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user3956566
12:00 AM
is he serious or is that his sense of humour?
 
@YvetteColomb I hate to say it, but I think he's serious
 
Oh, he's serious.
TempleOS is well-known.
TempleOS (formerly J Operating System, SparrowOS and LoseThos) is a biblical-themed lightweight operating system designed to be the Third Temple prophesied in the Bible. It was created by American programmer Terry A. Davis, who developed it alone over the course of a decade after a series of episodes that he later described as a revelation from God. The system was characterized as a modern x86-64 Commodore 64, using an interface similar to a mixture of DOS and Turbo C. Davis proclaimed that the system's features, such as its 640x480 resolution, 16-color display and single audio voice, were explicitly...
Seems like the guy was killed 😞 thedalleschronicle.com/news/local/…
 
user3956566
@MadaraUchiha so sad.
 
@MadaraUchiha That link gives me 451: Unavailable due to legal reasons!
 
Really? :o
Wow
 
12:08 AM
@DavidG Where in the world are you?
 
>We recognize you are attempting to access this website from a country belonging to the European Economic Area (EEA) including the EU which enforces the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and therefore access cannot be granted at this time. For any issues, contact tdchron@thedalleschronicle.com or call 541-296-2141.
 
lol
 
@DavidG Ha! rekt.
 
Ha thanks. That has to be the laziest form of GDPR compliance though.
 
maybe so, but it's effective
 
12:11 AM
@DavidG Something similar happened here in Israel
Legislator forced public service websites to become accessible (readable by screen readers, good contrasts, etc)
 
user3956566
@DavidG I don't understand how the article was related to that. wow
 
@YvetteColomb It's not the article, it's the entire site
 
Public services that could not afford simply moved their services behind a paywall
So now it's no longer a public service, and it's not under obligation to make it accessible
 
 
1 hour later…
1:23 AM
@Script47 There's at least a couple of SEDE queries which will give you your candidate score. Of the two I know of, I'd prefer: Candidate score
 
 
1 hour later…
2:47 AM
Wow, first election for me
 
3:13 AM
@MadaraUchiha That's a sad story. I knew about the strange TempleOS, but not of its maker's demise. Thanks for sharing the article with us GDPR types.
 
3:42 AM
Looks like most people are commenting on the questions page, whereas I've been commenting under the nominations. That's awkward :/
 
user3956566
@rlemon he was 15.
 
Ry-
4:10 AM
(wasn't Undo 14 on PCG?)
(also helpful if you’re looking for examples of actually good moderators =] )
 
user3956566
@Ry- @Undo ? He was young when he joined SO as well and is awesome
 
@Ry- SR
but yeah, something like that
actually, that's TMI
 
user3956566
@Undo tmi?
 
nevermind
 
 
2 hours later…
5:56 AM
hi
 
hello
 
 
2 hours later…
7:47 AM
6 candidates are in the election
 
8:07 AM
@Machavity We all are helping, most of the times, editing, voting and helping new comers posts here. I've been here for at least 6-8 years and this is my forth or maybe fifth account and I've seen that one day, you'll get what you deserve. I agree with you but, consider that we're here to help by our choice and spending our precious time only for making community better and learning some.
However, if she or even you or anybody else didn't succeed this time, there will be next times in future too so, don't loss the energy here. Keep up the good work :)
 
Somebody came onto SOCVR the other day and thanked Zoe for her work in the Android Studio tag. So, whilst I agree with Machavity, it hasn't gone entirely unnoticed :)
 
Wow, lots of strong candidates this time around
 
@StephenKennedy Actually, in the Kotlin tag and lately, Android Studio + ...
 
Zoe
@ʍѳђઽ૯ท yeah, I'm aware. There's a pretty high chance I won't get that far, but either way I get more into the visible moderation and join in on some discussions, so it's a win either way ^^"
@ʍѳђઽ૯ท it's been a while since I've done anything directly on the Android tag though... I burned through close votes extremely fast there... Android Studio is a new push I intend to keep going
Wasn't there another ping here?
Nope xd
 
@Zoe Consider this as a win since you're here for two years and you got 12k repu and now you could be elected as a moderator between all other choices. I support you however. If not this time, next time :)
 
Zoe
8:23 AM
Thanks ^^
 
I remember she (Yvette) and I were discussing about an answer in the Android tag and I wasn't here for a while and now, wow, she became a moderator :) she had only 10k those days I suppose
 
8:49 AM
@Zoe Great reply from you here. Dare I suggest that you should perhaps edit your post a little to echo what you say in your comment ("you can't know the extent and limits of something that's apparently undocumented" etc) as not everyone will bother to read the comments, I'm sure.
 
