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12:02 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by hek2mgl
Do you expect Google from rewarding you with 1 cent when you ask a question? I don't know why think that this is overdue. This whole reputation is system is probably overdue to drop. It just triggers gambling addiction, nothing else. A site which would just take just a little care on their customers (e.g: be nice), would probably not try to trigger gambling addiction. Probably it would just make sure that people can come together to help each other. — hek2mgl 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makyen
Great! Thanks for fixing it. It sounds like, for the future, it's more effective to report on MSE. I'm happy to do so. Is that the better choice? — Makyen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kaiido
"And maybe people even downvote less" I can only talk for myself, but since yesterday I feel I take less attention of when the question has been posted and by whom before I downvote, exactly because my downvote has less power. — Kaiido 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
Dear @PrefijoSustantivo I'm gald you are good. How are you dogs? What about fishes? I hope sun rises well in your land. As for matter you just brought up you may have tried to search for existing posts and gently provide rebukes to each point raised before. It's not raining here today. Weather is good. I wish you well. Hope this helps you to clarify the intricate problem you have at hand. Again welcome and enjoy. :) — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
If you want to thank someone for answering, there's already a mechanism for that: upvoting. — John Montgomery 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by m0sa
Yeah, probably, the API is a network-wide thing, and the api tag there has more activity. — m0sa ♦ 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Don't Panic
Cool! I didn't know that /reputation page existed. — Don't Panic 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Troyen
There was a study on one of the blogs or meta somewhere years ago discussing the psychological impact of a downvote. Even on answers, where a downvote is just a fraction of an upvote, many people take downvotes personally (see all the "why did you downvote?" comments). So while some people might not care about the quality of the questions they write, I don't think that's true of all people. — Troyen just now
 
1:22 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makyen
Then I will report issues with the API there. Thanks. :-) — Makyen 1 min ago
 
1:58 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheWanderer
Go to the website, click the menu icon on the right, click "chat." It's not exactly advertised, but it's not hidden. — TheWanderer 7 secs ago
 
2:38 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Chuck Adams
Two drive-by downvotes so far. I guess the "discussion" tag ... — Chuck Adams 1 min ago
 
2:48 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Chuck Adams
Can the SO software at LEAST support some smart filtering of negative-voted questions then? — Chuck Adams 11 secs ago
 
3:16 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
Users register every day, so to answer that question: probably yes. But what's confusing about having more rep than necessary to reach 1% and therefore... being higher than 1%? It's not clear what you're asking. — TylerH 1 min ago
 
3:38 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andy Gaskell
Before the update I was top 2%. After the update, top 1%. I only gained 15 points and even without the update my new point amount wasn't enough to be in the top 1%. What is unclear? — Andy Gaskell 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user3226167
The effect of gamification should be measured by how many users actually gained 10k/50k/100k rep from posting questions (vs posting answers). — user3226167 1 min ago
 
4:38 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by someone
I feel like Stack Exchange is trying to divert our attention from Monica-related issues by ruining everything else at this point. — someone 1 min ago
 
4:58 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mike M.
Yeah, I noticed mine went from top 0.8? to 0.79, and I didn't get anything from the recalc. Doesn't really make sense to me, but I don't really care enough to question it. — Mike M. 1 min ago
 
5:34 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Amit Joshi
Thanks @CodyGray. — Amit Joshi 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
"* users with less than 200 reputation are not tracked in the leagues" ... — Alexei Levenkov 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andy Gaskell
@AlexeiLevenkov that explanation makes sense. Thank you. — Andy Gaskell 1 min ago
 
6:02 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cindy Meister
A slightly different angle to consider than voiced in comments here: The Q&A content is meant for future users, as well, not just the questioner and others who provide answers. Someone coming across the Q&A later does not need and is not interested in any content other than what fully describes the question and answers. Thus, extraneous content is removed that is not relevant to the topic. Also because it unnecessarily takes up space on the servers :-) — Cindy Meister 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette Colomb
The SEO results changed when Google deemed SO to be a forum. — Yvette Colomb 1 min ago
 
6:30 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette Colomb
Unfortunately, a less-than-ethical member of the larger Stack Exchange moderator community leaked this private communication to the public, and did so in a rather sensationalist way. I don't know what this is referring to or if it is relevant to the question. — Yvette Colomb 43 secs ago
 
