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00:54
thanks!
 
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01:55
yesterday, by Martijn Pieters
I'm just here for the popcorn, and Undo's primaries page.
02:08
@MartijnPieters great, so it isn't just me then :D
02:22
G'Mornin
@coldspeed, add me to the list as well...
Looks like it is a Python room fad? ;p
Haha, perhaps. Albeit the sample is biased
You shouldn't talk about the biases, when it is biased in favor of you.
> Dad: Hey Rick, Ben's dad told me that the Math teacher was biased towards some students. Why didn't you tell me?
> Rick: Because she was biased in favor of me.
That one is a really old joke. :D
fair enough :p
03:23
o/
 
2 hours later…
05:19
a simple question: How do I cast the vote?
05:52
what are the basic necessities to apply for moderator?
You need 3000 reputation and 4 selected badges
That is Civic Duty, Strunk & White, Deputy and Convention.
alright, thank you for the information. :)
You're welcome :)
06:32
what if i have 22XX rep ?
Then you'll need to wait till 3k
Simple ;)
shukrant
06:51
any personal preferences while voting ?
Yeah, you're free to vote based on your personal preference...
How do i cast my vote?
Then up/down vote the candidates you like/dislike
@BhargavRao Thanks :)
@BhargavRao how come people find the chatroom but not the vote buttons? I'm really wondering.
07:01
Thanks for voting!
@BhargavRao keep that stackoverflow.com/election/11 link in your clipboard all day. Don't use clipboard all day for anything else.
@Jean-FrançoisFabre The instructions are in the side bar. The side bar goes underneath the list of nominations on phone
I type out the links, easier that way. ;)
trains your memory.
and your fingers.
free exercise doesn't hurt.
Yeah..
@Jean-FrançoisFabre lol, confusing is the like/dislike thing. Got to know that IT is the actual vote
07:04
but this is not the real election right? just the primary if im not mistaken
@AownRaza that's because it's the primary. Yes, they reused the "up/down" layout of the questions. I agree with that.
This is only the first phase... In the second (final) phase, you can choose the top 3 you like..
You cannot have more for 70 million $ site development, sorry.
@Nuhman Correct!
not the real elections, but results tend to reproduce in this short period of time
at least I certainly hope so :)
For Baum I mean :)
07:05
Yeah yeah, I know what you mean ;)
Always on the lookout for others, that's me
... and smack em when they're over confident.
Baum mit Augen
like the bunny and tortoise..
Baum is both the bunny and the tortoise.
(that's a french tale BTW)
07:08
let's hope it isn't a bunny-tortoise race, though.
Ah, good to know!
If by French tale, you mean Ancient Greek, sure...
I thought it was from Aesop's Fables
But didn't know it was from France
3 seconds of culture in this brutal world: la-fontaine-ch-thierry.net/lievtort.htm :)
for those whose french is deficient, some pics 😀 google.com/…
(sorry damn google link)
07:11
/s/deficient/nonexistent
Google Translate says the last line is "If you were wearing a house?"
The only French I remember is from that one day I sat in French class as Third language in school. (6th grade).
Pretty sure that can't be right
sorry, dug out an english link: blogs.transparent.com/french/…
If you were wearing a house?: probably relates to the tortoise wearing the shell/house on its back.
That's what I figured
how do you rate these primaries, based on their score?
07:13
Yeah.
The top 10 out of 11 progress to the next phase
What happens to number 11?
Will there be a public tarring and feathering?
Nope, they'll have to wait till the next elections to contest ..
They can again try their luck and then if they manage to, can go on to the next phase
When is the tarring and feathering?
So who is winning today?
That comes later. ;)
@DecoderReloaded the elections end next monday, so no one :p
07:18
Bhargav and I are winning. That's why our names are in blue.
We're all winners! \o/
Ah, let's not get ahead of ourself here. People have dropped by some ranks in the final election on a regular basis. I'll still need every vote I can get in the next round.
We all start from zero.
@BhargavRao False. If everyone won, then it would be a tie.
Damn, then we need some losers... :(
That's why we have elections
07:28
Hey all, Hey Bhargav, from which college did you graduate?
Uhm, ... you want everyone to say their college? ...
No, you are the first one I want to say his college 😅
the "Hey all" at the start threw me off....
Or probably the only one
I did my undergrad from PES University in Bangalore.
07:30
You don't care about me? :-(
:'(
#NoOneLovesCody
@CodyGray I do, but you're not from india, so I'll not be able to recognise your college.