Zoe
Yeah, I plan on doing that once I get out of bed xD
@StephenKennedy unrelated, does question 11 look fine, or am I still missing the question?
 
@Zoe I'm a bit bleary eyed atm but I'll take a look. You might be better off asking somebody who is more awake however :)
 
Zoe
9:10 AM
No rush ^^
 
9:27 AM
@Zoe You should definitely address the highly upvoted comment in your answer, and probably note that you did so in a comment/reply to the person who posted it. HTH.
 
Zoe
Yeah, working on it. Something else popped up though (see the last comment on the nomination)
 
Zoe 40 vs 19
 
Zoe
I'm surprised I'm above 0 ^^" I also didn't know you could get the mortarboard badge on a site without rep xD
 
@Zoe it's explained somewhere on meta. Rep is computed but not shown on meta.
 
Zoe
yeah, that would make sense
 
I didn't know I could get a mortarboard badge on any site ;)
Maybe one day.
 
if (user.election[2019].electedAsModerator){
    user.name += " ♦";
    user.isModerator = true;
    user.grantModeratorTools();
}
 
Zoe
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I love the comment on the answer there xD
 
user3956566
@Zoe you help with the tags and leave a lot of comments about that. Re incorrectly using the Android-Studio tag. I see that is quite effective :)
 
golfing to user.name += " ♦", but not faster. Also grandModeratorTools should set isModerator (encapsulation principle) @smileycreations15
 
user3956566
9:36 AM
@ʍѳђઽ૯ท I don't remember that.
 
Also, I hope that the site code contains as few javascript as possible.
 
Zoe
@YvetteColomb yeah, but I watch for new questions directly on the AS tag, not on the Android tag. Also got a couple userscripts to keep it effective ^^"
 
if (user.election[2019].electedAsModerator){
    user.setPrivilege("moderator");
}
 
post that on codereview you have my vote.
 
Zoe
@smileycreations15 if(SO.i.elect[11].isElect[usr]){usr.setMod(1);}
 
user3956566
9:38 AM
@Zoe I monitor duplicated comments and delete them when they've been used. So there's a few regular users who leave auto comments (I do too).
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I cannot be a moderator because of user.reputation >= 3000
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Do you mean Stack Overflow?
 
@YvetteColomb last comment on Zoe post does not seem constructive...
Not sure what is going on but yeah...
 
@MadaraUchiha true
 
user3956566
@PetterFriberg really? I was trying to be helpful and reply to someone. meh I'll delete it and come back later.
 
9:44 AM
@YvetteColomb I did not mean yours...
 
user3956566
@PetterFriberg oh, on the election page?
 
I pinged you since active in chat and we can't flag, yeah sorry I should have mentioned that
 
yup
 
user3956566
oh yeh, I agree. it's deleted
 
the tone is little bit on the harsher side but oh well ..
 
9:46 AM
it's ok to be harsh but you need to be constructive.
 
@Makyen thanks for the query.
 
@Yvette I appreciated a reply on that comment btw. If you add a motivation to your opinions, others can assess the validity of it, else it's just an opinion, so I always like to know why
 
user3956566
@ErikA oh coolies. So the reply was adequate?
 
Yup, certainly :)
 
user3956566
Yeh, it anyone sees a bad comment on the election page, please ping the last mod you see in here for deletion. It's hard without flags on them.
 
9:49 AM
@Script47 np. It's interesting to check out.
 
There are 118 comments on the election page and 33 users in this room.
 
user3956566
@Makyen are you running?
 
Man... Then we would have too many good candidates... I already don't know how to vote
 
@ErikA You would make a great mod also, candiate and vote for yourself :)
@Yvette what is the policy for all those chatty comments on certain posts (on election page)?, you clean up some or you let'em be?
 
user3956566
@PetterFriberg we clean them up
 
9:54 AM
@PetterFriberg And make it even even harder for the rest of us
 
user3956566
@ErikA I hear ya! I heard Mayken was running.
 