6:58 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
I take your larger point, of course, but to be entirely fair, the [discussion] tag on Meta is really just a general catch-all tag, intended to be used for everything that is not either a feature request or support ticket. It reflects the fact that we're abusing a Q&A platform for something that isn't really Q&A. The proper solution to this is probably to make [announcement] into a first-class tag, but it isn't. — Cody Gray ♦ 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
If you don't know what it's referring to, @Yvette, then feel free to ignore it. Unfortunately, there are people who do know what it is referring to, and the message is intended for them. (You could become one of these people with a few magic Google keywords, but...don't?) I made a very intentional decision to confront that issue head-on as part of the announcement, which I believe was a good choice, considering I have only seen one comment referring to it, which was promptly deleted. Everyone is doing a fantastic job of staying constructive and on-topic, which I very much appreciate. — Cody Gray ♦ 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by adiga
 
7:22 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jw_
@ Peter Mortensen No it's any natural number. The meaning is any user can vote a question for 1 time, and the question can be voted up for any times. The votes decide the search result. But the author of the Q/A can't get votes*10 reputation, it's limited to like 5*10 reputation. It's crazy that a simple pupular question get 1000+ votes, the 999 votes come from pupularity, not contribution. I'v seen user with 10K+ reputation only have 3 asked questions. That's the most needed modification since the contribution is just noise in front of pupularity. — jw_ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by tynn
Is there any way to change this option, somehow? Or was support for Gravatar fully dropped and just lingers around? — tynn 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
All downvotes are "drive-by", at least assuming the validity of the "driving" metaphor for browsing the Internet (didn't it used to be surfing? that was so much cooler). No votes are accompanied by a comment; they are two independent features. You can expect questions to be downvoted when they do not show any research effort, are unclear, or are not useful (see also: the tooltip on the downvote arrow). On Meta sites in particular, votes are used as a quick way of expressing agreement with the perceived sentiment of a post: in this case, the suggestion chat should be more emphasized. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by geisterfurz007
Given the current chaos around SO, the fact that chat.SO/SE still didn't get the same facelift all other pages got (except data.SE) and my request on that matter went seemingly unnotices by SE (no official answer nor comment) and the mobile version of chat still declares it as the new thing, I guess it is fair to assume that chat does not really receive a lot of attention. — geisterfurz007 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gerardo Furtado
@CodyGray Yes, I understand that, it was just a joke (the "On a more serious note" below is a hint of that) based on the fact that lately the company is more interested in announcements without any previous discussion. Also, thanks for understanding that the "you" is not you, Cody, but the company. It's hard not taking such things personally. — Gerardo Furtado 44 secs ago
 
8:06 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Anakin
Sometimes I find a question with good research and intent, but maybe missing some code from the OP that can make it easier for people to answer. So, the Needs Clarification feature is essential in those cases. I mean it would be plain wrong to tag them Unsavageable while Looks OK wouldn't help the OP get an answer. — Anakin 54 secs ago
 
8:46 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ocaso Protal
@CodyGray I don't think that that hint is the cause for a constuctive discussion. I think the real reason for a constructive discussion is that you communicate a lot in this topic. It is not a fire and forget announcement like some others here or on MSO lately. You (and others like Yaakov or Shog) understand that communication is the key, even if you can't change the decission your announcement is about. — Ocaso Protal 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Will Ness
@TylerH yeah, literally no one cares. let's eliminate the rep entirely then, no one cares / should care about it in RL either. — Will Ness 22 secs ago
 
9:12 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by treyBake
@CodyGray ah that makes sense, hopefully one day I'll get the rep priv. and start locking :) — treyBake 1 min ago
 
9:22 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ismael Miguel
I see why they made this into a banner and a blog post, instead of a post in meta.stackexchange.com : they knew we wouldn't like it, and we can't downvote blog posts into oblivion. — Ismael Miguel 1 min ago
 
9:40 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Michael Berry
[ Boson ] New comment posted by James
@CodyGray Perhaps I should have expanded the quote: the requirements were constructive and respectful. This is a flag that people cannot air their true feelings if they don't like a change becuase the company is unwilling to listen to criticism and in fact wants to censor it. — James 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
Could you add a link to the review? — BDL 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Flink
Of course, added just now, hope that is the right link — Flink 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by James
@CodyGray I should add that I'm not making a judgement about you. I've not had any interactions with you other than this to do so. The statement is about the corporate actions, which I'm aware individuals are under pressure to comply with, often against their will. — James 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
There is at least a second question with the exact same content (deleted by a moderator). stackoverflow.com/questions/58809760/…. In general I agree with you that the question looks fine on it's own. — BDL 1 min ago
 
10:02 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Flink
Ahh that makes sense. Still, a reviewer cannot know this and the audit fail seems wrong in this case. Anything I can do about it? — Flink 42 secs ago
 
