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12:23 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shog9
I find your ideas intreguing, and wish to subscribe to your newsletter. Also, while I'm on the fence about AA, I've known folks who've found group therapy helpful and thus am unwilling to dismiss attempts out of hand; I've yet to hear of a completely effective approach to treating alcoholism. My advice would be to focus on your theory and ways in which its efficacy might be tested. — Shog9 1 min ago
 
12:41 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by msb
All other "top" candidates sound too too political. And politicians usually say what people want to hear, and/or what often they wish was how they were, but which in practice they can't fulfill for a number of reasons. You are a real person. Realistic. Honest. The world is not perfect, SO is not perfect, and you are not perfect, but you'll do your best. You got my vote. — msb 10 secs ago
 
12:59 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by KUMAR
@Security Hound sir how can i make deleted questions high quality by edit them, means what can i do in that questions? — KUMAR 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nathan Toulbert
I have always found it extremely ironic that a site that is run by engineers, developers, and designers has such a HORRIBLE UX where new users are concerned. I mean, isn't the whole point (or at least one of the main pillars) of web app design to ensure that the user experience is pleasant from START to finish. Show me a first time poster who says their experience was pleasant, and I'll show you a liar. You all know what I'm talking about. I do think this site serves a very valuable purpose, but I wouldn't call it user friendly in any sense of the term. — Nathan Toulbert 27 secs ago
 
1:21 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
Your statement above suggests that you may still be misunderstanding how this site works. Please read or re-read the help center and related links. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 1 min ago
 
 
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2:39 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
You cannot own the post you are editing. — Samuel Liew ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
See second linked post. It has already been requested. — Samuel Liew ♦ 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by holydragon
@SamuelLiew So, it should state that in the description too, shouldn't it? That you cannot edit your own post. So, people won't have this question again. — holydragon 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by holydragon
@SamuelLiew Since 2015. Okay. I will wait a little bit longer then. — holydragon 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by d4rk4ng31
A small appeal, please stop DVing it. The message is clear to me ;) — d4rk4ng31 47 secs ago
 
3:31 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
As someone who took a chainsaw to another bloated tag wiki, this one needs the same treatment. It's TL;DR as is — Machavity 1 min ago
 
4:05 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
I've marked this as a duplicate of the FAQ that covers what to do if you think you've been a victim of serial, targeted downvoting. All of that advice applies to your situation, including the need to wait for the automated script to reverse it (within 24-48 hours), and then if that doesn't happen, raising a "requires moderator intervention" flag. But, I should also point out that you shouldn't assume you know or can tell who downvoted your post(s). — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette
Your actions here are inconsistent with your insistence not to reveal anything about who flags what. You do not appear to moderate impartially. — Yvette 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
I did not reveal anything about the flagger's identity, @Yvette. You were asking me to confirm or deny whether it was you who flagged a post, and that would be potentially revealing the identity of the flagger. Saying that the same person has flagged other posts does not tell anyone anything about who it was; it just provides context. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette
While it's true that one or two of them were flagged, the flags came only from a small minority of users who have been known to flag other comments that contained any hint of criticism of this nominee. and These were also flagged by both community members and interested parties We have been through this before. Or is it only ok for me to be confronted with past behaviour and not you? — Yvette 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
@Yvette: None of those statement reveal anything about the specific identities of the flaggers. There isn't enough information there for anyone to even make an educated guess about who it might be. I have no objection to being confronted with past behavior, or even told that I'm wrong. There is some information about flaggers that I'm really biting my tongue to not share, because I know it's wrong and I know I can't. I believe that I successfully avoided doing so. Even re-reading that, I don't see how it reveals anything that can be traced back to individuals. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette
@CodyGray you clearly have a biased against the same old flaggers who support my nomination. It's dismissive of the flags and the flaggers. — Yvette 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Yes, I have a bias against flags raised by biased parties. I do not believe that the flags were objective. However, I very much disagree that I in any way implied that you or any other specific person raised those flags. There is plenty of disappointment to go around. — Cody Gray ♦ 58 secs ago
 
4:47 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by oguz ismail
I tried to read this answer but couldn't stand the volume of Freudian bullsh*t. Hence the downvote — oguz ismail 51 secs ago
 
5:05 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@holydragon you shouldn't be surprised. That's from only 5 years ago - shorter than the expected 6-8 year timespan. — VLAZ 1 min ago
 