He said he was thinking about it
 
Eh, I don't think I'm mod material. I tend to get pulled in to comment discussions on meta too easily, and probably can't put in the time others can. Perhaps another year.
 
@ErikA Maybe an RO position in the meantime?
 
Perhaps :)
 
10:02 AM
Any idea about Nathan Oliver? He's had 40/40 for 3 years now.
 
^ true i was expecting him to run
 
@BhargavRao I remember a not this year in chat, but maybe I'm wrong... I need to search.
 
@YvetteColomb It was years ago. I think it was about your and I answer in or Design Library tag. I've changed the username many times, that's why you might not remember. However, the old username was LinX64 I suppose.
 
Faith ... and Luck ... be with you ;)
 
user3956566
@ʍѳђઽ૯ท over 3 years ago. stackoverflow.com/a/35235360/3956566
 
user3956566
10:09 AM
I had an older account that was merged with this one and my rep jumped when that happened. I'm not sure if that happened before or after our chat then.
 
Gosh! It was like yesterday..Three years passed :/
 
@YvetteColomb I'm leaning in the direction of running. I'm giving myself a few/several more hours prior to making the decision.
 
user3956566
@Makyen you know you have a lot of supporters and you'd make a great asset to the team
 
@YvetteColomb Thank you.
 
user3956566
@Makyen I don't know if it helps at all knowing you have the support of the mod team. There's a lot of good candidates. You have been active working with the team, so we know you well and know what you do for the site.
 
user3956566
10:14 AM
as does @Machavity
 
user3956566
and others too.
 
@YvetteColomb That people support me, both moderators and not, means a lot. I appreciate it, greatly. It's something that weighs significantly towards running.
 
user3956566
ofc
 
@Makyen Would you continue as an SOCVR RO if you were to run and be elected?
 
user3956566
@StephenKennedy good question :)
 
10:37 AM
@StephenKennedy That's a good question. There are at least three levels to that. From SE's POV: There's no SE based restriction on doing so (there's multiple rooms with moderators as ROs). From the room's POV, we have not come to a definitive conclusion within the RO team, nor within the room. Then, there's a personal choice. Both commitments take time, and a bit different focus. I believe any of the current ROs could make it work, if they want to.
From a personal POV, I expect I'd want to see if it would work.
 
Zoe
11:16 AM
@YvetteColomb there's another one.
 
user3956566
@Zoe thanks
 
user3956566
@Zoe I regret my initial comment, it was not well thought out or expressed. I really don't agree with people being abused. The user is temporarily suspended. Please let whomever is around know if there's any further harassment in the comments.
 
user3956566
I'm having an early night, we'll make sure there's a mod around to be pinged for nomination comments that aren't able to be flagged.
 
Zoe
@YvetteColomb It's fine ^^ Thanks for handling it btw
Gn o/
 
I'm around for a few hours :)
2
 
user3956566
11:27 AM
@Zoe yr welcome. That's why we're here :) would make a good mod candidate question. Night hun. Keep up the good fight.
 
user3956566
@JonClements tag and night :D
 
@Yvette hah.... night :)
 
@YvetteColomb yikes she was abused?
looks like the comment are cleared
 
It's bad enough that you cannot flag comments under nominations...
 
true
 
Zoe
11:33 AM
yeah... It'd be nice if that comment section had the same standards as the rest of the network on voting and flagging.
 
voting, I'm not sure. Well maybe it would avoid a lot of identical "good luck" comments.
 
Zoe
Yeah, and also filter out comments that state the candidates shouldn't be elected because of vote ratios
cough and generally highlight the useful comments from the chatty and/or "thank you"-stuff
 
those comments in nominations are quite a "low blow". commenters know that it is visible, and it hurts the candidate. But hey, positive comments help them, so that's life.
 
Zoe
I don't think they realized it could backfire though
 
Erm, it does hurt. Even if they're countered, the comments remain. It could backfire if another candidate tried this kind of stuff. If it's not a candidate, who cares?
 
