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1:40 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
Not everywhere uses thousand separators, for example the Indian numbering system uses the crore and lakh, 30mil is 3,00,00,000. On top of that it would mean more localisation as some use full stops for separators others use commas (30.000.000 vs 30,000,000). I'm not convinced this is worth the effort. (yes I'm aware they're used elsewhere on the site) — Nick 1 min ago
 
 
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3:42 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bohemian
@Mik despite many questions seeming to require site users to be psychic to answer them, they are not in fact psychic. And sorry to pop your balloon here, but no one on the planet is "psychic". Because you profile does not contains any clues as to your ethnicity/race, your perceived discrimination exists in your mind only. — Bohemian ♦ 2 mins ago
 
 
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7:46 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
do you want to change your display name back to serbia99? — Samuel Liew ♦ 47 secs ago
 
8:30 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by usr2564301
^ The same goes for the assumption about race, gender, beliefs and sexual preferences of those people helping you. — usr2564301 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YSC
The desired aspect has been constructed with manual highlighting on outlook, please ignore the line under str (I should have been more careful). — YSC 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
Does this answer your question? What is syntax highlighting and how does it work? Please have a look at the accepted answer there, especially the part about reporting bugs. — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YSC
@Cerbrus Yes it does, thumbsupYSC 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by kemicofa ghost
I don't know why this became active all of a sudden, but now that it was I had the urge to downvote the blog but couldn't. Hmmmmm. — kemicofa ghost 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YSC
I don't have an access to my github account currently, if someone have a few minutes to report the bug, I'd highly appreciate it :) — YSC 24 secs ago
 
8:50 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by vishal
I want to change it to something else. I don't mind having my current display name either for 1 month. But I have made my point clear that my objection is that I should have been made aware of this rule before I changed my display name. — vishal 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
I should be able to change it for you, this one time only. Tell me what you want — Samuel Liew ♦ 1 min ago
 
9:38 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by deceze
Having had a look at your question, there's nothing wrong with its wording. It's simply a somewhat vague problem which isn't reproducible with the information provided. That is all, and that's the only reason it's been deemed off-topic. There's absolutely no hint of your race or anything in there that would make that a criterion. — deceze ♦ 1 min ago
 