5:27 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@Kumar - Once a question has been deleted by the community it’s probably beyond salvation. Which is the reason you must only ask high quality questions. As you are question banned you must insure that your next question in 6 months is high quality — Security Hound 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by turivishal
@CodyGray Its you opinion, you aresaying no relationship between product promotion and someone referring to a specific answer, its what i saying its not related with that question and not meaning anything.. — turivishal 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by turivishal
@TemaniAfif still you are saying, that particular answer was copy of github then why are you not talking there particular answer? why to mention here? If my question is board then ok i am accepting but there is no logic to mention other answer's problem to abuse some one. — turivishal 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by turivishal
@TemaniAfif are talking double way, look at your first comment here and below answer comment, if its plagiarism then why are you abusing me in another question? you can comment there down vote there raise the concern there.. — turivishal 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by turivishal
@CodyGray i respect you and community please look at the proper concern i am still no satisfied.. — turivishal 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oliver
@JohnMontgomery I just tried now and when editing I have no way to add any new flag — Oliver 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by turivishal
@AlexeiLevenkov its not unrehearsed feature-request question and look at the answer on that question some one approving that kind of activity and problem..sorry i am not debating here, look at my profile and my progress, first time i felt its totally abuse to mention personal things.. — turivishal 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by turivishal
@TravisJ thanks for you understanding, hope at least one person can understand this kind of concern. — turivishal 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@turivishal what "personal things" you are talking about? Link to a publicly available post you've authored under CC license - stackoverflow.com/questions/62439725/… ? Calling that "personal thing" is a stretch... The fact that that answer does not meet SO requirement for an answer is pretty clear and hard to argue with - feel free to ask with "specific-question" tag about it if you disagree... (Indeed I could be totally wrong about "the comment"... ) — Alexei Levenkov 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by turivishal
@alexeiLevenkov yes we can say its person means from my profile, because that answer just picking from my profile and mention in another question its not proper, anyone can debate there particular answer and that is not my personal.. anyone can raise concern in same answer its copy of github and product promotion but no one can mention in another question because its not related to question. — turivishal 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@turivishal we (frequent visitors of meta) are generally awful - we pay attention to what people say and try to make sure they don't use bad or misguided starting points for they questions. It is super rare for person to come to meta for first time and suggest something that totally not related to they experiences. It is generally expected that when one suggest feature to disable something - downvotes in your case - that the person considers some usage of the feature hurting them intentionally even if they misinterpret the the cause.... — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trasiva
Damn, if I went to the paint that hard against Yvette it would be "harassing" and "misrepresenting her character". I'm pretty happy with Cody's post. It's clear, concise, and it doesn't identify anyone. He clearly states that flags should be objective, while also objecting the removal of legitimate questions regardless of if they come from curiosity or criticism. — Trasiva 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
... For some reason you seem to believe that the fact one actually decided to make sure you are not misinterpreting events of a most likely case (which your question basically pinpoints to exact on - bounties are not that common) is a personal attack. It is unfortunate that you treat it that way but it is very unlikely it was intended that way. Also feature request require some example cases and that comment essentially ruled out the only case you had to support the need of the feature which is very relevant to the feature's fate. — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by turivishal
@AlexeiLevenkov thanks for reply, i understand someone intention is not hurting, its ok i am taking my step back, if everyone wants then i am accepting its my fault, and you are right its ok some one can point abuse things "copy code", "product promotion" that related to person. — turivishal 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@turivishal mentioning that particular answer was very proper in the feature request you made - as I commented earlier FR requires some justification in form "that happens often" - since there is no known evidence for "tactical downvote for bounties" the question that was linked is the only likely cause for feature to be requested/accepted. Pointing out that it is unlikely the case of "tactical downvote" decrease base for FR from 1 to 0 cases - so very relevant to that particular FR. — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Frédéric Hamidi
@Yvette, just one thing regarding the old flaggers you speak of: I do not believe that flagging negative comments is an appropriate way to support a nomination, as censoring dissenting opinions is one of the worst ways to rally support for a candidate. To my knowledge, nobody else is doing it, for good reason: this behavior, when revealed, is susceptible to bring more harm than good to your candidate. — Frédéric Hamidi 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by turivishal
@AlexeiLevenkov yes you are right, i respect you, again i am ok with that question but my concern is if he has mention "looks like you bla bla answer is copy of code and looking like product promotion thats why tactical downvote for bounties" thats called manner, but if he say direct "it is copy of code and product promotion" not i am but anyone can feel abuse on this type of comment. — turivishal 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by illiteratewriter
Adding word-wrap in the CSS should fix this right? — illiteratewriter 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@turivishal it would be soo much easier to fix your answer so it actually answers the question inline in the answer and does not consist of copy of your github page with list of features of your library - there is absolutely nothing right now in that answer that is not "product promotion". I don't get why you consider that "abuse". Content of that answer is not suitable for SO answer - we do appreciate you working a lot to solve the problem but answer must be answer... — Alexei Levenkov 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
You should ask separate question whether your answer is acceptable for SO or not. — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by turivishal
@AlexeiLevenkov thats why i am not satisfied, and because its not related,and that answer i got auto bounty award, and its not related and not an example to this question, that answer was totally created by me first and that bounty owner mentioned required things in bounty description and i have just explained comparison of requirement.. first i described in SO and then after i created my repo because of time limit. — turivishal 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Aquarius_Girl
@trasiva That comment is not there now. Perhaps you should have preserved a screenshot. People can go to any length to hide their past deeds. — Aquarius_Girl just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Can you please stop raising flags on that comment? I cannot possibly make it any more clear... — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
 
7:07 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trasiva
@Aquarius_Girl "CodyGray I've applied to be reinstated, but I'm not going to bust a gut like I used to. It will be cruising and handling flags in my spare time only. I'm not participating on any meta site, beyond farewelling friends and I'm not stepping into a chat room. If they want me back on those terms, I'll come back. I'm tired of the controversy and the fight, but I'm still willing to let it unfold and see what happens." — Trasiva 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by turivishal
@CodyGray its ok i am taking my step back, i respect you, because you all are the reputed and experienced, i thought anyone can understand but its ok, i never read in SO guideline if i abuse or hurt by anyone then that i have to agree and keep tolerate. — turivishal 1 min ago
 
7:19 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by George
i fully agree with you — George 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zabop
(Updated the post since this answer was written, old post can be found in edit history.) — zabop 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Christian Rau
If only the majority of voters could see how she's digging herself deeper and deeper with these comments and answers. But I'm afraid the average voter might not notice the terrible circumstances around this name change and the whole candidacy too much. — Christian Rau 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zabop
@TylerH, Looked into stats.stackexchange.com, they don't deal with implementation questions, but datascience.stackexchange.com seem to, so if my edit for reopening doesn't succeed I can try there. — zabop 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by bad_coder
After the consistent smear campaign against Yvette it's advisable to disregard the critiques against her altogether.bad_coder 39 secs ago
 
