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12:13 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DontKnowMuchBut Getting Better
This does not appear to be an on-topic question, one that deals with SO meta issues. — DontKnowMuchBut Getting Better just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ray Butterworth
What topics can I ask about here? - Help Center - Retrocomputing Stack Exchange shows that history questions are allowed in the retrocomputing site. — Ray Butterworth 1 min ago
 
12:43 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ann Zen
Did I get a reinstatement because the computer haven`t noticed the other incorrect review the day before? — Ann Zen 44 secs ago
 
1:21 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
No, this is extremely unlikely to ever be added, considering that development of the mobile apps is frozen and recent circumstances have even resulted in the iOS app being pulled from the App Store. There is no reason to spend effort developing mobile apps. The website has a "responsive" mode, which is highly usable on all mobile devices. — Cody Gray ♦ 57 secs ago
 
1:31 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
That's the whole point of a userscript: it automatically injects JavaScript into the loaded page. You can paste the same code manually into the console and it will work, but it will not persist across page loads or even refreshes, which makes this mighty inconvenient. — Cody Gray ♦ 50 secs ago
 
 
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4:01 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Justin Time - Reinstate Monica
This is an example of what you should flag as Very Low Quality: It makes no sense whatsoever, (barring this explanation) doesn't even try to answer the question, and (barring this explanation) is a link-only "answer". If an answer is better than this, DON'T FLAG IT. — Justin Time - Reinstate Monica 16 secs ago
 
4:13 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Justin Time - Reinstate Monica
Sorry, @S.S.Anne, but your edit (and presumable subsequent removal of the linked comment, as well as the other comments) actively harmed my response. Yes, comments are ephemeral, but that doesn't mean you should delete them and significantly weaken the example simply because comments can be deleted. This answer-by-example explicitly depends on the explanation not being in the body of the answer, as stated in the explanation itself; deleting the comment and moving its content into the answer majorly changed the intent of the answer, which is typically frowned on. — Justin Time - Reinstate Monica 1 min ago
 
4:57 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by histrionics
I agree NVIDIA employees are experts on this topic, but they also have a conflict of interest in shoving bugs in their products under the rug. 2 other people voted yes, but the important thing to me is: the NVIDIA employee's vote is the straw that decides whether my question pointing to a problem in NVIDIA software can stay open. That doesn't seem like a very fair arrangement. — histrionics 10 secs ago
 
5:15 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by histrionics
I included the specific, concise command anyone can run to replicate the problem. I detailed the inputs, outputs, and errors. I referenced the source code and the platform. I gave full detail for my problem and how to reproduce it, while the NVIDIA employee and the two others didn't. It feels uncomfortable that with the information literally all there, as clearly and thoroughly as I could put it, you're suspecting they're in the right in their 0-detail accusation. — histrionics 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by histrionics
My question has been reopened by three other users, but it now has a terrible -4 votes. I scrolled through 20 pages questions with similar tags, I didn't see one with such a poor rating as mine. Is my question really that bad? Look at the hundreds of others in much better standing, around the same time and about the same topic. Does SO have no way to reverse or penalize dogpiling? — histrionics 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sybille Peters
I think this is a good idea but pretty much off topic for the proposal in this thread. — Sybille Peters 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by histrionics
The folks who made the extension are looking into this bug. It doesn't really matter now if anyone answers the question here on SO. But when I first asked it, a bunch of other people really wanted to figure it out. That some powerful users can shut it down and, after I post in meta, make it the worst rated question among hundreds in its category, with no way to get it back into positive standing... it just gives me a bad feeling about SO. If someone had that experience with a community I ran I'd want to know and correct it. I know you're not an admin, I just wanted to put it here into writing. — histrionics 1 min ago
 
5:57 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sybille Peters
Question: What happens to the accepted answer status when the OP closes or abandons their account? If that happens is it ever possible to change the accepted answer or not? — Sybille Peters 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ivarni
In more recent news, the image in this answer to that π question did not adapt well to the new dark mode. — ivarni 8 secs ago
 
