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12:15 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
@stevec If you're using code fences there's an even easier shorthand - just add the language tag at the end of the opening fence, e.g. ```java or ```noneJohn Montgomery 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ann Zen
I didn't mention blocking, I said a notification. — Ann Zen 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@AnnZen no, it would not be better to block/notify everyone from editing if someone started editing. You are welcome to create "feature-request" for that so someone can find duplicate explaining reasoning. — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ann Zen
I can feature request about this? — Ann Zen 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MER
@user4642212 I don't subscribe to the idea of a canonical question. I subscribe to the idea of many canonical answers. A question has key words that are valuable for finding answers. A question is only valuable as a general context for answers AND the ability for future users to find said answers. When a user searches, they would find the question that most closely matches the one they asked... with answers first, from that question, then, if they scroll further to answers to merged questions (order determined by how similar the questions are to the initial) — MER 56 secs ago
 
12:45 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ann Zen
This is not a question, it's a feature request. — Ann Zen 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DontKnowMuchBut Getting Better
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ann Zen
I’m voting to close this question because I posted another similar post, but this time, it's a feature request post, not a support post. — Ann Zen 17 secs ago
 
1:07 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
Please search for duplicates first. — Samuel Liew ♦ 40 secs ago
 
1:17 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Is Fiddling By Firelight
And the question's been punted to Ask Ubuntu; hopefully it'll get a better reception there. As as power user/admin question it looks plausible; but I don't have the domain knowledge to evaluate directly. — Dan Is Fiddling By Firelight 45 secs ago
 
1:29 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ann Zen
@SamuelLiew Alexei Levenkov suggested this. — Ann Zen 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by aris
There are a lot of dumb websites that have all of these dependencies on google, facebook and so on, not realizing that people block these domains for privacy and other reasons. — aris 1 min ago
 
 
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2:51 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
That’s exactly what I thought, @Dan. :-) — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
Just FYI, it seems that the issue here is that current deletion (red flags or otherwise) are triggering audits on old questions. — Machavity 50 secs ago
 
 
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4:07 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user207421
@TheTechRobo36414519 I have no idea whether you penalise rejected edits, but you should. Your system should have risks as well as rewards. Otherwise you're just encouraging risk-free robo-behaviour. — user207421 50 secs ago
 
4:45 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by histrionics
The error comes from a python program, specifically a Python extension — histrionics 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by histrionics
The error comes from a pytorch extension written in python, which occurs when you run the python script. I included the specific options used to run that python script, the minimal code necessary to replicate the problem. I also included the traceback with a copy of the lines causing the error and their line numbers, along with a link to the source code. — histrionics 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by histrionics
Maybe your suggestions are correct -- but look at the hundreds of other questions in python and pytorch. Mine now has one of the lowest ratings of all of them at -7 and is being targeted for closure. It's really amazing so many seem to be pretending that it's an exceptionally bad question, below the standard for open questions on SO... instead of acknowledging that -- at least at this point -- SO is allowing folks with lots of clout to target it. — histrionics 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by histrionics
We don't really need SO to answer it at this point, I'm not going to engage more with this. It just seems awful to see this happening, that it looks like there's no mechanism to prevent it and lots of pressure to enable it. — histrionics 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by histrionics
Alright, thanks for your discussion Cody, I appreciate it. Should I delete this question to prevent it from spiraling further? — histrionics 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@user207421 When one of my edits was marked rejected due to it being preempted, because someone hadn't noticed there was a suggested edit waiting, I had a feeling that it was probably best to never edit anything again, and I chose to uBlock the edit option. You've just confirmed that I made the right choice. — Scratte 1 min ago
 