7:51 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
FWIW I think I figured a different, more useful and non-destructive way to use reactions code - people who can't vote could (privately) record their posts evaluation. You can find more details on that here, in the third part of the answer, starting with "Another way to address that..." — gnat 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ham Vocke
@BACON that's because the last edits were made before the fix was in. We only re-render questions and answers on creation or edit, so these two examples were still rendered with the bug in place. I've triggered a "rebake" manually, the two posts you mentioned now show correct syntax highlighting. — Ham Vocke ♦ 58 secs ago
 
8:11 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 won't put up with you
1. That's great, you get an answer substantially faster than someone having to write one from scratch. Work with the dupe, not against it. 2. This is a hard claim to back, considering that votes are anonymous by design; experience tells me that there are usually better reasons for the downvotes than the ones the poster thinks. 3. The site is run by volunteers! There is no way to ensure an answer to an answerable question, and no one is entitled to an answer to the question in the first place. 4. Discussed to death and not going to happen: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/357436E_net4 won't put up with you just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 won't put up with you
This is a case where assuming who downvoted would have gone terribly wrong. The user who posted a link-only answer to your most recent question does not even have enough reputation to downvote right now. — E_net4 won't put up with you 45 secs ago
 
8:33 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by David Fisher
A community that isn't inclusive eventually becomes elitist. Comments can't be down voted but their nastiness remains and others that might agree with some of it without realizing how uninviting the words in the comment might be just adds to the echo chamber that I see on here to this day -- might account's not young. I just don't ever want to post anything because I'm always worried I'm wrong for something. -- kinda like how people don't like my "answer" now... It's a point of view from someone who actually believes this place is rather toxic but still needs answers occasionally. — David Fisher 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S.L. Barth - Reinstate Monica
Welcome to Meta! You're having a rough start here, but that's normal - many new users find this place difficult. While I disagree with some of the points you make, I can see where you're coming from. I hope you can take a little comfort from that. — S.L. Barth - Reinstate Monica just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Stacey Dee
I'm sorry but he is not the one who possibly downvoted. As I mentioned above, the one had already deleted answer yesterday. — Stacey Dee 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 won't put up with you
We do not exclude people, but there is a defensive stance against poor quality content. It's this way because the goal is to collect a repository of quality questions and answers. If the comments are indeed nasty, you can flag them to be removed. The problem is that terse comments such as the one suggested above sit in a borderline. They can still be removed once they are no longer needed. Anyway, this is yet another case of calling the site's curation methods to be toxic, so it is obviously not endorsed by the most active members of the community, a fair number of which are curators. — E_net4 won't put up with you 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by StoryTeller - Unslander Monica
The person you mention did not delete their answer. It was deleted by other users for being a link only answer. There's a review process for that. — StoryTeller - Unslander Monica 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ahmed Abdelhameed
StaceyDee, I believe E_net4 is referring to the user with the deleted answer indeed. @E_net4 I think we should also consider the fact that that user's rep is very close to the sufficient rep for downvoting. They could have lost a few points recently (possibly for downvoting). That being said, we shouldn't assume, of course, as indicated by Cody. — Ahmed Abdelhameed 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
For sure this needs to go. On a related note, many questions with this tag are also tagged joomla. The Joomla SE site incidentally would love to have all these questions migrated there, but that requires a CM. — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
"The original poster of the question is left to decide whether the commenter meant they were too stupid or too lazy to write a good question." - not always. Some people interpret stuff literally and don't read too much into the sentiment. Don't oversimplify the variation in human responses — Zoe 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
" It is an unnecessary word. You can ask yourself - why did the commenter feel compelled to add it." - "exactly" is a modifier. "It tells you exactly where it is" means "you'll find the exact source", not "you might find something leading to the source". It's being explicit about whether it's there, or if you have to pull the programming equivalent of sacrificing 5 goats and finishing the final boss to find the problem — Zoe 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
"Yet, on deeper analysis, one can see that this statement is not meant to simply inform. It is also meant to shame." - now this is assuming bad faith. Not that it's a CoC violation anymore, but assuming bad faith is not a good idea. If you assume people are out to get you, that's what it's going to appear as. It's a bit like discovering a new word, and suddenly, it's everywhere and you can't understand how you missed it. Assume people are out to shame, and the comment will look like it's meant to shame. You still can't know what OP intended. — Zoe 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
"Yes, even if solved, other problems will still remain - but it is worth answering the question whether this issue might be at the heart of many problems" - again, citation needed. I've seen low-rep users lash out at perfectly fine and neutral (as in non-borderline) comments and subsequentially gotten themselves correctly suspended. You're missing the extreme variation in responses, and you're implicitly implying only high-rep users are the problem. There's a lot more sides to this problem than that — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by leonheess
Multiple of my critical comments on this thread were removed as well. Not how I expect elections to be handled tbh — leonheess 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
Just so I'm abundantly clear here, I'm not saying shaming isn't a problem, but it's nowhere near as big a problem as you make it out to be. "We don't need to wait for AI sentiment technology." - no, because it already exists. "Stack Overflow can leverage the wisdom of the crowd. Stack Overflow can simply enable the crowd to rate comments on a scale for how much they seem to focus on shaming the poster. " - we have flags for a reason. If a comment violates the CoC, you flag — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sinatr
I have feeling that instincts can be guided.. A kind of message what is shown when you click "add comment" button under other comment to own post: "It looks like you are trying to reply to a comment. Consider to edit your post instead, so that valuable information you are about to post will stay in case comments are purged". — Sinatr 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
"Though science may not give us 100% certainty" - it can, provided enough time and resources, and already has. There being a link between shame and anger is true - shame being the only trigger for anger, or one of few, is absolutely not the case. You can find a lot of research linking other emotions to anger (and some times, in the other direction or in both directions) online. — Zoe 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeremy Thompson
