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from what I can see, it's altitude above sea level, not distance from centre
I got to greenland, not loading the rest
yeah, that'd make sense
huh, it loaded in <1s for me
I am streaming video atm so...
I do have like 200Mbps wifi though
Could probably rail someone's Internet plan by linking some giga pixel image in here
too late to edit :/
00:01
oh right it's still trying to load in here
distance from the center wouldn't help find max point-to-point distance, would it?
it would
well, depends
oh gods, here we go about map projections
with triangles?
well, it should, definitely
00:02
I can see how it might
does the centreline need to pass through the centre of the earth?
Anyone watched the 100? Just getting into it, really good
it's almost like polar coordinates
that's a good question. Does a sandwich have to be vertical?
I would say no, just the two furthest points
as long as you have bread on both sides...
00:03
/r/theydidthemath
tldr: no, you can still slice it in half
@ssube otherwise they are hard to eat
@Luggage is a hotdog a sandwich?
yes, so is a taco
who tf makes tacos with bread
00:03
hotdog yes, taco no
wheat tortillas are bread, corn tortillas are close
a sandwich doesn't need leavened bread
i heard taco bell is making a taco sandwich
actually, if you put the two bread slices upside down, you're wrapping the whole universe in the sandwhich (except the portion in between). You don't even need to be at two extremes of the earth
two crackers and some cheese is a sandwich, matza and whatever you put in matza is a sandwich
@towc you're assuming positive curvature or toroidal geometry
00:04
@towc bread doesn't have an upside and downside until you butter it
get 2 slices of bread, make a sandwich so the slices get a direction, then flip them
you can flip the bread on a sandwich without making it any less of a sandwich
that also flips the direction
you'll just get condiments on your hands
00:06
perfect
Pretty cool, but I might have forgotten crew
If bread orientation is emergent from sandwichness, then you can't remove the sandwich and maintain orientation
@KendallFrey actually wait, you can still get a loose sandwich of "a little less than half" the universe in euclidian space
@KamilSolecki NO
XD
Ill get them in a new spaceship
a passenger rocket!
they will just have to see where the rover stops
cause its rollin'
00:07
A Sport Utility Rocket
it's hatin
I can always grab the detonators
two slices facing each other make a sandwhich in between. They are at 0deg of each other. In reality no sandwich slices are perfectly parallel, and you can get up to maybe 5deg before it gets sloppy
@KendallFrey that's not the only thing: you can butter the bread before you use it
and use the rocket for parts
so its not a waste after all
00:08
if you make the slices at 90deg, it becomes a really sloppy sandwich, but still loosely a sandwich
butter and jam definitely assume the bread's orientation, so then you can reverse it relative to the sandwich
@ssube sorry, should have said "only emergent"
if you put the slices at, say 170deg, then you everything between them is still the content of the sandwhich
depending on the curve of the universe, it might all be my sandwich
Anyone here use i3?
00:09
@BenFortune hello
@towc generally speaking, the contents of a sandwich have to fall within the outline of the bread
Its gonna be a ride
Alright, so. I have it running on a chromebook, is there any way I can set the mod key to the search button?
@ssube I often have cheese and lettuce hanging out of it
@ssube no way
00:10
@towc but at least part of the cheese/lettuce is within the bread-line
@BenFortune I don't have a chromebook, but I'd guess so
you already figured out you can set it to other normal keys, I hope
Nope lol
oh heh
open the config
It always threw a syntax error if I didn't use Mod1-4
it's .config/i3/config for me
00:11
yep
oh wait actually, I never tried setting it to something other than mod1-4
so you may be right
Yeah that's my problem haha
does that qualify for moon olympics?
Might be able to set a key override in linux, since I don't have a super button
@KendallFrey I also have 0 control over it
im just praying to stop
00:12
HAMMERTIME!