10:00 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by vishal
Thanks @SamuelLiew . But I don't have any problem with my current display name. But anyways, I don't know what the procedure is to vote for implementing a feature but It would help many others in the future if this feature gets implemented. — vishal 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
It does not create noise - it creates a lot of noise. Active users already have to deal with enough notifications as it is to the point where they likely just don't respond to most of them at all, let's not give people the power to add even more. Being involved is something you choose to do personally, other people are not involved in that process. So please, stop having the need to try to keep people in the loop. If they want to, they'll look in periodically to see what's happening. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 4386427
To me this question is pretty unclear. The title ask for a mission of Meta (Meta Stack Overflow, I assume) while the body text is mainly addressing the mission of Stack Overflow. So when the question is: "Do active members of Meta have a mission?" - I'm not sure whether the question is about a Meta-SO mission or a SO mission. In my mind those are very different. — 4386427 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
I fail to see the problem, you previously were welcome to perform reviews... and you no longer are, it's a statement of fact, it's not rude or unkind — Nick 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ctx
@Nick You can state facts with different connotations, you can say one thing kindly or with a condescending tone. I felt the message has the latter one. — Ctx 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Flag the comment(s) for moderator attention. Someone pinging you repeatedly with "please help" is just being annoying. That is not an appropriate use of comments. — Cody Gray ♦ 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tokenyet
@CodyGray , Thanks! I got it. — Tokenyet 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
We don't reach these decisions lightly, or without evidence. The message was perfectly kind, although it was not welcoming. That was no accident. You are very much not welcome to use review queues on this site. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ctx
@CodyGray This is a contradictio in adiecto. An unwelcoming message cannot be kind per definitionem. So, how about admitting you didn't want to be kind? That's honest at least. — Ctx 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Absolutely disagreed. We can kindly show you the door. That's what we did. — Cody Gray ♦ 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ctx
@CodyGray Perhaps my definition of "kind" is a bit different from yours. And yes, you can kindly show the door. But that's not what you did. — Ctx 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Moderators are not a ruling class. They our elected janitors. — yivi 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ctx
In history, it has never done something good when the "ruling" people could hide behind anonymity. This is of course different with dissidents, that might fear oppression. — Ctx 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by double-beep
You're lucky the moderator you suspended you didn't get angry - you have 11.3k reviews and you should really know how to review. The message couldn't have been kinder, IMO. — double-beep 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ctx
As are policemen, but this applies perfectly to them. In most countries they are identifiable nowadays to prevent too harsh actions. — Ctx 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ctx
This is correct, but you came up with the first analogy (janitor) — Ctx 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ctx
@double-beep This is a disturbing attitude and hints a certain arbitrariness of actions. What would have been an appropriate action in your eyes? — Ctx 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Stack Overflow is not a country. Moderators are not policemen. Analogies and similes are brittle and prone to breaking if stretched. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Ok, I take that back. My bad. I thought that you would understand it in the context of comparing moderators to "ruling people in history that hid behind anonymity". But obviously I was wrong. Have a good day. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
Just get over it... message is fine. If you take one step back, you will see that this is just a rant because you got manual suspension you cannot dispute, so you are nitpicking over words... if the message was different (the way you would want it to be) I bet you would still find something else to complain about. — Dalija Prasnikar 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ctx
I don't appreciate that you immediately pull out from the conversation with a last snappy comment when you noticed a flaw in your argumentation. — Ctx 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ctx
@DalijaPrasnikar If anything reads like a rant, then please tell me what it is exactly. This is then only due to the fact that I am not a native english speaker. I will edit it then. — Ctx 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ctx
@DalijaPrasnikar No, indeed this is not the case, the ban was imposed several time ago, so I had time to think about it. And if you read my messages and comments carefully, then you should come to the conclusion, that there is nothing bitter in it. It is just what I wrote: When you have to bring bad news, you can do it in a way that is a bit more careful. — Ctx 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Anonymity is irrelevant to the point here. I am not the moderator who issued the ban, yet I completely agree with the decision to do so. I strongly suspect the rest of the moderator team does, as well. As yivi said, we function as a team, not as individuals, so ire directed at a single moderator is entirely misplaced. I do disagree that the phrasing "you won't be able" is any more neutral or matter-of-fact than "no longer welcome". In fact, I prefer the latter. It's less colloquial, and emphasizes that reviewing is a privilege that needs to be maintained. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
@Cody Frankly, I don't have any preference on any verbiage. I imagine these type of ban if rare enough as to maybe not warrant its own canned message. I was only trying to partially accommodate the OP, and maybe provide an alternative where complaints are less likely (although nothing could completely pre-empt all possible interpretations). A message like this no longer serves any educational purpose (since the user won't be reviewing any longer), so it should simply inform them of the situation, and hopefully avoid them making a another fuss. — yivi 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Amit Joshi
@CodyGray: So what was the result of the discussion? Should normal users flag such questions for moderator or not? — Amit Joshi 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ctx
@CodyGray This is an international site and people from many different cultures communicate here. You should take this under account. This is especially important when it comes to discussions about "politeness" and "kindness". I, for my part, found the message problematic. You could have put that in the correct light, but refrained to do that, so you are deliberately unkind. This is ok for me, but I consider it dishonest from you to pretend otherwise. — Ctx 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
But as I said, I'm perfectly fine with the message issued; I just hope I never get it myself. — yivi 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick Cox
I often think "Answering your question doesn't mean that I am volunteering to be your buddy for the remainder of your project" but conveying that tactfully can be hard, and seem unhelpful. — Nick Cox 1 min ago
 
11:06 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@NickCox I've personally stopped trying to explain it. If somebody tries to ask for help with something unrelated, I just don't answer. I've no real obligation to anyway. — VLAZ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick Cox
@VLAZ Indeed, that too. Sometimes if you recognise an identifier as that of someone clingy, it's best to back off, knowing what might ensue. Nevertheless much of Meta, when it's not about the company, is about handling those new to SO who don't get SO at all and how best to use it (which is certainly puzzling to those who think we are a help line). Ignoring them is not ideal either. — Nick Cox 1 min ago
 
