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19:02
eh, there's some flaw in our system that i haven't been able to track down that causes it to stop responding to requests with no errors or info in logs. It anywhere from 0-1 times per month. I call it cfml
1:100 clients are reporting errors I cannot solve/track down
3 in the past two weeks.
1 I was able to at least identify the problem (the require one)
but not what caused it
they are inconsistent consistent errors (if that makes sense)
are you not able to get stacktraces for them? i know that's difficult it being client-side and all
@KevinB no, it isn't client side.
and I don't have all of the hardware
I'm remote debugging without access to code
trying to determine how a process failed by looking at how other things are affected
and then ofc once I get the hardware back, I have logs but I cannot (ever, so far) reproduce the issue in house
:flip-table:
what's this new issue?
@ssube device runs fine for 0-2hours, then stops communicating. when it stops the entire network locks. IF they remove the device, the network stops being stupid, so I told them to check with their isp. They did a remote update on their modem (line of sight tower) and now it no longer locks the network. but still stops communications.
their isp swears up and down they are not killing the ssh connection
my server sees it being terminated from the client
that's all I have to work with right now
19:16
is the node process crashing for any of these?
or shutting down with errors?
I don't know
I don't think you guys understand me when I say I have zero access
do you wrap node with a crash report tool?
imagine you can look at a rpi and check blinking lights. that's all I have
if not, that might be the first change to make, at least get you some exit-time logs
@ssube and do what with it? send out no information on no internet accoutn?
log it to a file I cannot access
?
I shot myself in the ass by not putting in a back door
but the back door wouldn't even help in these situations. the best I can hope for is a IT guy on site with a card reader who can email me the logs
which doesn't often happen.
19:18
right
I realise I put myself in this situation (mostly) but unfortunately I cannot rectify that until the season is over.
I already have code written, but cannot remote update them till the season is over
I don't expect answers here, I'm just ranting / stressed out
long week and it's only tuesday
is there anything that only those 3 clients are doing?
wonky internet setups
maybe they're all involved in some illegal crop dusting that is breaking stuff
some x-files type shit
all of them have something funny about their network.
19:21
@rlemon wonky how?
but none are the same
I just witnessed what nobody should ever witness in a client meeting.
!!afk I can't even
@SterlingArcher somebody's dangle?
one is cellular modem, another is line of sight satellite tower going back to their isp who is doing god knows what, another the isp is borrowing their tower for a T1 connection for the town, then giving him a free line
all of them have a possiblity of fucking with my ssh tunnel
you have a long-running ssh tunnel that everything goes over?
19:22
yes
do you do anything to re-establish it if it goes away?
yup
and works 99/100
if the client connection is dead for a few minutes I check if there is still a proc, kill it, verify it is dead, then re-issue the ssh command.
probably not the best approach, but so far has worked (and I really don't understand ssh as well as I should)
that sounds good enough
@BenFortune btw, thanks, that worked.
the message passing crap that is
19:26
!!afk
20:02
Whoa. ios10 safari has full es6 coverage 😎
but it still isn't google chrome
and you still can't change default browser
@ndugger that is a real feel
i often end up with safari running in the background with a few dozen tabs
ios10 might have the best ES6 support @ 100% but it's backwards compat support is half. Node and chrome alone support upwards of 80-90% in older versions
But then again as a proponent of "fuck legacy" good for you, Apple. Nicely done
about damn time safari got es6
nevermind, apparently a bunch of engines went and implemented TCO anyway
20:12
TCO?
that's going to be fun, code for safari won't work in other engines
tail call optimizations, the least useful feature of es6
notice how fuckin nobody did it because it's breaky and essentially useless
@copy Congrats!!!!!!
wait wut?
this is equal parts impressive and stupid af
is that another one of those showing how to charge a phone with a battery and some wires
yea
but he's using a pencil as a voltage splitter
lipo batteries go BOOM if you over charge them
I would NOT recommend even attempting this
I am one salamander away from having the 8 fusion foods the fusion foods for ifrit. It'll be leveling and awakening for a couple weeks :(
Overclock your CPU with a pencil
Oh neat, a L/D Scroll from hitting lvl 40
page 2 has how to do it, actually what you had to do which is crazy lol
a pencil will work as a resistor. but so will a lot of other things. like resistors.
in situations like these I'll be glad I always have my laptop bag which has my battery bank and mini solar charger
20:26
yeah but solar won't work if the sun is blocked by volcanic ash!
