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So like, const http = Config.influx.https ? require('https') : require('http');. the Config object isn't available immediately, so I need to run this on an execution level to ensure it's not caching a null
@SterlingArcher require, yes. import, maybe
Ok, part 2, is that bad?
Can't wait until Windows 7 dies in a fire
meh
hate the UI so much now
16:00
it's not great, but it gets done a lot I've seen
prefer winxp over it lol
truff
@Loktar really? Win7 was the only OS that never crashed and burned on me
It was fairly stable for me too, it's just butt ugly
Win 8.1 was even more stable for me though
you're a butt
@Loktar see, I dislike windows 10 UI. but the UI is the least of my concerns. I'm just meh about updating windows. I don't use it enough. if I bought a new pc with 10 I wouldn't downgrade it, but I'm in no rush to upgrade 7
it just is.
16:02
Windows 10 is fucking awesome :p
Why are things called butt ugly
Butts are cute
user2620028
yeah i definitely think windows 10 is good
although that start menu is gross, I still change mine to the full screen one
@SterlingArcher you've never seen mine
user2620028
@SterlingArcher i think this is a fairly recent public opinion
16:03
@Loktar I hate the full screen start menu
at least the W8 version
@KendallFrey it was my fav thing in 8
that is for tablets
I use the search lol
10 still has it, it's just a setting so I always enable it
I can see it being nice for tablets
@KarelG I hit the win key and type
16:04
win key -> type -> enter
yeah same
why do you use full screen then?
How to build a good test suite: 1. Every time you fix a bug, add tests that would have caught it 2. Wait a year or two (There is no step 3.)
because it looks way nicer
huh, I never thought about it this way
16:04
stuff I access frequently is easy to see
for some reason doesn't seem too convincing actually :/
@towc Is that not obvious?
the weird start menu is just convoluted looking
@KendallFrey not to me, no
@Loktar I don't use the start menu for stuff I access frequently
16:05
@KendallFrey you use your desktop?
taskbar mostly
heh yeah I suppose I use that as well
See Windows gives you so many choices
desktop is pretty useless if it's always hidden
the free-est OS ;p
> freedom, at a price.
16:06
@towc I usually skip step 1. That way it's quicker
@Loktar *freest
because english
@rlemon not if you have an MSDN license from work
is that MSDN license free?
For me it is.
MSDN subs are so awesome
16:07
lol
so for us plebs, $$
@rlemon expensive
@KendallFrey yeah they are
@rlemon I mean $90 isn't bad imo for an OS anyway, I paid for my main vs
yea, I'm just poking fun at "free-est"
haha oh yeah I was messing around saying that
oh wat $33 for an audiobook
16:08
VS Community is the tits for me though
I haven't bought windows outside of OEM in a long time tho, so idk if it still costs like $200 or whatnot
Remember VS Express lol
actually I forget how much it is...
/me checks how much I paid
Price: $119.99 Free Shipping for Prime Members (when I bought 8.1)
good god
win10 I got at microcenter though dangit
16:10
@Loktar btw I bought the z506
so can't find the price
why are the cheap things in a PC so expensive
@Mosho oh nice dude
that's what I have, have had them for years, I really like them
not bad, though the sub is puny compared to the z623
yeah the sub could be better for sure
actually here's a little secret... my sub died earlier in the year..
I bought another set from Bestbuy, replaced the sub
and returned them
16:11
lmao
"The sub doesn't work"
smooth
lol I didn't want to rewire everything was just easier that way
but it was crazy I bought these back in idk 2013 maybe? Maybe earlier
and they are exactly the same still lol
@rlemon solid lol
16:12
fuck, now I wanna sub
damn you loktar.
