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12:02 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Draco18s
Speaking of, @Shog9 I've noticed lately (like, two months now) that scrolling is an issue on mobile and I have to scroll a lot/fast in order to not have it autoscrolled back up on me (or down, if I was going up). I'll grant that my touchscreen is a bit wonky these days, but its only Stack Overflow that has this problem (and a select handful of sister sites, not the whole network). But its just...inconsistent enough that I've not bothered whining about it. — Draco18s 1 min ago
 
12:40 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shog9
Post a bug report please @draco? Screen-grab if you can. — Shog9 ♦ 1 min ago
 
 
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1:46 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shinjo
@TylerH Like when you ask about "how does A work" it wasn't found on SO but you can find them in either official documentation or random github issue explaining that. — Shinjo 17 secs ago
 
2:26 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
You could adblock it... but then you're losing all of them. — Kevin B 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Draco18s
@Shog9 "Screen grab" is difficult on mobile. I'll see about trying, though. — Draco18s 1 min ago
 
2:52 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Draco18s
@Shog9 The behavior might've gone away on its own, too. Just spent a good while trying to get it to happen, but couldn't. Maybe it was fixed already or it fixed itself. I don't browse SO regularly on my tablet, and its one of those things that when its working right, you don't notice. Soo... :\ — Draco18s 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
It goes away as soon as you click on the “x”. But I do agree with the general spirit of this question… These site-wide banners are supposed to be reserved for important system announcements, not “we made a podcast”. Podcasts and blog posts belong in the “Community Bulletin”, just as they always have. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S Shahid
@CodyGray It goes away as soon as you click on the “x”. This is the funniest thing I have read today. I am stealing this. :D — S Shahid 1 min ago
 
3:16 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
At least it wasn't another jobs/teams ad (at least not directly) — Kevin B 1 min ago
 
3:28 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by pppery
Even after your revision, the question still appears to be answered by the second suggested duplicate. — pppery 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by pppery
It's October 23 already, and I am still seeing this. — pppery 1 min ago
 
3:58 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shog9
Not in my timezone it isn't, @pppery — Shog9 ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
My userscript ReduceClutter now blocks announcement bars containing the text "podcast". — Samuel Liew ♦ 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Brad
This question sure doesn't seem like a duplicate to me, at least not of what it was linked to. — Brad 1 min ago
 
5:02 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tomasz Nazarenko
I wish the dark mode was implemented. It could work as well automatically like on the macrumors.com website and many more that started to implement this feature. — Tomasz Nazarenko 1 min ago
 
5:38 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ivarni
Removing all the excess whitespace is probably a good start :) i.imgur.com/kQZNhVT.png is 3840x1080px but only a tiny fraction of it actually has content. — ivarni just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
The image you uploaded had lots of white space. Try cropping it before uploading — CertainPerformance 36 secs ago
 
6:36 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dfhwze
Perhaps it's time to raise concerns whether MSE mods should get elected rather than appointed. — dfhwze 1 min ago
 
7:32 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Her Majesty Queen of ARC
@RobertHarvey You walk the minefield all day and then you slip over banana at your front door ;) — Her Majesty Queen of ARC 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rafa Guillermo
This is a pretty intractable problem Agreed. I am aware that there is no way of making people follow a specification set out in a tag description, but sometihng like a tag warning would certainly be of help. I would not be surprised if this isn't the only tag ambiguity that exists on Stack, but I think that's all the more of a reason for us to come up with additional steps and/or guidence for users to mitigate at least some of the erroneousness in tagging. — Rafa Guillermo 1 min ago
 
8:10 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonas Wilms
@codyGray well that's what happens if you listen to your users ... (I mean the whole podcast / blogging thing is a result of last years developer survey ...) — Jonas Wilms 52 secs ago
 
8:32 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TelKitty
Wot? How many kitties do you know??! — TelKitty 1 min ago
 
9:06 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jon Harper
I think they're trying to show the new CEO off. — Jon Harper 21 secs ago
 