11:40 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
This has been reported many, many, many times. You haven't found any of those posts? — Tom 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ZektorH
I think the problem lies when people share links and then revoke the access. In regards to the ethics of asking to share information, the user that is sharing has control over whether or not such information will be shared. From what I've saw, most time people ask for a copy of the spreadsheet is because the question is extremely data-specific and the OP failed to explained what is happening with other means. In these cases, should the question just be flagged as a Low Quality question? — ZektorH 28 secs ago
 
11:56 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
I am afraid that you cannot edit anything... the whole post sounds like a rant. Why? Because you are complaining about wording from ban message that is perfectly fine. "No longer welcome" is commonly used, polite, phrase that perfectly conveys message in this case... you may no longer do (come, use) whatever because what you did previously (on numerous occasions) was not acceptable behavior, and I assume you got temporary suspensions for that. — Dalija Prasnikar 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adrian Mole
This question seems more appropriate for the main SO site, rather than Meta. — Adrian Mole just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dalija Prasnikar
Point is, focusing on friendlier message is exercise in futility, because everyone will have their own idea what friendlier message might be. You were not told "to go to hell" or something plain rude... so from that POV your post is pointless. Also, this is ban message, so from moderators POV you were continuously abusing your review privilege... saying firm "no, you cannot longer do that", is perfectly acceptable. — Dalija Prasnikar 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ctx
@DalijaPrasnikar The problem is not misbehaviour here, but mistakes in the review process. To tell me, that I was "abusing" something here is really inappropriate here, as is your unsubstantiated claim that this was a "rant", which it clearly isn't. — Ctx 1 min ago
 
12:24 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
You are on Meta. This question will not be answered here and you may want to go over the Checklist and How to Ask before you repost on Stack Overflow. — Samuel Liew ♦ just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Geoff Griswald
"A discussion system"... tossed out there as if there has ever been a successful, accepted one of those. — Geoff Griswald 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
Seeing your latest reviews, what option you chose and how much time you took to chose the same option for every case, I would say "misbehaviour" is a suitable word here. Calling that "mistakes" and "a bit too distracted", especially after being banned multiple times, is nothing more than an excuse. — Tom 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ctx
@Tom It is an explanation, I do not need to seek for excuse here. Indeed, it does not bother me too much to no longer perform reviewing tasks; Sure, it was a way to kill some time (i.e. while eating lunch), but what should be the motivation to intentionally perform bad reviews? This is a bit far-fetched, and I think you owe me an apology for that. — Ctx 11 secs ago
 
1:04 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Taryn
 
1:14 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ctx
@Patrice It's up to you what you demand if you are discredited, but why should I not? This was a false accusation and an apology would be a way to set this straight. — Ctx 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Patrice
@Ctx I won't join the conversation much more, notice I had actually deleted my comment. But it seems to be a very convenient way to sidestep the argument of those you don't like, to point to "this is rude" and demand apologies. It doesn't bring the conversation forward, disregards entirely the points other make, and overall, in my opinion, looks disingenuous and like an attempt to bring everything to "I'm offended". So..... meh. I decided to not join in the end by deleting my comment. Should've been faster at that, or refrained from posting in the first place. Good luck — Patrice 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ctx
@Patrice You seem to have ignored my edit above; I accept that the consense is, that the message was not meant unkind or unfriendly, so no, I do not disregard the points that others make. But you have to let me strongly object when I am accused of intentional misbehaviour. — Ctx 14 secs ago
 
1:38 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@NickCox I agree, we should be helping newcomers. On the other hand...it's sometimes hard. I'd rather not respond than say something that might be perceived as unwelcoming. — VLAZ 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
The TL;DR answer is you get it closed again. That person cannot reopen the question again if that happens — Machavity 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
Okay, that's one extra library everyone needs to load for one additional language... That doesn't scale very well... — Cerbrus 7 secs ago
 
