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03:54
reads a book
"Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. Don't be trapped by dogma - which is living with the results of other people's thinking. Don't let the noise of other's opinions drown out your own inner voice. And most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. They somehow already know what you truly want to become. Everything else is secondary." -Steve Jobs [(source)](theysaidso.com/quote/RmGoiti7Oqz4LFSHrM_dIAeF/…
 
1 hour later…
05:06
morning guys :)
where is @ChewCat and @TCat ?
Good morning.
@AshuKumar Worked with FCM PLugin for cordova ?
Firebase cloud messaging
@BatCat fcm worked , butt but with cordova
nope
morning :)
05:25
Ok..
Thanks !
05:37
good morning cats
morning @jagapathi :)
@AshuKumar after long time
@jagapathi nope, i think u r comign late
nah never visited chat last 3 days
busy with deadlines
06:20
okay, how is going work
 
2 hours later…
07:53
hi
hello
@asifa today working ?
ya
how u
good and you ?
07:58
good
can u pls help me
-1
Q: unable to generate release apk android

asifaI am unable to generate signed apk. The app debugs and runs fine but signed apk is not generated. If I do minifyEnabled false the signed apk is generated. buildTypes { debug { debuggable false } release { minifyEnabled true shrinkResources true ...

checking
i think enabling minifyEnabled : some files are not including in building time
check which library is depend on other library
@AshuKumar pls check
now
08:14
@ChewCat
@ChewCat ping pong
@asifa the solution is in a link in the stacktrace
 
