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3:55 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
Welcome to meta, the place to discuss the policy of this site. We don't know how or why you posted this question here, but unfortunately, your question is off-topic here. Consider reviewing this question again and see what you can improve before reposting this on the main site. Otherwise, if you can't post on there, please read What can I do when getting “We are no longer accepting questions/answers from this account”?. — Andrew T. just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PCM
So, are we in for burnination or just a retag? — PCM 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ivan_pozdeev
@PCM I'm suggesting a retag — ivan_pozdeev 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PCM
And the next thing I know, pinning of accepted answers with lesser scores than others, will be a permanent in all SE sites. — PCM 1 min ago
 
4:52 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Maximillian Laumeister
I'm having trouble understanding what you mean by the string after "In questions about prompts in other shells." — Maximillian Laumeister 1 min ago
 
5:04 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by stackprotector
 
5:17 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gomesz785
@samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz _ I'm not sure if I would call a question cross-posted on multiple sites_ the latex one? — Gomesz785 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gomesz785
@SecurityHound but you continue to ask the same type of questions. where? — Gomesz785 6 secs ago
 
 
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8:49 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Elikill58
And it's clearly dangerous : I have been banned from review just because I flag as "recommand deletion -> no comment" this one because it's EXACTLY the copy of the main answer... — Elikill58 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
It's probably spam with the content stolen from this blog and adding a spam link. — Jeanne Dark 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@Gomesz785 - Continued. You continued to ask the same type of questions that got you question banned not once but twice — Security Hound 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
“I understand this doesn't reply to the question, that's why it have a bad score, but I don't understand why it's in review-audit.” - It’s there to see if you are paying attention. The answer first and foremost is spam. It’s also deleted. — Security Hound 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"I don't understand why it's in review-audit." Because audits are there to make sure you are paying attention, and this one is actually a really good one, in my opinion, as it needs you to actually think for a second. "Why is there a random link to a non-related site? Should i edit that out? Probably? Is it actually spam to advertise the product? I should check if the OP is affiliated with the application has they haven't disclosed their affiliation." (and hopefully during that search you find the OP has plagiarised). — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
I don't understand the question here. Why wouldn't it be an audit? Do you think it's a bad audit? Why? — yivi 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by tripleee
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
If you're questioning why it only got a score of -2, probably because it was posted 6 years~ after the question; and so people who don't watch the active questions didn't see get bumped. — Larnu 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Elikill58
I read in another post that audit should be quite easy/almost obvious because it's just a check, not something that we should probably thinking it's good when we read it. — Elikill58 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
I guess it probably has an only moderately low score of -2 because it was quickly flagged as spam and then seen by a moderator and nuked. — Jeanne Dark 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
You gain reputation by contributing positively to SO by either asking useful questions or writing useful answer or suggesting good edits. People need to gain some reputation before they can vote on posts to prevent abuse. — Jeanne Dark 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
I would say that this audit was pretty obvious with the unrelated link at the end. — Jeanne Dark 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"have to ask questions xx times before I can"... You can answer questions too, you don't have to ask. — Larnu 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
Before you start asking questions or answering them, I suggest that you visit help center because there are strict rules about what kind of questions are allowed here and what constitutes a good answer. — Dalija Prasnikar 1 min ago
 
9:25 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
This is meta. You want Stack Overflow. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by F1Krazy
If you're question-banned, please don't try and get around the ban by posting your questions to Meta instead. That won't work. Instead, follow the guidance you were given and try to improve your existing questions. — F1Krazy 1 min ago
 
9:52 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
It's silly, but it serves a purpose - you may not believe it, but it actually shields us from a lot of abuse. Folks gleefully try to game even this botched reputation-based system for various reasons including selling accounts (yes, I am not joking). This is why there is such a strange thing as not being able to upvote until 15 rep. But, well, 15 rep is 1.5 upvotes on your question/answer, a single accepted answer, or a 8 approved edits to tons of problematic posts, so you'll be there in no time if your contributions are any good — Oleg Valter 1 min ago
 
10:10 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cimbali
I think the only point that’s really up in the air is ”is the concept on-topic for the site?” and if chess is OK, then the fact that it’s a game doesn’t disqualify it. But are there common problems to connect-four implementations or strategies that make it worthwhile to keep around as a tag? I’m afraid the game is rather too simple for that. — Cimbali 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
I have an SO account with 23k+ rep. Any reasonable offers will be considered:) — Martin James 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user11153
End the game with [ps1] — user11153 31 secs ago
 