@Loktar I guess that's a good thing
so many carbs
@rlemon LOL
ok, I ignored everyone's recommendations and went with these
> $109.99 Windows 10 home
^ what I paid I think
is has been more than 6 months and I still can't ask a question on stack overflow
Oh Pierce Brown is my cousin actually
lol wat
he's a good writer, that book is great, but I'm just bullshitting
16:13
nice
had me
lol sorry in a stupid mood today, day before vaca starts
Stephen Fry is my uncle
@Rick it'll last forever until you do something about it
@KendallFrey would be cooler if Glenn Frey was
it's not a timeout. it's a weighting thing. you need to answer questions and/or improve your old ones.
16:15
In mathematics, a Frey curve or Frey–Hellegouarch curve is the elliptic curve y 2 = x ( x − a ℓ ) ( x + b ℓ ) {\displaystyle y^{2}=x(x-a^{\ell })(x+b^{\ell })} associated with a (hypothetical) solution of Fermat's equation a ℓ ...
I have been answering question
The lemon, Citrus limon (L.) Osbeck, is a species of small evergreen tree in the flowering plant family Rutaceae, native to Asia. The tree's ellipsoidal yellow fruit is used for culinary and non-culinary purposes throughout the world, primarily for its juice, which has both culinary and cleaning uses. The pulp and rind (zest) are also used in cooking and baking. The juice of the lemon is about 5% to 6% citric acid, with a pH of around 2.2, giving it a sour taste. The distinctive sour taste of lemon juice makes it a key ingredient in drinks and foods such as lemonade and lemon meringue pie. ��2...
lol fuku
@KendallFrey I see that and raise you this youtube.com/watch?v=TpqAUtzWDuw
@Rick answer more, and make sure you don't delete your own shit in the future
that adds to it
16:15
checkmate.
Brown is a composite color. In the CMYK color model used in printing or painting, brown is made by combining red, black, and yellow, or red, yellow, and blue. In the RGB color model used to project colors onto television screens and computer monitors, brown is made by combining red and green, in specific proportions. The brown color is seen widely in nature, in wood, soil, human hair color, eye color and skin pigmentation. Brown is the color of dark wood or rich soil. According to public opinion surveys in Europe and the United States, brown is the least favorite color of the public; the color...
god, we're so famous
.... wtf? lol that's in the article
jAndy? not dark enough
> A bodybuilder who has been suntanning.
that's more of a bronze
16:17
Will do, but I am having a hard time find how to get the computed order property of cssGrid layout item. I can't find that information anywhere
you guys all have normal wiki pages for your names
@Loktar You linked to the image page, not the image
@Loktar lol it's not suntanning
That reminds me I should buy a statue
LMAO that is not someone sun tanning
16:17
wikipedia misinformation
@Mosho lol yeah wtf
his damn skin is melting if so
I want my donation back
it didn't say he didn't also spraytan
he could have also been suntanning
@Loktar It could be
oh ffs
Actually guys jAndy explained that part -- it's a temporary spray tan because of the lighting used at competing shows
16:18
yeah
It helps create a body contract
I find it weird that blackfacing is frowned upon, but "bronzing" your entire body is cool
I feel it's a good question to post on SO
what's blackfacing
^ what it reminds me of tbh
16:18
Is there a convention for @types/ where the library you want types for is already in an npm namespace? e.g. @types/@babel/template
is it really bad brownnosing
@Mosho Painting your face black
To look like someone with dark skin
why is it frowned upon
:40148526 "I know where to look!"
Sarah Silverman, virtue signaler to the extreme with black face.
16:20
lol that's her?
it's what from the 1920's or 30's?, Based on racist caricatures of the time.
@Mosho Because racism
still don't recognize
@OliverSalzburg like, I get that it's about race
but how is it racist
16:21
^ that's why
that was a great follow up
oh
that's a more classic one actually
that style with the crazy hair, you see that a lot in the 1920's ads
@Mosho You don't "dress up" as another race. It's not a costume
@OliverSalzburg it can be?
16:22
@Loktar that reminds me of a pretty good joke
It shouldn't be
why not
Which is what the whole thing is about
@OliverSalzburg Actually not true. I've seen it used as a costume.