can't stress enough how critical it is to have a good usb battery bank. they only cost like $20 and can store a good deal of power
not that it is impossible to go without, but once you have one you notice how useful they are
i had one...
well, have
it was DOA
meh I have a car and a pencil
ouch
it's a paperweight now
20:27
@Loktar 😃
but is your phones battery removable?
most today are not
well, not easily anyway
so they want me to give my cat antibiotics and eye drops for a week prior to the surgery
... do they know cats?!
depends on the cat. My old cat would let me do those things
20:30
she's fine with most stuff. doesn't like me opening her mouth. actually hates it
and the eye drops are thick. so you have to put the nub under her eye lid
yea. I had to give him pills. put them in his mouth and make him swallow
she isn't having any of that either
yea..
crush it, put it in a dropper with a little water, and squirt it in.
still a pain in the ass, but... not as bad
I can't imagine the eye thing being easy. That's jst reflex tto want to avoid things getting close to your eye
20:31
once a day for the antibiotics (liquid with an eye dropper orally) and twice a day for eye drops
if it were a pill, would be easier
the liquid antibiotics weren't* bad. hold open the mouth, dorop it in
I tried, she chokes then swallows half of it then spits the rest out (for you 'phrasers', I'm talking about giving my cat medicine)
my cat had to wear a cone for a while. I would take it of while I was around and then to put it back on, I'd jsut call the cat over (which it would likely be by my side anyway) and it'd let me put it back on. very un-cat-like
that's like going to the vet for her.
on the way there > crying bloody murder (she hates car rides)
on the way home > "NO ONE IS STICKING ANYTHING IN MY BUTT! THIS IS THE BEST CAR RIDE EVER!"
I had no desire to do this, but it would probably have let me dress it.
20:35
when she got home from the vet, my other cat wanted nothing to do with her for like 8 hours. I think he could smell the vet
or other animals
isn't that what the vet smells like 😉
i guess. and various cleaning agents
and doom
I just feel bad, I have to torture her for the next week giving her medicine she doesn't like taking then take her in for a surgery that will undoubtedly leave her in more pain until she recovers.
20:37
what is wrong with your cat? you mentioned her puking the other day
(and likely still have to give medicine after)
eye infection (likely caused by..) and her molar is rotting out
so she has to have the tooth removed
oh, that's not so bad
nahh, but she's got a fever now and shit. the doc showed me the tooth, it looks knarly
I also feel bad it went on so long, she never showed signs of being in discomfort
but her tooth is like gone.
gross
is it bad enough to prevent using treats to offset the eye-dropper business?
that is, can you bribe your cat enough?
20:40
she still eats. which is a major sign of a cat being upset (not eating)
cat's don't bargain.
ever since one of the recent atom updates i can't get a terminal to open in atom
so until she got the fever and started being sick / acting strange I never suspected it
@Luggage everybody has a price
@ssube I wonder how they sleep at night
20:42
i don't get it?
@ssube Jessie J
now I'm gonna have to listen to that song to get the reference, but it looks like a bad song :(
It's really awful
on a scale from Friday to I Fucked The DJ...?
oh, I've heard that before, it's not that bad
hmm.. my express server stops responding every once in a while (days to weeks) and I'm not sure why..
20:54
memory leak?
is there a term to define code that only performs javascript animations when page is scrolled down ?
memory use is fine. never goes up
@havingagoatit some might call it parallax, but they'd probably be wrong ( depending on the actual animation )
it's just animation on scroll otherwise
is it a waypoint javascript function ?
20:57
"reveal on scroll" if you want to be fancy
sounds great thanks
ahh found the problem, i think. database connection. At the same time as the server stopped responding, I have 10 of theses in the postgres log:
unexpected EOF on client connection with an open transaction
and I have a connection pool of 10.
@rlemon and there I was thinking it would be some sort of intricate set of timing devices to go off hah
user2620028
21:05
hola
so I just tried this before leaving the office. I'm running a node express server.

I looped through a response containing two json objects. On the first iteration I passed these to mssql stored procedure. This posts to the DB as expected.
But..on the second iteration the POST fails, i.e, calling the stored procedure a second time with passing in the second objects data crashes the server
Anyone know if express doesn't allow one insert after another?
What do your logs say the error is from?
DO you know the error?
I'm not at my other machine now, but I think it said "..Can't set headers after they are sent"
so the first insert returned a successful insert, then second insert bombed out the server
the error... is kinda self explanatory
I was using the prepared statement from mssql node
21:12
you probably did res.send() twice.
ah ok
possibly
so I should do the res.send after the loop has finished inserting the new records
it may be inside the loop at the moment
yeah, you'd want to wait for them both to finish.