5:37 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by customcommander
Fair enough; will do that. Don't moderators carry out some due diligence first though? For example the link between the answer and the user is obvious if you looked at the user profile. — customcommander 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ivarni
@customcommander Considering the amount of mods we've lost and the amount of flags that get raised I'm impressed they're even processed to be honest. — ivarni 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Well, yeah. Obviously the mod who handled the flag didn't see it in this case. It's a toss-up. Sometimes we do, sometimes we miss it. For example, when answering this question, I missed the fact that the answer was edited in-between the time your flag was raised and handled. The edit removed all the links, and made it look even less like an answer. There's an awful lot of stuff to remember to look at... — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ivarni
I've no idea if it's a duplicate or not since I don't know the tech involved but I'm curious about how you know it wasn't read? Anyway, the usual process to getting it re-opened is to edit it and explain why the duplicate does not apply. It'll get put into a review-queue. — ivarni 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
Does this mean that we should now edit in affiliation? It seems to be a new approach. — Scratte 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Do you have any evidence that your question was not read? Or are you perhaps jumping to conclusions, attributing to malice that which could be easily explained by a misunderstanding (or, heaven forbid, even a lack of clarity on the part of your question)? — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Nothing wrong with flagging for moderator intervention if you want a mod to make the judgment call, especially using evidence only available to mods (like deleted answers by the same user, spamming the same thing). Don't take my decision to edit the disclaimer into this particular answer as evidence that you or anyone else should always do that, without involving a mod. — Cody Gray ♦ 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
@Scratte Not new. You know that my approach has always been to preserve value whenever possible. This might be spam according to a restrictive definition, but at the same time, from what I can tell, it is also a useful, alternative solution to the problem. That means deleting it would be doing the community and the Internet a disservice. Since it can be salvaged and all problems avoided by adding attribution, I prefer to do that. Naturally, I'm not going to do it for blatantly inappropriate/inapplicable spam, or for someone who is a chronic spammer, blasting their nonsense everywhere. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark-4421
My evidence is that the answer provided returns .lightContent text coloring for all views. I've seen so many variations of the same solution that doesn't allow for dynamically changing color per view. The problem is that my original question DOES explain the difference 1) In the title and 2) In the first sentence. — Mark-4421 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
It strains credibility. If the question was not read, how would someone have chosen an ostensibly applicable duplicate? If they hadn't read it and just chosen something at random, it's more likely to have been closed as a duplicate of a Java question or something. Granted, you do make the claim in the first sentence that "all the solutions [you've] seen on Stack Overflow" don't work, but that type of thing is rarely taken at face value. The close voters may well have assumed you missed that other question, the scores to its answers suggesting it does work. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
Personally, I would not edit in such thing. I would only ask the author to do it, and see what happens. Previously I'd been inclined to bring attention to a problem if they chose to not edit in the affiliation. — Scratte 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
So why doesn't your question reference some of those solutions and say. *My research has turned up these questions and answers but they aren't suitable because..." — Robert Longson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
I rarely bother with asking the author to do things. If they were going to do it, they would have done it from the outset. Experience tells me that sort of advice is almost always ignored, which leaves the problematic content visible on the site. If I can fix it myself, and I think that doing so would preserve/add value, then I will. Otherwise, I'm just going to delete the post. It's the same thing as with typos. I'm not going to leave a comment suggesting for you to fix them when I can just edit and fix them myself. As I said, flagging for mod review is always a reasonable choice. — Cody Gray ♦ 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark-4421
The question was not read in full. The first sentence was also not read in full. If they were, the users would understand what I've explained here (assuming they understand Swift). The solutions that don't work-- I address that in my last sentence. The changes happening to the Swift language are seemingly outpacing Stack Overflow answers. I've seen enough instances of answers being updated in the past, and then are still in need of another update today. — Mark-4421 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
The last sentence in your question is vague. Be specific, link to exactly what you've researched and why it is unsuitable for your use case. — Robert Longson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark-4421
I didn't think that would be necessary to list my research since all the unrelated solutions are essentially the same. Like I've said before, the majority of the solutions available only return .lightContent. A Swift developer would understand that this isn't dynamic and neither allows for changing text color per view. It tells me that the users who marked my question duplicate completely missed this detail, which could only occur if they didn't fully read what I wrote, and/or the solutions they linked to. — Mark-4421 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ivarni
Well, if you're not willing to edit the question to make that point even clearer then chances are it will stay closed. That's unfortunately how it works. If you've spent the same amount of energy on an edit that you've spent here it would already be in the reopen-review queue. — ivarni just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
The question will only be re-opened if you edit it first. Because that puts it in front of new users that are then again tested on their ability to read a question. — rene 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Haem
@SecurityHound good point. I suppose I should amend it to "each applicable answer", which in this case would narrow it down to 1 answer. — Haem 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Closing questions doesn't give you rep. But I guess my comment is futile ... — rene 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark-4421
If the people who answer on this site actually read the questions they're supposed to answer, I wouldn't be here. But how else can they get into the top 0.02% and 0.01% of users without lowering their quality of reading and answering. I'm very bitter because I thought I would get help on this site for a problem I've been working hard to solve. I didn't expect running into politics and users that answer frivolously just to boost their numbers. — Mark-4421 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Listen: we are disappointed that we didn't bring the right guidance in front of you at the time you needed it most. We know that fallacy exist on the site. All we can do on Meta is help you with guidance and advice to get the question back on track. That is maybe sub-optimal but it has proven to be working in some cases. I'm also bitter but hey, this better then Quora. — rene 26 secs ago
 