That's a great College
@Zlytherin You can't recognize Harvard University? ...
Damm. I can!!
Which is why we shouldn't assume things...
07:32
That's Amazing!!! @CodyGray
Now you're assuming stuff again.
Lol
But I didn't say that that's amazing because he's from Harvard
😅
@BhargavRao have we not managed to convert you to java yet :)
Who went to Harvard?
Nah, you guys still lazy
07:35
Isn't that one of those Java schools? ;-)
Haven't yet morphed into a cyborg..
We will have to continue to re-program you then...
Yeah, you need to reinstall the updates.
first we will run sudo apt purge python2.x-minimal
^^ code copy and pasted from SO, so surely that will work
Eeew
Python2
Did you copy paste from the question or from the answer?
07:39
Lol
Both
I also copied and pasted from a PHP question just for good measure
One of 'em has gotta work.
yeah just run'em on after the other....
Yeah, can agree with that.
Copying PHP always works.
even if I program in java?
Yep
In fact it is encouraged
07:43
ok thanks, then I will continue to fix my flight control system at Boeing.
wow nice, almost better then tanks in advantage!
Certainly.
Hi all
07:49
am pleasure to have a member in stack overflow
That's nice to know. :)
08:01
How are the candidates ordered here stackoverflow.com/election/11? They are not ordered by votes.
@Zlytherin Random sort, each time you load the page. Keeps things fair.
Ahh, I see
Thanks
08:15
Hey Candidates, what are your views about this comment. Is it NLN?
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Q: Is it normal to keep fun or chatty comments selectively on Meta?

FarsideOn Meta, sometimes, there are huge discussions in comments, which are personal, chatty, or just for keeping the fun, rather than being constructive in relation to specific topic/question/answer. I'm wondering, is it higher tolerance on some topics (the latest example could be Election RESULTS) w...

Tl;Dr don't flag comments on meta the same way as you flag on main.
Ohh, Gotcha
08:59
Hi all
user2964812
09:49
The cruel
@ThomasRiedel What's cruel?
little rats bit the cable.
I suspect there's more behind that comment, @BhargavRao, considering Thomas' recent meta posts.
Ah damn, didn't see meta. Thanks for letting me know.
So, @ThomasRiedel, care to elaborate?
10:07
Where do I vote?
On the button that says "Cerbrus 4 mod", @rene
Okay, done!
That was easy
I don't feel any different :-/
Just wait, in the next few days you'll slowly turn blue
are your feet, blue?
10:24
There is only one bluefeet which should not be messed with.
11:35
Ola
Ola would be a great candidate but she's not running this year
Hey !
12:23
@StephenKennedy never presume gender from a name :)
@PetterFriberg Fair point! (I was thinking specifically of this Ola - TIL it's not her given name)
12:58
Goodluck @SterlingArcher
:-)
13:08
How do I cast a vote?
Zoe
Zoe
Mar 5 at 19:01, by Undo
Go here to vote.
The votes are basically like up- and downvotes (without rep gain/loss)
@Zoe thank you very much
Bear in mind this is just the primary. You'll get another chance to vote in the final phase.
Zoe
Zoe
Oh, and the final phase votes are also different. No downvotes there
@Zoe Well, maybe. Sterling can be vindictive if he finds out you downvoted him
13:16
The final voting is based on the Meek STV system... it's difficult to explain but it's a sensible system
Zoe
Zoe
@Machavity I've actually only downvoted one nominee, and it wasn't sterling :')
@JonClements I've always found the system we use to be more like this. People get elected, but it's not really clear how
@Zoe The "fox" thing was just a joke, let it go :P
Zoe
Zoe
@StephenKennedy Wasn't Machavity either.
13:26
@Zoe You shouldn't be so hard on yourself. I mean, it clearly isn't the best nomination, but no need to downvote it, at least you tried
Zoe
Zoe
Wait, what?
Just kidding of course
Don't know if you even can downvote your own nomination
Zoe
Zoe
Oooh ^^"
You can't
You can't upvote either
ZoeBot Assassination Mode disabled
Zoe
Zoe
With a gap of 372 votes, the assassination mode isn't disabled yet ;)
13:32
@StephenKennedy See, i figured Zoe would want to be a fox here, because we tried the wolf thing and didn't work out
And it seems to be working. Solid #5 and closing in on #4
@Machavity Ah, good thinking :)
The "closing in on #4" looks to be like starting a 24 hour race a lap down and (perhaps) catching the guy on the final lap
4th or 5th doesn't really matter, it's the top 10 who go through to the next round... :)
Never underestimate bragging rights!
