker hostile, do let us know, we will happily join :) There is no need for the scathing remarks, they are far from being constructive. We are trying to discuss a problem here and could use a bit less snark. — Oleg Valter 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
Your lootboxes could also contain ownership of a random high-scoring answer. — Cerbrus 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
Does this answer your question? How do I make a good edit?Jeanne Dark 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by vakio
"A program has some kind of GUI and a main function or form". No. A program is a series of coded instructions to perform a task automatically. Having a GUI is not what makes a program. Almost everything in your answer is wrong except that opinion-based questions will get close-voted — vakio 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
@RBarryYoung Honestly asking: Do you really not see any case in which answers might be abuse? Do you really not see any case in which helping people does not overrule the rules? — MisterMiyagi just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by RBarryYoung
@MisterMiyagi Sure, answers that benefit the answerer but not the OP are abuse. Spam, duplicate answers when a clearer version is already there, answering a duplicate question when a link to the dupe & a correct and applicable answer are already there, different kinds of point-trolling, etc. Providing an honest answer to an honest question (which is what the OP here was asking about) should not be considered abuse. — RBarryYoung 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Software Engineer
Trolls aside, youtube does ok from a revenue-sharing model funded by advertising and it's still one of the most popular sites in the world where even simple views are being monetised through advertising. I use SO professionally, so I have no problem with a paywall for full use and I've advocated (and been downvoted for suggesting) that this become a purely professional service in the past. I think it would have an impact on q/a quality but arguments could be made on either side of the enrichment/impoverishment debate that could only be answered through experimentation. — Software Engineer 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Software Engineer
@Larnu -- does a book publisher indemnify you for applying the things you read in a book? Does the author? Why would you expect more from someone trying to help you when you're stuck just because you had to pay a little bit? Are you indemnified by your internet service provider for the fake news you read? This is a silly argument. — Software Engineer 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Software Engineer
@Cerbrus -- it's possible that it would cut out a portion of the rubbish questions we get here. I wouldn't know unless we could experiment with it, but my feeling is that there would be fewer crap questions if the user paid to post them. — Software Engineer just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Software Engineer
@Patrice -- I think that you're paying to read medium, through advertising, and there's no guarantee that the content is good. You're paying to watch YouTube, again through advertising, and the content is often awful. At youtube, if the content is awful and the creator doesn't get paid, there will still be ads so google gets 100% of the revenue for unpopular crap. But you as a user are still paying whether its crap or not. — Software Engineer 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
A donate button — TylerH 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@SoftwareEngineer it is currently trivial to avoid that form of "paying" by using an adblocker like uBlock Origin (or a physical device like a PiHole on your network). — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
@SoftwareEngineer Many books are copyrighted; they cannot be reproduced due to said copyright. If you did, they would be illegal... You're comparing apples and oranges there. — Larnu 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Software Engineer
I've just checked your profile and it says that you have contributed 192 answers over the past nearly 12 years. Your contributions would be sorely missed. Mine was an off the cuff suggestion to start the discussion anyway and is not really likely to be implemented, but I think its a shame that you feel this way. — Software Engineer 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Software Engineer
In my experience, SO is always used as the poster-child for gamification. If games have evolved into revenue-generating engines using these techniques then in order to keep its crown surely SO must follow suit? — Software Engineer 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"SO is always used as the poster-child for gamification" Then people are painting Stack Overflow with the wrong colour, @SoftwareEngineer . Stack Overflow isn't a game... — Larnu 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
@Larnu "Of course, it doesn't hide the answer they copied and pasted" They were aware of that and suggested an edit vandalizing it, too. — Jeanne Dark 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
"SO will eventually become too expensive to run on a commercial basis and it will be shut down" - yes that's why the company was bought not too long ago, because the new investors are morons that buy a sinking ship :) No all signs point towards the fact that Stack is doing just fine financially and has growth potential. I'll give you that the investors will want their money back though, so we'll definitely see more SO-related products to come out to pull more income from the brand name. It is out of our hands entirely, I am not even going to bother thinking about it. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
"there would be fewer crap questions if the user paid to post them." There sure would be, as no one would be stupid enough to pay to volunteer their time to help someone. — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
I wasn't aware they'd made such a suggestion, @JeanneDark , thanks. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4
Relevant question at Meta Stack Exchange: meta.stackexchange.com/q/49760E_net4 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz
Some sites already have this feature, e.g. math or physics — samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
Do you want to cite a source, or credit an author? Citing any of my Stack Overflow data would not credit me as a scientist, for example. I don't publish under my Stack Overflow handle… — MisterMiyagi just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Félix Adriyel Gagnon-Grenier
@Ciro the votes actually do not support your allegation — Félix Adriyel Gagnon-Grenier 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
Does this answer your question? Citation for (linking to) answersAndrew T. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Derek Corcoran
That is super interesting @samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz, why some and not all? Is each site independent? — Derek Corcoran just now
 
