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1:38 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S.S. Anne
Don't go looking for Windows updates. Wait for the notifications :) Better yet, don't use Windows. — S.S. Anne 1 min ago
 
2:30 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by pppery
 
 
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4:04 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kaiido
 
4:22 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
I don't think the switches run Windows, @S.S.Anne. — Cody Gray ♦ 19 secs ago
 
 
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5:32 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Roddy of the Frozen Peas
I personally find more annoying the rounded ends that show in the textbox scrollbar in my particular browser (Brave). — Roddy of the Frozen Peas 38 secs ago
 
 
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7:00 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BSMP
we've been advised that this isn't a justification for closing the questions 8 up votes and 3 down votes isn't a very strong consensus, especially when there are two comments disagreeing that have a good score. — BSMP 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
That's an interesting idea, I'd be interested in trying it too. I wonder how well it would work. It'll probably result in more people posting code as text, but it might also result in a few trying to get around the restriction by posting segments of broken half-URLs. But tolerating those would probably be better than having so many code-as-image questions we get nowadays — CertainPerformance 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
I absolutely close such questions. Images of code don’t count as an MRE such if it’s a debugging question then it’s going to be closed until such time we have code. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
My main issue with this suggestion is that sometimes images are better than text. For example, a display issue or something that cannot be replicated by a snippet/code. So, while sometimes images are abused, they can serve a purpose. — VLAZ 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
I don’t see this more often than posts where images are appropriate however. I don’t see a need to take that option away. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
@BSMP This link has lot more attention. Answer saying "VTC questions with images of code" has +60/-2. — CertainPerformance 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
Note that the answer there says that “it depends” and says they add the code from the image. They don’t leave open questions where they can’t do that. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Barmar
@MartijnPieters He says he does that whenthe code is short. — Barmar 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Barmar
I've edited the question to remove the link to the other question, since I misunderstood the concensus. Now I'm just saying that I don't like to close these, I'd just like to make it harder to create them. — Barmar 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Barmar
@VLAZ As I said in the question, there are times when images are appropriate, but I think it's rare that they're better, they should be in addition. — Barmar 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
You didn't try to be helpful. You posted something as an answer that did not answer the question, so it was deleted, as is standard site policy. This site is not like a traditional web forum. We are very strict about what is allowed to be posted as an answer: it must attempt to answer the question that was asked. Mere commentary is not allowed in answers. This is designed to keep down noise. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Barmar
Isn't that why I suggested they be allowed if there's also code? — Barmar just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@Barmar I do agree but...I don't see a way to enforce this with a blanket ban on images. New users will be posting bad questions no matter what measures we take. Since images can be useful in diagnosing an issue, I'd argue in favour of not banning them. With that said, I do recognise that images of code (or otherwise text) are a problem. I'd be in favour of measures to reduce the times these are posted. I'd just rather have something that doesn't somewhat unfairly hinder other questions. — VLAZ 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
There are Question types where code is not required, but an image of a problem becomes very helpful. Examples of those can be seen in the algorithm tag. Enforcing code in those doesn't make sense. — Scratte 41 secs ago
 
8:06 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hans Passant
All three users could see the deleted answer you posted. Be sure to include as much as you know about this problem in the question. — Hans Passant 1 min ago
 
8:30 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
The answer was posted by a different user, @Hans. — yivi 1 min ago
 
9:00 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
The first is a dupe for this one. And considering the answer there, the discussion about the latter is less interesting. It just seems like a wrong review. — yivi 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Do you want to discuss if it's OK inlining code from linked pastebin URLs, or the specific review decision of one user? — yivi 1 min ago
 
9:14 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by einpoklum
Compiler bugs causing valid code not to compile or incorrect behavior of compiled code is not like a bug in Solitaire which messes up the suit colors. The former has everything to do with developing software, and the latter - only if you somehow work with code related to Solitaire. So they're not the same kind of question and this question is not a dupe! — einpoklum 55 secs ago
 
9:52 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by machine_1
I do not second prohibition of posting images by low rep users. I would rather suggest to add a banner on the 'ask question' page advising the user not to post code as images of text. — machine_1 41 secs ago
 