Yup, and that race looks pretty done from the start to me. I couldn't imagine Arpit and Sterling swapping places, and beyond that there's a huge gap
Zoe
Zoe
@Machavity Awoo?
13:39
@DavidG Maybe, but the bulk of the gaps are not downvotes, but people not voting for candidates. Honestly, the downvotes are almost irrelevant. Baum has had nearly 4x more people vote for him.
In order for, say, myself to win, I'd have to believe that most of the Baum-only voters aren't going to vote and that there's a huge number of non-primary voters who will vote for me
@Machavity STV does strange things :)
^^ this
Zoe
Zoe
I have 539 downvotes, coldspeed as 541. The difference in how many votes go on each of the nominations is the main reason for the gap for most of the nominees.
@Zoe Even counting that, tho, you've had more voters overall
13:43
@Machavity umm... still depends how vote transfers and how the first candidate reaches the treshold though?
@JonClements Incidentally, the part of STV I never quite get is how "unused" votes for the winner(s) are selected
Zoe
Zoe
Baum has over 11k voters total (unique voters, not upvotes), I have roughly 6k, you have about 4k. Like I said, the vote gap is mainly from a difference in vote count and not downvotes. And for context, Baum has 202 downvoters.
nods yes, I can see how that might confuse some people
Zoe
Zoe
There's still a lot that can change in the actual election though
For instance the 2018 election lost me in Round 8. How did it determine who was "surplus" in the last 5 rounds?
13:49
@Machavity some mean value.., just make sure you are "second" choice for all voters and you are home free :)
Zoe
Zoe
@Machavity SVT works in mysterious ways~
It's complicated, but what it boils down to is: magic
I'm actually really interested to see how it will work with many somewhat similar candidates. I expect more votes will get exhausted than previous elections and that favoring diversity, but we'll see.
@ErikA I fear it may be a "damp squid" ((c) IT Crowd) with only 2 slots. If there were 3 slots it could be as fascinating (and mind-boggling) as last time
Zoe
Zoe
@StephenKennedy -1, not meme-y enough ;)
13:57
@Zoe ZOE, Y U NO GET MORE VOTES
@StephenKennedy Basically
Zoe
Zoe
@StephenKennedy -1, too meme-y
2018 was wild, though, ending with an 18-vote difference between Brett and Yvette in the last relevant round
Zoe
Zoe
Damn image proxies >.>
@StephenKennedy ^
See? He's even wearing a Stack Overflow unicorn T-shirt! </conspiracy>
Zoe
Zoe
14:00
SO, it's a conspiracy, huh? :p
@StephenKennedy At least I'm still keeping up
I'm proud to announce that the UK has set a 0% tariff on unicorn imports
Zoe
Zoe
I'll take 42.
@Zoe I can barely contain my excitement
@StephenKennedy I heard Ireland will still be allowed to freely trade unicorn parts after Brexit. Animal rights activists were angry until the Irish PM announced he had a Shillelagh and the small mob ran off
Zoe
Zoe
It's staying at more or less 371, so that's at least good
@Machavity Oh, that's old news. Those activists replaced the Irish PM with a unicorn. :p
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14:27
@Zoe I've deleted that message as it's just an annoyance I'm afraid... and while funny - not needed in the election room. Sorry.
We really lack a collapse/turn off GIF in chat :(
"this site has spent massive efforts conveying to us that [comments] are ephemeral, but the moment a mod shoves the comments into chat, they become permanent" - that's a good point
Zoe
Zoe
14:42
@JonClements right, shouldn't have oneboxed it xd
Sorry about that
Chat is infinite, chat is eternal
(length limits are client-side only iirc)
Zoe
Zoe
Length limit also disappears if you add a newline
14:59
I'm banned from posting question, I tried to edit my question but stackoverflow system tells me that I have 10 edits and I need the moderator support... I'm very annoyed by this mechanism... moderators should help not only blocking users, this politic nobody grows...
hey hey, wait
system blocks you
not moderators
we have no button to unblock
or to block
Ok
system need to be revised
it provides some help to get back on track!
Alessandro, Italy
314 1 4
I edited some of my answers and questions but the ban remains
Wait for 1 or 2 days..
15:08
6 to 8 ...
Yeah, that will guarantee it..