10:18 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
Wait here and see if a moderator steps in to explain what really happened. When tomorrow noone has helped, you could also flag your post here for moderator attention. When this review did not get you banned, there is not much a moderator can do anyway (besides giving an explanation). — BDL 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
Can reproduce that on Firefox. When clicking on "reopen" the modal opens, the review switches back to tab "Question (revised)" and after clicking "Vote to reopen" the review is done, but the dialog stays open. — Tom 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Flink
Thanks for your help, yea it blocked me from reviewing. WIll do as you said and wait first — Flink 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by am304
Thanks, I would have never managed to find this all by myself!! Unfortunately, I ran into the problem described in superuser.com/questions/1115407/… where grep is not installed on Windows. So I installed grep for windows, but I now get the following error message when I try to run your command: 'cut' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.am304 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Yeah... Windows. Haven't touched it in a while. Maybe some other gentle soul can offer a solution for Windows. Or if you are using a relatively recent version of the Beast, you could try with WSL. Come into the light, @am304! — yivi 1 min ago
 
10:46 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by allo
The karma is not about the worth of your knowledge. You don't get karma because your answer proves that you know a lot. You get karma, because you improve the knowledge base. And asking a well-received question prompts for good answers, what helps to improve the knowledge base. Just stop assuming, that karma is a system to reward your knowledge and prove your self-worth. It is a system to count positive engagement. — allo 1 min ago
 
11:18 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
Repuation (before the recalculation) has also been a very poor measurement for knowledge. The amount of easy reputation depends entirely on the tags your active in, and even inside a tag answering tons of newbie question duplicates rewarded more rep than giving high-quality answers to hard problems. — BDL 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jpp
I'm upvoting this question (because I believe it deserves a thorough answer) even though I oppose the idea. — jpp 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Søren D. Ptæus
@BDL I agree. I just observed some comments like this one having connotations that knowledge should be deemed more important than general contribution. Personally I am unsure whether having two different scores would be a good solution. But to me it's an idea that comes up naturally to resolve the perceived conflict of knowledge vs. contribution so needs discussion. — Søren D. Ptæus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
@SørenD.Ptæus: But that would only make sense if you can propose a way to measure said knowledge. Currently, your proposal is "Split it up", without giving any idea on how this could be implemented/measured. — BDL 1 min ago
 
11:42 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user3226167
For users with 50k-60k rep, on average, less than 15% rep comes from asking questionlink. Less than 7% users within range gain rep mainly from asking questions. While this stat is inaccurate, I think rep change does not affect high-rep users. — user3226167 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
This site would be a better place when people would stop trying to attach status to internet points that a website is merely lending out to your account. Rep points are not any kind of proof of knowledge, they're at most a sign of progress up the ladder of responsibility. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
I hope you understand why you are getting downvotes here --> 0 effort of searching — Temani Afif 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Abhishek Gurjar
I am not the downvoter here but you know it will also be not good to get this type of comments -1 bad formatting. — Abhishek Gurjar 1 min ago
 
12:10 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Niklesh Raut
Up-voting reputation should be in decrease subsequently and also there should be limit for gaining reputation on any question or answer. — Niklesh Raut 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
A bounty is a way to attract new answers and then you reward the best one. That can be "misused" by not bothering about new answers and instead plan on rewarding an already given answer. That's not how bounties were designed and an one should usually use an upvote to award an answer. So I don't think bounties should be allowed for closed questions, because their main purpose to exist in the first place is unusable for closed questions. — Tom 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Niklesh Raut
Up-voting reputation should be in decrease subsequently and also there should be limit for gaining reputation on any question or answer, by this only old users will not get benefited as usual, it gives change to new users to get more reputation than old users. — Niklesh Raut 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by bobble bubble
I thought you can't even set a bounty on a new question :) Need to wait 24 hours. Also there is an option to "Reward an existing answer". — bobble bubble 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Henrik Erlandsson
You'll find dictionaries don't cover fora such as forums. ;) It's probably not quite the right word. The word elitist is used for other places that are not led by an elite. Take the meaning of a place where not everyone is allowed to act; the bar is higher on SO than a normal forum; some strict rules about where and how to ask are enforced mercilessly, and votes from the most active users kill questions that fulfill the rules. Those who do that and who made the rules are the elite in the same sense as democratically elected leaders. — Henrik Erlandsson 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
 
12:46 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by xdtTransform
I don't recall any official statement or documentation linking reputation and Knoweldge or skill. Stackoverflow is also a network for Job. So I understand that some people may try to associate those point to a real life value. But there is none. Time = reputation+ . Skill + time = reputation +++ ; — xdtTransform 41 secs ago
 