6:33 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Suragch
@SybillePeters, That has happened many times. It's not possible to change the accepted answer. — Suragch 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Brondahl
@PeterDuniho See comments immediately above this, since May 21st. Would you like to offer a comment on why you think it's appropriate to delete this answer? — Brondahl 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Declined flags do not lead to review suspension. A high number of recent declined flags can lead to flag suspension. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nico Haase
@yivi thanks for clarifying that! Nevertheless, how should that be handled? Flagging stuff that needs a flag IMO should not lead to a ban, should it? — Nico Haase 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Mods will act in egregious cases, where no domain expertise is needed. If a case is not completely clear cut, the mod can opt for prudence and decline the flag. You even recommended the user to post their question in SF, which is a sister site which a lot of overlap with SO. (Not even sure if it should be asked there, or probably better at askubuntu or SU). — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nico Haase
Good point - I haven't thought about the situation that the mod doesn't see that there is an active bounty — Nico Haase 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nico Haase
@yivi I've recommended that in a comment to the post itself — Nico Haase 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
Reasonable question, predictable voting. Just a comment: There may be significant changes that cannot be traced back to discussions in Meta with certainty but might still be inspired by them. Meta is so big with thousands and thousands of feature requests that it's somewhat probable that any possible change has already been discussed in this or a similar form at some point. — Trilarion 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Yes, you recommended server fault. My point exactly. Making the judgement about where that question belongs may not be absolutely black and white. Personally, I believe SF is the wrong recommendation. And there are a lot of questions about iptables here on SO as well... Do I like the question? No. Would I have raised the flag? Neither. — yivi 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nico Haase
As the tag wiki states in uppercase letters: "GENERAL IPTABLES SUPPORT IS OFF-TOPIC", so flagging that question does not look wrong to me. But you're right, I might have been wrong about where it should have been posted instead — Nico Haase 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
What I mean simply is that with flags like this one is asking a mod to make a judgement call. If the call is not 100% clear, the judgement can go either way. I try to raise this "remove bounty" flags only when I think there is no room for doubt in the outcome. And even then, the mod can of course disagree. It happens. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
"reducing the close vote count to 3 instead of 5" It was discussed for many years but the decision to do it was only made after the company decided to make an experiment and then decided after seeing the results and Meta feedback. Not sure how much that should count. Maybe the company would have gotten to the same conclusion at around the same time even without Meta ever existing, or maybe it wouldn't. — Trilarion 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
"Are these few questions worth the hassle?" Yes, if only to know how good or bad the whole re-opening process works. The re-opening is also not a big hassle, compared to the other review queues. — Trilarion 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
@NicoHaase it is best to assume the mod has no context at all. The onus is on you to explain to the mod why you or any other regular user can't do what you ask the mod to do on your behalf. Feel free to join the SOCVR chat room if you want a second opinion or guidance on how best to word your custom flag. — rene 1 min ago
 
7:39 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by timmey
Good point, I didn't think of that. But this contradicts the answer in the duplicate to this question, where the example from Android is given. — timmey 54 secs ago
 
7:51 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by F1Krazy
The bounty on that question expires in four hours. I'd say the simplest option is to just wait, and VTC as soon as the bounty expires. — F1Krazy 1 min ago
 
8:11 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CodeCaster
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
Does this answer your question? Declined mod flag on a bountied questiongnat 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
I agree with @F1Krazy. Under normal circumstances, I'd cancel the bounty and close the question. But for bounties that expire in less than 12-24 hours, I'm inclined to just wait it out, and then come back to close the question. (The only way that mods can cancel a bounty is by refunding the reputation. There's no way we can avoid refunding it.) — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
It came about because certain of us, having read that Meta feedback (and/or having provided it ourselves), hounded certain staff members whom we felt would be receptive to these demands incessantly, until we finally either convinced them or they obligated us to shut us up. I'd say that it is a success story of Meta. About the only argument against it is that the moderators in favor of it probably would have reached that conclusion without a Meta site, but I don't think we would have had the ability to articulate our reasons nearly as well. @Trilarion — Cody Gray ♦ 22 secs ago
 