2:10 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
There is no review for votings, except on suspicious cases like serial votings or votings rings and then only done by the system or a moderator. — Tom 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
You got a grand total of one downvote on that answer so far, and at least two comments giving you feedback. I don't understand what else would you want. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mannoj
@Tom I dont think it is the case. I have faced down-vote multiple time — Mannoj 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mannoj
@yivi if I do not understand the question then down-voter should explain it as per his understanding. — Mannoj 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mannoj
@yivi I was happy about that but after improving my answer no one reverted after mentioning them on comment — Mannoj 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Commenting on votes is not only not required, but actively discouraged. But anyway, you got at least two users commenting on perceived problems with the answer. So you already have feedback on top of the vote. Not sure what else could be done here. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
The answer is simply wrong. I'll comment on the answer in a second to show you why. — BDL just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Even if either of them were the ones casting the original votes, they are in no way mandated to reverse their vote just because you believe they should. (And obviously, it's quite likely neither of the commenters were the ones voting in the first place) — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
The votes you received aren't out of the norm, so there isn't anything to review for a mod. — Tom 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mannoj
@BDL question was about correct practices to use ternary operator I believe — Mannoj 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mannoj
@yivi atleast they should revert inform whether Answer understandable enough after improvement — Mannoj 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
@Mannoj: No. The question was about how to fix a specific instance of the ternary operator. If you call get() on the temporary shared_ptr, your object is destroyed before it can be used at all. — BDL 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
So they need to remain available and continue reviewing the answer while the author keeps editing (or not), to see if it the author finally gets it right? And every time one cast an upvote, one should go back to the post every five minutes to see if it wasn't edited, maybe it doesn't deserve an upvote anymore... — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mannoj
@yivi I am not expecting that. If I need their help then I will mention them in comment. They should not wait for editing in down/up-vote — Mannoj 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
@Mannoj: I posted a link to online example on that question. — BDL 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mannoj
@BDL get() return the raw pointer from the shared_ptr; I have updated it in application many places. What is this temporary shared_ptr? Do you have such link where I can understand this? — Mannoj 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mannoj
@BDL I got the problem — Mannoj 12 secs ago
 
2:54 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rob
Fine, don’t refund bounties. That solves the gaming/vampires/spite issues. Fine. But it is a deeply flawed solution that auto-awards bounties to answers that we thought we so bad that we felt compelled to offer a bounty in the first place. — Rob 1 min ago
 
3:10 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
The first is closed as it is both too broad (asking for two different languages) and because it was already covered by a meta.SE post asking for the same. The second post you found shows there has been a feature request for this on Meta.SE for quite some time now. New syntax highlighters requires the company to update the highlight.js version, something that's only rarely done. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by makozaki
Could you point to feature request you mentioned? I'd gladly upvote it if it is only way to get this feature on stack. — makozaki 28 secs ago
 
3:22 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by txemsukr
Same happened to me, a bit sad that nothing notified you about the ban. I think the UX about this should be redesign. If I hadn't opened the review in a new window I would have missed the fact that I've been banned and I would continue reviewing wrongly. — txemsukr 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
well stop complaining about the UI here because I can't do anything about it!Samuel Liew ♦ 1 min ago
 
4:24 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jon Schneider
This answer is interesting, in that it demonstrates that the following two situations are simultaneously possible, despite seeming to be contradictory: (1) A StackOverflow user honestly feels discriminated against on the basis of race; (2) Empirically, absolutely no discrimination on the basis of race on the part of voters / commenters / answerers / moderators actually occurred. — Jon Schneider 35 secs ago
 