10:35 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
Folks, we've been over this before - in general, we do not close feature requests as duplicates of old ones, especially with such a lackluster interaction over the years. Moreover, we are not required to close against an older target, older does not mean better. If anything, the old one should be closed against this one. I voted to reopen. — Oleg Valter 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Did you read the comment here? — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
I agree "typo" is not the most accurate description, but the question was at best a duplicate. Accept the help and move on. — yivi 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
@Larnu I can't tell which comment that links to, if it's the one that I refer to in my answer then... yes?.. obviously? — Callum Morrisson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"I can't tell which comment that links to" When you click the link it both takes you to the comment and highlights it for a few seconds. — Larnu 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
Yes, it should have been closed as a duplicate, but regardless, should have been closed is the operative phrase here. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
@yivi agreed, if it was closed as a duplicate that would have been fine and appropriate. — Callum Morrisson 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Since there is no lasting value to the question, and someone did post a link to a dupe target... what are we arguing about? Just delete your answer and move on. No harm was done. The user got help in comments and everything. — yivi 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
@yivi it's an example champ, don't get caught up on it, read the whole question. — Callum Morrisson 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Likely it was a 2-to-1 ratio on typo/duplicate, @CallumMorrisson . phuclv was the last close voter, and also voted as a dupe. — Larnu 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"it's an example" then give a more meaningful example, rather than attacking users you define as "power mad" without evidence. — Larnu 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4
This is an inappropriate overreaction over what happened in that question. Next time, please treat the user base like they are actual human beings using their privileges with a reasonable purpose. — E_net4 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Next time choose better examples, champ. If you select obviously wrong examples to make your case, do not be surprised your case is seen as weak. And do not make assumptions about what I read and what I haven't read, champ. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
"human beings using their privileges with a reasonable purpose" THIS, this is the problem. that is NOT what is happening sometimes. I'm guessing people are getting badges for how many posts they edit, or some other carrot for doing this stuff. OR they're power-mad, and running amouch. — Callum Morrisson 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Again, do you have evidence for this, @CallumMorrisson ? The first example you give was closed correctly; yes possibly the reason itself is wrong (it should be as a duplicate, rather than a typo), but it still should have been closed. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
There's nothing indicating anyone power-mad here. The only abusive behavior here is this question and a few of your comments with wild accusations about other people. — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
I mean, the second Example? Or I dunno if you can track down the acocunt I deleted yesterday, but the edit that triggered that on this meta domain? — Callum Morrisson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
"I'm guessing" what happens if you guess wrong? — VLAZ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
So people who edit posts to correct typos, format the code properly, add relevant links so the the OP is more likely to get better answers and the question becomes useful to future visitors is a sign of "power-mad" users running "amouch" (or "amuck")? — Jeanne Dark 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4
@CallumMorrisson Humans do make mistakes sometimes. The main problem that you are being called out about right now is that you jumped the gun on curators acting out of malice by default. Try Hanlon's Razor, please. — E_net4 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
@CallumMorrisson "Or I dunno if you can track down the acocunt I deleted yesterday, but the edit that triggered that on this meta domain?" good that you asked, because I'm curious why you deleted your account after posting this meta question. — Andrew T. 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
Well there's really only a few options there @VLAZ, either they're being incentivised by the badge system, they're doing it because they like that little dopamine hit they get when the successfully exercise their power here, or... what? — Callum Morrisson 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
You do not get badges for voting to close poor questions. You can get reputation points by posting answers to poor questions, though. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@CallumMorrisson so, which of these two incentives drives you to keep trying to sling mud at other users? — VLAZ 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
This question is pretty unclear and also very unwelcoming, but it may be based on a misunderstanding about what SO strives to be and is optimized for. — Jeanne Dark 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
But, unfortunately, you can get badges for answering crappy questions :( — Larnu 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
@JeanneDark yeah sorry, not sure where "amouch" came from, there must be similarly pronounced word that's spelt similar to that. Anyway, at no point did I say all Privileged Users are doing this. Just that enough of them are that it's become noticeably a problem. — Callum Morrisson 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4
Again, allegations without proper evidence. I hope you get to understand the true reason why this question is being poorly received before it is deleted. — E_net4 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
@JeanneDark you understand that within a week of riding the landing page, I could have enough points on this account to edit posts without review, right?. And that privilege is automated, doesn't require someone's approval. 2000rep, that's it. no oversight, and apparently no way to be reported upon. — Callum Morrisson 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"apparently no way to be reported upon" yes there is, if you think a edit if abusive, you flag it with a custom flag. If you which a edit is wrong, you can roll it back yourself. — Larnu 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
@CallumMorrisson My flags have resulted in plenty of users being disciplined for suggesting/making poor edits. There is plenty oversight. — Nick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
THAT (my previous comment) is what this question is about. My disdain for the god-hands has leaked through too much in this question to salvage it now, but THAT is the brunt of it. — Callum Morrisson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
After reading the comment thread, at this point, I'm not sure what you're trying to discuss. Now, are you going to delete your account again after posting this meta question? — Andrew T. 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Then you have your answer, @CallumMorrisson , you misunderstand, you can most certainly report abusive edits (perhaps someone edits it to add slander, spam, or profanities) by using a custom mod flag on the post. — Larnu 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
@AndrewT no, I can probably still delete the question at this point, will give it a go in a sec. — Callum Morrisson 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
@Larnu but what about inappropriate closures, forget the first example, what about the second one? — Callum Morrisson 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
Closures are not permanent, posts can be reopened. The reason your flag was declined is because that's a job that can be done by regular users, there's no need for moderators to get involved. — Nick 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
@yivi, amuck and amok are both valid words. (RE your edit) — Callum Morrisson 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
If the question has been closed, you can submit an edit yourself to make the question on-topic and tick the "This edit resolves the original close reason and the question should be considered for reopening" check box. Then it'll go to the re-open queue, and if people agree, it'll be reopened, @CallumMorrisson . — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
Fair enough, consensus seems to be that god-hands can do no wrong, and we must rely on their benevolence to self-correct each other when the frequently deface the system. — Callum Morrisson 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
There's no evidence of "frequent defacing", mistakes get made, and then they get fixed. — Nick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"consensus seems to be that god-hands can do no wrong" where did anyone other than you say that? A single person of many does not make a consensus; quite the opposite. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
Lol, also which of you twats is downvoted my answers out of spite. the one on this question is actually a pretty damn good answer all things considered. You wouldn't have thought to do it that way. — Callum Morrisson 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
@Larnu oh right, so there's someone else here acknowledging that the privilege system results in putting power in the wrong hands? You're not all just defending the god-hands? — Callum Morrisson 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
@CallumMorrisson after your language and fact you've insulted every person in this comments section, I have no intention of interacting with you further. — Larnu 1 min ago
 