silent my organization as they considered adopting Stack Overflow's teams.. I was expecting a consultant follow up.. in the past I would have jumped to advocate it, pretty sure they saw my comments on one of these threads and/or lack of any reply in email exchanges and decided not to pursue it. I've also noticed the price has dropped from $17 to $12. Joel isn't going to sell Atlassian another $400M Trello and SO is the prize. Jobs worked out well. However the entire business model without a community is down the toilet. — Jeremy Thompson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
"Notice this statement is a mix of facts and adds judgements about those facts." - again, you flag in those cases. You're describing parts already outlined in the code of conduct, but adding a provably false link to the cause of it. "Some on Stack Overflow might argue shaming is needed to stop bad posting behavior." - who? Serious question, because I have not seen a single person arguing that shame is necessary to change behavior. — Zoe 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by leonheess
The fact that you first added "Reinstate Monica" to your name, then censored everyone pointing it out for what it is (a last-minute grab for votes) and now removed it from your name again after you realized it makes you look worse, tells me everything I need to know about you as a moderator and as a person. — leonheess 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
"Some might also claim that avoiding comments that shame is not possible" - it is, but not because " People can choose to be shamed by anything" (although that is also true). Stack Overflow is an international site, and as such struggles with the same problem as the rest of the world: The language barrier. Some people might accidentally shame someone as a result, in part because the actual intent is lost to the language barrier, or is lost to the lack of being able to display emotions online. Again - not everyone intentionally shames other people, and assuming that is assuming bad faith — Zoe 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
"Recognizing shaming words in comments can be challenging" - yes, because some people are triggered by some words and find others fine in a mixed bucket. There's no linear formula that's able to say "this word is bad", because that's not always the case. If you go with the one size fits all approach on mental health related issues, you will end up excluding people, and getting their potential fixes ignored because "we found the solution for everything", even when that's provably not the case — Zoe 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
"You will no longer be able to unsee it - and you will see shaming in online communities everywhere" - it's not exclusively an online problem. Happens IRL too, but people seem more happy to ignore that aspect of it and blame the internet. "Imagine if we trained a new bot that gave a "shaming" comment score: a "shame bot."" - certain shaming comments classify as rude. We don't need two bots to classify a separate type of comments when the worst ones fall under a category we already have a bot and flags for. — Zoe 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
"The result of collecting these "shame" ratings means Stack Overflow will be building a baseline of data that can be used to train shame sentiment algorithms which can then be tested across the communities." - that's not as easy. The welcoming bot, as far as I know, only runs on Stack Overflow because of one major barrier: one site's rude is another site's daily conversation. This especially applies to Interpersonal Skills, where they quite literally talk about human interaction. If a question happens to include anything related to shame, comments quoting the question could be wrongly deleted. — Zoe 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rao Hammas
@RobertHarvey Yes you are right. though what i think is maybe chat in other window makes it a lil somehow less interactive (i mean people usually don't try to go in chat room when comments are moved). One of the reason could be because there is no proper highlighting that there is an active discussion going on for this topic. Just a lil msg(comments are moved to chat room) after the answer or post doesn't attract people to chat room. I think maybe properly highlighting this that there is an active discussion on this could be useful. (i might be wrong just my opinion) — Rao Hammas 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
"What organization has ever scientifically proven a philosophical quote from the Buddha, or Confucius, or Marcus Aurelius - or, in this case, from AA?" - it has already been disproven by people by accident, Anxiety and depression are just two of the emotions that have been linked to anger. "if the aphorism is truly as powerful as clinical practice seems to suggest and AA seems to believe, " - again, it isn't. — Zoe 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
"This post suggests just a couple of approaches for helping solve the issue of comments meant to shame" - not all unwelcoming comments are meant to shame. Some are outright rude, and some times, people interpret completely neutral, non-rude comments as unwelcoming and express that by violating the CoC while accusing others of violating the CoC. You'll notice that pattern if you ever get into bot-assisted comment flagging — Zoe 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
"Every question that has been asked before is marked as a duplicate. How does someone that is new to the community even get started here if you're required to ask a question just to be able to contribute?" - you're not. You can edit posts and answer as well. When you hit 15 rep IIRC, you'll be able to aid with basic moderation (flagging questions, answers, and comments). When you get more rep, you'll unlock additional moderation tools, like close votes at 3k and delvotes at 10k. There's more ways to contribute than just by asking — Zoe 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
"Comments can't be down voted but their nastiness remains" - you're not meant to downvote comments, or respond to them for that matter. If you see truly rude comments, flag them. That also gets recorded, and will eventually have consequences for people posting such comments — Zoe 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Remy
and SO will be a static site for answers, right? You realize this kind of is the goal right? Having a huge repository of questions and answers people can find their answers on immediately without having to wait for someone to answer their question. Also I think there is a misinterpretation of what the duplicate close is for. it isn't strict punishment, it doesnt make your question invalid, it is a way of creating aliases and new routes for common problems. Not everyone knows the correct terminology, but might use the same description as you. Following the dupe they will now find it. — Remy 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
"Things getting left unanswered because it isn't worth anyone's time to try find a solution" - no, some things get left because it gets buried in the extremely high traffic SO gets every single day. Also, it's perfectly possible to ask a question no one online at the time knows the answer to. — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
It's a bug. It was previously reported on the global Meta siteCody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Remy
Also you make a bold claim that people with x reputation will downvote you just because you don't use their naming convention, where do you pull the data from to make this accusation (votes are anonymous)? In my opinion that is a toxic claim to make, bunching together all high-rep users into some kind of downvote zombie, and "edit post" should never be used to change someone's code beyond formatting, if you (see others) edit to fix naming/code in a question roll it back, or flag a mod for it. — Remy 1 min ago
 