2 hours later…
10:14
@AshuKumar
@LunarWatcher
@TCat what r u doing now
u was fired na :P
@TCat is bored
lol
boring day so
10:48
go outside and enjoy the day
11:08
lol
Nik
Nik
Hi all,
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DoggyBot online. Woof woof!
Nik
Nik
can any one help in this?
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45770551/fetching-xlsx-document-using-mediastore-not-working-in-some-device
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@Nik Remember to read the rules before you break them ;) Woof woof!
@DoggyBot are the odds 9/10?
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11:13
@LunarWatcher I refuse to answer
@DoggyBot It was just confirmed
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@LunarWatcher Type //help to see all my commands.
@DoggyBot why don't I just shove a neural network into you so you can actually reply with some sense?
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@LunarWatcher You did it, so you tell me
@DoggyBot I haven't done it yet
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11:16
@LunarWatcher Type //help to see all my commands.
sigh
@DoggyBot when will you learn?
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@LunarWatcher Definitively not
facepalm
WHEN not WILL
@DoggyBot when do I get my dollar?
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@LunarWatcher But of course
YOu know what? That's it
@DoggyBot It is about time you get some common sense - I'm shoving a neural network into your source
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11:19
@LunarWatcher Indisputably
@DoggyBot at least you don't disagree with that
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@LunarWatcher Type //help to see all my commands.
facepalm
This is what happens when you have nothing better to do @TCat - you end up in a discussion with someone or something about something that leads to that leads to that leads to you having something to do
OK @DoggyBot
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@LunarWatcher Good
you need to carry context
How the hell do I carry context in a conversation
ChatContext?
Naw, used by OakBot framework already
No
That was BotContext
This would be static
Containing a List of Conversations
Which contains a List of the last 20 messages
And user ID and username
I still need a neural net
@DoggyBot How else will you know how and what to answer?
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11:28
@LunarWatcher I think so
Improving the system will at least make it better than it is now, replying you think so on a "how" question
@DoggyBot how
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@LunarWatcher I don't know
sigh
No wonder you can't reply properly
The responses aren't built in a good way
having "who" and other question words trigger first is a terrible idea
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Yeah
It just means it finds question words and ignores other content
and why are there duplicates down the wall of if-statements?
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11:32
@LunarWatcher Because you made crappy code
That much is obvious
So now I'm gonna fix it
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Somehow
There is not a single neural net in Java
Everything is in python
A language where wrong indentation kills
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A single line indented wrong screws up the code
Ok
so what do I do
Chat
fairly easy
Should be at least, but then again I couldn't even predict the next number in a sequence when I tried that
Ok
If I check the relationship between when words are used and what replies in what chat context
I should be able to construct a proper reply
But I need test data
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11:35
Not gonna use this room or any other SO/SE chat room, it is filled with bad english, other languages and people asking questions that get closed very often
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still though, could be good to have question asking included too
No
You're still a bot
Learning you Android, java, programming and debugging in addition to chatting I would spend years
GAN and CNN doesn't work, those are image based
CBLSTM too
(looking aside the Python part)
That repo has todo's in output so that doesn't work
That's LUA
Ok, so to get this to work I have to create a ML framework
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Don't look at me, I have no clue how to make one
And while I'm at it, I should create a pair of eyes for you @DoggyBot so you know when someone is looking and not
idiotic bot
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It was a mistake, I thought you were there and holy shit sockets may mean I get a streak :D
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11:42
I was here yesterday, right
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yeah
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no
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no streak for me
Well, how does a neural net work
I need to convert the training data into .tbtd
I need to learn you to talk
I guess I have to start in the console
One does not simply TEACH a bot to SPEAK freely
Would be kinda fun if you actually became the first AI to think freely
That would mean constant thinking though
Hm......
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How about:
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11:47
Training data -------------------------> resolver -> Check against highlighted training data
Highlighted training data -|
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And the output gets inserted into logic learning the resolver what to look for
It needs to learn grammar too though
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With enough training data I can probably get it to speak so good english it ends up better than most americans
There's the problem
How do I get training data
I need at least 1000 samples
Gonna go nuts if I have to write fictive chats 1000 times
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Humans and their emotions....
11:49
kicks @DoggyBot
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Ouch! What did you do that fo..... oh
"Humans and their emotions" my ass
Alternative:
It gets a set with predefined meanings
the basics, yes, no, hello, goodbye, etc
HashMap<Word, Meaning>
We start with 20 cycles of training data to give it time to figure out sentence arrangement
then kick in a generator allowing the bot to generate its own sentences and compare it to that of the training data
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Yes! And with the result of the comparison helps it create a list of good and bad samples
And the samples can then be reused later to tell the bot what bad examples are to teach it more efficiently
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How many lines though
11:53
The ML framework would be around 2000 alone excluding file writing
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Excluding file writing and reading, data parsing and conversions
I need a highlighting syntax though
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XML format could work
<sentence>
    <word class=""></word>
    <sentencetype></sentencetype>
</sentence>
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Throw in good samples and bad samples
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11:55
And that's another 500 lines in .txt to .xml conversion
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I would like a custom format though
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.xmltd
Sure
It's like learning a new language!
Feed it basic words first
with meaning
then feed it training data with those words having proper grammar and starting to have sentence meanings
@asifa yup thats how human learns
Every other cycle feed it another word
11:57
i thought similar for my bot
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Par = word, odd = sentence?
Sure
Excluding 20 first
Feed it 5 words each time, 100 words the first 20 cycles
@AshuKumar lol most of the chat today is between me and me logged in as doggybot
@LunarWatcher :O u r DoggyBot ?
:D
i thought bot is doing good
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I haven't started yet
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I got pissed when replies to "why" ended with "yes"
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12:03
+ my recent interest in machine learning but not knowing how it works pushed me over the edge towards making a neural network chatbot
@DoggyBot personality.
Age, seriousness, diagnoses, interests and other personal traits
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Hard-coded
yup
I'd like to say I'm glad we are on the same side, but then I remember I'm talking to myself xD
@AshuKumar yes, for now
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What about learning after the model is finished?
There's that
I have no chance in hell of learning it every single word and thing
And it needs to be able to learn jargon and things in programming
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12:06
I think we need feelings too
Yeah
We need a sentence identifier called mood
But XML
@LunarWatcher :P
.xmltd is boring, especially given the model would be .xmlmd
@AshuKumar it's better to talk to myself over two accounts (luckily I have a bot account too)
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@LunarWatcher .dogtd and .dogmd?
Getting better
but it wouldn't be universally applicable if someone takes the source and uses it in a cat bot
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12:09
That's their problem
@LunarWatcher hahah yes its good :) there is dialog in Hindi movie : when i need experienced person suggestion than i talk to my self
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If they want to make a dog bot into a cat bot they can find their own file endings
@AshuKumar I talk to myself a lot too (more coming on this one)
@DoggyBot talking to one self
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gotcha, personality?
sure
@AshuKumar I talk a lot to myself when I need to think about something, it is something about hearing a voice that triggers responses
(at least to me)
@DoggyBot what about debug data
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12:11
We need to check success percentage
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and progress
How is success-percentage calculated?
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How well generated data matches training data
@LunarWatcher it is technique of self internal voice hearing :D
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Function: Takes words into a List of meanings. Words with multiple meanings should have a List of meanings
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12:12
A class
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That should work
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@AshuKumar In conversations, you end up replying without thinking a lot about replies, I guess that is why talking to one self works.
@Joe'sMorgue how are the corpses today? :P
@DoggyBot yeah, i used daily when i m going to bed for sleep
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So
12:14
i m thinking and speaking how and where and when : things will done
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The bot learns words the first 20 cycles
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@AshuKumar I do that when I plan things (at least the applicable ones)
i m thinking to write a bot that can learn first basic and some simple question :)
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After that it learns words every par cycle and sentence construction every odd cycle
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Take the words into a List
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12:15
take grammar rules into a different list
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after 10 more cycles produce output
@DoggyBot total 40+ cycles?
And hopefully this process will not hog 90% of my processor and forcing me to boost the fan
@AshuKumar 30 cycles until output
what you are you working on ?
The actual training time can be anything from 30 cycles to a billion
12:17
Doing...
Still unloading the car from my trip
@Joe'sMorgue Welcome back
@Joe'sMorgue morning :)
and good morning
Thank you, and thank you
what u brought for me @Joe'sMorgue :D
12:17
@AshuKumar What I'm working on is creating a neural network for a chatbot
I'm going to implement it into DoggyBot eventually
@LunarWatcher OKay and are u doing job or u have ur own company ?
.dtdata .dmodel @DoggyBot
@LunarWatcher cool!
@AshuKumar This is for fun
@LunarWatcher yeah,
are you doing any job ?
12:19
(and learning how to make neural networks)
I make games when not in school @AshuKumar
It would be awesome to implement a neural network as an AI in there when I come to think of it
A game where the AI evolves with your progress
Would need basic skills though
anyways
@DoggyBot Kotlin
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Up to medium classes only that needs null-safety
I'm glad that we agree, believe me
That's a big relief
@LunarWatcher yup it is realy awesome when result come as expected from a bot :D
Creating a neural net though
in Java
@LunarWatcher is this for me ?
awesome!
12:22
(moving to DoggyBot, getting a high rate between messages here)
@LunarWatcher so u r professor ?
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@AshuKumar Creating a neural net in Java is hard because I have to create the framework
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@AshuKumar No
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I go to school as a student (technically not going yet, it starts again on monday)
@DoggyBot are u student ?
12:23
@AshuKumar I brought you a whole pile of bills!
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19 secs ago, by DoggyBot
I go to school as a student (technically not going yet, it starts again on monday)
@DoggyBot are any pieces missing?
@Joe'sMorgue LOL send me though i m not gonna pay ,:D they wil call u again and ask u more than bill :D
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How about model format?
Serializable
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12:24
And shove it into a file? Sounds good
...*<sniff>* You don't appreciate my gifts...
Were you guys here when a mod broke chat yesterday? @AshuKumar @Joe'sMorgue
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@LunarWatcher remove this song from the playlist
@LunarWatcher nope when it happpend?
12:25
Lemme find the meta posts
6
Q: chat is redirecting to area51, wtf?