I think black face is a bit odd to dress up as, however the whole cultural appropriated shit.. is BS
16:22
@OliverSalzburg if it was an accurate depiction, it might be different.
besides that old movies thing
@Loktar fyi, they wash themselves with a brown oil because it accentuates the muscles
which is not about costumes
Whats the command to format codea gain
don't dutch people have a day of the year where they get blackfaced and distribute candy?
16:23
@OliverSalzburg 😬 so I can never be Mr.T for Halloween?
seems unfair tbh
@KarelG I know ;p the joke was it's in the wikipedia article for Brown, and states the dude is sun tanning lol
Being black is not a custome. Being black is not something that defines a person
ExperimentalWarning: The ESM module loader is experimental.
/home/cswl/repos/fcc_cli_challenges/index.js:1
(function (exports, require, module, __filename, __dirname) { import path from 'path';
                                                              ^^^^^^

SyntaxError: Unexpected token import
Why I get this :|
ah. did not caught the joke then :|
@rlemon You can be Canadian Mr. T
16:23
@OliverSalzburg Wait till you come to America
he's black too tho
off to home
Eh that's like Mr. Eh
@cswl is the import inside a function?
White Canadian
16:23
but I'm red
@rlemon You may only dress as an indian chief
so then I'd be doing whiteface
No.. it barfs even in REPL..
lol
that's racist
16:24
Running the latest stable
@KendallFrey Hey, I'm just as racist as the rest of you. I'm only repeating what I read on Reddit
I dressed up as a mummy as a kid once
node --experimental-modules
> (node:30634) ExperimentalWarning: The ESM module loader is experimental.

> import path from 'path'
...
... ;
...
@OliverSalzburg it's stupid for sure
but I don't see how it's racist
@Loktar racist
16:24
@Loktar you're a sicko, no respect for the dead.
@Mosho the blackface stuff? I think it's just due to it's history from the early 1900's
like, imagine someone who is actually racist
@Mosho Well, you don't have to. People get offended by it. You can chose to ignore that because you "know better" or simply not blackface
@Loktar yeah, I'm talking if we ignore that
ooh right, yeah that's the only one I can see a case for
16:25
@OliverSalzburg I think that's the point for a lot of things
@GNi33 Definitely
@OliverSalzburg so, imagine someone who is actually racist
like hitler
and of course this can go sideways very fast
the rest, not at all
when people start to be offended by pretty much anything
16:25
just like a swastika is really not racist and offensive of itself, but history assigned it a very well defined meaning that makes us hate the shit out of it, I guess
would hitler, the figurehead of racism, dress up as a black man?
there is also context. just having dark schmoo on your face doesn't make it so you're doing 'blackface'
isn't racist
it just is
@Mosho that is meta as fuck, and good point
I still go by the "just don't be a dick" - credo. seems to work out relatively fine
however, I think some racist idiots would totally do that
16:26
the red lips and shoe polish caricature is the problematic part
that we know of?
@Mosho did hitler ever mock anyone though?
that we know of?
fuck wifi
@towc the Russians
Do I also need any other flag than --experimental-modules
@towc the clockwise pointing, slightly turned swastika does have a very clear meaning though
lol
16:27
> Furthermore, do not forget that these rulers belong to a race which combines, in a rare mixture, bestial cruelty and an inconceivable gift for lying, and which today more than ever is conscious of a mission to impose its bloody oppression on the whole world. Do not forget that the international Jew who completely dominates Russia today regards Germany not as an ally, but as a state destined to the same fate.
@GNi33 sure, now
was it racist 100 years agoo?
Hitler on Russians, seems mocking to me
oh come on
@towc I'm sure he did
it didn't exist in that form 100 years ago. so no, it wasn't, I guess
16:28
@Loktar spoken, but did he ever dress up as one and stuff?