6:49 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Stop trying to throw blame around. Regardless of your intention, it was not clear, objectively speaking, from your question that you had seen the other solutions, already tried them, and determined that they did not work. It was not clear to the two people who voted to nominate your question as a duplicate, and it was not clear to me even after reviewing that decision. Voting to close a question as a duplicate gains you zero reputation and arguably hurts your standing: you would get more points by just posting a duplicate answer. Folks who moderate the site do so because they care. — Cody Gray ♦ 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark-4421
Well I appreciate that you guys answered my concerns. I just want a solution to my problem and I can't find it on my own. That's the only reason I dared to use Stack Overflow. I'm going to edit my question as was suggested. — Mark-4421 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
You've been told how you can fix the problem, by editing your question to clarify why it is not a duplicate. This is the standard approach, and it is definitely applicable in your case. It is your choice whether or not you want to do this, but if you choose not to do so, then you can hardly blame the site or justify any sort of bitterness. Is the site perfect? No. Do people sometimes misunderstand or make mistakes? Yes. Let me know when you find a site where that doesn't happen. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
 
7:03 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ch3steR
Thank you for the clarification. I'll be more careful while flagging. — Ch3steR 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
@Ch3steR No worries. It's a common mistake. Thanks for asking and being receptive to an explanation. We nevertheless appreciate you reviewing and working to keep the site clean. For more background, read the answer to the FAQ that I marked this as a duplicate of: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/265553Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ch3steR
I'm a member for 6 months now not well versed with all of the SO rules. I mostly hang out in python and pandas tag, where answers are posted in the comments when a question is too basic, I totally forgot the comment section should be used for clarification. — Ch3steR 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Answers should never be posted in the comments. Basic questions are fine and deserve a proper answer, unless they are otherwise unsuitable for Stack Overflow (e.g., too broad, unclear, a duplicate, etc.), and in that case, they should be closed, not answered in comments. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
 
7:47 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BSMP
...along with a link to the source code. @histrionics Wait, were you asking people to debug the code at one of the GitHub links? — BSMP 1 min ago
 
8:29 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
Isn't that a yes argument? If the search is bad, shouldn't we than motivate people to point askers to the duplicate (and not easily findable) questions? And in general, what has the poor search to do with rewarding duplicate finders or not? — BDL 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adrian Mole
Also note that, even if you have done 40 reviews (and get correctly thanked for your efforts), if the queue size then later falls below the relevant threshold, the message shown in the 'all queues' list - here - will revert to the "20" version. — Adrian Mole 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Flithor
@BDL Well, maybe your right — Flithor 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
I don't get it - why is this posted here? If the DMCA was against a GH repo, that isn't related to SO at all. (disclaimer: I'm not a lawyer, this is not legal advice, blah blah) The code is licensed under CC-By-SA 2.5-4.0. Attribution is required. If you build an entire repo around an answer without proper attribution, and a license change, that's technically a license violation. But as already mentioned, there's nothing SO can do about it. Contest the DMCA if you really disagree, but posting on meta won't do anything. — Zoe just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Google already does search perfectly well. Why should Stack Overflow reinvent this wheel? — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Flithor
@CodyGray A great rhetorical question! Because in some of country in this world, Google is a not exist site. — Flithor just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
Also, from the language used in the DMCA notice, you can tell this is an individual and not a company. If SO pushed the takedown notice, it would probably be run through their lawyers, who would send a takedown notice with fancy lawyer language, not what actually was sent. — Zoe 56 secs ago
 
9:05 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by timmey
Well, one can of course interpret the sentence in this way. But "But Stack Overflow should only be ONE of the options available." is a very vague formulation and actually an almost void statement. Furthermore, it says "so issues like bug reporting, feature requests, and generalized discussions do not fit our Q&A format. The company should continue providing this type of support directly through their website." . This can be interpreted as: yes, Stack Overflow is fine for all technical Q&A, but other formats are needed for other types of questions. — timmey 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
In general, I agree this is not appropriate. But note that the asker of the question agreed that the proposed question answered theirs. Anyway, I added several other dupes that are a bit more general. — Cody Gray ♦ 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sybille Peters
@Rounin I agree. — Sybille Peters 1 min ago
 