@KamilSolecki can you switch vessels?
also who the hell doesn't put at least a mechjeb core on their rover
and lands without the brakes on
and forgets the crew
huh, landing with the brakes on is a good idea
@BenFortune oh, that might be easier
omfg it went across the crater and up
now its doing tricks
the UI tricks you into launching without crew all the time
00:14
yeah, a quick google of some stuff that I could think of didn't show anything particularly useful
@towc Apparently I can use something called xmodmap
@BenFortune you can, there's a newer thing though iirc
xmodmap works fairly well (if it works)
@BenFortune yup
@ssube Oh sweet, any idea what it is?
00:15
never used it succesfully myself. I think I managed to break a distro once somehow with it
but people seem to say it works well
2
Q: Chromebook: Map Search Key to ctrl, ubuntu

MartinffxI've got ubuntu running on chromebook using crouton. How do I map the search key to the ctrl action. Similar to this, swapping the caps lock key and the ctrl key. /usr/bin/setxkbmap -option "ctrl:swapcaps" Update I've still had no luck :-(, I've swapping the like this, in a ~/.Xmodmap file...

Might work
@BenFortune kbd, I think
jesus does this game not have a concept of friction
or are those perfect bearings
00:17
@KamilSolecki I prefer non-friction, personally
oh, there's also setkeycodes <scancode> <keycode>
I'll just have to relaunch a second one today
Tomorrow
yesterday
Get the crew to pick up the other one as well
They will have two
00:20
is debris persistent in KSP?
It's full of supplies
Showing my search key as both 0xe0 0x5b and 0xe0 0xdb
Somethings fucky
@Shmiddty optional
but yes
so if you land a vessel somewhere, you can leave it there and repeat?
00:22
has anyone built a city in KSP?
yep
and vessels aren't treated like debris
I built a pile of transport ships once :D
oh 125
00:22
by which I mean, they all landed nearby, some hit each other, and there was a pile of stuff to use
basically, you can have it delete debris once there's too much, for performance
before it turns into Kessler Space Program
and you can dock things basically endlessly?
@KendallFrey now all I want in my life is "extremely high tech high grade aerospace purple grease"
until you crash the game
00:24
if you have enough docking ports
as things get larger, they are more likely to spontaneously explode
clear mod4
keycode 125 = Search
add mod4 = Search
3d geometric art!
Right Amazon. You have my data on file. Don't fucking send emails that only apply to Americans to people outside the USA.
xmodmap worked, ty
00:39
I just pooped
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00:56
ok lets keep this clean...
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Thats my first question.
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I'm thinking Caprica Six is a bot.
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Ok Caprica Six is a bot,
01:03
That investigation left me on the edge of my seat.
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What investigation? Oh never mind...
@towc You spent some time in Italy, right?
How to write a cordova plugin?
Search if there is a Browser API
Shim it
Doesn't exist? Don't.
01:35
halp! I got this "Webcam stream loading..." in OctoPi infinitely!
I have tried exactly nothing and I'm all out of ideas!
01:56
I'm moderately sure he's italian
Like <20%
If he is, his opinions on pizza aren't nearly strong enough
02:07
holy shit, something worked
got webcam feed !!!!!!
02:19
ohhi
I setup my calander to attach showers 😃 it now adds shower's bad weather to calender lol
What's ahp @FélixGagnon-Grenier I didn't know you were here too.
hiiiii!
@Allenph I'm literally everywhere.
oh boy one of my colonists made a pass at another
maybe I can get two couples
football style?
02:33
i mean, she did say no
but still, at least someone tried
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Do you use a z-probe?
only anal probes
... not sure what a "z-probe" is tbh
Equally interested. xD
Never mind.
you definitely got it
anyway. nn
02:39
o/
she fucking broke 8 advanced components
do you know how long those took me to make
how do you break a component
@KevinB construction failed
@Luggage.
Join the 3D printer room. I need your help with Marlin and rlemon is a newb.