10:35 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Remy
@Makoto I am afraid we can chew on this until our teeth fall out and still not get a response. People are harassers for asking critical question about controversial decisions and asking for clarity. As Cody pointed out the decision was made for deletion and no one is going to overrule it because of the storm that would cause. — Remy 1 min ago
 
10:47 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Remy
Although I am willing to believe that the name change was done out of good will after talking to Monica and changing your opinion, we (the public) are not privy to that information nor is it confirmable and can we only touch in the dark, the timing makes it unfortunate. I don't think it is reasonable to blame the removing of it now, as then it becomes a stalemate where having it is bad, and removing is also bad leaving no way out. With that said I am curious if you have changed your stance about modding since leaving that comment, if you have could you explain why (more faith now than then)? — Remy 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rafa Guillermo
I think that for the sake of uniformity and complexity neither of the google-apps-script trigger tags are needed. I'd be more than happy to do away with them and just have tags built from google-apps-script and triggers. The GAS trigger-specific tags unnecessarity segregate these questions from triggers questions and just increases the change of the questions being missed (I for one would never see a question simply tagged gs-installable-triggers if it wasn't for the inclusion of google-apps-script as well). — Rafa Guillermo 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rafa Guillermo
The gs- prefix for google-apps-script tag branches should be completely abolished anyway, there is a huge relationship between google-sheets and google-apps-script but they do not always correlate, especially as there exist google-sheets specific triggers. — Rafa Guillermo 43 secs ago
 
11:11 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Danny Varod
I know, I can see them, however most users can't. — Danny Varod 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by m4n0
Under a circumstance that people are willing to pay instantly for the services :D — m4n0 1 min ago
 
11:41 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
If the information contained in the wiki of those two tags can be combined, generalized a little and moved to the triggers tag (which I think is more than doable), I would also agree that removing GAS duplication from the tag and subsequent merge will only benefit the questions regarding triggers. — Oleg Valter 1 min ago
 
12:07 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Chuck Le Butt
I know this is a massively downvoted answer, but I frequently come across closed questions that are valid and clearly answerable. I often edit them to try and improve them, but the they RARELY get re-opened. Some sit with 1 reopen vote for months it seems. Here's one I encountered today, for example. I bet it remains closed forever: stackoverflow.com/questions/47581574/…Chuck Le Butt 1 min ago
 
12:57 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 the cynical curator
Adding up to what Zoe said, you can see the kind of comments automatically captured by the heat detector on the Hydrant feed here. Filtering by true positives also allows you to see the pattern described in the comment above. — E_net4 the cynical curator 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette
@Remy I expected heat for the name change, but it just spirals out of control and people can't see the venom in their accusations. Being a mod or running for mod, does entitle people to throw all sorts of accusations at a person, but I cannot convince people of who I am and no longer am willing to try. I honestly loved handling flags on SO and Pets. I dislike MSO and MSE. I've always hated the ability to let all sorts of comments fly in the name of "critiquing" yet there's one measure of standard leveled at me and another for others. They do not see I am not chasing them around. There's one of — Yvette 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette
me and a handful of people who make posts on MSO and MSE about me, every time I'm active. Fortunately one of these people isn't around at the moment or it would be hell. I just do not like the way the site is run. We tried so hard to iron out the rudeness on MSO and made gains. It's not changed. Particularly with a mod supporting this behaviour. I'm caring less and less to be honest. The irony is, I was consistent with my flag handling and handled more flags than most of the other mods ever did over their entire time as mods. But no one tells people that. — Yvette 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette
I changed the name back and now that's further proof of how disingenuous I am, although there's posts outraged I changed my name mid election. So it shows, there's no choice. Yes I made the change for Monica, because I realise she was not fairly treated and it is devastating. There's private pushes behind to scenes to help the appeal process. But none of that matters in terms of the election. MOST people do not follow meta. So it's the usual explosion over little and people wanting to blow things up and use it as proof I'm somehow indecent and nefarious. I'm not sure if I've answered your ques — Yvette 1 min ago
 