9:32 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by robingood
Another legend is gone! All best for your future endeavors! — robingood 1 min ago
 
9:58 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick A the Popcorn King
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tensibai
TL;DR: there's 3 groups, A see 0 instead of -3, B see -1 instead of -3, C see -3. you're in group B when logged I think — Tensibai 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hans Passant
I suppose that if you're not logged-in then you can't vote (or easily find your question back) so don't have to be lied to. The experiment ends today, hopefully this all becomes but a bad memory. — Hans Passant 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick A the Popcorn King
^ Additionally, from the proposed dupe: "You will only see this if you are logged into the site."Nick A the Popcorn King 1 min ago
 
10:14 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
did you ask at Security and Cryptography meta whether they want that? — gnat just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
did you ask at mechanics meta whether they want that? — gnat 40 secs ago
 
10:26 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Ringrose
Personally I downvote all answers to a question I think should be deleted as it makes it more likely the system will automatically delete the questince once it is closed and has a few down votes. — Ian Ringrose 1 min ago
 
10:36 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hans Passant
Because no normal user can delete a highly upvoted post with just a single vote. It is so over-the-top spammy that it got hilarious, why nobody has cast even a single downvote on it is hard to guess. You can be the first. — Hans Passant 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BoltClock
I guess the moderator chose to believe the author's introductory paragraph in which they refer to StarUML as one of the UML tools they explored? — BoltClock ♦ 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick A the Popcorn King
How is it clearly marketing and not someone who just really likes StarUML, what link is there between the user and the product? — Nick A the Popcorn King 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BoltClock
@BDL: I think the self-promotion rules have largely been unchanged from that time. — BoltClock ♦ 31 secs ago
 
10:58 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
Please consider reading the accepted answer to this question. — Heretic Monkey 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DrMickeyLauer
@gnat Not yet, would that make a difference now that the "powers" seem to have decided? — DrMickeyLauer 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DrMickeyLauer
I did, thanks for the note. By that logic though you would need to forbid all entries in the flagging dialog. — DrMickeyLauer 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DrMickeyLauer
@gnat Ok, let me do that and come back with an answer. — DrMickeyLauer 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
@DrMickeyLauer if they were enthusiastically in favor of that, I would expect that could make much difference — gnat 1 min ago
 
11:22 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by psubsee2003
In my experience, there is a big gray area between spam and self promotion (even if non-disclosed). Because the SPAM flag carries a 100 rep penalty, mods seem to be much more cautious about accepting those flags. However in this case, the user posted exactly 2 answers, both about the same product, both very spammy, and hasn't logged in since Jan 2011, I would think they made an error since the only purpose of that account seems to be promoting a specific product. The upvotes on that answer may have also been something to do with it since it seemingly has helped people. — psubsee2003 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
Please come back with a new question. Answers are not the correct place for requests. — Heretic Monkey 1 min ago
 
11:36 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Just use the Contact Us link at the bottom of every page and explain what you need help with. — rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by arnt
@randomusername do you mean people whose names are known or visible (as mine is) and who might not want to flag creepy or insulting stuff because flagging would make others think that they are LBblah? Or do you have some other scenadio in mind? — arnt 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DrMickeyLauer
@HereticMonkey By answer I meant the answer from the Mechanics folks… — DrMickeyLauer 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lewis
@rene Thanks, I've now done that. I was hoping there would be a simpler solution - having to use the contact form to request this seems unnecessary. — Lewis 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by I am the Most Stupid Person
@Lewis yes of course. It is really unnecessary to use contact form for these types of basic things — I am the Most Stupid Person 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Yeah, it is fair to assume all edge cases are covered. Given the size of the dev team on SE they might not have foreseen that your usecase would be a blocking factor. The question is fine and assuming you don't want to wait for 6 to 8 weeks to have this fixed, contact us is the route to go. The staff handling those are friendly and helpful in the cases I had to involve them. Take care! — rene 1 min ago
 