1:10 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by IMSoP
@WillNess Then it sounds like you were voting wrong, and breaking this habit is a good thing. For votes to be useful for anything, whether it's reputation or just ranking search results, they need to reflect quality, not sympathy. — IMSoP just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tschallacka
if your question gets a net score of 5 or 10 positive upvotes, then all upvotes count as 10 points, because that's an indicator that you posted a good/useful question. I could get behind such a mechanic. — Tschallacka 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by samcarter
[ Boson ] New comment posted by samcarter
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PM 77-1
@Alexei Would you consider posting it as an answer with link to the source? — PM 77-1 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kaiido
That a question did attract an answer worse of a bounty might be the sign it shouldn't have been closed to begin with. I don't think allowing bounties on closed questions is a good idea, but rather that in the particular case the closing might need reconsideration. — Kaiido 1 min ago
 
1:52 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
@Kaiido A good answer doesn't make a question on-topic when it was off-topic before. I can prevent this Q&A getting deleted, though. — Tom 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BobbyA
@einpoklum-reinstateMonica It's not an accusation. I'm not suggesting that Tim acted maliciously in any way. I'm just pointing out that if you have a personality type that prone to feel "attacked" when criticized at all, it'll color how you react to situations. And if you're in a leadership position, the way you react to situations will influence the culture of your team in a similar way. — BobbyA 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kaiido
@Tom closing the question prevents potential answerers from losing their time trying to answer a question that can not or should not be answered. If a question got a good answer, what closing reason stays valid? Dupe, and in this case, the good answer might be better on the canonical. — Kaiido 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BobbyA
Incidentally, I just read one of Sara's blog posts where she talks about feeling attacked by SO employees that pushed back against something she wanted to implement. Later, upon re-reading the discussion, she realized that there were no personal attacks, and all of their criticisms were professional. So regardless of how others may have colored her perceptions of meta, it seems she too has a personality type that isn't well suited to managing an online community. Citation: stackoverflow.blog/2019/07/18/…BobbyA 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeroen
@adeneo I would argue that a wiseman has a lot more questions then answers. — Jeroen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
It's highly unlikely that you lost your answer privilege because of one answer to a duplicate. Which error message do you get? Do you have any other deleted answers? — BDL 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Bron
Or any other accounts which have been sanctioned or deleted? SE will merge multiple accounts into one, including any past histories or sanctions for all of them, when users create new accounts to get around bad histories or sanctions imposed on existing accounts. — Dan Bron 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by samcarter
Do you have a link to the deleted question? Duplicates are normally not deleted, but will stay around quite some time to link to the other post. There might have been other reasons for the deletion — samcarter 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Scott, content is curated, not users. If the question was not good or useful enough to keep around, better to delete it. No matter who had posted answers under it. — yivi 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scott Hannen
For a new user, if the answer is good I'd err on the side of not wiping out their very first answer. That's just me. I don't know if there are other factors. — Scott Hannen 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hans Passant
In general, if you google the compiler error message and the first two hits already give a perfectly good explanation then posting an answer is not usually a great idea. — Hans Passant 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by tweray
Imagine checking encyclopedia and found a single term being defined twice on page 231 and page 401, and there's only subtle differences in way of description between those two places. Answering known duplicate question is giving all future visitor that kind of experience, and I couldn't call it a "good faith" move. — tweray 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
@rbrtn: If you don't get any error message, how do you know then that your answer privilege is gone? — BDL 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
If you do receive any message at all, what makes you think you lost your answering privileges? — yivi 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rbrtn
To commenters: No error message. No other deleted answers. No other accounts past or present. The question is at stackoverflow.com/questions/58785876/…. Sorry I didn't think of that myself. — rbrtn 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by adiga
I voted to delete close and delete that question. The accepted answer in the duplicate mentions the exact same thing as your answer. The question lacks any sort of research and there is no reason to keep it on the site — adiga 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
About your answer: I guess the question was deleted because it's a well known duplicate and all of the answers are wrong/incomplete. Yours, for example, does only return the correct digit count for positive integers. — BDL 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
@BDL The answer isn't even correct for large positive integers, e.g. getDigitCount(1e50); returns 5 — Erik A 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rbrtn
I know I lost my answering privileges because the submit button was grayed out and unresponsive to clicks when I tried to use it and I got zero messages. Good point on the positive integers. Just shows how much I still don't know. To adiga: I reluctantly agree with your rationale for deleting the question. — rbrtn 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
This whole answer forgets that post score is a linear function of page views. — Braiam 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
We don't have karma, we have reputation, and votes on comments don't gain you any reputation. Comment upvotes are pretty much irrelevant except for making a specific comment stand out among other comments. — Erik A 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Could you provide a screenshot of what you see when you try to post an answer? It could be a bug and not a ban (or both), if you do not get any message at all. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Pztar
Mine also jumped by 500. It could be a delayed calculation? Yesterday I was at 2k but when I check my rep history there was some rep from earlier in the month that had not gone into the 2k. — Pztar 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Autar
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
@rbrtn You probably tried to answer a protected question or something. I'm pretty sure you still have your answer privileges, but specific questions require reputation to answer — Erik A 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by YakovL
@samcarter yeah, I only searched Meta.SO, not Meta.SE, thanks — YakovL 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@WillNess Again, someone complaining about the thing in and of itself, and you using that as evidence that people care for a good reason, is a little tautological. Aside from that, your comment is inaccurate: you indicate we should eliminate rep, but what we're talking about are the social rankings, not rep. They could certainly do away with the reputation leagues pages and associated features and still keep the reputation system; you'd simply never know whether you were in the top 0.2% or bottom 0.2%, which would probably be better, anyway. — TylerH 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rbrtn
The question I tried to answer was a new one, so I don't think it could have been protected. Considering that my answer was inadequate even as a solution to the questioner's very basic problem, I now believe the deletion of the answer - and the points I got for it - was well justified. Nevertheless, I think beginners should be warned away from this site, to spare them the experience I and the questioner have had. — rbrtn 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@wha7ever Homework questions are not inherently off-topic (which is what you mean when you say it was deleted). They just have specific requirements that other questions do not. — TylerH 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@ErikA OP has more than 10 reputation (and has since Nov 9th) so they can answer protected questions. — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by wha7ever
@rbrtn I am not privileged enough to see question but the title of the question in url is need-help-find-the-missing-code-to-find-the-digit-count-of-t‌​he-function which sounds like a homework question, which is why it was deleted. — wha7ever 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Never mind the deleted question. Do you still say you have "lost your answering privileges"? — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by wha7ever
@TylerH True. But it starts with "need help", followed by "find the missing code", which prompts me to ask "what have you done so far to find that missing code?". Maybe question lacked research? But whatever. — wha7ever 13 secs ago
 