 
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10:19 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
I would blame how the reopen system works, for these statistics, in that a question can only automatically be voted to be reopened after its first edit. Which happens even if the first edit is a rant about the question being closed.. The community at that point has no choice but to keep it closed. That’s when the system breaks down. — Security Hound 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Haem
The answer wasn't nuked from orbit, it seems the link in the claim only points to the question instead of the specific answer. — Haem 25 secs ago
 
10:45 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by psubsee2003
@CodyGray Bounty is going to get refunded when it gets deleted anyway. — psubsee2003 1 min ago
 
11:23 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
Is this a discussion or a feature request? If it's a discussion, you may want to lead with some input in how it'd work. If it's a feature request, you're going to have to provide some points as to why it's a good idea. — Cerbrus 1 min ago
 
 
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12:33 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
Note that adding @username to a question or answer (what is commonly referred to as a post) never pings anyone. Only in comments does that syntax ping anyone. — Heretic Monkey just now
 
 
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1:45 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by L D
@RobertLongson Thanks for the quick response. Recently I was helping someone through the comments, and we had around 20 comments, I am pretty sure I would have seen that option if it appeared. Maybe I missed it? After how long or how many questions will it appear? — L D 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
There's an automatic offer by the system after a certain number of comments to continue in chat. There's nothing you need to do other than click on the link and then continue in chat — Robert Longson 1 min ago
 
2:01 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S.S. Anne
I didn't flag the comment myself. Presumably, somone else saw that the content from the comment was already in the answer and flagged the comment. Anyway, this is a very sarcastic response. — S.S. Anne 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
I assume it's the same as the auto mod flag 20 comments in 3 daysNick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
It is only triggered if there only two commenters and on the 5th (?) back-and-forth. — rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
I think the amount of commenters is actually relevant. E.g. if only 2 users are back-and-forthing, the message will be shown earlier than >2 users are posting comments. — yivi 1 min ago
 
2:41 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
What you don't want to read in chat: Get a room ... — rene 1 min ago
 
2:59 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by F1Krazy
This is Meta; you need to post this on the main Stack Overflow site, though you would need to explain what the "correct result" you are expecting is, and what you have tried so far. — F1Krazy 1 min ago
 
3:13 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
Got a link to the audit? — Machavity 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nikos Hidalgo
@Machavity link added — Nikos Hidalgo 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Paulie_D
Probably an answer that was posted multiple times across multiple questions thus "spam". — Paulie_D 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
It really doesn't. From the answer on the duplicate: "But Stack Overflow should only be ONE of the options available." under the bullet headed "Start with your support pages". Also, from the linked Android page, "It's also important to point out that we don't plan to change the android-developers group" -- they continue to support Android developers on their site(s), allowing Stack Overflow to be one input among many (in Android's case, for beginning developers). — Heretic Monkey 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
As always, click the link to the right and open the answer in a new page and you'll see it's an audit right away... — Heretic Monkey 1 min ago
 