12:26 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 is still on strike
 
12:50 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
Well, the entire (pointless) question is gone now. Good job meta :) — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
I might have failed in my search, but it looks like there is no question regarding deleting a SO Teams account. If you want, you can focus your question on that part, so it is better suited to be found and better works as a reference. — Tom 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
 
1:24 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
@Shinjo Sure; keep in mind each person's threshold for what constitutes "enough research" might be different. Some people think SO is fine as a first stop; most of us think you should search exhaustively and ask here only as a last resort. — TylerH 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lewis
@Tom Thanks, I would but I'm a) not sure how to best edit it to fit that and b) the answer below would not make as much sense. I'm open to it being edited, though. — Lewis 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
@Lewis Well .. to be honest that's all fine. We could think about changing the title to just "How can I delete my Teams account when I'm the only admin there?", but your title is fine as well. The question body itself is already very good and nothing needs to be done there. I've deleted my other comment, because it is obsolete now. — Tom 1 min ago
 
2:06 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
@HerMajestyQueenofARC: Ain't that the truth. — Robert Harvey 1 min ago
 
2:40 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by HashRocketSyntax
@MartijnPieters with all of your rep I figured you were an SO founder! — HashRocketSyntax 45 secs ago
 
3:00 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
It doesn't sound like this question is asking about the 100 rep association bonus, but rather forming a "rep pool" for all sites in the Stack Exchange Network. — Heretic Monkey 1 min ago
 
3:10 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Wai Ha Lee
The experiment seems to be over now. — Wai Ha Lee 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
Does it mean the user will not be able to delete his account for at least 60 days? — Trilarion 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CRU
@HereticMonkey that was exactly my intention behind asking this question. — CRU 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Veljko89
Sooo saying you are bad at math is now harassment and rude? — Veljko89 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Juice
@Trilarion That is correct. — Juice ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
You may want to edit your question to make that clear, so that the question does not get closed as a duplicate. I think the existing answer explains why that's not likely to occur. — Heretic Monkey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CRU
Thanks for your help. — CRU 1 min ago
 
3:36 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
That may take awhile. Stack Exchange is busy with the mosh pit they created in Meta.SE. — Robert Harvey 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
They'll be posted in due time. — Kevin B 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
Lots of confused and angry people mostly. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by QBrute
As you said, the experiment finished today. It's not like you can press a switch and voilá: all data has been processed and collected into a presentable format. It takes time... Just be patient, the results will be disclosed. — QBrute 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Neely
The results from the 3 close vote experiment took about a month to analyze and write up. I wouldn't expect anything for a few weeks. — Dan Neely 34 secs ago
 
4:32 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makyen
I agree, hiding negative scores has more potential for far reaching negative effects on answers. IMO, doing so on answers largely invalidates the quality controls which SO's success is built upon. A major point of SO is that a visitor can see what solutions other people found to be good, and what solutions other people found to be bad (and how bad), along with ones on which feedback is neutral. If no negative scores are shown to users, then users are unable to differentiate between "unknown/neutral" and bad. That causes all sorts of problems, culminating in a much less useful site. — Makyen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by GrumpyCrouton
Do you realize this question was asked and answered 4 years ago? — GrumpyCrouton 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by fbueckert
This is, at best, a rant. People are willing to listen to criticism, but it needs to be tempered with constructiveness. — fbueckert 1 min ago
 
4:58 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lewis
I read the whole thing without figuring out exactly what exactly your issue is. A "delete nothing" policy would be chaos on a network that generates hundreds (if not thousands) of questions and answers per day. I think this sentence here is the crux of it; "now that would be a forum." - SO is not a forum. It's a Q&A. — Lewis 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Looking at the score you might have wished the experiment had continued here ... — rene 24 secs ago
 