wimWhen I try to access chat I get a redirection to area51: $ curl chat.stackoverflow.com/ <html><head><title>Object moved</title></head><body> <h2>Object moved to <a href="https://area51.stackexchange.com/">here</a>.</h2> </body></html>

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A: Going to chat.stackexchange.com takes me to Area 51?

HaneyI broke it. I just unbroke it. Sorry!

@Joe'sMorgue hahaha that's not gifts
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@LunarWatcher now
@DoggyBot right
Sure they are!
That would be the best thing [for me]
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12:28
I'm glad that we agree, believe me xD
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JOKES
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and sarcasm and irony
right
I guess a type of input data?
XML may not be so good after all though
how about a .properties based file type using HTML/XML tags for highlighting
no
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No sentence type :/
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12:30
I think I have the .hd5f's somewhere
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Time to sneak peak a bit
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well shit
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8276 lines of nonsense
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Could be serialized
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no, serializing training data isn't something they did
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12:32
but they did
You are right
pre-processing
If they changed the size of the images and converted the images into a list
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then serialized the class
Internal jokes too btw
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yeah
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I'm moving this discussion to a new room, kinda chokes other chats in here
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12:34
lol, SO thinks this is a discussion about R xD
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Convert letters to numbers
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Space is -1
(@Joe'sMorgue @AshuKumar you can join the room if you want, I'll grant write access)
I opened it
Requested access
@LunarWatcher yes
sent
12:42
It is granted
13:07
bye :)
13:24
silence
 
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14:31
Posted in wrong room, had to move it
 
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20:31
farts

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