3:27 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Columbia
Are you banned from asking questions on the main site? — Robert Columbia 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BSMP
It’s a wrong answer but none of the URLs look like spam. BTW, the user has been suspended for almost a year. — BSMP 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
@NikosHidalgo Heretic means if you click the link to open the answer, you would have seen that it was already deleted, indicating that it's an audit — Nick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nikos Hidalgo
@HereticMonkey what does that mean though? Not sure I understand. — Nikos Hidalgo 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nikos Hidalgo
My question still stands though. Why did my "Looks OK" is considered the wrong answer when the original post doesn't look like Spam or offensive? — Nikos Hidalgo 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by medic17
All user provided content is provided automatically as CC by SA as per stackextange (term of service)[stackoverflow.com/legal/terms-of-service#licensing]medic17 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BSMP
* My question still stands though.* I know. Just thought the suspension was noteworthy. Maybe there were links that weren’t visible? — BSMP 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tony Merryfield
One thing I don't understand when a question is marked duplicate, is why this text is needed? "Your post has been associated with similar questions. If these questions don’t resolve your question, ask a new one." - it's already on a new question, surely the correct action would be to start a process to get a question reopened, not post another new one? — Tony Merryfield 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@medic17: No...if you don't have the ability to release the content as that license, it would still retain its original licensing conditions. We've had tech employees request that source code be removed from the site because it contained corporate proprietary secrets. — Makoto 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by medic17
@Makoto I meant code we write to make us of some proprietary code. If you write a proprietary API and give me access I can write code that uses it and post that here then it would be CC — medic17 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
An example a bit more on topic than that would be nice, even if not necessary. — yivi 24 secs ago
 
4:25 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
I guess it's now: Have been active in the last 30 days. — BDL 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
@BDL that's a good guess, thank you. Doesn't make it less of a bug, but plausible explanation of how it happened anyway — gnat 57 secs ago
 
4:57 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pauloco
Is there a way to move a let's say Spanish question in the English Stackoverflow to the Spanish edition of Stackoverflow? — Pauloco 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by xjcl
"please make sure to accept an answer" What do I do if I'm the only answer? — xjcl 1 min ago
 
5:17 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
The majority of questions I see in the reopen queue were pushed there by cosmetic edits that don't actually change the substance of the question at all. I wonder what the stats are for questions getting reopened after having meaningful edits done to them, but of course it'd be hard to filter for that. — John Montgomery 1 min ago
 
5:51 PM
Error while calling API: HTTP 400 fetching URL https://api.stackexchange.com/2.2/comments. Body is: {"error_id":502,"error_message":"Violation of backoff parameter","error_name":"throttle_violation"}
 
6:33 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rayisooo
I think they do it on purpose to prevent people who have question bans or exceeded the amount of question from continuing to ask questions — Rayisooo 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
(FWIW my motivation for proposing this bugfix is only to decrease meta noise and see less complaints about such audits. Personally I am not affected by these in any way - I fail audits once in every 200, maybe 300 reviews, and reason for my failures is always my mistake (insufficient attention) and it has nothing to do with the age of audit posts) — gnat 1 min ago
 
6:45 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@histrionics - A user with enough reputation to review your question decided the question should be closed. The fact they are a NVIDIA employee is not a factor. I suspect the reason your question has received so many downvotes is due to the negative responses to the feedback you have given. I will repeat, any 3 users could have voted to closed your question, the fact the user happens to work at NVIDIA has nothing to do with that fact. Yes; A NVIDIA employee is allowed to vote to close any question. The same user who voted to close, also voted to reopen the question, by the way. — Security Hound 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
I would caution a user against submitting a multiple iterations of the same comment against different answers. The most likely scenario is those comments would be simply flagged. Until the DMCA claim is against Stack Exchange there isn't anything the Stack Overflow community can do. A DMCA claim against a Github repository doesn't have anything to do with Stack Exchange or Stack Overflow. — Security Hound 31 secs ago
 
7:17 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
@TonyMerryfield Yes, of course. This has already been discussed. — user4642212 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Justin Time - Reinstate Monica
Even if so, @S.S.Anne, you directly created the circumstances which led to it by moving the comment's content into the answer, despite the comment explicitly stating that the explanation was intended to exist outside of the answer's main body to provide a visual demonstration of various aspects of low-quality answers, and the other comment on the post (and my subsequent reply) discussing its intent as an example. — Justin Time - Reinstate Monica 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Justin Time - Reinstate Monica
This had a tangible negative effect on the answer's overall quality, judging by the voting discrepancy shown in the timeline: it initially hovered around 0, then dropped to -3 within 24 hours of your edit. — Justin Time - Reinstate Monica just now
 