3:20 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rbrtn
I don't know enough about how this site works to say for certain that I no longer have answering privileges. All I know is that, an hour ago or so, I tried to answer a question and couldn't submit the answer. I haven't tried answering any questions since then. I've lost my appetite for answering questions anyway. — rbrtn 1 min ago
 
3:30 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Davis Broda
Would an answer ban on SO carry over to meta-SO? Because if so, you could test the answer ban idea by trying to post a dummy answer on this question. though I'm not 100% sure if bans carry over that way. Can anyone confirm? — Davis Broda 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
@Kaiido "If a question got a good answer, what closing reason stays valid?" Every close reason that exists. A question is not too broad anymore, just because someone wrote an answers others deemed helpful. Your question is not primarily opinion based anymore just because someone wrote an answer with their opinion and others agreed to. Your question is still unclear even when someone guessed something and others thought "they might be right and the answer quite good" and upvoted it. It question can still be off-topic for SO when you ask for a noodle recipe and someone gave you a good one. — Tom 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
@Kaiido The issue here is how you define "good". An upvoted answer isn't necessarily a post the SO rules see as "good" as well, so it obviously can't bend the rules in the off-topic questions favour. — Tom 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
@DavisBroda I'm pretty sure q-bans are per site. If not, a lot of poor souls, even high-reps, would be quality banned here ... — rene 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by brasofilo
@Jesse, the "mass exodus of quality-minded users" is the desired effect. The pronoun "we" has been banned from SE and these people are not welcome anymore. — brasofilo 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by brasofilo
I don't ask questions because I usually find the solution straight away on SO archives. It doesn't make sense offloading a search for a duplicate onto someone else. — brasofilo 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Siguza
@Anakin Under the current system, marking them as "unsalvageable" would be the perfectly right course of action though, to get the question closed as a variation of "needs MCVE", and then hopefully edited by the OP and subsequently reopened. It's just that the "unsalvageable" button sounds like the end of the line, which does absolutely not have to be the case. — Siguza 1 min ago
 