10:42 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Uhh...the question doesn't ask a question. How exactly do you think it is answerable in its current state? Yes, you made the example CSV file significantly more readable, which is good, but it didn't salvage the question, which means that more was required than simply editing. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
"Requires editing" is for questions that shouldn't be closed but could use some polishing by third parties. If the question can only be salvaged by the post author, "requires editing" is the wrong choice. Which is what the review suspension message is telling you. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lukas Thaler
I don't disagree there's much left to be desired. With the input and output provided, though, any willing python/pandas expert can infer the question, since it is a pretty straight forward merge. It seems I really was wrong on my entry bar for the "requires editing" option — Lukas Thaler 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
If the question still needs to be closed, even after your edit has been submitted, then "Requires Editing" is the wrong choice in Triage. — Cody Gray ♦ 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mahozad
I know this is a tiny feature request; but why the downvote? — Mahozad 24 secs ago
 
11:30 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by peterh - Reinstate Monica
For example, if there is some like a "solitaire API", and you have a programming problem about it (including api/compiler bugs), that is ontopic. "Why my solitaire crashes" is not. But, the problem in your question is ontopic in all the cases. — peterh - Reinstate Monica 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
You are aware there is post-ban mechanism, where if a user's contributions are badly received they are in danger of being either question or answer banned, right? — yivi 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan
@yivi I don't know anything about it so I guess I'm looking for specifics on whether badly received contributions include those that are flagged, downvoted, or both? — Dan 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
You can get some information here, which is the canonical for users that find themselves post banned. — yivi 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
I am afraid that the algorithm is secret. But I think score and status (for questions, closed/open; for answers deleted as NAA) are the most important parameters. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Mind you, in my experience it doesn't appear to put users above certain reputation threshold (1k or 2k?) in danger. This is just my observation, so I could be wrong. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan
@yivi Thanks for the info! — Dan 1 min ago
 
12:08 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by machine_1
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
I believe a down vote is a strong signal to the algorithm and that is in effect immediately. If you have to wait for a low quality flag to be processed it might take a while with a slight possibility reviewers find that answer awesome. So if anything, down vote first, then check the remaining options you have (flag, delete) and if the answer is on a low quality question, (close/down) vote the question as well. — rene 52 secs ago
 
1:00 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DavidPostill
Why are you worrying about it when it has been reopened? — DavidPostill 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by usr2564301
I noticed a similar pattern. 1. Read the highest upvoted comment under the question itself. 2. Post as answer. 3. Profit. They do not realize such a comment alone does not answer the question. There is no appropriate flag, it's just another Bad Answer. — usr2564301 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cindy Meister
The question is no longer closed. — Cindy Meister 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by usr2564301
"without VTC": adding insult to injury, getting answers. My usual slightly threatening comment is "we cannot help you otherwise" – but I don't think I've ever seen an OP replacing image with code after they already got an answer. I mean, why bother then? — usr2564301 1 min ago
 
 
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2:12 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
That's just a merge? Then how do you know how to merge those positions and organizations? What are the rules there? — Tom 13 secs ago
 
2:38 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jonrsharpe
[ Boson ] New comment posted by usr2564301
I see no recent bad edits to your posts, they all got markedly improved. For example, "THX in advance!!!", that should not be there. — usr2564301 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan is Fiddling by Firelight
@DavidPostill it was closed at the time this question was asked. — Dan is Fiddling by Firelight 2 mins ago
 
3:38 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by usr2564301
It is a violation of the base principle that a question should be self-contained. — usr2564301 1 min ago
 
3:54 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
It's not about ethics. It's about creating posts that depend on brittle external links to be useful. A question that depends on an external link to be answerable should be closed until that's not longer the case. — yivi just now
 
4:30 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Has there been an meet-up of disgruntled post-owners or so? An other recent example: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/394293/…rene 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
@usr2564 So, what can be done? None of the questions asked as such is closed because high rep members are interested in answering the question rather than adding value to the question. What can be done to avoid such a trend/culture? — TheMaster 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
But sharing something that shows their own email address isn't problematic. Even if they aren't aware that they're doing so? I'm not talking about legal ground. I'm talking in a ethical sense. Is it ethical to ask a user to share something knowing full well that such user isn't aware that he would also be sharing his email? — TheMaster 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by manassehkatz-Moving 2 Codidact
I have found that a bigger problem than PII (email address - not really a big deal, IMHO), is that way too many Google Doc users simply do not understand how to share properly. They commonly do one of: * Share read/write when they clearly want it to be read-only * Share requiring specific email address to connect when they want it to be public/open * Share public/open when they want to share only to specific people (not the case for SE/SO, but I see it all the time elsewhere) — manassehkatz-Moving 2 Codidact 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cindy Meister
@usr2564301 That, and those who take the time to typ the code from the image. — Cindy Meister 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cindy Meister
What isn't stated explicitly in the "duplicate" is that the site is a Q&A for everyone, not a help desk to answer questions which will then be thrown away. So the quality of grammar, spelling and formatting matter in order to make the content accessiblee and understandable to others reading contributions here. That's the "why". On the other hand, there are those who may make injudicious or unnecessary edits in the search for reputation. Until a member reaches 2k rep, they will get points for "accepted* edit suggestions - all their suggestions are reviewed... — Cindy Meister 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cindy Meister
...and (theoretically) rejected if they are trivial or harmful. If you notice a particular person who repeatedly makes trivial or even incorrect edits to your contributions you can *flag" the post with a custom reason to bring this to the moderators' attention. But do please be sure the suggestions of this person are (repeatedly) harmful to the meaing/quality of contributions. — Cindy Meister 28 secs ago
 