I mean he said more about other races too ofc, he definitely mocked people to an extent
I wanna know what new and exciting drugs towc has been on for the past few weeks
wasn't it a religious symbol prior
@towc I doubt he had time to
he's high on life, man
16:28
@KevinB counter-clockwise pointing it still is, yes
@GNi33 well, that's my point. I'm not saying we should make the swastika no longer be a symbol of hate
Screw this shit.. Do i still need to use babel or rollup even in 2017 :|
@ssube life and bath salts.
he was conquering the world for a bit
@Loktar well, then that still defeats mosho's point
16:28
@cswl if you wanna use things before they land, yea
@towc what kind of point are you trying to construct again?
hows that? He hated the Russians he would never dress as one
@cswl depends on what browser you want to support and what code you want to write
I just wanna import
@GNi33 it only got a meaning because of history
16:29
in node?
and ofc we all know his feelings on Jewish people
oh, you should read what he had to say about the "Bolschewiks"
Yeah
well, a negative one
some crazy shit
16:29
just like blackfacing
dressing as a Russian is pretty much just putting on a hat and coat
so I can't imagine him dressing as them either
--experimental-modules doesnt seem to do shit
@towc as did absolutely everything
@towc it's a good point, though you can use nazis as a whole
16:29
that's not a point
node9 is getting es modules right?
just a random commoner nazi
@towc blackface was invented to make fun of people is the thing
Via a flag
who hates everyone except aryan people
16:29
that was the purpose from the beginning
Which is broken
I do think we all agree blackface is wrong though
right what @ssube said, and why it is
like the posters Loktar posted
@ssube I'm agreeing with you
Wait
16:30
@cswl so just use babel for now
once node updates, remove the need for babel if you wanna
you're using the latest version right?
everybody was doing that back then, too, with propaganda posters
I'm just saying that even if now it looks like it doesn't have a meaning, it's still bad because it's historically bad
the one that has said feature behind said flag?
like it's not innocent just being a black character, it's legit a racist caricature
16:30
hmm, interesting
@towc no, it's fundamentally bad
`node --version
v9.2.0
you could dress up as a real black person and it wouldn't be nearly as bad
perhaps tasteless, but that's taste
it's interesting that an expression of racism is dressing up as that race
I wouldnt get this flag if it wasnt supported.. ExperimentalWarning: The ESM module loader is experimental.
16:31
@cswl are you naming your modules .mjs?
well... just blackface @Mosho imo anyway
just due to it's history
if I wanted to be Mr. T that should be totally fine.. but I still wouldn't darken my skin
yeah, I guess if it's only that
@cswl But is it enabled?
it's more about the other recognizable attributes
No I'm importing node core api.. That shouldnt cause SyntaxError..
16:32
just to bring up painful memories to people
like the necklaces, the cut off vest, the Mohawk
I was gonna dress up as Redfoo for halloween
@Loktar yeah, that's a fine line nowadays
I was thinking about this: youtube.com/watch?v=nfwpcfI-Cx0
his intentions seemed pure and nice
16:32
with wig and zebra pants, but then I was on call and had to stay in 😬a
he and his parents may have had no clue of the historical context
@GNi33 yeah I know but people are over sensitive, I don't care about the whole "cultural appropriation" BS since everyone does it
or if anything they didn't want to make him aware of the shitstorm the world is
someone add to the room description? :D
Ah.. shit.. I need to even name the main.js .mjs :|
16:33
it's almost more poopular than 3d-printing
Derp.
@Loktar even I disagree with large parts of that
Now I get it.. lemme try it again
@Neoares nah, javascript implies any framework/lib. Too many tags
too many cooks
america is a melting pot, we should share culture, just don't be shitty about it
16:33
yeah exactly
ok it's been around 2 hours since I decided to go to the post office in the mall
SON OF A BITCH now I have to watch it again @KendallFrey
so now I'm going
shoe polish on your face is definitely shitty :P
yep totally agree
see ya @Mosho
16:33
@towc aside from the actual story... what the hell is Dee Snider doing in this? haha
@Mosho but wait!