3:56 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rbrtn
I've just made a new discovery. In the time since I made my meta posting the one programming question I had asked on this site (this question: stackoverflow.com/questions/58774697/…) seems to have disappeared from my record, along with two reputation points. Maybe this is some mistake or another well-justified action, or maybe my paranoid suspicion of petty vindictiveness isn't paranoid. — rbrtn 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Neely
@rbrtn I think you confused yourself. Your meta profile and main user profile are different. The latter still has your question. The 2 points you lost were due to someone down voting your answer, as can be seen on your reputation tab. — Dan Neely just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lunc
bah, if they un-mod someone before they even did anything wrong then they can be speedy enough if the motivation takes them. Oh well GDPR is my friend. — Lunc 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
Is it, though? What use case would you use an SVG in a question over a PNG or JPEG? — Makoto 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
Do elaborate. Justify why you need the SVG file in the question about your Inkscape automation script. — Makoto 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by guettli
@Makoto the question is about a svg file. It is a question about inkscape. — guettli 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Will Ness
@IMSoP got the message: "no more being nice and welcoming". as I said somewhere else on this entry, I only did this for Qs which were good at the core and only superficially - or initially - bad, which if I felt received their downvotes unfairly. I'll be more skimpy with the upvotes now. that's just how it is. — Will Ness 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by guettli
@Makoto no. lost interest. Already three down-votes. I am here for fun, not to justify me ideas. — guettli 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
If you have a rather small SVG, you can use the snippet tool to paste the SVG (in the HMTL box). That allows people to easily inspect the source and view the image output as well. — Erik A 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Will Ness
@TylerH I've tired of this discussion, but for some reason what's crystal clear to me is muddy to you: your argument goes both ways, the rep and the ranking the same. just my opinion; your mileage clearly varies. -- 'coulda woulda' doesn't count: we have both rep and rank now. BTW, interesting to see what reaction it'd get if you'd proposed to get rid of the ranking leagues (except, there's SEDE...). If you do, could you please do me a favor and ping me here, as I'm extremely likely to miss it since I almost never follow the meta. Happy trails, — Will Ness 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JP Silvashy
You didn't "build" SO, they did, you are an end-user. The great thing is you can actually just leave, you were also never actually owed any sort of voice in the conversation, there was never even the false pretense that you would have a say into changes of the points scheme. Sorry it hurts to hear that. — JP Silvashy 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by guettli
@ErikA do you have a link to docs about "snippet tool"? — guettli 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rbrtn
Hmm! I haven't been here long enough to get used to this site's organization but I know that the question's votes were above zero for days before I made my meta posting. And my badges are still missing. — rbrtn 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
I've noticed mse pop up with new questions, but i've had so sitting on SO for a few minutes now with no update, no error in console, just... nothin — Kevin B 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick Cardoso
Now a question needs to get a -5 score to offset just a +1 vote reputation change. This just makes things even easier for the voting fraud rings to game the system. — Nick Cardoso 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by xxbbcc
If I saw signs of effort and a mistake, I personally wouldn't downvote but there's no downvote rules so others may. — xxbbcc 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
No repro. Do you have JS enabled? — Zoe 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
These are your badges. Maybe you should stop with the accusations. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@rbrtn They almost surely never left. — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rbrtn
Thanks. Nice to have them back! — rbrtn 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
That hasn't worked for me for years. Ever since the "new" (now old and defunct after the "new new") nav came around. — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
@guettli I guess this faq is as close as docs as you're going to get — Erik A 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BJ Myers
Regarding parallels to decisions made by Jeff Atwood - Jeff had a lot more credit in the trust bank when these decisions were made. — BJ Myers 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rajat banerjee
3 people bothered to answer my question. Also, people upvoted the question, the answer i chose, as well as the asnwers I did not choose. One of the guys who answered was almost 900k, and he chose to show me the difference in my understanding, rather than putting me down. I would have preferred if the user has asked me to modify my question. In the end, i got my question answered, so i am happy. — Rajat banerjee 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rbrtn
Once again I'm confused by the site's design. On the top bar of every page there's a number next to the score number. Hovering over the number identifies it as the number of badges you have. Isn't that number identical on every page where it appears? — rbrtn 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by guettli
@ErikA since I mostly do python and linux I never used. Thank you for this hint! — guettli 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by IMSoP
@WillNess That's not what I said at all. Feel free to be nice and welcoming but don't use the up vote button to do so. Maybe leave a note saying "there's the beginning of a good question here, but you need to fix these things before it deservers an upvote". — IMSoP 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by guettli
@ErikA maybe give the user an advice if he wants to upload svg, but it fails. A text like "Please try ..." would very helpful. — guettli 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
"Smiley are what we invented to make sure intent come across as intended on the internet" ... who is "we"? Also I don't see how a Smiley would fix anything here. It just masks the "unpleasant" information, but doesn't remove it. The question is still at -7 (like in the first pic) and the question would still have close votes, even when you don't see them. Also, where is "OP not having to explain himself in comments since system is well made" coming from? What system would prevent OP from asking an unclear question, like in the first pic? The smiley? — Tom 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
I don't claim to know the solution but I will claim adamantly that replacing some existing metric with emoji is definitely not the solution. — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Neely
@rbrtn you have the same number of reputation points on a main site and on meta, but meta has its own set of badges. — Dan Neely 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rbrtn
Thank you, Tyler, for your full and informative answer. To date, I have made one meta posting (this one), asked one question and tried to give one answer, and I recall neither of the latter two getting a single downvote. Nontheless, I realize nothing fashioned by humans is perfect. I have no serious problem with the ban. — rbrtn 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rbrtn
Thanks for that info Dan. My ignorance is an ocean. — rbrtn 33 secs ago
 