5:18 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
Is it officially ended then? As of this morning (a few hours ago) I was still seeing it. — TylerH 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Laurel
Better feature request: don’t use the banner for unimportant stuff like podcasts. What should be up there right now is the announcement for the new CoC changes, particularly for people with an account. — Laurel 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JL2210
First link is dead. — JL2210 just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mena
@JL2210 that's because the whole CoC update was deleted by SE,and they made a new one. — Mena 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JL2210
@Mena I know. But this doesn't make any sense anymore after it was deleted. — JL2210 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mena
@JL2210 yep. I was on my mobile. About to delete this anyway - the "new" CoC article royally allows us to delete gender stuff from Q&As ("as long as a comment reporting the deleted content is added"). Gonna delete this now. What's the point anyway... — Mena 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark Amery
@RobertHarvey I'm considering asking for a mod to post the 44 flagged comments mentioned in your suspension message, so we can judge for ourselves whether they were truly rude or abrasive. Would you object to me doing so? — Mark Amery 1 min ago
 
6:08 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
@MarkAmery: You can if you feel like it. I'd prefer a meta post asking for better transparency in mod messages. I used that boilerplate message all the time when I was a mod. but never understood why people got confused until I was suspended myself. The truth is that boilerplate message is every bit as impersonal as the corporate boilerplate SE has been using on Meta. — Robert Harvey 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lewis
Thank you for the confirmation. Is there a reason that I can't expedite this? The team is utterly useless (no questions asked or answered and wouldn't be worth preservation) and no billing has ever taken place as it was on the free plan. Waiting potentially 90 days is a long time. — Lewis 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lewis
Thank you for the confirmation. A potential of 90 days seems excessive for account removal - is there any way to expedite this other than a GDPR request (which is 30 days)? I'm not going to, as I'm in no rush - but it might be useful information for future users. — Lewis 5 secs ago
 
6:26 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark Amery
@RobertHarvey As for whether to ask the specific question about you or the general one about detail in suspension messages, it seems to me like it'd be reasonable to do both, which I shall. — Mark Amery just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark Amery
@RobertHarvey Heh. I've been grumbling on Meta about generic boilerplate criticism being unhelpful and discourteous for a long time, albeit usually in the context of the community dishing it out on new users. I guess I'm glad to finally have you on side, at least when it comes to the principle. Sorry about the circumstances. — Mark Amery 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gatusko
@rene No I really don't care the downvotes. I will wait for a valid answer for the people who made this experiment give us a Date for the results. — Gatusko 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
@MarkAmery: Works for me. — Robert Harvey 9 secs ago
 
6:52 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JJJ
@RobertHarvey might I suggest to you what I previously suggested to Monica. TL;DR take the lead in a respectful campaign for transparency. Coordinate the campaign from an off-site chatroom (like Discord), make sure it stays civil under the leaf of experienced (former) mods. Come up with a coherent and consistent message which we can put in our bios, user names and profile pics (and Twitter, if some insist). — JJJ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JJJ
@RobertHarvey do you think that can be at all helpful? Something like Transparency Now! in reference to Seinfeld's Serenity Now!. — JJJ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
@JJJ: You give me more credit for being influential than I am actually due. I've been very active on Meta for the past couple of weeks precisely because I thought I might be able to influence enough people at SE to think "what in the hell are we doing?" But clearly I was wrong about that. — Robert Harvey just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JJJ
@RobertHarvey I think it's because we're not working together. Any campaign needs a familiar face that can rally the troops. You are known, you have a message, many users agree. The only downside to leading a campaign is that it takes time and effort and it may wear you down. If you're interested, discuss it with a few other former mods. If you do decide to go down that route, I'll join and so will many others, I think. Getting the message from the interested few (on Meta) to the wider community is key if you want to get somewhere. — JJJ 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JJJ
@RobertHarvey now you're giving SE more credit for being influential than they're actually due. They are idealists, they're not campaign savvy. They're playing salami tactics. When many users unite, they cannot divide and they will have to concede, either by taking a moderate stance or by answering to the powers above (investors and their board of directors). — JJJ 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark Amery
@RobertHarvey FYI, here is the general-case question about mod messages you proposed, and I've described my actions regarding your specific case at meta.stackexchange.com/questions/336339/…. — Mark Amery 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
I didn't realize there was a lot of crossover between this site and craigslist... Huh. — Heretic Monkey just now
 