 
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9:35 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
I just realized that this may not be a regression. You probably only changed the link of “post a new one” in off-topic post notices. The link for “ask a new one” in duplicate post notices still links to /ask, but it’s exactly the same problem there. — user4642212 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ann Zen
Wouldn't it be better put a notification somewhere to let the editors know that someone else is also editing the post, so that the editors won't feel they've invested time on a post for nothing? — Ann Zen 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
That does happen, but if you both submit at the same time, then it might not be apparent. — Makoto 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ann Zen
Can you tell me what the message will say? — Ann Zen 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
 
10:15 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Roger Dahl
Hm, this question was apparently controversial. Insight from down- and close voters would be appreciated. Thank you CodyGray and Makoto. — Roger Dahl 41 secs ago
 
10:27 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
I imagine it'll say the exact same thing that you saw @AnnZen. But I'm not 100% sure when it gets triggered and what the delay is to when your client (browser) sees that. — Makoto 11 secs ago
 
10:43 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MER
Why do we close duplicates. Why is there not instead a mechanism for merging. If a user doesn't find a question because they didn't ask it the same way, and they create a new question, BOTH questions would most effectively be associated with all answers from BOTH questions. In the above approach searching results would be enhanced & people looking for answers would be more likely to find them. Any of the questions might be closer to their wording... — MER 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4642212
@MER How would your “merging” proposal look like for a canonical question with 100 duplicates linked to it? — user4642212 58 secs ago
 
11:05 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rounin
@SybillePeters - I refer you to paragraph 5. I am agreeing that there should be rewards / recognition for duplicate finders but also that something useful and helpful should be done with the contributions that duplicate finders make. By virtue of the latter, the rewards / recognition would be justified all the more. (Personally, I don't find hundreds of thousands of shut down pages particularly helpful or useful when I'm looking for the answer to a question. Neither do I appreciate being sent on multiple wild goose chases.) — Rounin 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rounin
I share your frustrations, @JamesB. Well articulated. — Rounin 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Dang, good point, @psubsee2003... — Cody Gray ♦ 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
@histrionics You've posted more than I can hope to respond to in a comment. That the NVIDIA employee happened to be the last vote is really just coincidence, and not as significant as you're making it. This is emphatically not NVIDIA employees sweeping bugs under the rug. If they wanted to do that, they'd do it on their tech support line, not here. Clearly, they are not interested in doing that. As far as the voting, that's called the Meta effect: discussing questions on Meta tends to attract a higher-than-usual amount of attention and therefore votes. Your accusations here, regarding... — Cody Gray ♦ 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
@Security No, they didn't. Different Robert C. — Cody Gray ♦ 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
...the way that the voting system works, and what appeared to be an attack against the ethics of one of the close-voters, was perceived somewhat negatively by the Meta crowd, thus (unfortunately) resulting in some downvotes against your question. Some downvotes aren't really a big deal, in the scheme of things. — Cody Gray ♦ 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Yup, a very good point. It has now attracted a second round of close votes from some other Python experts. What you say is not only true in this specific case, but a good general lesson about the importance of tagging. If you want certain experts to see your question, then use the tags they follow. If your question isn't really about that thing, then don't tag it as such. — Cody Gray ♦ 49 secs ago
 
11:47 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ann Zen
But I said "to let the editors know that someone else is also editing", as in the other user haven't clicked Save Edits yet. — Ann Zen 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
I don't think the system can detect complex cases. I flagged many suspicious activities based on upvotes done on wrong answers (and I was indeed right). I doubt the system can detect such things. — Temani Afif 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
I have raised a mod-flag about a suspicious pattern recently, but then I started to overanalyse what could it be. If you would like to keep this quiet, I can remove my question. — Dharman 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
It's not any specific flag of yours or anyone else's that I'd prefer to keep quiet. I just don't think discussing what our tools can and can't detect is useful to anyone but those who aim to exploit them. — Cody Gray ♦ 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
I agree, we do not want more people coming up with such ideas. Could you remove the question, please? — Dharman 1 min ago
 

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