11:37 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MegaIng
We also have tic-tac-toe. Maybe a more general term for all of these games would be nice? — MegaIng 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MegaIng
I would also throw tic-tac-toe in the mix. — MegaIng 22 secs ago
 
12:09 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Re "You cannot see the mouse arrow": Freehand circles (or similar) to the rescue (seriously). — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
I recall there was a similar discussion about sudoku and other tags related to recreational games. — Andrew T. 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
You misspelled Stack Exchange (the last section, "Proper Use of the Stack Exchange Name"). — Peter Mortensen 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PCM
@user11153 and start a new one with ps5 ;) — PCM 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PCM
What about old questions about ps1 like these that aren't related to bash. — PCM 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by serv-inc
@PCM: this seems more related to the bash concept of PS1. Still, the question's tag might also be deleted or whatnot. — serv-inc 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin Smith
Sorry what's the issue here? If you don't like the aesthetics after resizing the text area then just don't resize it — Martin Smith 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PCM
@MegaIng What about [simple-game-programming] or something? — PCM 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
You have the required rep to create a tag so if you need to you can just do it yourself. — Robert Longson 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
@JeanneDark No seriously, read this one, I'm not upset about the old one being deleted, it deserved to be erased. — Callum Morrisson 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
@JeanneDark Agreed, not a problem if I'm wrong, but there was nothing incorrect about any of my answers, and the timing would suggest I'm right. — Callum Morrisson 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MegaIng
@PCM I don't like that. I would put focus on the fact that these tags are interesting if they pertain to implementing an AI. — MegaIng 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"Within, minutes of my meta post being deleted, they targeted this poor guys question." What do you mean by this? — Larnu 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
If I see it correctly, that question had already been closed before you posted your first meta question. It has only been deleted afterwards. — BDL 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
You yourself drew attention to a question that was not a good fit for SO, so I'm not sure why you are surprised that it was taken care of. — Jeanne Dark 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
@BDL closed, yes, because it needed work, deletion by mods/power-users though? definitely not appropriate. — Callum Morrisson 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
About the voting: All your answers are on posts which have been closed before you came to meta. If you decide to answer off-topic questions, a certain number of downvotes is not unlikely. — BDL 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
@Larnu round two? worried about the downvotes now? — Callum Morrisson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
I don't follow your comment, @CallumMorrisson , it doesn't answer my question. — Larnu 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeroen Mostert
Tic-Tac-Toe is almost the canonical example of a game that admits simple computer implementations (indeed, it was one of the very first games implemented on a computer), and is widely used for tutorials and examples on how to write algorithms for games (and the different approaches for that). Connect Four definitely is not (and Connect Four is actually not simple in terms of optimal solutions). Regardless of whether Connect Four deserves its own tag (I'd say it doesn't) I don't think tic-tac-toe should be thrown into any kind of mix. — Jeroen Mostert 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
@BDL my experience is not that, especially given the the timing of it all. Before my meta post they were all on 0-2, I haven't checked recently, but right after they were averaging -3 votes each. COULD be a coincidence. not likely, but possible. — Callum Morrisson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
@JeanneDark "yourself drew attention to a question that was not a good fit for SO" which question? the one they deleted that wasn't mine? or the one that was? — Callum Morrisson 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
Hey look, more unfounded accusations of abuse — Zoe 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
"These are TRUSTED users." - Yes, they are, and I, as someone totally separate, stand by their comments and their action on the given question. — Nick 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"Yet they have been targeted by these upset users with downvotes" do you have evidence that Zoe or Yivi were the one's that downvoted your content on Stack Overflow? Even those of us with 25K+ reputation can't see who voted on a question, so how do you have access to this information? — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
@Nick the javascript question? The one that people might google, and hope for an answer on Stack overflow? that one? that one that we all know absolutely belongs here? — Callum Morrisson 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
It's probably not a coincidence. When you post on meta, especially with a controversial topic, then a lot of people will visit your profile and check your contributions. This make it more likely that votes are cast, both up and down votes. As long as people are voting on the quality of your posts (which I haven't checked), that's fine. — BDL 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