11:42 AM
It's stupid it's only chronologically ordered, though. An initial low-blow comment is way worse than no 20 being a low blow
 
amen to that. Happened to me last year. This year I have friends who commented first :)
 
Zoe
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I mean backfire as in for the poster of the comment(s)
 
suspended, now that's something... I didn't read that comment, it must have been specially bad. At least, this user isn't going to vote against you :)
 
Zoe
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Eh, they accused me of revenge downvotes related to an earlier comment (on vote ratios). The first one was worse than the second one though, but both are nuked.
 
Is there any moderators here? Or candidates
 
Zoe
11:47 AM
Several, yes.
 
@smileycreations15 yes to both :)
 
@JonClements Thanks.
@Zoe But most are inactive now.
 
Zoe
/shrug
 
taaaalk toooo meeeee
@Zoe revenge downvotes? who does this? seriously...
 
Zoe
@Jean-FrançoisFabre People do xd I don't (and I can prove it if necessary), but it being used as a "don't elect this person because they might've revenge downvoted me" is just... eh.
 
11:53 AM
who wants to talk to me about bad edits? :)
@Zoe I just don't believe this... appalling.
 
Elect me else I'll revenge downvote all of you
3
 
you can check my 2018 nomination and the comments below if you want examples of low blows...
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Hey
 
(maybe they were deserved, and I'm glad that they didn't come back this year, maybe because they just could not ...)
@Magisch pops up when "revenge downvotes" is said in this room :)
 
yeah sorry about that, I was nicer this year
 
11:56 AM
I wasn't talking about you Stephen :)
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Conservative estimate: 37 people in the past 30 days, if I don't look very hard with conservative thresholds
 
@JonClements [totally OT] I sent a possible 3rd player for your game your way but he didn't hear back from you
 
How fun is it to cheat? I have a pinball machine at home. I never remove the glass to win the highscore, it just makes no sense...
 
Hi
 
(besides I have the highscore)
 
11:58 AM
As you know i'm especially interested in all forms of serial voting
 
Oh? Think I may have seen that @Stephen but never had a chance to catch up with the elephant to see what he thought/wanted to do.
 
not because I like to do it, but because it's fascinating to track and you can do a lot with limited information
 
@JonClements Ah ok. No worries. Thought you might get a lot of pings and just missed it.
 
not running this year so?
 
11:59 AM
Can anyone tell me where do I vote 😅
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre glad to see you running, you have my vote
 
thanks a lot!
you cannot vote yet.
 
One for potential mods - what do you do when you see a 300k+ user repeatedly asking for upvotes on random questions 😄
 
Zoe
@Jean-FrançoisFabre yeah :/
 
Haha ok thanks
 
12:00 PM
but you can vote for answers to the questionnaire
 
@CalvT facepalm? :p
 
300k+ begging for rep lol
 
@CalvT some 300k+ are rep-hungry. They also answer duplicates for rep instead of closing... Asking for acceptance you mean?
 
simple facepalm is insufficient, this needs the quad-advanced facepalm
where you get 3 friends to all facepalm at once
 
Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest
 
12:02 PM
For some, rep is a drug. That's why they have 300k+. But some have 300k without answering trivial dupes too. Let's not generalize.
 
Well I've modflagged anyway. This particular user is dropping links in totally unrelated questions, saying things like Sorry to bother, but can I ask for a favor? Someone has just downvoted a good, efficient, working and helpful answer of mine, can you please offset that with an upvote? Thank you
 
@CalvT you can flag the comment as chatty/no longer needed. This isn't too mean, and attracts attention of the mod.
@CalvT unbelieveable.
 
@CalvT Hold on, is this not even on their own posts?
 
I went for mod flag to explain there's quite a few comments like it, so hopefully they can clean up
@StephenKennedy No
 
Say @Jean-FrançoisFabre how do you deal with new users questions?
Same for you @Zoe
 
12:08 PM
@CalvT I'd hope for just a little more than a comments cleanup in that case
 
huh... see there's still a slight issue with meta/main reputation being out of sync... I'm nearly 5k different now...
 
Question to all the candidates: You see a medium-high reputation, longstanding contributor with a decent track record go off on a unhinged rant and do some very regrettable things. We know a suspension exists to cool down, but that only enrages the user further over their percieved wrong. Which interpersonal skills and techniques do you use to try and defuse the situation, to turn the user away from their self destructive mindset?
 