9:27 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
As far as I understand, the country that blocks Google also blocks Stack Overflow. — Cody Gray ♦ 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
While I'm at it, I find it ironic that this shows up after SE wrote a post on copy-pastaZoe 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Flithor
@CodyGray In fact, no. It's just that Stackoverflow uses some Google APIs, which makes peoples difficult for those countries to access SO normally. If SO can solve this problem, it would be better. — Flithor 1 min ago
 
10:09 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Just learned it
I can't edit the question. Can someone please include a screenshot? — Just learned it 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bohemian
@Justlearnedit link to screen shot added (best I could do from my phone) — Bohemian ♦ 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zera
@AaronShekey There are a few minor, non-duplicate reports that haven't been added to the list yet: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/397388/10046076, meta.stackoverflow.com/a/397421/10046076, meta.stackoverflow.com/a/397422/10046076, meta.stackoverflow.com/a/397447/10046076. Should I add them? — Zera 1 min ago
 
10:27 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Patrice
@Mark then I'll be a bit cynical.... You needed to use stack to get a solution, but seemed unwilling to listen to Stack's guidance.... This was bound to not end well — Patrice 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Felix G
I think that heavily depends on the question. In this case it was about coding style, and in my opinion that would generally be an example where it is not appropriate to close as duplicate. That's because what's best-practice in one language might very well be considered an anti-pattern in another (like casting the result of malloc, which is mandatory in C++ but an anti-pattern in C). Of course that isn't really the case for this particular question, but still worth considering. — Felix G 12 secs ago
 
10:47 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Felix G
On a related note: should questions about coding style be closed as opinion-based? (since there isn't really an official "correct" coding style for most programming languages) — Felix G 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by max
I'm being hit by the 40 minute rule on japanese.stackexchange.com just now. I was a member there since 2015 (without asking any questions). I've been a member on SE in general since 2010, with hundreds of posts on different sites. Isn't it unreasonable to count me as a "new user" for the purpose of spam prevention? — max 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by RobertS supports Monica Cellio
@FelixG - Yes, I wanted to answer you regarding that to your first comment myself but didn´t do it in the first place. The difference here is that the OP asked for if there is a fundamental difference between both methods. S/he didn´t explicitly asked for difference in the manner it would be coding-style. It just later turned out to be a coding-style question. Thus, the vote to close as opinion-based would, IMHO, not be appropriate here. If OP had asked with the knowledge that there is no technical downside or advantage for one case, I´d vote to close as opinion-based. — RobertS supports Monica Cellio 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by eri0o
I just got downvoted in 4 different questions of different subjects at the same minute like OP. I came here looking for some possible action to take but it appears there's no one to report. This makes me concerned. — eri0o 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by xdtTransform
related : meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/290046/…, meta.stackexchange.com/questions/226583/…. Answers in other language were considered "okay" as they show the "pseudocode". But for dupe it really depends on the question. — xdtTransform 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Felix G
@RobertSsupportsMonicaCellio good point. So i guess in this particular case, because of the way the question was worded, there actually was a correct (and not opinion-based) answer: "it doesn't matter". And that people still decided to throw in their personal opinion is not OPs fault, because they didn't actually ask for that. — Felix G 1 min ago
 
12:05 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user207421
@Scratte It is impossible not to notice there is a suggested edit waiting. You are given the choice of approving or rejecting or approving the edit. If yours was rejected, somebody thought there was something wrong with it. — user207421 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheTechRobo36414519
@user207421 I meant, does SE penalize them? Not really, many times on SO back when I thought that code backticks compared with tabs deserved an edit, I had rejected edits (because they didn't change anything) and didn't lose any rep. It should probably be penalized, but it isn't, so why should dupes be any different? — TheTechRobo36414519 1 min ago
 