2:24 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Suraj Rao
Adding which browser and system you are seeing this would help. — Suraj Rao 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Eric Aig
I updated the question to include browser and system @SurajRao — Eric Aig 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
@DanBron naturally it is cheating, but we don't judge people. If someone chooses to cheat through writing an on-topic question... it's their own credibility they're putting on the line. If the question is good, it's good. "I can't successfully complete the challenge and I don't know why" definitely isn't a good question though. — Gimby 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sebastian Simon
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
What style guide does your paper follow? It should already cover how to cite an internet source I would think. — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@DerekCorcoran Some sites have it because those sites are so heavily used for citations and it's such a big part of that site's field. It would make little sense to have a "cite" feature for a gardening site or a puzzling site. Though to be honest, Stack Overflow should have a cite feature for sure, because legally code taken from here has to be cited/attributed. We all know that's probably done less than 5% of the time though — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
I have nightmares of the W3C introducing a !veryimportant just for people trying to deal with this site. — TylerH 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Suraj Rao
@SebastianSimon is it duplicate or a regression to this ui? — Suraj Rao 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
I hope my choice of emoticons is acceptable to you, @E_net4 . — Larnu 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
@TylerH I propose we use !important! and adding a ! for each additional level of importance :) — Oleg Valter 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@OlegValter Brilliant! — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
"This is an easy enough question to answer" - the first signal that you are probably asking a question that does not belong on Stack Overflow. If you can make that judgement call then you should be performing research, not posting a question on Stack Overflow. I am going to make an educated guess that if I search "android studio git" in youtube, I'm going to find at least a dozen videos that show you where to click. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Catija
@TylerH My understanding is that the citation tool is designed more for bibliographies rather than code comments but the tool itself hasn't been touched for years and isn't even well documented. I think that, if we were going to implement it for SO, it'd need a pretty major overhaul so that it was easier to use. — Catija ♦ 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
I program applications and services and there is no possibility to name them together. But you can ask your question — nbk 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@Catija I certainly agree with that, too :-) It'd probably be faster to just start with the April 1st "copy & paste" detector or something! — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
And here I thought WA was the sound of an angry baby. — user4581301 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
Stack overflow is a psychological experiment in what happens when people realize that they have no value and only their questions do. A lot of folks seem to get upset. — user4581301 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
Then we need to revolt and seize the means of production. Band with our brothers, the Markup-Leninist's, and form a better world from the ashes of the old. You have nothing to lose except your toolchains. — user4581301 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by greg-449
This is Meta Stack Overflow, for discussions about how Stack Overflow works. Your question is off-topic here and belongs on the main site. — greg-449 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
While I don't really enjoy seeing questions that are "too simple" closed since there's no close reason for that, if I really had to nitpick, you're actually asking two questions in one. How you see a repository and its resources is a different question to how to get it into GitHub. To be blunt I don't even know what "resources" you're referring to - do you just want what's in the repository and what you normally interface with, like the actual source, or whatever's in the .git folder (which too are resources)? — Makoto 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zcoop98
@LockhartTech There's a lot of past history with Code Golf questions on Stack Overflow. They used to be on-topic, and were subsequently phased out after the creation of CodeGolf.SE. — zcoop98 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by aloisdg
I achieve to submit a few 1 2aloisdg 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