7:50 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
While "not ready yet" is sensible... the trolling "6-8 weeks" part is at best not needed... especially since there is no evidence that recent experiments got no results reported (meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/388313/…) — Alexei Levenkov 12 secs ago
 
8:28 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JL2210
You people take humor too literally. — JL2210 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JL2210
@Shog9 When are the results going to be announced? And don't say 6 to 8 weeks. — JL2210 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
It's genuinely hard to tell nowadays. — Robert Harvey 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JL2210
They seem fine to me. Why? This seems like an XY problem :P — JL2210 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonas Wilms
There are no pronouns used here so ... And this isn't that friendly, but I think the tone is appropriate. — Jonas Wilms 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ivan
I still don't get why stating the facts is starting to be considered rude, especially in a Q&A site like this. — ivan just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JK.
No, the person asking that question was not being nice. — JK. 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mysticial
It's appropriate to normal people because it's constructive and isn't insulting or rude. But it may be unwelcoming to vampires because they don't answer the question. — Mysticial 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JL2210
"he is an a**hole" is inappropriate. "This isn't how Stack Overflow works. Read How do I ask a good question?" isn't. — JL2210 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ivan
The problem with that is that the more "welcoming" approach is usually explaining them by detail what to do, instead of telling them to read the rules and FAQ, and that is a problem even more so when you are starting to have tons of users daily posting this kind of questions. — ivan 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Mark Amery
-1, because I don't understand what point you're making. I see no pronouns anywhere; the pronouns policy is clearly irrelevant. Doubtless there's a sensible point being trollishly driven at here, perhaps about how we're focusing our thought and effort on matters irrelevant to content quality. But if so, this... doesn't exactly do a clear job of making it. — Mark Amery 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
@MarkAmery: Well, I take offense at being called a troll, and have flagged your comment accordingly. However, since the pronoun debate has become such a hot button issue that people can't discuss it anymore without losing their minds, I'll remove that from the question. — Robert Harvey 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonas Wilms
@robert a screenshot would not. Folks, the OP has no idea that we are discussing his question, and seven downvotes is ... well unusual. — Jonas Wilms 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
@RobertLongson: Doing so would remove the context. — Robert Harvey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
JL2210 - "6-8 weeks" mean "planned, but you'll never see it in your lifetime as SO never get to it"... I'm not exactly sure what you were actually trying to express by this well know joke (I definitely didn't read it "too literally")... — Alexei Levenkov 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
The fact that people are more interested in talking about how I asked this question than they are about the question being asked speaks volumes. — Robert Harvey 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Don't Panic
Have you seen this? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/370758/… I think it addresses some of your concerns. — Don't Panic 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jean-François Fabre
this review was bad as the question wasn't salvageable. There are probably other failed reviews that made the moderator take this decision. 1 month is unfair for just 1 failed audit. — Jean-François Fabre ♦ 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by fbueckert
The question is...why are you reviewing? The reward is to make the site a better place. Unfortunately, there are badges tied to the activity, so the process will be gamed so people can get the badge, which is actively detrimental to cleaning up the junk. — fbueckert 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Payam Khaninejad
Actually, this history shows how cruel it is, basically, it's like an exam which kick you out without showing your paper. — Payam Khaninejad 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jean-François Fabre
your question made it look like it was. — Jean-François Fabre ♦ 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Payam Khaninejad
And I never said it was my only mistake! — Payam Khaninejad 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jean-François Fabre
bad reviews degrade the site quality. Moderators / automatic audits are here to warn users. You've been warned a lot of times already, with reasonable ban times at start. — Jean-François Fabre ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jonas Wilms
... and that's why the 3 close vote experiment was so great and I'm looking forward to it getting switched on again ... — Jonas Wilms 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jean-François Fabre
[ Boson ] New comment posted by divibisan
It looks fine to me (though as yivi mentioned, they probably won't result in any changes to OP's behavior). Has anyone argued that they are inappropriate? — divibisan 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JL2210