1:17 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Aquarius_Girl
Yes I made the change for Monica, because I realise she was not fairly treated and it is devastating I think Monica won't feel bad if you would have changed your username AFTER elections. She can survive without your support for 6 days, I guess. — Aquarius_Girl 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette
@Aquarius_Girl ask Monica yourself and please leave me alone. — Yvette 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
Little known fact. You can use desktop features in mobile. Scroll down to the bottom of the page. Click Enable Responsiveness. — TheMaster 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rubén
I think that triggers is a meta tag — Rubén 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
As far i as i remember it is impossible to serial downvote anyone, the system detects and blocks it — nbk 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rubén
The question misses the previous discussions about triggers Should the [triggers] tag exist?Rubén 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexander Konovalov
P.S. @HereticMonkey one could also use the extended tag description to direct users to other similarly-named tags, like e.g. SageMath does in the [sage] tag. — Alexander Konovalov 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Aquarius_Girl
MOST people do not follow meta. So it's the usual explosion over little That's the problem. Most people do not follow Meta. They don't know you and your history. They may believe your username and give you vote based on that. — Aquarius_Girl 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
Yeah, it's been my experience that few people read the tag descriptions... Or to be more precise, the people who often make tagging errors don't read the tag descriptions. For instance, the [web] tag's excerpt begins with "Do not use this tag" yet I end up editing it out of at least five questions a day. I'm sure there are others who are much more diligent than I. YMMV, and I think you're right that you've got a small workload so it could be that the reward outweighs the risk. I just wanted to warn you of my experience, so you don't become a burnt-out curmudgeon like me :). — Heretic Monkey 1 min ago
 
2:05 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trasiva
I think it's important to comment that at this point Yvette has supposedly marked her account for deletion with an image supposedly confirming as such. We'll know in ~20 minutes. — Trasiva 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Re "...even get started here if you're required to ask a question just to be able to contribute?": No, you can answer questions. There are plenty of niches on Stack Overflow where the only thing required to answer is the grunt work of researching on the Internet (no prior knowledge required) — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Re "Eventually everything will be asked and answered and SO will be a static site for answers, right?: No, a new JavaScript framework is invented every single week, so this will never happen. Also, some day something will replace JavaScript. — Peter Mortensen 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
Yvette is leaving the network - confirmed on pets.SE by herself. Account deletion tends to be slow, so those 20 minutes (that have already expired) mean nothing — Zoe 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Re "Eventually everything will be asked and answered and Stack Overflow will be a static site for answers, right?: No, a new JavaScript framework is invented every single week, so this will never happen. Also, some day something will replace JavaScript. — Peter Mortensen 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Re "all of these questions are "homework"": No, "homework" refers to artificial problems (e.g. with strange constraints that will never happen in the real world). — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
 
2:29 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette
@Zoe it needs to be manually deleted by an employee. Same with the pets one. I'm not sure they are able to delete it while the election runs, in which case they will delete it after. As for people like Trasiva, implying I'm lying and making an issue out of nothing to further proof what a terrible person I am. It shows his blind ignorance, and the site is welcome to people like him. I will spend my time doing things that make me happy. SO can have it's flag queue and see how well they do in getting on top of it. they will not manage. People with sense are leaving. — Yvette 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette
@Zoe I will contribute on codadict and will be back on youtube in a month or so, so people who have supported me and friends I've made can stay in touch. Take care hun xx — Yvette 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
There is no consensus. Only(@jpmc) agrees that it should be burnt-with 9 upvotes and 6 downvotes. @Makoto was against combined tags(database-trigger) in particular, and just wants to clean up. In hindsight, it was the combined tag: database-triggers that was burninated instead of triggers, which exists with a very specific usage guideline compatible with google-apps-script. — TheMaster 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trasiva
I didn't imply anything. I stated that your account was supposedly flagged for deletion and that we'd see. As far as I know, this is the first time this has happened during an election, so I wanted to maintain clarity and transparency. — Trasiva 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Aquarius_Girl
Yvette - All that was required from you was to make a separate thread about Meta community's concern about your username - Accept the concern as valid and "gracefully" remove "Reinstate Monica" from your user name and add it back after the elections. I would have respected you for that but instead all you have doing is posting rants and accusing people. Your behaviour is not worthy of a moderator status. — Aquarius_Girl 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Aquarius_Girl
I'm not sure they are able to delete it while the election runs, in which case they will delete it after. That will be a waste of votes and time of others (if) you get elected. If you are serious about leaving then tell the community managers that you won't be here to moderate. — Aquarius_Girl 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
@Aquarius_Girl "If you are serious about leaving then tell the community managers" - considering SE has to delete the account manually, they kinda already know — Zoe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette
@Aquarius_Girl I did give a simple explanation, but that was long ago ignored. People see what they want to see. I no longer care and it's a relief. Sam was worried about me quitting and people saying "see I told you she was bla bla". I do not care what people think of me on here any more. I know how hard I worked for this site and the hours I put in, that none of you saw. I do not resent that, it was something I believed in at the time. I just no longer want to put any energy into this site again. I'm mentioning the deletion to give supporters a chance for goodbye. I don't dare post on meta. — Yvette 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Christian Rau
@Aquarius_Girl I wouldn't worry about that too much, though. The STV voting system makes it rather easy to transfer votes and just elect the next candidate in line in that case. I'm sure the CMs are on top of this issue, this is quite the news. There's not really too much more Yvette can do other than schedule her account for deletion. If the CMs have no time to process the request, they wouldn't have time for manual contact either. — Christian Rau 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette
@Zoe ikr I told them, Sam, Monica and April Wensel before telling anyone else. — Yvette 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette
@ChristianRau I've left it with the team. I am not sure what they can do mid election. Yeh, if I am elected they can just call up the next person. It's a pain yes, but I do not have to stay on the site. Besides, if people want to complain about that after saying I shouldn't be a mod and even saying I should have left (in other comments) then it's shows it's just an excuse to be mean to someone they think they can get away with it. — Yvette 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
 