02:49
Also, it's been a while since I've been in here. I'm on the backend mostly. Are you guys still using SIngletons or are you OOP now?
What about Marlin?
@Luggage I'm trying to configure a z-probe. My probe can extend past the print bed without physically hitting anything and I'd rather not lose 40mm of build surface for no reason.
It seems Marling considers the print bed God.
Is this replacing a z-stop?
HAMMERTIME!
Yeah, it's replacing the z-stop.
02:56
I didn't deal with changing this and I am on mobile so don't want to look into it right now. There are lots of options though. Have you read though the configuration comments?
Installing Marlin is pretty easy
@hilli_micha I've installed it many times...I'm configuring it.
there is videos on youtube that go indepth pretty well, look up the one that installs marlin-config
Ah..well, if your sensor is crashing into the bed
It's not crashing into the bed.
it sounds like it's not at the right distance from the bed itself
02:57
@Luggage I have indeed read the comments.
He's using a sensor near the head as a z stop so it would ovehabg the bed on one edge
Thus not being a z stop then
How is it not a z-stop?
HAMMERTIME!
Since it can't detect the distance. A broken z stop
Unless I misunderstand the problem
@CapricaSix You're giving me anxiety with your ban-hammer usage considering I'm off topic.
@Luggage It can detect the distance. It would just have to have the points of the grids offset.
02:59
It's a bot
Which is a pretty normal circumstance.
It's just that it can extend past the print bed.
crazy distracted here one sec
tbh sounds like you need a new mount
@hilli_micha TBH sounds like you don't know what you're talking about.
Like I said, I'm distracted, if you're going to be a dick about it I can just not help when I get a sec
@hilli_micha Help if you can, just don't treat me like a moron.
03:02
I'm not treating you like a moron, don't project like that.
I don't make those kinds of assertions
I've actually installed and configured an auto leveling sensor on my printer
Maybe I misinterpreted. Help is appreciated, just seems like you chimed in without understanding what I've said.
He did :)
that is true, I might be misinterpting what you said, e.g. why I said "crazy interupted
Putting phone down but let me know if you come up with anything.
In middle of league game
03:06
Was talking to @Allenph but you too :)
03:22
@Allenph Game over. If I understand correctly, your auto-leveling sensor is overhanging so when it reaches a particular side of the bed, it just dumps below the bed.
Typically you'd account for this with the X_PROBE_OFFSET_FROM_EXTRUDER and Y_PROBE_OFFSET_FROM_EXTRUDER values
@hilli_micha See I don't understand these values. It's my understanding that those values compensate for defining the grid?
Yes, they compensate when the sensor is probing the bed.
The problem then would be convincing the sanity check that those values were okay
Out of curiosity, what printer do you have?
An A2.
03:25
Anet?
Yeah.
I have an Anet A8
I'm cheap. This is part of about 5 grand worth of other equipment to produce electronics, so.
I had to be cheap.
It's just the chasis after all.
It's an aluminum chasis which is good from the get go, the a8 comes with acyrlic which sucks.
I did the AM8 conversion
still gotta work out bugs with that
03:28
@hilli_micha This one comes with a bit of acrylic.
I actually had a bit bust and had to acetone weld.
Which is surprisingly extremely strong.
Back to your issue, it should be as simple as making sure those values are defined (in mm). X_PROBE is measured from extruder - to the left and + to the right and Y is measured - to the front of the bed and + to the rear of the bed.
Once you get those defined, you should be able to append the G29 code to your prints from there (either through GCODE exports or the Firmware itself) and it should be pretty painless from there.
Not append put it at the beginning rather.
I was glad I was wrong. You're much more experienced than I am.
Yeah, sorry about earlier, I was super distracted and was just shotgunning.
You're fine.
X_PROBE_OFFSET_FROM_EXTRUDER is -60. That's what I measured with my caliper.
Did your sensor come with a mount out of box or did you have to print one yourself?