I voted to delete that question because I believe it couldn't be salvaged into a useful question. At the very best, with some work, it could be edited into a duplicate regex question. But not being deleted, it only risked accruing additional downvoted. I was in no way "an angry commenter" in your previous question. Sorry you got that impression. I simply called you "champ" because you addressed me that way in a previous comment (Fyi, you might want to post that comment as well, in the interest of full disclosure), just to make a point about that kind of address not being appropriate. — yivi 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
I assume the tag name conflicts with iot and that's why OP asked this question — Erik A 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
@CallumMorrisson Yes, the JavaScript question, the one unlikely to ever be helpful to anyone besides the original author. — Nick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
@BDL I think you'll agree that all of my answers on this account are professional and to the point, there's only 4 of them, but decide for yourself if you'd consider any of them deserving of a downvote. — Callum Morrisson 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
@Nick EVERY question here is helpful to the author, that's why they ask. That question, and my answer to it, were ABLE TO BE INTERPRETTED GENERICLY. and that's why they belong here. — Callum Morrisson 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
"I've only had this account for 12 hours or so" - you've had it for two days. "The question's title was a little antagonistic, and it's content was.. lacklustre?" - you mean an unsourced, abusive rant? Sure. "and the language I chose was unprofessional at best" - except there's no best-case applicable here. "However, as a result of that question, I have a great example of power-misuse now; because some of the users that were upset by my previous meta question elected to misuse both the website and their power" - see yivi's comment. They weren't recoverable, and the only reason I voted was — Zoe 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
because you brought attention to it through your post. — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Honestly, I'm more confused as to how you got the association bonus, despite the fact that none of your accounts have 200+ reputation... — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
@gnat, just out of interest, when I cast my delete vote, the meta discussion had been deleted for some time. so there was no "active discussion" going on (and that without taking into account the whole "rant" aspect of the original meta question). — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
"I expect that it is not possible to resize the text area" -> why? Just because you can't contain yourself, you want the possibility to be taken away from everyone? I want to be able to resize text areas. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
"FYI, I've already notified Stack Exchange about this fiasco, I will update this with any feedback I get from them, as it comes through (assuming this question survives). Keep that in mind as my account and the malice directed towards it will likely be reviewed." - Weren't you the one that called us all "twats" in the last post because you got a downvote on your answer? And you're saying we're being malicious. — Nick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
"Strap yourselves in, this one is goooood." - this isn't a drama channel on YouTube. "Each of my answers, were well thought, and appropriate to the theme of stack overflow" - the questions were not. "This question is not a duplicate, it is not beyond salvage. It is a GOOD question (on the face of it, content could have used some work)." - and we disagree, as shown by the lack of eagerness to reopen from users who are extremely familiar with the rules. — Zoe 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
Apologies to the guys that were upset on my previous question, you don't really have a valid opinion here, as you are who we're discussing. — Callum Morrisson 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
That is not how it works, you don't choose who's opinion is valid, otherwise you give people equal power to say you have no valid argument. — Nick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Yeah, and actually we do not discuss individual users in meta. Use your flags for that. — yivi 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
"Simple, because it is the only question I answered today, where my answer was accepted. No other reason" - and here's another claim of abuse. Again, I voted to delete because the question was objectively bad. That is the only reason. The reason I found the question is indeed you, but I couldn't care less if you had answered it or not, much less if said answer had votes or acceptance or not. "Proof? Two of the users involved in deleting the question, were also angry commenters on my deleted meta post:" - see the meta effect, as already linked. — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
If you are ready to give it a wiki and an excerpt (and with an indication that it is not about IOT), feel free to go ahead and create one - just please, please, do not create a tag without a wiki and an excerpt ( that's not directed towards you personally but rather in general as this is a common occurrence ). It would also be great if you find 5-10 questions where the tag is applicable and edit it in to ensure its natural survival in the wild. — Oleg Valter 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
Also, "angry commenters" is an extreme stretch, along with an assumption of intent. "Within, minutes of my meta post being deleted, they targeted this poor guys question." - no targeting involved, and you're once again assuming intent. — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Patrice