You think that was only a April Fools day gag? You poor, poor naïve child. They are watching. Everything you do. Watching and recording. And then, when you least expect it (and maybe when you do expect it because by then it will be too late to stop them) they will strike. — user4581301 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by aloisdg
I achieve to submit a few on english.se.com: 1 2aloisdg 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Félix Adriyel Gagnon-Grenier
I'm interested by how this works with very long answers? — Félix Adriyel Gagnon-Grenier 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
@LockhartTechStack Overflow has 18+ million questions, that is plenty of material to give you 40k of entirely irrelevant search results for very non-specific/ambiguous search queries such as "one liner". You're not doing yourself a very good service here trying your best not to believe what people are telling you. Nobody here has a reason to lie to you, especially not on meta itself where you will be figuratively eaten alive for doing so. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
I'm curious if my adblocker is blocking this, as this is something I'd actually want to support. Is it possible to get some information about the pixel? — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Dvorak
Would this system be confused by browsers preloading images outside of the viewport? Or if the pixels are only added by Javascript when in view, why not just send the data directly, perhaps through the websocket? — John Dvorak 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
@FélixAdriyelGagnon-Grenier Really? Me personally I am more wondering about when there are multiple very short answers on the screen :) — Gimby 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sebastian Simon
Tracking pixels sound like such an old technology. Why not use Intersection Observers? They’re supported in all your supported browsers. — Sebastian Simon 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Félix Adriyel Gagnon-Grenier
You hear "old technology", I hear "well supported". — Félix Adriyel Gagnon-Grenier 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@FélixAdriyelGagnon-Grenier That would be a good counter-argument, except for the fact that Sebastian mentioned IO is supported in all the browsers SO already supports anyway. — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kyle Pollard
@FélixAdriyelGagnon-Grenier we count an answer as viewed when you've seen the post's score in the voting controls - it's a little broad, but we're aiming to over-collect here rather than under-collect — Kyle Pollard ♦ 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kyle Pollard
@Cerbrus If you're looking to block this with your adblocker, the tracking pixel route has the form /answers/{postId}/ivc/{hash}Kyle Pollard ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@KylePollard So this'll be a lazy-loading implementation where you don't show call the resource until the scroll position is met, one time for each answer on the page? Or will there be one tracking pixel and a counter that increments once for each answer whose score you roll across — TylerH 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
@KylePollard: I'm looking to make sure I'm not blocking it, but thanks :D — Cerbrus 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kyle Pollard
@JohnDvorak We're using IntersectionObserver in our implementation, so there's no worries here on triggering views outside of the viewport — Kyle Pollard ♦ 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kyle Pollard
@SebastianSimon that's exactly our implementation, and the discussion around browser support is what lead to our browser support page now having a nice caniuse.com search box at the top — Kyle Pollard ♦ 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kyle Pollard
@TylerH We count individual views for each answer, but only once per answer. If you reload the page, you'll be eligible to view each answer again — Kyle Pollard ♦ 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
It seems to me that you really count scrolling. How much do users scroll on a page. You can't see if they read the post or not. I have a script that will scroll to the accepted Answer. I wonder if you will count all the ones I scroll past. — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kyle Pollard
@Scratte We will be over-collecting when users scroll. This will happen when someone scrolls down to answer since the answer text box is after all of the answers. This came up in our planning and we decided not to exclude these in our collection. We're taking this into account when we do our analysis and won't let it skew our findings. — Kyle Pollard ♦ 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
@KylePollard maybe debounce the collection to only fire if the scroll position stays fixed for several seconds? It's not like the reading speed is infinitely fast :) — Oleg Valter 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kyle Pollard
@OlegValter It's something we'll reconsider if we iterate again in the future. :) We don't want to exclude anything for our initial analysis. — Kyle Pollard ♦ 1 min ago
 