12:23 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
But hallway usability testing should have caught it(?) — Peter Mortensen 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
I will be more clear. Do not submit a comment to the author’s of random answers. If there is a problem flag the answer so a moderator can deal with it. Even flagging for a moderator has its problems, realistically, it’s up to the copyright holder to deal with. So unless that’s you disregard the advice contained within this answer. — Security Hound 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DavidPostill
"however it renders OK when saved. " Arguable since it doesn't show anything between foo and bar. Maybe it should display as foo?bar which is what notepad++ displays ... — DavidPostill 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
But hallway usability testing (or the equivalent virtual version) should have caught it(?) — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Shouldn't this have been caught by a regression test? — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
@customcommander: You should make the job of moderators as easy as possible. Anything you can do, you should do, including providing sufficient context (answering the "Why?"). E.g. "I suggest to do X because of A, B, and C. See reference K, L, and M"Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
@customcommander: You should make the job of moderators as easy as possible. Anything you can do, you should do, including providing sufficient context (answering the "Why?") (even if it requires more work on your part). That includes not having to follow links 3 levels deep. Serve the information on a platter (possibly the wrong idiom). E.g. "I suggest to do X because of A, B, and C. See reference K, L, and M"Peter Mortensen 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Haem
@SecurityHound I'm not sure I follow; I'm suggesting that the owner of the repository get in touch with the copyright holder, and you seem to be claiming that getting in touch with the copyright holder is something the copyright holder should do. I trust you don't mean to imply that the copyright holder should hold a dialogue with themselves. — Haem 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Vinko Vrsalovic
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
Will there be a blog post about the results? — Samuel Liew ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@user207421 You're making the wrong assumption here. They didn't notice there was a suggested edit, and used a script that forced an edit. There are several posts about this issue too. But you made another valid point here: I am assumed to be a bad editor. I think this same thing will happen with duplicate suggestions. People will assume the suggester is in the wrong. Basically the only right thing to do is not making any suggestions. — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by customcommander
@PeterMortensen Will do next time. Thanks for your feedback. — customcommander 7 secs ago
 
1:53 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
 
2:13 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ggorlen
@histrionics You don't see any other posts in the tag with a less than 3 score because they got deleted. Employees and subject experts want to help people in the tags they are experts in. They want to know about bugs and issues in their software. The employee you mention has answered hundreds of questions in the tag. The tag is an extension of their support forum or github issues thread. The idea that the closure is part of a silencing campaign is the least likely explanation. I think your question is missing code to reproduce the problem (but I don't know the technology). — ggorlen 1 min ago
 
2:25 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
Don't engage in an edit war, instead custom moderator flag the post and let the moderators sort out what should happen. — Robert Longson 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
I've locked the post and linked here. — Samuel Liew ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
I am suggesting the copyright holder shouldn't submit comments to answers. An answer that contains a link to a repository that is inaccessible is a problem the community should deal with. — Security Hound 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
I suspect the user is using the API to push automated tag edits, but also updating the post incorrectly with HTML. E.g.: exact same edit reapplied after rolling back stackoverflow.com/posts/62031142/revisionsSamuel Liew ♦ just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
Testcafe employee automatically trying to add more tags to the [testcafe] tag? — Samuel Liew ♦ 32 secs ago
 
3:07 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by histrionics
No, the problem is in the given options and inputs. Again — weird that providing a link to the full source code is what’s suspect and gets your attention... and not the dozens of users dogpiling & targeting the question into oblivion as blowback to my meta post. — histrionics 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by histrionics
No, the problem is in the given options and inputs. Again — weird that providing a link to the full source code is what’s now suspect to you... and not the dozens of users dogpiling & targeting the question into oblivion as retribution. — histrionics 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by F1Krazy
I wish more Meta disputes ended this amicably. — F1Krazy 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by toolic
Does this answer your question? Deal with typos automatically?toolic 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
We have Peter Mortensen ... — rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Maybe it is my curiosity but can you elaborate why you made these edits? If you feel that is none of my or our business feel free to ignore then. — rene 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by U3.1415926
thanks @rene, how can we add items to the list of words Peter is working on? — U3.1415926 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by U3.1415926
@toolic; not exactly. What I would like is a bot which is looking at a list which is accessible (e.g. as a normal post) and any words which are added to that list has to undergo the same review process as any other edits, but instead of creating 100 of edits, one does a single edit, a single review. — U3.1415926 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
This should really be handled client-side. Eye halve a spelling checquer, and all that. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by U3.1415926
@CodyGray; took me a second to read your message; I am not proposing a "42" machine which solves everything, one at a time! — U3.1415926 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Edric
Thanks for clarifying the edits. (P.S. Just curious, but is there a reason why the automated software you're (possibly) using modifies the markup to an HTML form as well? And your automated software has re-edited the question again to include the HTML markup.) — Edric 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by U3.1415926
Wikipedia is collaboratively editable; the bot will not prevent me to edit. — U3.1415926 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Edric
I don't think this answer is beneficial enough to resolve the issue - they have once again revised the question (revision 11) to re-add the HTML markup. — Edric 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@U3.1415926: This ain't Wikipedia, and this is more a philosophical stance more than anything else. Most of the entry-level edits people make are to typos. In fact, there aren't many other edits that could be made besides typos (save for the occasional code reformatting). Adding a bot to do that would really make me question why we should bother editing anything at all. — Makoto 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Edric
@SamuelLiew I don't think the post should be unlocked as the user has since re-edited the question to re-add the HTML markup again in revision 11, which was done 5 minutes after the post was unlocked. — Edric 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by U3.1415926
The question highlighted by @toolic has good statistics of the number of typos, I think the magnitude of the number of typoes, edits, and reviews calls for a bot. — U3.1415926 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
What about where questions are about writing a spellchecker? — Nick just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@U3.1415926: ...or more people who want to edit... and while the latter is notoriously difficult to actually motivate, it'd do a ton better than just writing something automated to do that for us IMO. Humans do a better job with context than bots. — Makoto 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by U3.1415926
I think I understand your point @Makoto, but I still don't see why one should exclude the other? — U3.1415926 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
@SamuelLiew he also did it for the other post you unlocked too: stackoverflow.com/q/62035056/8620333Temani Afif 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
Perhaps the timeframe of 6-8 years (or perhaps decades) on Community rejected edits displayed as “rejected” is misleading hasn't helped getting more editors. At least a bot will not care. — Scratte 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
This post should be locked as is! :) — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
you will get banned if you continue such edits ... why are you still editing if you said i will not perform edits in such manner anymore ? — Temani Afif 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
It seems that this user is automatically editing (using a tool) all "testcafe" related question to automatically add tags. This should not be allowed at all. Edits should be done by a human not a machineTemani Afif 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
This is one of my favourite answers of yours. — rene 38 secs ago
 