Just pointing out: first time I see your posts..... And you may not have a case that's as clear cut as you think. If your account is only 12 hours old, is it possible you don't fully understand the intent of this website and all its intricacies? — Patrice 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
For the context, this is link to deleted meta post meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/411623/…Dalija Prasnikar 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
@DalijaPrasnikar The link to that is 10 words in to the post :) — Nick 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
It's best not to generalize and not to assume malice, Why was this question closed is often received much better than Why are these users abusing their closevote powers, and the same goes for delete votes and downvotes. — Erik A 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
@Patrice I've only had this account for 12 hours because I deleted my previous account yesterday - long story, easier to delete than figure out how to get the system to do what I wanted. Previous account was 7-8 years old. — Callum Morrisson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adam Arold
I couldn't create it because it conflicts with iot. — Adam Arold 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
So you deleted your account to get around the restrictions you had? A question ban, perhaps? Well, that's against the rules... — Larnu 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
@ErikA I don't disagree, I am familiar with Hanlon's razor. And I'm also now aware of this "meta effect". Still, in this case I think the evidence speaks for itself. — Callum Morrisson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Freehand circles would help making your post clearer (seriously) - "...cause an overflow"Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
"easier to delete than figure out how to get the system to do what I wanted." And you complain about alleged misuse? — Jeanne Dark 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Patrice
@Callum really not trying to be a d_ck here, but your answer to "it is possible you don't fully understand the intent of this website" is.... "easier to delete than figure out how to get the system to do what I wanted". Don't you think MAYBE you don't quite understand the system as much as you think, and therefore, your judgement of appropriateness is maybe not as good as you may think? It's ironic you delete your stuff to start fresh cause you can't figure out the system, yet can't have the questioning of "hmmm maybe I misunderstood something" — Patrice 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
huh, how so, is there a system message? — Oleg Valter 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
@JeanneDark Funny how the small remainder of the integrity of a complaint disappears right out the window with one tiny detail — Zoe 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
@Patrice Why don't you want to be a duck? — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
I cast delete vote on your meta post. I downvoted your meta posts, however I haven't cast single vote on your main site posts. You have come here with a problem, but instead of focusing of particular issue asking for an explanation you started by attacking and accusing users. Not the first, nor the last time that happened here. However, further discussion in comments went nowhere and that is why your extremely rude post was deleted. You came here to rant not to discuss. — Dalija Prasnikar 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
@JeanneDark no, the problem yesterday was I wanted to disassociate myself from a question that was being heavily edited by other users. In hindsight it was a massive overreaction on my behalf, but I didn't appreciate how they butchered my text so it read less-than-ideally. I'll get a link to the question for you, likely you can see my reaction in its history. — Callum Morrisson 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Callum Morrisson
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Patrice
Could it be a hidden community providing the association bonus? I have no clue, never really tested that — Patrice just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ivar
Tags are created by adding them to a question. So without a question it should be applied to, we can't really create it for you either. — Ivar 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
It's more of an opinionated question really. Laravel 8 definitely is not old since 8.x is the current release tree so you are essentially asking if JQuery is old. You can definitely google things like "why not to use JQuery" - happy reading, see you in a couple of days. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4
On point 4, the calculations suggested can be misleading: when posting a question or answer, it will not be viewed by all 929k users who can downvote. Assuming the same chances (which are also a bit subjective, but let's go with that), you'd have to put 81/100 to the power of the number N of people with the downvote privilege stumbling upon that post. So for N=8, it's less than 20% already! The key response would be the same: one is still fairly likely to receive feedback, even though it is not mandatory. — E_net4 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
@OlegValter it's due to tag pluralization prevention (well, possibly with not optimal implementation). Only mods can bypass this restriction. — Andrew T. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
@AndrewT thanks for clarifying! I see how io-ts could bump into iot pluralization check... — Oleg Valter 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
PS1 isn't a "concept", PS1 is just the prompt shown before every command. There's PS0-4, all of those are "prompt string", and no, they doesn't deserve a tag either. — Braiam 27 secs ago
 