I have 17 badges but in summary profile I can see only 4
you are on your meta profile...
ahh ok
crystal ball thingzzz
15:10
according to that said if I wait some days then my account will back usable?
depends on how much deleted stuff you have...
check the meta to learn more.
Deleted Recent Questions
No deleted recent questions
I only have 5 or 6 deleted questions
in the past
@Alessandro You can only view your recently deleted ones. Mods can help with that, if you want to be sure you can ask a mod for a list. If they have many downvotes, that can already make a substantial difference
@Erik A how contact a Mod?
I have not downvotes
only small upvotes
if you don't just wait and hope, if you do, just start using google more almost all questions have already been answered.
15:16
Well, there are many in this very chat, they might notice this conversation and help. I have good faith that will happen, else you can always modflag one of your own questions or answers and explain the situation
users forget to mark the answer as solved so my help is useless
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/52972403/wysiwyp-firefox-63-prints-pages-of-my-website-with-blank-spaces-or-broken-page,
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/49698192/password-verify-and-password-hash-mismatch-on-php-7-2-solved,
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/45564229/php-7-1-sqlite-avoid-race-condition-and-make-safe-external-values,
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/39751152/cv-stackoverflow-how-delete-my-cv-on-stackoverflow,
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/38805570/php-7-custom-wordwrap-function-preserving-html-written-in-php-produces-warning
The latest 5
@ErikA There's a userscript to minimize images, gifs, etc., but, obviously, that only affects the person running it. Note: I haven't actually tested the userscript.
@Alessandro Your help is not useless, even if it wasn't accepted.
@BhargavRao You're a helpful guy. Can I vote for you?
15:18
Who's Baum mit Augen and why is he so great
a tree with eyes... what could be better...
@StephenKennedy Aww, thanks, but I'm not standing for elections..
Your answers also help many more people when they come looking for answers and don't even have to ask a question.
:( Maybe next year then
@BhargavRao You are banned from standing for election :P
15:19
@SuperStew Check the profile page, nomination post etc. It's a friend of mine on SO so I'm not objective. I will just say it's a nice guy that is interested and have experience in moderation.
@PetterFriberg but will he even cast out the heretics?
5 deleted questions in the past for me?
There are more ... but just back from work, so kinda tired to dig them up..
users that have a score of 1 or 3 cannot mark as solved the question answered by me, I had to explain how to vote
That's good!
15:22
@SuperStew You will have to ask him
Teaching new users how to vote is a good job. Thank you!
@BaummitAugen WILL YOU DRIVE OUT THE HERETICS?
I've Tested that Script Before. I'm Used to (m-d-Y)., and was by Mistake Adding Ages via that Format, and that Was Messing It Up. Is there a Way to Change (Y-m-d) to the (m-d-Y) Format? :--) — TipTop 8 hours ago
@Alessandro Question authors can always mark an answer as accepted. OTOH, they can't up-vote until they have 15 reputation points. However, there are times when they need to wait in order to accept an answer. However, for answers that are not their own, that is a short period of time (minutes, IIRC).
TipTop voted my answer but cannot mark as solved his question using my answer
15:25
@SuperStew I think he has a bold 3 step plan for that
ahh oky
I didn't know this limit
thanks
@Machavity cool. i like plans with less than 5 steps
You are very kindly
thanks at all
Thank you for coming to chat and talking :)
have a very nice day :)
glad to chat with you
15:27
Thanks. You too..
I gotta go.. bye \o
sorry I have only a question... If I continue help other users Can I back to post question?
Will be counted my help?
@Alessandro we don't know the ruels they are secret, but probably reputation counts.
Ok thanks you
@Alessandro Editing your old, closed questions can help. But answering some questions well will raise your reputation. Being low rep means it's more likely you get hit with a ban
Ok you are clear, now I know as move myself
15:33
@Machavity is there a general consensus of where the "low rep" cut off line is? Like at what point do mods hesitate at banning you?
They never hesitate to ban you, that those not depend on rep, I hope.
Zoe
Zoe
^
@SuperStew Mods don't question or answer ban. As far as other bans, that's entirely dependent upon your behavior. Behave badly and you might get some time away from the site
I know a 100k+ user who has had multiple bans, sometimes for a year
@Machavity Sure, but surely high rep gets you a bit extra leeway?
It was nice to chat with you now I have to go, I hope to come back soon, have fun
Zoe
Zoe
15:35
@SuperStew Not really.