@PayamKhaninejad Reviewing means improving content, not making it worse. How is stopping you from doing something that you're not good at and that you don't enjoy cruel? — JL2210 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Payam Khaninejad
@fbueckert Actually I did it for fun, not to get a badge. — Payam Khaninejad 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shog9
6-8... Fortnights? @jl2210. But seriously, I don't know - got a meeting next week to review, will proceed from there. — Shog9 ♦ 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JL2210
"I think I won't review again despite this behavior." -- Just stop and think about why it's bad for a month and come back later. — JL2210 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Payam Khaninejad
@Don'tPanic thanks — Payam Khaninejad 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
Sorry, with your track record you have to work doubly hard to prove you can be trusted to review properly. — Martijn Pieters ♦ 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Payam Khaninejad
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Checkout the edit — Payam Khaninejad 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Payam Khaninejad
@JL2210 this give me feel like I am going to jail. :D — Payam Khaninejad 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jean-François Fabre
the question itself was bad, and attracted spam & self promotion. The moderator didn't want to count that a spam, it was mere provocation by question asker :) — Jean-François Fabre ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ivan
@PayamKhaninejad You can describe it however you want, but the fact is that if you're giving out reviews that hurt the overall quality of the site then i don't see any reason to keep accepting your reviews. — ivan 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JL2210
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Where can I find my review ban history? — JL2210 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by fbueckert
Nothing wrong with doing it for fun, but...it has a purpose. A purpose you're not fulfilling. Bad reviews are worse than just leaving things alone, because it means someone else has to come along behind you and clean up the mess. People are happy to do so every now and then, as it does take learning to figure it out. But a sustained pattern just adds more work; you're making messes now, instead of cleaning them up. — fbueckert 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Payam Khaninejad
FYI: only 50 points needed to get my first gold review, based on your algorithm if I were a bad reviewer it was very hard to reach that point. @fbueckert — Payam Khaninejad 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jean-François Fabre
@JL2210 I don't think you can. But you have an almost spotless record with only one short ban. I got more bans :) — Jean-François Fabre ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Payam Khaninejad
@Jean-FrançoisFabre you should make public this records for transpanacy! — Payam Khaninejad 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by fbueckert
Uh...I thought you were doing it for fun, not badges? There is no gold badge at 50; that's 1,000. You haven't hit that. — fbueckert 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jean-François Fabre
no. I'm making your records public because you seemed to imply there's some sort of injustice here. But you kept making incorrect reviews, and the system (not moderators) blocked you. Only the last ban was manual. — Jean-François Fabre ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Payam Khaninejad
@fbueckert yes still don't care about the badge! — Payam Khaninejad 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Payam Khaninejad
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I mean make it a feature — Payam Khaninejad 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by fbueckert
Then your comment doesn't make any sense, and I have no idea what you're trying to say. Not much point in mentioning badge thresholds if you don't care about them. — fbueckert 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Payam Khaninejad
@fbueckert I mean I am not regular reviewer I just do it in my free time and reached that point and it is huge progress but you people charge me for a poor review. that's not true. — Payam Khaninejad 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
"I think I won't review again despite this behavior." - not exactly clear what that part is trying to convey - "won't do X despite Y" usually used when Y is some sort of reward/encouragement... It's fine if you enjoy punishments, but the rest of the post does not seem to align with that... — Alexei Levenkov 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jean-François Fabre
no, we're not giving this information away to non-moderators. We don't want everyone to see everyone previous "faults" exposed. Unless someone asks for their own case. — Jean-François Fabre ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
@PayamKhaninejad you are welcome to post it as separate "feature-request" (also SE can't even make "show all my deleted posts" … so I'd not hold my breath for that feature) — Alexei Levenkov 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Don't Panic
Doesn't look like you went out of your way to hurt their feelings. Doesn't look like you went out of your way not to. Does the CoC expect you to do that? I don't really know. — Don't Panic 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martijn Pieters
Nah, I’m sure which ones are manual and which were automatic even with some of the bans having been done by ex-moderators :-D — Martijn Pieters ♦ 1 min ago
 