4:44 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by RobertS supports Monica Cellio
@CindyMeister Sorry for the delay. Quite often. Imagine the following case: somebody is posting a huge comment. To hint at something he/she want to do the post of the comment without any delay even if he/she wants to enlarge the comment. So, the first part of the comment is already posted but the comment is not fulfilled. If I now see this comment and want to reply for clarification I do not have any notification if the comment was edited in the meantime. — RobertS supports Monica Cellio 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by stuartd
As the close text says - "[this question is] seeking recommendations for books, software libraries, or other off-site resources. This question is likely to lead to opinion-based answers."stuartd 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick Cox
The implication that some people expect too much invites assent. But in deleting you deprive others thereby of a comment that might be interesting or useful. Here on SO comments are reckoned trivial any way but elsewhere on SE (my primary affiliation is Cross Validated) comments can even be the best part of a thread. — Nick Cox 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
Can you please clarify if you disagree with closure or you disagree with picking somewhat not ideal closure reason? It looks like straight recommendation request and should have been closed as such (make sure to review stackoverflow.com/help/on-topic: "to recommend or find a book, tool, software library, tutorial or other off-site resource are off-topic for Stack Overflow")... — Alexei Levenkov 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Broots Waymb
This will have been closed regardless. It's definitely not opinion based, but it is asking for a recommendation (which does mention opinion-based answers in the text as mentioned in another comment). Perhaps you mixed the 2 reason up? — Broots Waymb 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Magnetron
There is a specific SE site for software recommendations, although you should still go through their help center to know how to ask a proper questions there. — Magnetron 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheBatman
SO needs an option to turn off notifications for posts. Facebook has it, theres no excuse for SO not having it. — TheBatman 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Carcigenicate
@NickCox If I felt at all confident that the question would be at all helpful to future users, then yes, that would be a valid concern. In my experience though, many low-effort, help-vampire questions end up just getting deleted anyways, and the comments along with them. — Carcigenicate 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@vishal you FR is perfectly fine (clearly written and includes good reasoning why feature would be useful). So that's all you can really do - people will vote on the proposal (so far it is +18/-1)… The only problem with FRs we have is there is not much expectations that the company actually notices such requests (nor give guidance on how to actually make FRs anymore) - maybe this one get lucky and it is possibly text-only change. — Alexei Levenkov 33 secs ago
 
5:12 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@Scratte No, it is not what I tried to say. Indeed it is clear that you found source of the material along with copyright message. What we seem to disagree is whether the "this code has copyright" message clearly requests a particular action from a diamond mod - you believe "yes" and I see "no" - I don't see any action requested from a moderator. We really need feedback from some of the diamond mods here to clarify what they see as a main problem with these flags... but this particular question did not seem to get attention from any of them. — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Patrice
You likely meant this for the main site (notice the "meta" in your url?). Meta is to discuss the main site. Its community, its rules, its bugs, etc :). — Patrice 1 min ago
 
6:00 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
If previous FR on this topic is any indication this proposal will gain a lot of support and not much actual impact :( . Note that linked post has suggestion that does not seem to work anymore so you feel to close as duplicate I recommend using this new FR as target. — Alexei Levenkov 14 secs ago
 
6:12 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rob
Fine, don’t refund bounties. That solves the gaming/vampires/spite issues. Fine. But it is a deeply flawed solution that auto-awards bounties to answers that we thought were so bad that we felt compelled to offer a bounty in the first place. — Rob 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Travis J
@Ben - Quality and welcoming are not mutually exclusive. — Travis J 51 secs ago
 
6:32 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexander
Just use #212121 as the background and #c0c0c0 as the text color. It's the perfect contrarst that won't burn your eyes and won't appear horribly on cheap monitors. How I long for SO to implement this. — Alexander 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
Yes, this particular situation is stupid. But in my experience they come up rarely enough that as long as you're passing most of the other audits you shouldn't be in any danger of a review ban, so don't let it deter you from reviewing. — John Montgomery 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by usr2564301
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
This is actually a canned message. Although it isn't provided by the site itself, it's in a userscript that is fairly widely used among the moderators, and it's verbiage that we've been using for a long time (i.e., the canned message in the userscript was based on a template in use long before the userscript). — Cody Gray ♦ 23 secs ago
 