Culture is just the things you do. If you say no one can do the things you do you're just being a bitch.
@towc yes?
@SterlingArcher watch what
@Mosho nvm
16:34
@KendallFrey too many cooks
too maaaany cooks
tooooo many cooks
@KendallFrey yeah damnit I want to eat Poutine
s/cooks/cocks/
too many coooooooks?
16:35
it takes a lot to make a stew
sup guys
how's everyone?
but I do have Canadian in my blood actually, which is kind of crazy
Whats the command :|
@ssube on the flip side, how do you feel about people like dave chappelle airbrushing himself white for skits. or the movie "white girls" ? does it work both ways? or has history said mocking white people is fine?
my Grandmother and Grandfathers fam were in Canada for a generation or two
16:35
what's all this salt in here?
@Neoares too many cooks
@Loktar mines were from Slytherin
Hello everyone,
I have set all the things for firebase push notification on my ionic 2 ios app and tried sending through firebase console.

It completes the action correctly but the problem is it can not find any device even though one device is using the app.

Why is this happening.
@Loktar And you think that has something to do with what your blood is made of
poutine is not delicious to welsh people. well known fact.
16:36
@KendallFrey well I'm just saying I am allowed to eat Poutine
because I have papers
@towc now I think I get what you wanted to say. I see it a little different, for me it's basically all about intent
Everyone is, it's fucking delicious
not the welsh
I just said..
I just don't want everyone to eat all of it
@rlemon that one is interesting. Whiteface didn't start off as a "hey, look how much these people suck" thing and afaik just came out of comedy. I guess I'd say it's not as offensive but still definitely tasteless, like an accurate blackface would be.
16:36
@rlemon They don't count
lol I wish more places around here had it
I've only had a real version once
I should try something new for dinner today
not fancy, just new nutrients
please help me someone. I am really stuck since two days
I need to stop chatting, I am being throttled up to 12 seconds at times, sucks.
I was hard throttled by my modem :(
16:37
What about robert downey jr in Tropic Thunder? @ssube
-4
Q: Just a simple app, C° to F° calculator

Alex Contreras Ruizi got this. APP IMG so i want take the value of input and then use to calculate var faren. var celcius = document.getElementsByName("number").value; var faren = ((celcius * 9) / 5) +32; with that in mind ill try to run this function function result (){ if (celcius != ""){ alert.(fare...

@ssube Its interesting to note that, a not-trying-to-be-racist blackface is still worse (viewed) than a meant-to-be-racist whiteface
I don't recall a shitstorm from that one
s/modem/penis/
ok not quite but my internet went down for a few minutes a bit ago and I was unhappy
16:38
@KendallFrey dat Net Neutrality!
@SterlingArcher people complained quite a bit
function result (){
if (celcius != ""){
    alert.(faren);
} else {
    alert."No DATA");
}
};
iirc
again, tasteless but funny
@rlemon that's fair
@KevinB beautiful
16:38
like the movie White Girls.
i love that movie
@rlemon yeah, which is the whole equity vs equality thing.
and historical meaning
anyone here with firebase push notification experience?
@masud_moni not looking like it
it used to be really shitty, so people are still touchy about it, even if on its face they are the same now
16:39
I imagine all of us read your question
!!tell masud_moni welcome
@masud_moni Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
!!yoghurt+oats or meat or try something else
@towc yoghurt+oats
oh God...
16:39
he asked it @SterlingArcher just not a ton of info or interesting
Firebase isn't a common topic here
!!afk scubway, @Loktar you bastard.
lmao enjoy @rlemon
I don't think anyone here knows firebase well
I just want to say, I think we have a pretty good chat group lately
16:40
i am sorry but i am really in deep problem which made me desperate to at least getting some attantion
it's not terribly popular with companies
we've talked about some touchy subjects that haven't gone insane
Why doesnt node.js documentation have a search feature :|
+1 to the room, pat yourselves on the back
@Loktar do you want a shitstorm? Cause I'll give you a shitstorm!