9:50 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Her Majesty Queen of ARC
First comment was posted before question was closed. It might never been closed. While it is no longer necessary after closure it gave initial feedback upon which OP could act. — Her Majesty Queen of ARC 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Yup, exactly. I would decline any "abuse/bigotry/harassment" or "unfriendly/unkind" flags if raised on these comments, but I would have no qualms about deleting them in response to NLN flags. These comments don't say anything useful. If reading the articles in the Help Center was going to help the person ask a better question, it would have already happened and we wouldn't be in this situation. If you want to post a targeted comment giving specific advice that is relevant to the question, then that's fine, and I'll argue against deletion. But overly generic comments are quite useless. — Cody Gray ♦ 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
An example of a targeted comment would be one that explained which aspects of that Help Center article apply in this case, pointing out why the question is not a good fit for Stack Overflow, and suggesting either revisions or a different place to ask (like, cough, Code Review). — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Travis J
While my answer addresses a different angle, I do also agree with this answer as well. — Travis J 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Her Majesty Queen of ARC
@MarkAmery There is "Be nice" policy and then there is "Pronoun policy". Be nice (Welcome Wagon) is from last year. — Her Majesty Queen of ARC 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Bingo. Worth noting that this is also a good strategy to help reduce the odds of burn-out. Whenever I come across a well-meaning user who keeps veering over into "non-constructive" territory in the comments they post, I strongly recommend that they just skip posting comments altogether on obviously hopeless questions. Cast your downvote, cast your close vote, and then go spend your time somewhere where it will be more valuable and have a greater impact. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by George Stocker
Sometimes moderators don't delete answers that are so new to give the OP time to fix them; othertimes moderators see that they're helpful and don't want to delete helpful content; othertimes moderators hit the 'helpful' button and move on. One of those "You're right but I'm not going to do anything" situations. Othertimes they hit helpful and forget to handle the flag. — George Stocker 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
"...until someone decided to cut you some slack by dividing it by 2..." Technically, no. That was an automatic ban issued upon failure of a review audit, so there wasn't a person involved. And the reason the ban duration is divided by 2 is because of the elapsed time between previous ban and this failure. April to September is almost 6 months, so there's some degree of forgiveness built into the system already. — Cody Gray ♦ 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Wai Ha Lee
It was deleted and undeleted by the answerer - validating your flag but leaving the answer there. — Wai Ha Lee 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MrBoJangles
I still don't know why someone would tell anyone what their preferred pronouns are. This seems like a remedial English consideration more than anything. Pronouns already work a certain way. — MrBoJangles 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by desertnaut
@GeorgeStocker thanks, but stepping-in yourself and literally transfiguring the answer to something completely different I guess is not one of the possible reasons. Can't actually figure out why you bothered to do so instead of posting a new answer yourself though - do you think it will be a good example for the respondent? — desertnaut 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by George Stocker
Funny enough the auto-bad-comment-flag-algorithm would have flagged both of your comments as 'unfriendly or unkind'. — George Stocker 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by George Stocker
@desertnaut I don't need the reputation myself; the OP came up with the link; all I did was take the bits from the link necessary to keep the answer around if the link died. One of the tenets of Stack Overflow is to edit answers to improve them; I'm just exercising that muscle. — George Stocker 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samuel Liew
"...but there is no learning, there is just punishing"? Did you click on the link in the review suspension message and read my answer there? Also, those who have previously read and acknowledge my answer had their review suspension lifted early. Isn't that fair enough? — Samuel Liew ♦ 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by desertnaut
Thanks @WaiHaLee. Do you mind posting this as an answer, so as to accept? — desertnaut 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
No, no, no. This can not be. Meta information does not belong in a post. That is what comments, edit summaries, and user profiles are for. — Peter Mortensen 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by duplode
"If you are going to leave a comment, then commit to the situation" is a terrific summary. — duplode 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Troyen
If you had put one extra word in the first comment: "Sorry, this isn't how Stack Overflow works. Read How do I ask a good question?" I wonder if the outcome would be any different. I don't think you were being insulting, but you do come off as abrasive. — Troyen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by P.P.
If anything, this "answer" confirms Monica was a victim and shows the apparent authoritarian ways of SE Inc. — P.P. 1 min ago
 