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[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
@3limin4t0r I would suggest going to their help center before offering up that site as an alternative. From their on-topic page: "If your motivation for asking the question is “I would like to participate in a discussion about ______”, then you should not be asking here." — Heretic Monkey 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@Braiam PS1 is also a file type/extension. — TylerH 1 min ago
 
2:15 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@TylerH I know that (check my answer below), there was a comment saying that PS1 is a bash concept. It isn't. Is just the name that the variable happens to have. — Braiam 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jajamaharaja
test test testjajamaharaja 1 min ago
 
2:35 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
@MartinJames I offer a cow and two goats — Gimby 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MegaIng
@JeroenMostert I would very much throw tic-tac-toe into the same mix as chess. — MegaIng 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeroen Mostert
@MegaIng: OK, that wasn't clear from your comment. (The "chess" comment by Adrian was just for pun, so I didn't think you were referring to that.) — Jeroen Mostert just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
Okay but if you don't quote what exactly makes sense to you (or what part of the feature request makes no sense to you) then you kind of leave it up to the reader to guess what you are talking about. I will guess you are talking specifically about the fact that the last modifier is listed and I agree, it is valuable information to have. Just like the name or even reputation of the original author might be contextually. There is only so much space in that little search result box though. — Gimby 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by questionto42
@PeterMortensen I tried my very best to get the circle neat. Never heard of that freehand circle sports on SE but once upon a time, I had an almost unknown short-time interim teacher who could and therefore did draw dozens of perfect freehand circles in every hour ;). The class was staring, forgetting the rest of the content. — questionto42 1 min ago
 
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[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
I don't think this is going to work, from what I can tell the search is not really a database search or something, it is more akin to an elasticsearch query (or maybe it is one). Sorting is going to be whatever Elastic or whatever tech is used is going to allow. A filter option ("upvoted: me", "downvoted:me" perhaps?) might be better doable. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
1) Delete it and see if you're blocked. 2) Probably. 3) To prevent working around the block — Nick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
@Gimby well, sorting can be done client-side, with a query to user's votes up/down done once per load. After all, the amount of information to transfer with each such request is ridiculously small even with avid voters — Oleg Valter 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by silencedogood
@Nick If that's the case for #3, what's wrong with "working around the block"? The only workaround would be not deleting the question, which is apparently what SO wants anyways. — silencedogood 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
I mean, did you at least glance at the recommended link the system provided?? Everything in here would be something that any sensible Meta hound would come behind to recommend you do in an answer. — Makoto 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
Well the obvious alternative workaround would be to ask questions you don't end up wanting to delete. i.e. don't "rush" — Nick 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Given your asking history, i don't think you are at risk from deleting a question or two that you don't think you can salvage. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by silencedogood
@Makoto Yeah, I read that. Twice. And it doesn't answer my question. — silencedogood 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
Why not just say "If you delete another question within some time frame, you will be blocked. -> knowledge that can be used to game the system. — Gimby 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
...it does. At the heart of your problem, you want to remove questions. Those questions have answers associated with them. The best thing you could ask for in those contexts is moderator attention to at least disassociate yourself from those questions. Mods aren't going to bother deleting the questions with answers because they won't know if the answers are any good or if the question is any good, but at a minimum, by getting it disassociated and/or closed, that would be a better start rather than you trying to delete them only to realize that the system explicitly discourages that. — Makoto 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jperl
@Gimby You're right, I updated my answer accordingly. — jperl 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
With over 2k reputation points, I wouldn't worry too much. The algorithm appears to get much lenient as your reputation grows. — yivi 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
The algorithm is secret, which answers 1 and 3. The answer to 2 is "if one thing gets you banned, the undoing that that thing will get you unbanned". — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4
@OlegValter "we've been over this before" Could you clarify where? An existing question on the subject does not seem validate your stance, or that it should be applied in general. — E_net4 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 41686d6564
 