@Yonlif depends if it's homework dump too broad whatever like often, duplicate (a lot), or average.
 
@JonClements That doesn't sound "slight"
 
@JonClements You're 100,361 on both for me... caching probably
 
12:11 PM
Sometimes a jewel question is posted from a new user. That's rare.
 
Zoe
I handle them mostly the same way as with questions from older users, but I likely use different comments where I leave it. New users are most likely not as familiar with the site and guidelines, so I add some extra links (relevant links obviously) along with an explanation. I don't comment on everything though, but where I do, I do so slightly differently based on the rep (because scaring off new users isn't specifically beneficial). But it also depends on what type of post, and depends on the quality.
 
@Magisch interpersonal skills and techniques is my middle name. It looks a lot like one of the questions of the questionnaire.
 
I get a lot of moderation is technical work, but arguably even more important to the success of the site is how well you are at conflict resolution and at managing and setting expectations and yes, listening. That's why this interests me specifically
 
@CalvT been caching for a while then :)
 
12:13 PM
@JonClements What if you visit your meta profile? Could just be that dropdown
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I'm specifically asking about an otherwise reasonable person feeling disproportionally wronged in some way resulting in deliberately destructive behavior
not about merely LQ questions
 
Personal experience: a few months ago, I had a bad week, and posted 2 or 3 "not nice" comments (nothing really rude but stuff like "whaaaat" or whatnot). I got a warning message from the mods; It was nice and reassuring (they know I'm not like that). I'd do exactly the same.
describe destructive behaviour.
@JonClements I have a regular 10 score difference between meta and main. I never dared writing a meta post about it.
 
@CalvT it's just the drop down :)
(there's been a post on MSE about it for ages now but guess it's still a slight issue)
 
@Magisch what can be "destructive behaviour"? destroy the internet?
 
vandalising their own posts, frivolous flagging and edits, rude comments
you know the typical "person went off the rails temporarily" the "to cool down" suspension reason was made for
 
12:19 PM
what else than a warning, then a suspension if it doesn't stop?
 
Zoe
@Magisch Warnings or some other kind of direct contact with the user seems like the best choice. Like Jean-FrançoisFabre said, it could just be a bad day/week/month for that matter. For that matter, OP could not know what they're doing. If it's just one time and doesn't appear to be a repeated or abusive pattern before that, suspending seems like a bit overkill. A suspension while it's being sorted out could also be an option, but the extent depends.
 
I'm against brutal suspension for high rep users. But probably it never happened without a warning.
When you're banned from review, it can last 3 days, 1 week. Same thing. Have a break, do something else, like painting, beer, whatever.
 
Painting with beer
 
Zoe
How do you paint with beer?
 
Not quite sure how that'd work but it sounds fun :D
 
12:21 PM
Sounds wasteful :)
 
@Zoe Hold my beer and I'll demonstrate
 
Zoe
@StephenKennedy Or you can use that beer holder I got you last christmas! :p
 
@Zoe I think I know who bothered you in comments. You weren't the only target. Machavity also caught some shrapnel.
I also caught comments from users that cannot vote (77 rep). I don't think that should be allowed under a nomination.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Don't worry about Machavity, he's not qualified
Or so it says in the comments
 
12:46 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I think even if you can't vote asking questions is fair
facing the fire is after all part of being a mod
 
Also - you can't really preclude the possibility that by the time the actual voting starts - they wouldn't have earned the necessary rep. to vote at that time...
 
what's the rep requirement to vote?
 
Thanks @Zoe and @Jean-FrançoisFabre . I would really like the moderators to be a nice people with good social skills and won't scare off new users :)
I'll consider it when I'll decide who to vote to.
 
@StephenKennedy Any community member with 150 reputation may vote in the election
Or so says the election page
 
So Jon's more than right - that can be earnt in a day
 
Zoe
12:54 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre yeah
 
1:33 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Yeah, there's some serious ranters out there. One even got suspended apparently
Apparently, I'm responsible for "too many things being closed" and "downvoting too much".
 
Zoe
@Machavity But closing stuff is clearly mean.
:p
 
@Machavity "too many things being closed" there's some truth in it :)
"things being closed" is the truth.
 