4:41 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Benjamin W.
@U3.1415926 Peter's project is documented here and there's a GitHub repo, the list floats around somewhere there, probably. — Benjamin W. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
I'm in bed now, but have blocked further edits for the time being. Please help to roll back any posts that needs it. — Samuel Liew ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 the Rustacean
Guess now we'll only know the true reason behind these edits after a month. — E_net4 the Rustacean 1 min ago
 
5:15 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ann Zen
At least if the questions are high level, and receive high level answers, other developers can benefit from it. — Ann Zen 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by toolic
I upvoted too early :( — toolic 6 secs ago
 
5:37 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shog9
Naw; spammers got wise to the whole, "create pile of accounts & let 'em age before use" trick years ago, @max - actual activity is the only reliable metric. — Shog9 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ann Zen
Can you give me a link for more info? — Ann Zen 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
Why should you get your reputation back for commenting? You only get it back if the post gets deleted (or you take back your downvote). — Jeanne Dark 1 min ago
 
5:53 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
Either that, or the suspension was to stop the edits while the mods work out whatever actually happened. Considering they were last seen 2 hours ago (in spite of editing an hour ago; yes, there's a discrepancy between last seen and when someone actually was last on the site, but it's a decent indicator in this case), it's likely an automated system — Zoe 1 min ago
 
6:49 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
SEDE can offer you that stats, but it is refreshed once a week, on sunday. — rene 2 mins ago
 
7:01 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ann Zen
I don't understand this very well. Besides, I was wondering if there's simple place to check how much rep i earned excluding rep from accepts daily, like the trophy icon. — Ann Zen 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
@AnnZen that is what the table above shows. — rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Rayson
"in such a manner" ... sounds to me like he thought tweaking his script was enough to silence this op ... He shouldn't be using a script to edit anythingDan Rayson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by M.A.R.
@Ann Stack Exchange Data Explorer is the tool for checking things like this. You can check out its "help" to find out more about it. Rene composed a quick query that gives you the amount of reputation you earned in a single day. — M.A.R. 1 min ago
 