Most of the time, the source of the mount will include the needed values to have for those.
03:32
X_BED_SIZE = 205.
I printed one. No values associated.
Shitty of them not to include that, it's kind of necessary.
That bed size is 15mm less because it does intrude slightly, but not a lot.
A2 is much less developed for.
Let me get these other values, one sec. Uploading.
@hilli_micha Also, let it be known I'm pretty drunk, so.
You're fine, you're more coherent than most drunk people.
I'm a software engineer. We're all good drunks.
Be sure, if you do add G29 code in some way, you put G28 (Auto-home) before it. Home then Probe
03:37
Great. I think the output of my voltage divider is too low.
The sensor triggered correctly (evident by the LED) but it did not trigger the switch.
The output is around 3.1V. (Tested on my variable PSU and a voltmeter)
5V is the voltage needed I believe
Actually, I remember that that voltage triggered before...
It must be the inversion I just set, let me ask you a question about (unrelated) the trigger inversion.
But I will admit, I didn't need to fuck with the voltage on mine at all so I'm a little shady in that area, but go ahead and shoot
Let me get the config vars..
3d Printing room instead?
We're polluting...
who cares
03:41
Nah, 3D Printing is an offical topic here lol
the room is dead anyway this time
dead-ish
There are tons of discussions here about it.
PHP is a lot more strict, so.
Meh. I didn't keep separate copy of my config. I need git on this thing.
Back to original problem for a second...
RIGHT_PROBE_BED_POSITION <= MAX_PROBE_X, "RIGHT_PROBE_BED_POSITION can't be reached by the Z probe."
RIGHT_PROBE_BED_POSITION = 190
Yeah, those made need some adjustments as well. Let me get mine for reference to try and steer you int he right direction
You should need to adjust 4 values there
X_BED_SIZE = 205
03:46
My bed size is queen. Goodnight.
Whats the Y bed size? because you'll need that as well
210 (I edited from 220, sorry.)
Essentially, you've got 4 values. LEFT_PROBE_BED_POSITION, RIGHT_PROBE_BED_POSITION, BACK_PROBE_BED_POSITION, and FRONT_PROBE_BED_POSITION that will probably need to be adjusted.
Please don’t probe me on any side while in bed
03:50
I can't find a definition on those vars @hilli_micha. The comment there is / Set the boundaries for probing (where the probe can reach). which is not very descriptive?
Gah! I don't understand the domain knowledge for these definitions!
!!giphy probe
@ndugger No promises
Basically it's just laying out the outer boundaries of your auto-leveling probing grid
The idea is to create a square of points near the outer edge of your bed.
I don't see how this correlates to my problem?
03:52
Then when you enter an amount of probes for your grid, it just works within that square
Wait. Actually I do.
One sec.
#define LEFT_PROBE_BED_POSITION 80
#define RIGHT_PROBE_BED_POSITION 190
#define FRONT_PROBE_BED_POSITION 20
#define BACK_PROBE_BED_POSITION 190
Just kidding. This doesn't make sense. These values seem to be opposite of what they should be.
Yup. I'm looking at something on my end atm
Have you figured out the Y_PROBE_OFFSET_FROM_EXTRUDER value you need?
I've got -60 for the X from your caliper measurement
Why would the Y need changed?
It only extends into the X.
If you meant X, the X_PROBE_OFFSET_FROM_EXTRUDER is indeed set to -60.
You'll want that value to make sure your FRONT and BACK probe ppositions are correct
Of course they possibly are
but I'm just laying out a drawing here to help me sort out what you need to set
I've checked. As long as the X is correct, the Y is essentially open space.
03:57
Because these values are indeed a bit goofy to work in your head
Thanks @hilli_micha. Sorry for being a dick. It just seemed you didn't know before.
Its cool mane.
Help needed.
Trying to build a carosel in JS... anyone familiar with that or willing to take a look at the code?