7:10 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick Cox
I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it is not obviously about the operation of Stack Overflow. We aren't responsible for the details of how employers interact with job seekers. — Nick Cox 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Devender
@NickCox SO is showing this job posting. It's SO's responsibility. I am not going to mail Thoughtworks about it. — Devender 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by animuson
@NickCox This is a form directly on our site that we are responsible for maintaining. It is entirely relevant for it to be posted here. — animuson ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Benjamin Hodgson
Employers can configure custom job application fields. It seems like TW's German recruiters might have accidentally configured the custom fields for the Indian jobs. I'll see if we can get in touch with them. — Benjamin Hodgson ♦ 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick Cox
Vote to close retracted. Thanks for explanations. — Nick Cox 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
@Nick Not if it were a Stack Overflow Jobs UI bug... — Cody Gray ♦ 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick Cox
A bug that inserts German city names rather than others would be a problem. — Nick Cox 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by eventhorizon
So first: Thank you for your thoughts. What I do not understand are the downvotes. However. Today there was an edit that added content to my question asked. What about the down/upvotes after that edit? Do I get the upvotes while the editor gets the downvotes? I do not want to be judged / up-downvoted based on “foreign“ content... — eventhorizon 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ben
@TravisJ You already said that. I already said I disagree. — Ben 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
Does this answer your question? How do I deal with non-English content?BDL 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
Questions with multiple answers can't be deleted, I think. — John Montgomery 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Patrice
Why can't you delete (isn't the message explaining a little bit what's blocking you?)? My understanding is you should. Cause while you have answers, none of them have a positive score or are accepted.... or am I misremembering what the criteria is? — Patrice 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mplungjan
@Patrice “question cannot be deleted / people spent time answering” — mplungjan 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Wai Ha Lee
@JohnMontgomery - trueWai Ha Lee 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
Questions on SO are required to be in English, so it's automatically Unsalvageable. Choose either "Needs details or clarity," or Off-Topic > custom reason. — John Montgomery 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Is it worth closing? That could be an appropriate path for deletion. Otherwise, you can simply request for disassociation. — yivi 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Patrice
@Mplungjan then it's the multiple answers that tripped me. Seems to be the system WAI :/ — Patrice 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
And of course, if you aren't confident about reviewing a particular question, it's never wrong to hit Skip. — John Montgomery 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Patrice
@Eventhorizon and that is why, as the OP, you always have ultimate say over what goes in your post. You always can rollback. But no, you get both types of votes that come in, no matter what the edit. You do get a notification and can remove the edit if you don't agree — Patrice 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mplungjan
@yivi what does that mean? — mplungjan just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
If it's worth closing? — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Travis J
@Ben - You seemed to have ignored the fact that the data contradicts your original assertion. No new points were raised in your response, so I simply repeated myself. Quality and welcoming are not mutually exclusive. — Travis J 1 min ago
 
8:14 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mplungjan
@yivi request disassociate — mplungjan 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
I don’t see why this needs to be deleted. There was obviously some effort put into the answers, and even if you don’t find them useful, that doesn’t prove no one else ever will. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jean-François Fabre
if it gets closed, it will get roombaed. Vote to close yourself, so it goes in the close queue. — Jean-François Fabre ♦ 2 mins ago
 
8:34 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mplungjan
@CodyGray it irritates me to get voted down in a question that does not have working answers! — mplungjan 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 the unsafe
For what it's worth, there is a workaround to having your display name changed. This is one of the so few cases where remedying it instead of preventing it isn't so bad. — E_net4 the unsafe 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
@Makoto Wow, TIL… Just goes to show that what I always say is true. Nobody knows or cares what your bag-o’-flesh identity is here. We only care about the content you post. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 1201ProgramAlarm
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheBatman
@1201ProgramAlarm Ah, "we're too lazy to implement this." Classic response from the so-called maintainers of this site. — TheBatman 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ivan_pozdeev
Does this answer your question? How does Meta Stack Overflow work?ivan_pozdeev 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jean-François Fabre
downvote the answers (if they are not useful), vote to close. Already 1 close vote. It'll be closed in no time with negative scoring answers => roomba. — Jean-François Fabre ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mplungjan
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I would not want to punish the ppl who did try to answer. Their answers are not wrong, just not complete — mplungjan just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cindy Meister
I apologize for not following up on this with you - I can't remember having seen the second comment. But even so, it's not clear what you mean by "it revealed errors", nor what the short-comings of the suggested approach are. It's not that the question is not interesting - I imagine it's getting downvoted because it's intersting, people want an answer, and there has been no follow-up. — Cindy Meister 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Davy M
Only use custom reasons if you're voting to close (requires 3k rep). For flags, only use the "Needs details or clarity" reason because a custom flag reason is for moderator attention, which isn't necessary here. — Davy M 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
As @JohnMontgomery said "skip" is never wrong, but for non-English content there should be no need to use it - always vote to close. I bet in many cases it would be audit as such questions don't stay opened for long. — Alexei Levenkov 24 secs ago
 