3:54 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
@E_net4 I've successfully argued against closing towards an older feature request several times that would've effectively killed them, and that's what I've been referencing. Here is a Q&A with an opposite stance that supports mine. I do not think that every feature request is a precious snowflake and needs to be open, I am against closing against whatever just because it has been asked 6-8 years ago. We need better targets, not older targets. — Oleg Valter 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4
I mean, I am not opposed to having a better question for hosting a feature request, @OlegValter. My point is that the ruling of "not closing feature requests as duplicates of old ones" is still not that general, and should be decided based on the quality of new and existing questions. Moreover, it isn't always clear from the beginning of a question's lifetime whether it will become overall better than existing ones. The system played its role, but it takes time. All of this to conclude that we can propose to change the canonical duple target with a bit more tranquility. — E_net4 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
@E_net4 ah, without a good shove, the system sometimes fails to start like an old vehicle :) Exactly what I did there - sorry if the above appears antagonistic, it's just that I've reopened enough of the feature requests closed against old posts simply because they were posted N years before to start getting annoyed when I see a post with fresh interactions (and more of them) closed towards an essentially dead post. The intent of my comment was to point out that we close towards better targets not older, and that's what "general" is about, not that there is a mod/CM sanctioned post about it. — Oleg Valter 57 secs ago
 
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[ Boson ] New comment posted by BSMP
Are the two questions attracting negative attention like downvotes? — BSMP 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Someone_who_likes_SE
@E_net4 updated. — Someone_who_likes_SE 1 min ago
 
5:22 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BSMP
I expect that it is not possible to resize the text area... This is the default behavior in many browsers according to the MDN article on the resize property. Did you resize the textarea on accident? Were you unable to narrow it down again? I was able to scroll horizontally to get to the corner to resize it in Firefox, Chrome, and Edge. — BSMP 1 min ago
 
5:32 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nat Riddle
My slightly uneducated guess is that this is one simple title attribute away. They do seem to work on <select> + <option> elements (at least in Chrome). — Nat Riddle 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Someone_who_likes_SE
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Someone_who_likes_SE
Try continually editing your question. Review how to ask. — Someone_who_likes_SE 33 secs ago
 
6:04 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Daniel Widdis
I'm not clear what this answer is stating other than re-evaluating the criteria from the question. Does it support or oppose burnination or retagging or any other solution? — Daniel Widdis 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
I'm curious to know if there are more posts going into this queue than went into the previous "First Posts" queue, or if this backlog is due to fewer reviewers. — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
What problem the criteria has considering that it's basically the same for years without trouble? — Braiam 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@Scratte same, see query in my answer meta.stackoverflow.com/a/411507/792066Braiam 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Elikill58
Thanks you for taking in count our question ! — Elikill58 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@Braiam Same which?.. Your comment looks a little like clickbait. — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cullub
[ps1]: Game Over? — Cullub 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Try continually editing your question ... please don't ... — rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
You can still upvote content, it is simply not counted visibly. The system still records your upvote and that data is visible (but anonymized) in the weekly data dumps of site data. — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
You can sort by "newest" on the /questions page to see this information already. — TylerH 1 min ago
 
6:52 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@Braiam Except.. it's not correct. The queue seems to sometimes require two reviewers. So the clickbait is really moot. — Scratte 40 secs ago
 
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