4:32 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by LockhartTech
Thanks @zcoop98 for directing me to these links. I will dig into these later. I guess I shouldn't be that surprised that code golf SE site exists too. — LockhartTech 21 secs ago
 
4:52 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by matt
What we really need is eye implants on everyone. — matt 36 secs ago
@FélixAdriyelGagnon-Grenier things changed after I made that comment. — Ciro Santilli 新疆再教育营六四事件法轮功郝海东 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@KylePollard this is probably something about the user agent, but if I link a specific answer, would it count any answer that came into the viewport? — Braiam 27 secs ago
 
5:07 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kyle Pollard
@Braiam Agreed that it depends on the user agent, but in my testing the answers above the one you linked to don't trigger. Our answer tracking doesn't start until the load event, and by then your browser should have already scrolled you to the specific answer. I haven't dug into it, but I expect that a function like scrollTo() would not trigger events for the answers it scrolls past completely. — Kyle Pollard ♦ 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kyle Pollard
@matt [status-planned] 👀 — Kyle Pollard ♦ 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
 
5:32 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
@matt what if they are blind? :) We need to account for that too — Oleg Valter 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
@KylePollard methinks scrollTo still triggers native events, though... — Oleg Valter 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by LockhartTech
So where are the SO policy or rules indicating "Asking for solutions in multiple languages is outside the scope of a single question on SO." Can't seem to find anything indicating this. I was able to find 500+ questions of other people asking for answers in r or Python Seems like their posts were not closed or tags edited. — LockhartTech 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kyle Pollard
@OlegValter Oh yeah, I expect it will still get triggered if you're adding behavior: 'smooth' to it, just not in the standard case where it immediately changes the position. I think IntersectionObserver is only checking when the page is visibly rendered, and if the intermediate posts aren't ever rendered because they scroll position immediately jumped, then I don't think they'll be triggered. — Kyle Pollard ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sebastian Simon
Use the browser console (dev tools) (hit F12) and read any errors. — Sebastian Simon 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
@KylePollard hmmm, that's a good idea, true :) On thing that worries me a little, though, is that I definitely noticed smooth scroll on pages when developing userscripts - it is especially apparent on pages with extreme amount of answers (like the review queue updates) - I need to check to make sure, though, my memory might be playing tricks on me. — Oleg Valter 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tyberius
@SebastianSimon I've edited in the error messages — Tyberius 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
huh, looks like an issue with Stacks... — Oleg Valter 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by matt
@OlegValter OK brain implants then. But that runs into money. — matt 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
@matt you do not have one yet? o_O — Oleg Valter 1 min ago
 
6:19 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
As one of the "red menace" folks around here I can only say this too - the second SO becomes a paid service I am out of here. And will make sure the recommendation it gets if anyone asks me if this is a good service is scathing. The company may be a necessary evil as others pointed out (although that is not a given, we are just lead to believe this is the only way), and as long as the service itself stays free and open to everyone, it at least helps out developers around the world in need for a quick reference. The instant this is paywalled, everything that's good about SO goes poof. — Oleg Valter 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
@user4581301 you mean about what happens when people realize the true nature of capitalism? :) — Oleg Valter just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
Sorry, Markup-Leninists were shot as traitors. LaTex-Marxists are currently in power. — Oleg Valter 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
from my interactions with at least a couple of "title-taggers", they really believe they are helping "searchability" of questions (and are ready to go to war with any editor that tries to fix their precious posts), so I am not sure this will help... It might make the ridiculousness of adding tags to titles more apparent, though, so the idea is not without merit. As for the UI on small screens, it is a non-issue because right now SE wastes a lot of screen space that can be repurposed for something actually useful. — Oleg Valter 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
I hadn't noticed how close the above joke comment got to the other joke comment below. Clearly I need to work on my material delivery. Pacing was way off. — user4581301 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
Roll back changes you don't want, and you could @ the editor (even though editor names don't autocomplete). "Update"s don't belong in posts, write the best presentation as of edit time. — philipxy 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
Roll back changes you don't want, and you could @ the editor (even though editor names don't autocomplete). (Maybe your post is not so clear if edits are changing the meaning of parts.) "Update"s don't belong in posts, write the best presentation as of edit time. PS Please research before considering posting a question. help center SO/SE search is literal & buggy, google with 'site:' to find Qs&As. — philipxy 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz
 
7:04 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Elikill58
Thanks for tips ! For research, yes i didn't find something that help me, even on Se. That's why I ask this one. — Elikill58 1 min ago
 
7:15 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
There is no clear phrasing of your question in your post. "the limit of an edit" doesn't mean anything. We have to guess from overall. So how can you expect to successfully search? (Rhetorical) My next comment is part of (the long form of) my standard SO comment re (re)search. — philipxy 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
Please before considering posting read the manual & google [...] many clear, concise & precise phrasings of your question/problem/goal, with & without your particular names/strings/numbers, 'site:stackoverflow.com' & tags; read many answers. Reflect your research. See How to Ask, Help center & the voting arrow mouseover texts. If you post a question, use one phrasing as title. We cannot reason, communicate or search unless we make the effort to (re-re-re-)write clearly. — philipxy 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
Please before considering posting read the manual & google [...] many clear, concise & precise phrasings of your question/problem/goal, with & without your particular names/strings/numbers, 'site:stackoverflow.com' & tags; read many answers. Reflect your research. See How to Ask, Help center & the voting arrow mouseover texts. If you post a question, use one phrasing as title. We cannot reason, communicate or search unless we make the effort to (re-re-re-)write clearly. — philipxy 33 secs ago
 
7:54 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Travis J
Yes. This. 100% this. — Travis J 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Travis J
SO will be sold to Google in a few years, so no need to worry about longevity or paywalls... — Travis J 57 secs ago
 
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