Zoe
there's still a lot being closed. There's a queue with 8-9k posts in it for a reason after all :/
 
@Yonlif we are nice people.
@Zoe not all must be closed. Some people flag wrong dupes, or too broad when the question is okay. That's why we need 5 voters.
 
Zoe
@Jean-FrançoisFabre well, yeah. But I highly doubt that applies to the majority of the posts in there.
 
1:48 PM
I work the queue, and yes, sometimes (1 out of 10) I click on "Leave open"... and it's an audit :)
 
Good luck to everyone, we have a strong candidate base this year
I was hoping I'd see your nomination @Jean-FrançoisFabre, glad you entered :)
 
thanks, means a lot!
I wonder how many more candidates will throw their hat in. 6 looks not that much to me. Last year we were 16 at least.
(but there were 3 positions)
 
We're not a full day in yet. If we don't need a primary I'll be surprised
 
The primary isn't the biggest hurdle :)
 
1:53 PM
Well, the current candidates are kind-of intimidating. You do need to offer something really good to make a chance.
I mean, if I would run I certainly wouldn't vote for me
 
You are wrong. You should vote for you if you run.
 
Nope, I should vote on the best candidates I think are best suited for the job
 
And running is always good. Some work to answer the questions and create your nomination, and after that, watch the fireworks.
I lost last year, but I'm not bitter. Well after the few hours of disappointment, I was okay, and the whole "campaigning" was so stimulating.
That is: if you're interested.
 
It was more a metaphorical point: I think we have very, very well-suited candidates for only 2 positions. If you want to run, you need to think you'd be (close to) as good or better than the others running, and that's quite something with the current candidates
I can even get kind-of mad thinking about that 4 of the current candidates won't win
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre There was some ranting involved tho :P
 
2:00 PM
@Machavity the french always get the bad parts in brit movies :)
 
Are you kidding? The "father smells of elderberries" part is epic
 
@ErikA if you want to be a mod someday, you cannot possibly win the first time (very unlikely). So you need training :)
@Machavity this movie is great. Hard to watch in one go, but their masterpiece anyway.
 
I look on the bright side: we have more qualified people than positions. I prefer that to the inverse
 
😀 don't forget the russian secret service commenting under fake SO accounts to bias the election.
 
I have not asked Julian Assange for Jean's emails (yet) :P
 
2:08 PM
you'd be disappointed. Cat food mail, spam, adverts...
 
2:19 PM
I guess Peter has dropped out. Deleted his Meta and nomination
 
2:29 PM
@Machavity good luck btw
which Peter?
 
Peter Haddad.
-30 on the questionnaire, that was bad. I don't think I've seen that in the past year.
 
Oh, I hope he wasn't too demotivated by the votes on meta. I guess meta was pretty harsh on his answers, myself included
 
oh yeah
 
I'm not sure this questionnaire is read by a lot of people: 2000 people so far vs how many voters?
 
2:31 PM
i think he should have rewritten his nomination
 
and how many people actually read all the answers?
 
did he post the "job application" on the nomination page?
 
@ColdFire yes. Because it's still early.
 
@TimCastelijns He did, but he apparently deleted it
 
My first nomination was complete trash. But at least I went through the full process and learned.
It's not like they make you walk the town in tar & feathers when you lose.
 
2:35 PM
how can I cast my vote? there?
 
@TanveerMunir You can't yet. We're still in the nomination phase
 
CTRL+C/CTRL+v 😀 nope. Voting hasn't started. But you can vote for the questionnaire.
 
Any idea why I'm unable to see voting option in nominations
 
1 min ago, by Erik A
@TanveerMunir You can't yet. We're still in the nomination phase
 
yes, because voting hasn't started. But you can vote for the questionnaire.
that or contact your local support :)
 
2:39 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Is there any local support, if yes where to find that
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Are you selling bumper stickers by any chance?
 
@Skynet you're talking to them :)
@ErikA we don't have that in France.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre okies, so any idea from when we can see the voting icons
 
let me paste the text on the top right:
election begins
in 6 days
election ends
on Mar 19 at 20:00
3
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre cool to know that
 
2:44 PM
I had to look that up myself. Plus this is 20:00 UTC. Not your local timezone.
I'm less sure about the primary phase, if there's a primary (must be more than 10 candidates for that)
 
That's enough for me, 6 days from now would do regardless of timezone
 
I think the primary would start before that if there was to be one
@Machavity you FFGITWed the election nomination BTW 😀
 
Zoe
3:25 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Fastest Future Moderator In The West-ed the nomination*
 
if we believe the meta questionnaire, yes. But it's not always like that.
 