7:35 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by toolic
You can gain rep with answers, not comments. That is incentive for some. — toolic 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mr. Zen
I know, but for some reason some users choose to not gain rep but answer the questions in the comments. Not a problem per se of course, just wondering. — Mr. Zen 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ann Zen
@rene But I meant the current day, so we will be aware that our rep is soon reaching the limit. — Ann Zen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
The intention of mentioning it might be some kind of confirmation that SO is on the right track. I guess it does not include some concrete goals achieved. It's only a relative statement. Feeling more welcome could include still feeling not very welcome. — Trilarion 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by toolic
Your question is "how to incentivise?". Maybe you need to clarify what you're after here. — toolic 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
You could profit from it. Copy the comment into an answer, give attribution, wait for upvotes. — Trilarion 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
It seems that significantly less people took the survey this year compared to last year. — Trilarion 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
Are you sure these comments should be answers? Sometimes I place a comment on a question that is closeable - for example a very simple typo. I VTC and mention in comment what is wrong. I then hate it when answers pop up because 1. it's a trivial issue 2. it puts the question out of reach for the roomba. — VLAZ 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
Typo questions should be closed, not answered, because they aren't useful for future readers and answering them makes it harder for them to get deleted so they just clutter up the site. — John Montgomery 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
@AnnZen I've added a link to the API. I can't further test that as I'm IP banned at the moment due to a throttle violation caused by my testing. — rene 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mr. Zen
Is there something as an answer that's too trivial? Even if it's a typo, it's the answer to the problem, right? — Mr. Zen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
I sometimes do that when I vote to close a question but still want to help the OP (e.g. fixing a typo or pointing them in the direction of the resources they need). Incentivizing an actual answer there would be counterproductive. For "real" questions, the upvotes from a proper answer are incentive enough. — John Montgomery 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mr. Zen
Good point, makes sense. — Mr. Zen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by animuson
@DavidPostill We don't control what browsers or operating systems do with unknown characters, and that's not our responsibility. That's a system font issue. It displays a weird bordered box for me in Chrome on Windows. — animuson ♦ 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
VTC as "needs details or clarity" or "needs debugging details". If I cannot see images, then your answer to the question would be useless to me. I don't know what you've answered. — VLAZ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
I would expect anyone to edit their post to clarify it. If this drives away first time posters, then.. be it. — Scratte 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by toolic
It might drive away those who don't want to understand/abide the rules of the site, or it might encourage them to abide. — toolic 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jacob Kopczynski
Strongly disagree. People mark questions as duplicates far too often as it is; encouraging it further is a terrible idea. — Jacob Kopczynski 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Wai Ha Lee
You can parse the contents of your reputation log at stackoverflow.com/reputation - which is live. — Wai Ha Lee 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Wai Ha Lee
You should note that the results date of the 2020 survey are set to today for your calculations. — Wai Ha Lee 1 min ago
 
8:27 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Blastfurnace
It looks like that person has been doing this HTML thing since at least March 16. There's a lot of edits to look at. — Blastfurnace 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BSMP
I was under the impression that we aren't allowed to transcribe images. Is this just for suggested edits or about the amount of text in the image? — BSMP 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ann Zen
Thanks, this is what I'm looking for. — Ann Zen 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
And as usual unless these edits excluded from "put question to reopen queue" this will totally kill any chances for questions to be re-opened... — Alexei Levenkov 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
It was rejected. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
Indeed it is totally wrong edit - type of the file is not directly related to its extension... — Alexei Levenkov 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Philip Rego
Not totally wrong. You can nitpick but formatting JSON is a very common use case. This answer is high on google results. — Philip Rego just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
I've updated the question to ask one question. Presumably you are more interested in what happened to your edit rather than general state of the review queue - feel free to edit the question again to clarify (but don't add second question back). — Alexei Levenkov 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Philip Rego
Why does it say "Suggested edit queue is full". It should say "Your edit was rejected and we don't want you to make another edit to questions on this page. Post your own answer if you like." — Philip Rego 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
"Not totally wrong" is not really good enough reason to accept change to highly visited/voted post... — Alexei Levenkov 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Philip Rego
@AlexeiLevenkov Formatting JSON should be though — Philip Rego 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Philip Rego
@yivi Is it? If you click edit does it say the same thing? — Philip Rego 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
@Philip The edit being rejected and the review queue being full today are separate issues. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
@Philip Users with more than 2K do not have to go through the review queue for edits. They can edit directly. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@PhilipRego if you feel that updating that question is important I'd recommend asking separate question (here on meta) discussing that - comments on another question is not the right place to discuss that. Note that since the linked question is not specifically about JSON your proposed change should cover all languages. At the very least inlining most voted comment would be much better change (also OP indeed could have done it themselves if they deem it valuable). — Alexei Levenkov 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
We really need TOFQ ("take over the question") functionality - it's somewhat unfortunate that there is "approve and edit" that takes responsibility for edits but no "edit and take over" for question - that would let one edit a question they find valuable and accept full responsibility for downvotes that come with it... — Alexei Levenkov just now
 