 
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6:18 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by [Code wizard ](meta.stackoverflow.com/users/12777391/code-wizard)
Alexie, ya i usually prefer downvotes to these kind of lame edits because instead of giving solution people are doing bullshits — Code wizard 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by [Code wizard ](meta.stackoverflow.com/users/12777391/code-wizard)
@user464221 i think that this forum is basically helping us with the programming stuff and we can reach out if we have problems related to coding. Not for being told to gorrect my grammer because everyone's point of view is different — Code wizard 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by [Code wizard ](meta.stackoverflow.com/users/12777391/code-wizard)
@Cindy it happened with me 2 to 3 times whenever i posted questions I got certain lame edits suggestions — Code wizard 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
@Codewizard we're not a forum: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/92107/…rene 1 min ago
 
6:46 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by kaya3
I guess the edit was rejected because your edit comment didn't make clear that you were adding the OP's own code from their own link. In the review queue what it looks like is that you added code to someone's question that wasn't there before, and your comment which just says "added the code" gives no information about why this code should be included in the question. — kaya3 8 secs ago
 
7:32 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
but the triage completion doesn't count as task when question enters the close queue (neither do flags/votes cast from this review), do I understand that right? If yes then triage essentially de-prioritises it compared to more recent votes / flags / reviews on other questions outside of triage — gnat 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cindy Meister
@Codewizard "this forum is basically helping us with the programming" Actually... No. 1) As rene points out, this is not a forum because 2) SO is a Q&A resource for all who write code. It's primary purpose is not to help the person who asks a question, but all who may have a similar problem and read the information. That's why spelling, grammar and formatting are important. It's not about you, it's about all of us... — Cindy Meister 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BSMP
@kaya3 It’s not my edit, I came across it while looking at reviews. I guess the edit summary is likely the issue though the reviewer should have noticed the codepen link in the question. — BSMP just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by kaya3
Oh, my mistake; I didn't notice that the edit was proposed by a different user. — kaya3 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shog9
Remember, @gnat: review is an abstraction layer over the rest of the system. A question may appear in multiple queues, but is a unique task in each queue; a task result - an action taken in review - may correspond to a flag or a vote, but every flag or vote is not a review result. As a result, a question entering the Close queue after being held up in Triage is as fresh to that queue as one entering immediately upon receiving a vote, or indeed one of advanced age whose previous votes have all long ago aged away... They sort the same; their priority starts and drifts per this session in queue. — Shog9 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
I think I understand now, thanks — gnat 1 min ago
 
8:22 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adrian Mole
I'm really a complete layman when it comes to GoogleSheets and the like, but would it be possible (or, at least, feasible) to have an SE-owned site where such spreadsheets could be copied to (along the lines of the imgur site for images). This would go a long way to resolve the issue raised by @yivi, but don't know if it could be used to 'clean up' sensitive info. — Adrian Mole 1 min ago
 
9:32 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BSMP
@kaya3 It's actually not clear in the question itself, I'll edit to clarify. — BSMP 2 mins ago
 
10:00 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by guntbert
I cannot suggest an edit - I think you 1st sentence should read " ... upvoting a comment ...: — guntbert 1 min ago
 
10:58 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
You are 100% sure it was not your question that was reason for how it was moderated? Most of the time we can clarify which improvements are possible for a post and/or provide you with extra guidance, when asked on Meta. Feel free to give that a try as well. — rene 32 secs ago
 
11:44 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Memor-X
can you provide any relevant examples. i can not find any "streamlining spaces" that you are referring to in some of the most recent questions (though i haven't looked at all) — Memor-X 34 secs ago
 
11:54 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
I'm black (as in, African-American) too (ironically my Medium profile is the only picture I keep of myself on the internet these days). Your question being closed has nothing to do with your race, ethnicity, color, creed or beliefs. It's the simple fact that your question didn't match up to the standards of the site. — Makoto 1 min ago
 

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