5:24 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rajat banerjee
people downvoting a question asking about downvoting, where does one go now? LOL — Rajat banerjee 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by davidbak
@Rajatbanerjee - voting works differently on META boards than on the base stack. See here: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/47634/… - it won't actually be very helpful for this post since your post is not a proposal - but it should help you realize that the vote here is more "that isn't the way things work" rather than "your question was bad". — davidbak 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rajat banerjee
sure @davidbak .i was wondering at the irony — Rajat banerjee 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Thomas F
See similar report here. — Thomas F 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Patrickkx
@TylerH It worked like 1yr ago but now... nothing... — Patrickkx 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
 
6:00 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hans Passant
How SO users use their right to vote is nobody's concern. If however they use them to fraudulently upvote posts then it is a deep concern, it destroys the value that this web site provides. Your profile show too much evidence of such fraud. You need to alert a moderator to get that problem fixed. — Hans Passant 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Davy M
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rajat banerjee
Not sure i understood what "Your profile show too much evidence of such fraud." or what led you to such understanding — Rajat banerjee 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Grant - REINSTATE MONICA
Ouch. So much for rewarding those question askers. 🤦‍♂️ — Grant - REINSTATE MONICA 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dmckee
I know I've commented on this several times already and I am beginning to fear that I'm boring everyone, but ... Jeff's move wasn't the beginning. It was a sudden overuling of a highly upvoted proposal to increase the weight of downvotes. And the reason for that wasn't entirely about the quality of questions. It was about a small but visible cadre of users who were gaining non-trivial privileges despite posting mostly negatively voted content. People who were routinely contributing more bad content than good were being rewarded. This remains a problem on Physics today. — dmckee 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Davy M
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Random
Is there a way to check the diff before/after to find the decrease cause? — Random 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ahmad Alwareh
so you want me to delete it now? @DavyM — Ahmad Alwareh 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Davy M
It depends. If those fully answer your concerns, then sure, there's not much point in this question staying around. But you might want to ask specifically how to improve your questions, as they might be salvageable -- I've only looked through the max int one, so I don't have an opinion to give on that. — Davy M 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ahmad Alwareh
maybe it is weird to ask but if you think that question was good why do not you upvote it? @DavyM — Ahmad Alwareh 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rajat banerjee
i would say that my question here adds to the previously asked one. — Rajat banerjee 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scott Hannen
Why is even possible to downvote a question years after someone has forgotten it? I get downvoting old answers, but what is the benefit of even being able to downvote an old question? — Scott Hannen 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Not sure about the third question, but the first two are not bad questions, and they're definitely not "unsalvageable". — Cody Gray ♦ 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Because downvotes are a content rating system, @Scott, and just because a question is "old" doesn't make it any less of content. Downvotes aren't a way of insulting the person who asked the question. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ahmad Alwareh
Now I got a new 2 downvotes after posting this question! and no one explains why! even this post got a downvote — Ahmad Alwareh 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
There is no way for you to check your own reputation change. However, moderators can see this information in a history log. Your reputation was 2295 before the recalc, and it was 2650 after the recalc. So...it didn't decrease at all. You evidently aren't one of the users affected by the issues that animuson is referring to. Lucky you! @Random — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by halfer
Downvotes on your Meta posts do not affect your bans or reputation. Downvotes on your main account as a result of posting here are known as "The Meta Effect" - it is officially discouraged, and most Meta users are able to refrain, but one or two anonymous folks spoil things for others. — halfer 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Hi Priyesh Shukla, welcome to Meta! I'm not sure which search brought you here but the problem you describe will not be answered on this specific site. To get an answer from users that have the expertise about the topic of your question you'll have to find and then re-post on the proper site. Check How do I ask a good question and What is on topic on the target site to make sure your post is in good shape. Your question is definitely off-topic on Meta and is better deleted here. — rene 1 min ago
 