9:05 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Davy M
I'm confused, you say that people "close them as dupes before I get a useful answer about 50% of the time," but doesn't the duplicate have the useful answer you needed, and the person who found it was even faster than someone typing out a new answer? It seems that closing as a duplicate gives you that useful answer you're seeking, unless you're asserting that the target question is not an accurate duplicate. — Davy M 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
Duplicate closing doesn't delete the question. You have 15 questions on SO currently, non of them closed as duplicate. — BDL 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
@BSMP I do not subscribe to the general philosophy espoused in the linked Q&A. That is, I do not think it is inappropriate to transcribe images, nor do I think that suggested edits doing so should be rejected on that basis alone. Naturally, doing this is purely optional, and it is a lot to ask, so I certainly don't expect anyone to do it instead of closing. And if you do decide to do it, you definitely need to be careful not to introduce transcription errors (that would be grounds to reject the edit). Furthermore, you should only do it when, as I said, your edit would salvage the question. — Cody Gray ♦ 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
@AlexeiLevenkov That seems like it would only lead to abuse. If you see something in the question that deserves being answered and it doesn't look like the OP is going to fix it, you can always just ask a new question about it directly (in my experience though, 99% of these questions are either way too broad or duplicates anyway). — John Montgomery 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
I don't see why we need a "take over" feature, @Alexei. The site is collaboratively edited. The only real "privileges" that a question-asker has are (A) receiving/losing rep from votes, and (B) selecting an answer. I just don't see compelling reason to change the way either of those privileges are distributed, especially not because someone made an edit, no matter how substantial. Edits are still supposed to respect the author's intent. We're not talking about editing in code that they didn't intend to be there. It's still their question. — Cody Gray ♦ 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
I've closed this as a dupe of the FAQ on auditing rep gain/loss. If you want to add some discussion of SEDE queries related to rep into that Q&A, I'd have no problem with that. Others might find it more useful than the text-only /reputation endpoint. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
 
9:29 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
I think the line for when it's OK to transcribe code should be just as hard as when it's OK to have code in images. Meaning: never. The risk of introducing transcribing errors is just too high. In addition I don't think suggested edit reviewers should have to go through images of code matching each character from image to text one character at a time. In addition, one cannot know what type of whitespace was present in the original code. Also, copy paste from e.g. the official javadoc often leaves invisible characters that my compiler will complain about. — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Davy M
That sounds like a political problem on the government's side, it's not SO's fault that that government chooses to block one of the most useful tools known to man. I'm not sure why it should be up to SO to solve that problem. But that's a whole different can of worms not related to this answer. — Davy M 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
@JacobKopczynski People write repetitive answers under well-known duplicate questions far too often to gain more rep, instead of correctly closing them as duplicates. Would you encourage low-quality answers littering the site and fragmenting information? Do you have evidence that “people mark questions as duplicates far too often? If so, given that any question closed as duplicate can be reopened if substantially edited, do you have evidence that closing as duplicate is problematic in any way? — user4642212 47 secs ago
 
9:55 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
The site is collaboratively edited. One of the major advantages of this is that we can all help fix problems. As such, I'm just not on board with introducing any sort of blanket prohibition against edits that transcribe code from imagines, or indeed any edits that can salvage a question, rescuing it from a state where it needs to be closed into a state where it can be answered. There's always a non-trivial risk of introducing errors when making edits. The editor needs to be diligent, and so do the reviewers, and there are always rollbacks as a failsafe. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jason Punyon
Hey Andy, I'm going to edit in my response here, as it's kind of long and has a picture to go with it — Jason Punyon ♦ 55 secs ago
 
10:43 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@Brondahl so, Heretic Monkey proved me right: "a good portion of what is being proposed is already in place". I will reiterate myself: it demonstrate a lack of the understanding of the basic underpinnings of the site. — Braiam 10 secs ago
 
10:55 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kirk Broadhurst
@BDL no - but I would hope that before implementing this (or any change like this) SO technical product owners perform a plenty of data analysis to understand the nature of duplicate closures. — Kirk Broadhurst just now
 
11:45 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by LinkBerest
As someone in the less welcome group I will just state that all the reasons you quoted happened as a direct result of SE trying (and failing) to be welcoming (M was fired due to over-reaction on a "welcoming issue" at the least) so based on your data I don't see what you are trying to say @JasonPunyon. Note, its been at least 5 years with the welcoming issue or maybe I justl had more hope back thenLinkBerest 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
 

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