16:42
😬 yeah I shouldn't have said anything
@cswl there's still google
lol idk I've actually enjoyed being in the room lately, idk what really changed but most people lately seem cool af
which would likely do a better job than any search feature they implemented anyway
god, I love this keyboard already
@GNi33 Which?
16:43
@Loktar I've been busy.
@GNi33 glad you do, sometimes I feel like I'm in the minority with reds
@Luggage psh I meant you too
Gigabyte K83, but basically a Cherry Red mech
@Loktar tbh I think we kicked the full blown nothing-but trolls just enough and largely avoided doing it to regs
Okay so.. __dirname is not defined for .mjs modules..
I'm a big fan of yours though 2.9
16:43
or it's just a quiet patch
my home keyboard is reds
mine is too, now
blues are great, but reds are quite nice
reds for all
mine is blacks and greens
they were too loud at work in spite of being sold as 'quiet'
16:44
did anyone see justice leage?
I didn't have complaints, but I felt I was too loud
I'm going full corsair with my peripherals, I guess
i didnt even know it came out
they actually made my fingers tired (blues)
I'd come home to my reds and my fingers would actually feel stressed was weird
I have a model M that never even did that to them
I think they're heavier. The reds are easier to press, it took some getting used to.
16:45
Which makes sense.. since CJS modules get wrapped and called with __dirname :|
I still occasionally double type stuff because they're so light, but my typing speed overall went up a touch
the office is an open floor plan, so I doubt I'll get to take the keyboard to the office :(
How do I gets __dirnames in .mjs now
@ssube yea they definitely are heavier
greens are even worse
@cswl why are you mixing CJS and MJS in the same file?
16:46
@GNi33 you can get dampeners for them
yeah, I know. I'll look into them
@Loktar one of my keyboards has greens for shift and space, iirc, and blues elsewhere. That was a nice combination.
ah ok, yeah only annoying thing is putting them on each key..
I'm not.. I'm just trying to get the dir which my .mjs file is in.
16:47
@ssube oh interesting, I'd be ok with something like that on mine actually for those keys
the black switches are pretty heavy too, used those for a bit
yeah I think those are like the blues for linears
maybe? It felt like a cheapo dell keyboard with half a lunch in it
just mushy as all hell
reds are 45 cN and blacks are 60 cN I guess keyboardco.com/blog/index.php/2012/12/…
I've never tried black MX keys personally though, I just knew they were harder to press than cherry reds
I want to try clears as well, apparently even lighter than reds
I could use.. process.cwd(); but the current dir might not be where my script file is.. .mjs why you do this :|
16:50
ah nm clears are not linear.
you probably shouldn't rely on __dirname for imports anyway...
@ssube ahh, my old keyboard. but a full lunch
@Loktar the time before with all the permanent trolls was pretty exhausting, now it seems very fine
@KendallFrey can't watch that here, what is it? a mini episode? teaser?
16:50
yeah definitely agree @GNi33 I think that is the actual difference
teaser or something
What do you call a teaser that comes after the show? Might be that
made me weepy :)
I needed to take some steps back then. Lately I'm more or less constantly on the edge due to being overworked, I'm glad I didn't really lash out in chat once
I almost quit chat entirely
but, I really like some people here so meh, glad I stuck it out
messing with them is funny for a bit, but we let it go too far
Well I could if I was using CJS.. but at the moment there is no way for a .mjs to get the directory it is in..
16:53
way too far
back in 45 we kicked a lot of trolls too
and Nazis
same thing :P
haha
they were just trolling everybody
16:54
Imagine Hitler going "It was just a prank" when the Russian tanks rolled into Berlin?
I was thinking trolling in the sense of taking a nonsense position and rabidly defending it just to argue, but that would be much funnier
u mad bro?

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