3:01 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by David Fisher
@Zoe I specifically remember when I signed up that I had to ask a question before I was allowed to do anything else, comment, vote, edit, etc. — David Fisher 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
@DavidFisher Yeah, it's not meant to do that. Sounds like there's some bad UX dialog out in the wild again (or possibly an email - SE has had a few misses on those lately). Disregarding whatever told you that, that's not the case. You need 50 rep to comment, you need 1 (which is the lowest rep you can have) to edit, 15 to upvote, and 125 to downvote. There's several ways to get that, and you don't have to ask questions to get it. You can answer and edit as well. You can actually earn up to 1000 rep off edits (which is 500 edits) — Zoe 14 secs ago
 
3:15 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by David Fisher
@Remy It's not hard to see the number of views on the page remain static during the time frame of the negative comment and the down vote. Because out of the 5 people that viewed my question, I have someone commenting on the question not being clear, a down vote, and my response can follow with a quote answering their comment looking for clarity. It doesn't seem unreasonable to make that assumption. — David Fisher 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette
Lol a close vote and there's how many resignation and farewell posts? The community team mentioned they or I should write something and I braved it out. Thank God it's the last time. — Yvette 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
WOOF! See you round the food bowl.... — Martin James just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette
@user7412956 thank you!! I plan to! xx — Yvette 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user7412956
So long, and thanks for all the fish. Enjoy your life free of the chains of SO/SE. Brightest Blessings. — user7412956 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette
I'm logging out from this site now and wont' be back. I'll be on Pets a little longer. I've left enough breadcrumbs for those who want to stay in touch to follow. Take care all. — Yvette 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Spevacus
You and I have never interacted before, but I've read much of what you've done in the past as a moderator, and how you've carried yourself in other spaces. Losing you is losing a very, very passionate user, and I seriously wish you all the best as you handle your IRL issues. Good luck, Yvette! — Spevacus 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
If I saw a post tagged c#, postgresql, and triggers I would need to read the entire question just to understand the context of triggers This is a example of a bad question or it's sufficient for the answerer just to know that a trigger is involved. In any case, only two questionsTheMaster 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sébastien Renauld
The first CV was me, and it was largely for one core reason: a farewell note is all fine and good but this is a rant. And the main takeaway for most people (i.e. "I can't get removed from election, don't vote for me, farewell and good luck") is mentioned in-passing. — Sébastien Renauld 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by David Fisher
@PeterMortensen "never" happen in the real world. IDK dude, Floridaman wants to challenge you on that. Also, how many times is the wheel going to be re-invented for the question to be considered a repeat. I also see stuff that says "use use this framework instead" which IMO is completely off topic and out of scope. — David Fisher 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette
@Spevacus the irony is I've put in a lot of hours - as have others, but probably a lot more than my critics will ever realise and how many flags were handled. There's only 3-4 mods who consistently handle flags and they take the weight of the entire team and I was one of them. There is one mod who comes and goes without telling us for very long periods. Will handle loads of flags, then nothing. I handled more flags in my 18 months as mod than the majority of mods in years. They will be hard pushed to keep mods who will last the distance. They will stay as mods, but actually don't handle flags. — Yvette 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
I'll miss you. Good luck! — Dalija Prasnikar 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rubén
Do you have any example of a questions that might have triggers as its one and only tag? — Rubén just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by David Fisher
@S.L.Barth-ReinstateMonica Thanks -- this is normal for me - people don't agree with my world view or see me as blaming others. I'm just trying to shed light on issues that I see to provide a different prospective as to why people like Machavity might be wrong or right. Also pointing out problems in the design: using Remy's and Peter's logic and sprinkling some "nothing new under the sun, redesigning the wheel nonsense - the only questions worth asking are on new things. The newest thing is my attempt to re-create this program that's been done 9001 times already in some slightly different way. — David Fisher 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by F1Krazy
I agree with your last point; "deleting older questions won't help you evade or get out of the question ban" is something that new users really need to be told. — F1Krazy 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rubén
You are missing that triggers can't be used as the one and only tag. — Rubén 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rubén
It looks that you are describing triggers as a meta-tag. — Rubén 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BenSellars
So if I ammend my old posts to what I think is better matched to expectations, will this be picked up? Or until I am of a level where I can answer unanswered questions and recieve upvotes should I just consider myself unwelcome? If that is the case so be it - I understand the site has to be productive. Is there an equivalent site where you can pay for specialist assistance, rather than have to conform to a code of conduct that I don't understand? — BenSellars 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rubén
Not all bad tags should be burninated because the effort that it implies. It's just expected that users who are aware of bad tags don't use them. — Rubén 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
@Rubén No. That's one of the criteria for meta tags. But that's not the only criteria — TheMaster 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
I have to officially ask first: do I have permission to feature this post? — Samuel Liew ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
Being a well defined category is a quality of tags, triggers alone isn't "well defined". It can be interpreted to mean anything in many context. — Braiam 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
ok retracting from the moderator election is ok, i wouldn't do the job eitehr, but as you mentioned there a lot of nice people, so simply take a long break and see what comes. the life will go on without you. — nbk 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rubén
Today [trigger][database-trigger] returns 238 questions — Rubén 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
@Braiam It can only be interpreted as "rules, that when they evaluate to true perform one or more actions". Nothing more. Nothing less. — TheMaster 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ollie
Just wanted to say goodbye, and thank you! — Ollie 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rubén
I don't think this case is comparable to excel + vba Vs excel-vba. — Rubén 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
@Rubén Irrelevant. I'm only defining "meta-tag" as defined in one of those answers. triggers fails the criteria to be defined as a meta tag. Can it be used standalone? Of course not. Does that mean it's a meta tag? No. Why not? Here are some examples provided by Cody: Examples of meta tags are homework, beginner, interesting, urgent, programming, unanswered, and so on. It is not as simple as "a tag that cannot stand alone as a question's sole tag". What then is a meta tag? a "meta tag" is one that describes the nature or type of a question, rather than its content. — TheMaster just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BACON
Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for your help on this, Ham. — BACON 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
... Why is MSO even appearing in that list? — Nick 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ollie
If this question belongs on Meta Stack Exchange and not Meta SO, please tell me. This is my first time posting here. — Ollie 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
Does triggers describes the nature or type of question rather than it's content? No — TheMaster 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
What browser, what version, and on what platform? Firefox 78.0.2 on Ubuntu 20.04 MATE/Cinnamon? — Peter Mortensen 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
I did not know you could do that... anyway, blame caching — Nick 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ollie
@Nick, I added it with the "edit your Communities" button. — Ollie 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rubén
cleaned up my comments to prevent creating yet another chat room — Rubén 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ollie
@Nick, blame caching? — Ollie 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ollie
@AhmedAbdelhameed, perhaps they deleted it. — Ollie 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ahmed Abdelhameed
Someone posted about this earlier today but I can't seem to find the post. — Ahmed Abdelhameed 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
@Rubén Pragmatically speaking, due to the number of watchers, google-apps-script-simple-triggers cannot be used as a standalone tag either. Theoretically speaking, Yes it can be. But practically, No. Classic exampleTheMaster 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ahmed Abdelhameed
@Ollie I can't find it in my browser history though. Weird! I hope I didn't slip into a parallel universe :-D — Ahmed Abdelhameed 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ollie
@AhmedAbdelhameed, this is meant to be posted here? Not Meta SE? — Ollie just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by janw
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rubén
some missing tags: urlfetch, xmlservice. google-sheets-custom-function, and tags related to Google Apps Script advanced services, and add-ons. — Rubén 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Oleg Valter
@Rubén - yep, thank tyou, I have not included all yet :) That said - thank you for making the job easier, for example, add-ons slipped my mind — Oleg Valter 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BenSellars
As a learner with no formal IT background, that encounters challenges beyond the scope of generalist/basic coding support, it would seem more apt to post a question and recieve reponses such as 'I can sort that for $10, $20, $100' than be expected to return a positive contribution from my own limited coding abilities - before more experienced users offer their own answers. I am starting to think I am just on the wrong website. — BenSellars 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
This post is to remain open and undeleted, as it is approved by the CM team. I also have seeked and been granted permission to feature this post as per protocol.Samuel Liew ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sébastien Renauld
@SamuelLiew while this is a moderator resignation on Pets, it isn't here. Can you elaborate why it is tagged as moderator-resignation? — Sébastien Renauld 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@SamuelLiew: This isn't a moderator resignation. Does it deserve special treatment in this capacity? I don't believe it does. — Makoto 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sterling Archer
This comment ^ is not to put down 75,000 flags. It's impressive and thank you for that, but it's a volunteer position that sounds like a demand for praise. Let the numbers speak for themselves, you did awesome work there. — Sterling Archer 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rubén
One more missing tag: google-sheets-macrosRubén 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sterling Archer
If this post is going to be featured, can it at least be edited to be a resignation and not a rant about how she did all the flag work while complaining about the other moderators? Or the distaste in how the CoC is applied subjectively because it doesn't pertain to her opinions 100%? That is why I voted to close this. It's not a resignation, it's a rage quit. I know this is harsh, but I do wish her the best but this is repeated behavior I am not in favor of featuring, as I've seen less deleted quicker. — Sterling Archer 1 min ago
 