6:56 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Chipster
Don't know why you got a question ban, but I will say don't take down-votes personally. People down-vote for all kinds of reasons and some of them aren't even good reasons. Getting down-votes isn't a reflection on you personally. — Chipster 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ahmad Alwareh
I know it is not personal, but this behavior "Not describing why downvote" leads a lot of people to same situation as mine, whatever you do there will be a guy who will see your question as bad and downvote it @Chipster — Ahmad Alwareh 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@guettli "I am here for fun, not to justify me ideas" - so you basically drop some random idea without even thinking whether it would be useful for the site as "feature-request" to have fun? I can see it as trolling... Not exactly clear what you expected from such post... — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Chipster
I hear you. Not explaining why you are down-voting a question can lead to a bad experience for the other person, but there is a somewhat good reason why it isn't mandatory to leave a reason for down-voting. — Chipster 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Chris Baker
@CodyGray Out of curiosity, is there any specific reason why that history isn't available to users on their profile? — Chris Baker 33 secs ago
 
7:18 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mlvljr
Cries "Am a rich maahn now!!" -- after receiving a 1.1K rep bump for some trivial Qs from 10 years ago. — mlvljr 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zero298
@CodyGray Except on the Meta Stack Exchange which is where I'd like to use my downvotes to dissent the most. But hey, I guess I'll just sit at 99 there forever. — zero298 25 secs ago
 
7:52 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by adeneo
@JPSilvashy - of course, all websites are effectively dictatorships, with an owner that ultimately makes all the decisions. However, when your site relies on other people creating all the content, for free, you better at least try to make it appear like they have a say, and keep them happy, that's what the gamification and Meta is about. The people who built SO, Jeff and Joel, got that, but they aren't here anymore, and the new leadership seems to be more busy with making money and increasing pageviews, then keeping up the appereance of including the existing users, to make them happy. — adeneo 46 secs ago
 
8:12 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jean-François Fabre
I'm still able to beat Turbo C++ as asm :) — Jean-François Fabre ♦ 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jean-François Fabre
very unlikely that someone creates 3 sock puppet accounts with 125+ votes just to be able to massively downvote. I mean, this is possible, but 1) difficult 2) rare 3) why would this person downvote all answers? — Jean-François Fabre ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Seems pretty straightforward as is to me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ "Clicking “Log out” will log you out of the following domains on this device:" Clearly... if it's asking you to click "log out" to log out... you're not logged out yet. Additional text saying you aren't logged out yet would be redundant. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Will Ness
@CodyGray the 'calculation' argument does not hold water. each event comes with a time tag; simply count the votes preceding the cut-off date by the old rules, while recalculating as well. that's all. — Will Ness 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
It’s still a duplicate, irrespective of the passage of time, since the answer is the exact same. Deletion of accounts with a significant amount of reputation has to manually reviewed/approved by a staff member. I imagine that they’re backed up right now, with all the new policies and a likely increase in the number of users requesting account deletion. Is there some urgency to completing this process? You could contact the team via email, using the “contact” page linked in the site footer. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
 
8:36 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
I’m pretty sure that the live question update has never been enabled on Stack Overflow, for the same reason that you do not drink from a fire hose. It works on Meta, and on other SE sites, as long as you have JavaScript enabled. Live refresh also works on SO for edits to individual posts. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Historical locks are a moderator-only feature. If you come across a closed question that you think should be locked, you can raise a flag or talk to a moderator. Note that locks are only used on historical Q&A that add significant value, such that deleting them would be making the Internet a worse place. For all other old posts that do not meet our current standards, we just delete (which is a privilege granted by rep). — Cody Gray ♦ 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Heh. Well, that certainly would be an ironic side-effect. That data should be accessible from SEDE after a couple of weeks. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Yeah, I get that you’re frustrated with the way the company has handled things lately, including both ignoring and even actively suppressing criticism. Me too. So I’m sensitive to suggestions that I might be doing that. I was sensitive before, but now I’m extra careful. So I just want to clarify that “constructive and respectful” as it appears in the announcement above is not a dog-whistle for “toe the company line”. I think the comments and answers here stand testament to that. It literally just means don’t attack individuals or be a jerk. Everyone’s done well following it; much appreciated — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Not sure if you’d consider me to be a high-rep user, but I consider SO to be an excellent place to ask questions. Probably the best place. I do ask questions when I have them and cannot find the answer. But...I can often find the answer faster myself by researching, either reading the documentation or by finding a duplicate already asked on SO. That’s why I and most of the other high-rep users don’t ask very many questions. — Cody Gray ♦ 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jose Antonio Reinstate Monica
A bit more than 100 days have elapsed since this post. Do you feel that you have been able to enact your approach? - Release changes (informed by research, pre-existing Meta feedback, and lots of input from our CMs and other experts on the team) - Listen to feedback and data to help us iterate quicklyJose Antonio Reinstate Monica 41 secs ago
 
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