10:36 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
I would argue that this is a dupe, for example: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/268006/… or meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/310180/…. Both of these questions where asked before the whole "welcoming" stuff, but I don't think the general stance on this matter has changed. — Tom 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Davy M
"This question does not show any research effort. It is unclear or not useful." Two out of three, the downvotes are definitely called for. Downvotes aren't unwelcoming : "Can we make it more obvious to new users that downvotes on the main site are not insults and in fact can help them help themselves?". Closing is beneficial to the user, it gives them clear actionable feedback on their question: "How long should we wait for a poster to clarify a question before closing?"Davy M 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
How do you know the gender of that user? — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Wai Ha Lee
Thanks - have done. — Wai Ha Lee 1 min ago
 
10:56 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeroen Mostert
"Optimize for pearls, not sand." This could become a really nice Excel programming question, but not "with appropriate editing by OP". It would require someone digging in and putting up a really nice answer instead (this probably can't be done without some VBA, but I'm not enough of an Excel wizard to say for sure). I'd be disinclined to vote in either direction on this question -- the up and down pretty much cancel each other out -- but I don't think it's being unfairly singled out either. — Jeroen Mostert 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
@Troyen 'Sorry? .. two-faced patronising git, typical stack overflow, elitist users appearing nice while stabbing you in the back'. You cannot win, so may as well stick to plain facts without fluff. If anyone objects to that, they are psychologically incapable o programming computers anyway - the compiler/linker error messages,would provoke suicide. — Martin James 57 secs ago
 
11:16 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Troyen
@MartinJames The OP isn't the only audience. Many more people than just the OP read the question, see the interaction between the OP and the community and judge whether they want to participate based on the community's response. It's akin to showing someone the door when they missed the "no solicitations" sign instead of slamming it in their face. And I think a simple "sorry" is more likely to disarm an argument (or have no effect) than provoke a worse response. At six extra characters, it costs almost nothing. Not engaging costs even less. — Troyen 1 min ago
 
11:30 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jhpratt
Screenshot for non-10k users? — jhpratt 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Diamond moderators get notifications about posts that are deleted through review and then undeleted by the original poster, but that's the only case in which we are notified. A single flag isn't sufficient. Please re-flag these if you see them. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by the Tin Man
Personally I think answers like those are in the way of delivering the content; SO isn't a rag publication, it's where people come to solve a problem, most of the time for work. Informal, friendly, respectful, helpful, educational are terms I have in mind when answering. Occasionally I'll wander toward humor for a sentence but providing useful content is the primary reason I answer, not to hear myself talk. I also try to write clearly and concisely and in terms that non-English speakers can follow. It's hard enough to program, why inflict inane verbosity on someone struggling to understand. — the Tin Man just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by pppery
Voting to reopen because this question is asking how to make a post community wiki, and the duplicated appear to be asking why one would do so. — pppery 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
[ Boson ] New comment posted by K.Dᴀᴠɪs
Excellent update. In 99.99999% of cases this should never be even remotely relevant - at least not in SO. Like I and many others have said, put them where they belong - in your name or profile. This shows me that SO has the ability to listen to its community. — K.Dᴀᴠɪs 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yvette Colomb
Please do this on meta and MSE — Yvette Colomb 1 min ago
 

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