"by showing that Bluebird does short-circuit" Note, have actually not tried Bluebird .map(). What do you mean by "short-circuit"? All of the functions have already been called, then .map() awaits the results, yes? — guest271314 58 secs ago
wtf is this person/bot even talking about
@ssube Hmm, I wonder how it works with Bluebird's {concurrency: } option
man, that's like the fourth question today I've seen with completely off-base comments from that one user, come to think of it
is it one of those university answer bots?
@MadaraUchiha that's a good follow up
21:19
i've seen that user around quite a bit lately around javascript/jquery tags
-1
Q: In JavaScript can Object identifier by assigned a different value?

guest271314While trying different approaches to answer How to filter Object using Array.prototype.filter?. Found this approach function isObject(value) { return Object(value) === value; } at Why is there not a built-in method in JavaScript to check if an object is a plain object?. Given that have bee...

He's 49.5k
I doubt he's a bot
> While... at... given... Your present inquiry has found...
I've gained ~3k in the past few years without answering any questions
I don't understand that question/answer pair. the answer doesn't seem to be... an answer, or make sense,
21:24
@Shmiddty that's because you have a bunch of +30 answers already
@ssube 1 isn't a bunch, silly
How to compile bluebird.js to run in browser? — guest271314 25 secs ago
what the actual fuck
i answered more this year than i thought, 30 or so answers
@Shmiddty ok, fine, but your top 5 are all +19 or better
majority of rep though still likely came from the 2k or so old answers
21:27
majority of rep came from deleting bad answers, for that one guy
I downvoted that question you linked (because it was unclear and generally poor) and it's already been deleted
It wouldn't be difficult to create a bot that simply googles a question and posts top results
@Shmiddty you mean reposting the SO answers?
pretty much
but some uni folks did that, they have a bot running
21:29
he's doubled my answer count in half the time
or did for a while?
eh, no not doubled
but beat
never thought about that
if they mimic english, why not other languages
@rlemon ha, that's great
@rlemon comments are interesting on that one 0.o
either Assange is missing or he was faking most of it from the beginning
I'd lean toward the latter
dunno
21:47
@ssube faking what?
@ssube my bet is Russia
there's other evidence that seems to go towards the first
These are hashes from encrypted non released files
not things already released
but as a Canadian everything is Russia or Quebec
@Loktar the files he claimed to have as a safeguard
21:47
the emails can be verified via dkip and many have
so my options are limited
amazing.
wrong milk and wrong sugar? that person should not be allowed to cook
21:49
eh, swapping things in cooking is fine. baking not so much
lmao
This is my favorite bot
> I mean, that isn't bad math until the fifth decimal place.
just lmao
@Meredith that's perfect
@rlemon You're allowed to swap in baking, you just gotta know what the substitutions do
21:51
oh wow, I might be one of those stupid people
my point is it is a lot more forgiving in non baking
I thought SO had changed to a terrible thin font, but I was actually at 90% zoom all day
@Meredith This is why democracy can never work.
@KendallFrey fat people?
ok thanks @KevinB I'll have a poke at it tomorrow
21:56
I think she's british
Nobody says full cream milk in america
that just goes to prove it
@Meredith But only in Canada do we have homo milk
Homo milk is the best milk
homo milk is all fancy and has to be refrigerated
21:58
all milk should be refrigerated
so, our geography teacher asked us to write a paragraph or two evaluating the pros and cons of nuclear fission, getting the resources from a simple google. Ofc what my schoolmates will be covering the first few pages in an attempt to not pick the same resources as everyone else. Anyone know some non immediately out-there resources just listing interesting pros and cons of nuclear fission?
I just drink my milk straight out of the water buffalo
@rlemon milk should be consumed warm, straight from the teat
I tried milking my almonds, I failed.
went to sobeys
non-homo milk can sit out for, what, 3 days?
21:59
Maybe
@towc nuclear fission is physics. it has no pros nor cons.
But you have to shake it
just goes to show that jesus probably wasn't homogenized
@ssube as someone who grew up on skim, it goes bad (non drinkable) in a few hours
And your kids end up looking like the milkman
21:59
You meant to refer to electricity generation using nuclear fission?
nuclear fission based useful energy gathering systems. But you know what I meant
@rlemon yep, regular store milk doesn't last. The homogenization kills all germs, including the goodish ones that keep it fresh longer.
pro - Oil companies lose money

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