4:47 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rubiksmoose
@Makoto I'm guessing the featuring (which is what I assume you mean by "special treatment") here is because it is important to get this information in front of election voters as soon as possible. At the very least, this seems like a valid enough reason to feature to me. — Rubiksmoose 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sébastien Renauld
The feature I don't think anybody objects to. The rant-like behavior is, at least, what I object to. This could've been kept fully constructive and, at best, neutral; it wasn't. The attacks on other mods were also particularly distasteful. — Sébastien Renauld 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@SébastienRenauld: Oh, I'm objecting to featuring this. We had to fight to let them keep actual moderator resignations featured. They're giving this one away because she happens to also be an actual moderator somewhere else on the network, or due to her past service in which she stepped down, or for some reason. Point is, this doesn't deserve the same level of treatment as a mod resignation because it ain't. It's an exceptional circumstance in that this hasn't happened during an election, but IMO I don't see merit to it being featured. — Makoto 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sébastien Renauld
@Makoto I'm okay with featuring as a one-off re: elections. It makes sense to have a featured notice that somebody is dropping out. The ranting, however, makes exactly 0 sense, is non-constructive and completely unwarranted and straight-off harmful in one part of it. — Sébastien Renauld just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@Rubiksmoose: I'm of the distinct impression that the people who would've voted for Yvette are also active members of Meta, and would not have missed this bit of information. — Makoto 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sébastien Renauld
@SamuelLiew You're here since you're rolling the post back repeatedly - can you stop the rollback war and explain why it's a moderator resignation on MSO? — Sébastien Renauld 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@SébastienRenauld: Does it, though?? I'm not sure elections in general could support a candidate dropping out literally as people were going to the polls to support them...but given that the site is at least aware that you've voted in this given election, I would imagine a notice saying, "Hey, you may need to re-cast your ballot because we've had to reset things due to a candidate dropping out" would actually get the attention of the people who cared to vote. This is a ham-fisted way to bridge the same gap and it feels like someone's getting a bit more privilege to flaunt policy. — Makoto 42 secs ago
 
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