@SuperStew Nope. I've issues suspensions for a wide range of reputation levels.
@Alessandro Arrivederci
arrivederci :)
But even at like Jon Skeet tier?
sure, but Jon knows how to behave, that's why he's great
15:36
@SuperStew I hate to link to specific users, but the answer there is no
right, but this is just hypothetical.
Zoe
Zoe
When it comes to mod actions, you could pass Jon Skeet as soon as possible (idk the timeframe tbh xd) and you'd still receive the same punishment if you do something worth a suspension
Or a warning for that matter
how discouraging
Zoe
Zoe
I'd rather say that's encouraging
The only difference I know is if you write ">SADçLJSDFSFLJ" in the answer box, if you are registred users with some posts (50 rep) I would flag NAA, if instead an unregistred user I would nuke it as abusive.
15:38
Discouraging? I wouldn't want rude or abusive users at any rep level
Zoe
Zoe
It also means a 100k rep user can't violate the code of conduct and actually get away with it...
@Andy not sure if I agreed with that one... but yeah.
Why would reputation get you more leeway? if you break the rules, you get penalized. It's not fair to bend them just because someone's been around for a while.
@zoe yea i know, half the reason i try to get rep is to be able to do more shenanigans
15:40
@PetterFriberg Not saying you had to agree, just that it was done.
@Machavity i mean, it's pretty fun
though... in a sense that does occur with the question ban i guess
sure, just as far as we know he only deleted answers (because no feedback)... but yeah considering all his answer, it seemed almost like he could be allowed to do that.
Zoe
Zoe
@SuperStew Yeah, that won't get you specifically far.
once you're past a certain amount of positive posts it'd be rather difficult to get into the negative
15:43
@SuperStew I'll lead them to live a righteous life on this site.
@BaummitAugen booo BURN THEM
Trees don't like fire...
Ah, lost son and all. If they heed my word, they may live. =D
Otherwise, out with the pitchforks.
And if they don't, may a tree fall on them
Zoe
Zoe
Is it Baum's fault whenever a tree falls? :p
15:47
If a tree moderator falls upon a user, and nobody complains on Meta, does it make a sound?
yeah because the user was wearing a hard-hat?
Says the underwater robot man
I was just guessing...
Zoe
Zoe
16:07
@Machavity it does make a sound, but it doesn't make those sounds complaints ;)
@Machavity or maybe the man with hard hat is to blame that the tree fell?
Zoe
Zoe
@PetterFriberg I think I saw an axe somewhere too!!
chain saws... all kind of stuff in those pockets
@PetterFriberg I can neither confirm nor deny if I own an AT-ST
3
lol... time to change avatar... I suggest this Mac vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/e/e9/…
16:17
I'm sure the site will do well with the results of the election. I'll be happy to see that someone will be watching the forest, despite the trees.
And, about time the tree got elected, too.
Zoe
Zoe
That reminds me I need to check the gap again :*
329 owo
@Zoe I wish you'd hit the campaign trail and collect a few thousand more votes between now and the final tally.
Zoe
Zoe
I'm not good with campaigning tbh.
Didn't spend enough on the TV campaign, I'm afraid
I wonder if it is allowed to by an ad on SE...
16:23
Thanks! :)
Haven't won yet, though.
@StephenKennedy Might have been a bit off message too
Zoe
Zoe
Yeah, my budget just didn't allow for a TV campaign @StephenKennedy :/ Got $0 left of my huge budget of $0
At least it was spent wisely.
Zoe
Zoe
Yeah xD
16:47
@Zoe Do you possibly happen to have a secret legion of voters you're not telling us about?
Zoe
Zoe
@coldspeed If I do, I don't know about it either :')
Polar regions (ice) block vote?
They're probably still waking up after the polar light ended. Maybe we'll see them in the election
^ I ninjad but I like yours better :)
user3956566
16:53
@BaummitAugen it looks good though. It makes sense as you came so close in the previous elections :)
Zoe
Zoe
@StephenKennedy Actually, not that I come to think of it, I did ally myself with the northern pole. I didn't expect them to be this slow though :p
Are we going to see a polarized election?
2
Zoe
Zoe
We would have if Baum didn't bring it to the equator.
@Machavity thanks for the heads up. I can't chat when I'm at work. Some really feel like I'm the only responsible for the sometimes heated/dismissive comments we see on meta...
Zoe
Zoe
It's nice to see there's still votes though ^^"
16:59
@YvetteColomb STV can throw up weird results ...
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