@Allenph You're right though, the A2 is kind of shafted on large support communities.
I'm not sure why though.
It's only a few dollars more and it's much better quality.
@hilli_micha You find anything?
I believe I did. MAX_PROBE_X derives from X_MAX_POS and X_PROBE_OFFSET_FROM_EXTRUDER
But I'm still trying to figure out the correct adjustment becuase on mine, it's not touched, but my MIN values are.
Hmmm...
mmmmuuuhh
It's odd, it should be working, because 205 + (-60) = 145 which is less than 190, so that error shouldn't be coming up?
04:18
@Allenph You've got the X_PROBE_OFFSET_FROM_EXTURDER val set to -60, correct?
@ndugger Minions memes legit depress me
Every time we go to Universal, I just get bummed right out when I see those monsters walking around
@hilli_micha Yeah. It's -60.
Actually @hilli_micha I don't have that I have X_PROBE_OFFSET_FROM_EXTRUDER.
Apparently my version of Marlin does not have a setting for "turder."
04:27
@Allenph Typo, EXTRUDER is right lol
I know. xD
looking for someone to help on some code.
!!welcome @HelloWorldPeace
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04:35
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the problem is that the page responsiceness crashe whenever the carousel is used
!!urban responsiceness
@William No definition found for responsiceness
@hilli_micha Find anything else or should I just keep aimlessly looking? xD
I'm a little stumped. I didn't run into this with my printer when I was setting it up.
04:43
Weird, right?
You could simply subtract your offset value from the X_MAX_POS value to get the end result for the MAX_PROBE_X you want, but that'd be extremely hacky and would possibly result in the Firmware not wanting to go past that value, even for printing.
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@hilli_micha This is the problem I was trying to avoid.
Here's where I'm at, your problem seems to be that MAX_PROBE_X isn't getting what we're expecting. You should be getting a value of 145mm (205 + (-60))
04:45
I got it mostly working, but I lost 40mm of x axis.
@hilli_micha Exactly.
In the Conditionals_post.h file, there is a big block that looks something like this (around line 850 on my end)..
  #if ENABLED(DELTA)
    #ifndef DELTA_PROBEABLE_RADIUS
      #define DELTA_PROBEABLE_RADIUS DELTA_PRINTABLE_RADIUS
    #endif
    // Probing points may be verified at compile time within the radius
    // using static_assert(HYPOT2(X2-X1,Y2-Y1)<=sq(DELTA_PRINTABLE_RADIUS),"bad probe point!")
    // so that may be added to SanityCheck.h in the future.
    #define MIN_PROBE_X (X_CENTER - (DELTA_PROBEABLE_RADIUS))
    #define MIN_PROBE_Y (Y_CENTER - (DELTA_PROBEABLE_RADIUS))
    #define MAX_PROBE_X (X_CENTER +  DELTA_PROBEABLE_RADIUS)
(see full text)
Ahh!
Might it be that my printer auto homes to the center of the bed rather than 0,0?
That poses a question, are you wanting, or is it already configured, that 0,0 is the center of your bed or bottom left?
I actually wanted it to actually be at 0,0.
But couldn't figure out the config.
It's been a minute since I did this, but you can actually define that yourself. A lot of times, 0,0 is the center of the bed.
But some cases its the bottom left.
04:49
I must know too little. I don't understand what you mean.
It seems in the logic you posted though, that may be the key.
0,0 is the origin (where home is), in my experience most of the time that's going to be the center of the bed.
Well that doesn't make much sense to me.
Should I set it to negative half of the print bed dimensions?
Just tried that. Still the same error.
RIGHT_PROBE_BED_POSITION <= MAX_PROBE_X, "RIGHT_PROBE_BED_POSITION can't be reached by the Z probe."
Bah, I'm stumped and its late so I'm operating in a bit of a fog here. One last thing, have you seen the Anet FB group? They have the A2 listed as a printer that the community is centered around.
Mornings

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