3:59 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre The year I won, I credit FGITWing my nomination as being partially responsible
 
It was not possible for me, because of the timezone I'm currently in, that would have mean to get up at 2 a.m. to post the nomination... Damn holidays :)
 
As long as you also FGITW all the modflags after becoming one :)
 
first things first :)
from now on let's end all posts by :)
 
I don't like being told what to do :( :)
5
 
Zoe
@TimCastelijns Stop not liking that this instant!! :p
 
4:14 PM
@meagar or, it could be, 'cos you were a great choice, ya know :)
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Honestly, I think it helps a great deal to have thought about it some before it comes up. Undo had told us in SOCVR about it about a month ago (the Election 11 page has been up for about 30 days)
 
more than that
 
Last year I decided to run when I saw some ... erm ... "candidate" that really wasn't appropriate. I said: I cannot be worse. And I tried.
So big Kudos to him.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Also, FGITW might not help overall. You only posted a few hours ago and have a solid second place on Meta. It's impressive how fast that went for you
 
@Machavity as I said earlier it'll be a pleasure to work with you :)
But the score at the questionnaire doesn't mean you get the job. See poor Art of Code...
 
4:20 PM
@Machavity order gets randomized in the stages that actually matter, so I doubt it makes much of a difference
FGITW on the questionnaire is probably more valuable
 
How many people don't give a damn about the questionnaire though and only read nominations & comments and vote only on those grounds?
 
A lot
Many won't even read the comments, you have to change to a different tab for that
heck, I don't read the questionnaire. I do read the haikus, though
 
I'm sorry to say that I voted like this on CodeReview, because I don't visit it often and I have a low score.
Haiku was fun.
@Undo tab? not on my machine. Maybe on mobile.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre on the primary tab (and election tab) comments aren't shown.
 
The questionnaire had too many similar questions imho
@Undo oh right! forgot that.
 
4:23 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre I think people use the questionnaires for when they're interested in a bit of further information/not quite sure where a candidate stands/things... I think a lot of the time if your reputation proceeds you, people are likely to just see a few names they think will be good and stick with that.
 
@JonClements reputation, yes, but not SO reputation.
Last time I had the highest rep and I ended up 9th
This time I don't even have the highest rep :(
I'm filling the questionnaire properly out of respect for the happy few who care to read it, knowing it has little impact on the final result.
 
Which is a good thing... it's happened in the past someone writes a nomination of barely a paragraph and when asked if they're going to do the questionnaire respond with a kind of "yeah... maybe later".... they generally don't do well.
 
Yeah, I think that SO employees can also kick a candidate if they don't obey the rules.
so best of both worlds, and cool meta points.
 
yes... staff can withdraw candidates for "reasons" :)
 
Peter withdrew?
 
4:32 PM
yes. he did, by himself.
too bad, as the job was done.
 
What did you guys do to him :)
 
Hey, nothing. I even posted a nice comment, and didn't even downvote.
I had never seen so many DVs on a meta questionnaire (without more upvotes, I mean)
Peter has the same name as one of "Running Man" last season winners, that's an asset.
I think he should have gone through all the process. That doesn't cost much once you've filled in the paperwork.
 
Why run the risk of getting voted in if you've changed your mind though?
 
overnight?
 
well, there's some people that weren't planning to run but now are thinking about it - so it happens
 
4:37 PM
Peter doesn't know that most people don't even click on the questionnaire. Else maybe he would have stayed.
@JonClements inside information ? :)
 
nope... just from chat I've seen here and elsewhere and responses people have made...
 
5 candidates for 2 positions that's a big ratio.
compared to 2018 edition
 
Yeah, I'm expecting more applicants
 
We should vote now, actually.
Some solid 2018 candidates haven't threw their hats in. And they were close to victory.
I meant "thrown".
 
@JonClements pfff, no
 
5:04 PM
Is there a hashtag on twitter for the election?
 
#msoga #givemetheshovel
(I don't think so)
 
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