10:14 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
@ivan_pozdeev I don't see how that's a duplicate - the answers there are all focused on how Meta works, nothing about the goals of Meta's community. — John Montgomery 24 secs ago
 
10:28 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Close-vote flaggers can choose from a generic "off-topic" close reason, @Davy, and that would be perfectly fine for non-English questions. Once you gain close-vote privileges, that generic "off-topic" close reason is replaced with a textbox where you can type an explanation as to why the question is off-topic. — Cody Gray ♦ 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by greatwolf
@Cerbrus Why would they need to load it if it's not used in a particular question? This is no different than just importing jquery or angular js. You can use the same argument against those libraries. — greatwolf 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
You could dynamically add the library to pages when a new answer pops up that requires it, but that'd be even more of a hassle... jQuery is actually used by SE, and people usually have that cached any way. — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ben
@TravisJ You have been heard. I disagree. If you feel I have made no new points, and have no new points yourself, then there is no need to respond. — Ben 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by greatwolf
So if a question that say has nothing to do with Lua, let say it's about Python or Node.js, does the viewer of that page have to load Fengari? I'm thinking no since there's no <script> tag in there to pull that in. Assuming that's true, then why is this not scalable? You're not loading what isn't used. — greatwolf 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by greatwolf
Why would it need to check for some library that isn't even mentioned at all? How would it even know about it to check it? That doesn't make any sense. — greatwolf 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
Because that'll be dozens of checks for dozens of different libraries that should or shouldn't be loaded, on each page load. — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
You're suggesting SE builds in support for a certain library, and you're suggesting not loading said library if it's not needed. How does the server know it's not needed? By checking if an answer or the question requires it. Multiply that by the amount of languages you're supporting those libraries for... If it were as simple as just loading the library in a snippet, people would've been doing it already. SE explicitly needs to build it into the snippets. — Cerbrus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by greatwolf
No, I'm not suggesting SE build in support for that. I'm saying if a user wants to have runnable Lua code in snippets, they can just pull that in using <script> tags. No involvement from SE support need beyond what's currently available. — greatwolf 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
This is a feature request for SE-side support... — Cerbrus 1 min ago
 
11:02 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Travis J
@Ben - I wish you had taken that advice when you made your comment simply repeating your original assertion. — Travis J 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
On the “anonymity” of the message: exactly which moderator pulled the trigger is recorded, if a moderator truly misused the tool, then employees and the rest of the moderator team would know who’d done this. We just don’t show this to the recipient. Why? It used to be different, at least for mod messages. But when some lowlife tried to get a moderator fired from their day-job when said lowlife was suspended on SO, that was changed. We don’t need someone with an axe to grind take things way out of proportion and make a team action, personal. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
The missing reproducible/verifiable example is under the off-topic section when closing so this is logical. If we have to change something, we should do it for the closure popup first. — Temani Afif 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
The per-site close reasons all go under "off-topic" regardless of whether that actually makes sense. Given how they've ignored a lot of community feedback to other recent changes to the close dialog and messages, I wouldn't count on this getting changed any time soon. — John Montgomery 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
See meta.stackexchange.com/questions/283725/… over on the Uber Meta for the discussion on that change. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Leben ist kein Ponyhof. — Cody Gray ♦ 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by einpoklum
@TemaniAfif: While I'm sure I've seen that myself, my mind keeps forgetting that fact because it makes no sense. That, and the selection of alternative sites on the network which magically is never the site I want to suggest :-P — einpoklum 1 min ago
 
11:44 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Memor-X
@eventhorizon generally edits should be improving the question and those who can edit without approval generally should know that. if someone is making consistent attempts to harm a post then you should bring it up to the mods. otherwise an edit will "bump" the question up the activity list and it gets more eyes looking at that and they can vote however they want, ideally based off if they think the post is useful, clear in what is being said and/or has shown research effort — Memor-X 1 min ago
 

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