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15:00
@Shea how laws work
I could say, "you sniff farts," but no one cares until I give them pictures.
if you say you are 12 on SO chat, you then have to prove you are not in order to keep your account (if a mod sees it). SO is legally binded to ensure you are legal age.
same with saying you are multiple entities
SO is now obligated to ensure you are not, at which point the burden of proof is on you
@SterlingArcher can't do tomatos with it :'(
@SterlingArcher I like it.
15:02
@rlemon new project? imgur.com/gallery/AfgnY
difference is, it's not illegal to have multiple people on a single internet account. it's just against the rules.
@ndugger yup, planning on one (or two)
puttin a bar in my basement and two taps
I'd love to make one, but I don't have all the tools. I might be able to convince my father to use some of his
I'm trying to find something premade and affordable
@Shea Neither is it illegal for a 12 year old to make an account on Stack Overflow
15:04
@ndugger and then comes the long search for awesome bar chairs
@KendallFrey COPPA
@KendallFrey pretty sure <13 cannot have social media accounts by law in usa
@FilipDupanović I could build those
@rlemon Isn't that a law about the companies themselves?
It's illegal for SO to allow 12 year olds to make accounts
@rlemon @ssube Thanks anyway
15:05
@KendallFrey Not illegal, but against ToS.
@badp check out 2ality (it is a blog)
Yes illegal
very helpful
1 min ago, by Kendall Frey
@Shea Neither is it illegal for a 12 year old to make an account on Stack Overflow
This is against the TOS
it's called COPPA
15:07
@ndugger me envious :O! I could maybe risk doing bulky log furniture, because stuff looks beautiful no matter how it turns out
@Shea yeah that's what I'm basing my statements on
HURRY, GET TO DA 🚁
Man I'm really tempted to get that Joe Rodeo and look like I sell dope
@Trasiva it is illegal
15:09
making an account on SO, without parental consent, would be illegal for a child under 13, because it allows them to communicate with strangers online.
@SterlingArcher if you have a big watch, you're legally obligated to trade your audi in for a merc or chrysler
@Shea it's illegal for SO to collect the data
what is actually illegal is SO having an account for people younger than 13 without parental approval paperwork
but it's six of one, half a dozen of the other
there's a lot illegal about it
the end result is fire is applied to your account
@ssube BMW brah
15:09
they fine SO, not arrest the kid
@FilipDupanović right, how many drug dealers have you met that drive a bimmer?
@ssube Them having an account isn't illegal, it just requires SO to get parental consent. So instead, SO just made it so the UA states that you can't have an account if you're 12 and under.
what's your point?
anyway thanks ~
@ssube the BMW is the prodigal wheeler for dope dealers in Europe
@Trasiva without the consent, it is illegal to collect personal information for people under 13.
15:10
Mercs are for execs and bums that saved up cash for one from the 80s
SO chooses not to do the consent forms, so the accounts are illegal.
@FilipDupanović it's the opposite here. You'll get laughed out of the valet garage if you have a merc below an SL*, but bimmers are always welcome.
some people really get off on technicalities
players ride tricked out BMWs here
is there a word for that?
C-class mercs and 300s are for dope dealers
@Shea Jan-y or pedantic
15:11
@Shea Defense lawyers.
@ssube have not known that. Did hear though that Mercs are considered to be far superior to Lexuses
@FilipDupanović are we still talking about whether they make you look like a drug dealer, or the actual quality of the car?
Because the nice mercs are really nice, it's just the C class and the next one up that are garbage.
oh, what happened to VW in the states for cheating the emission tests? did it blow out or is everyone to remain permanently pissed at their conglomerate?
Same with bimmer's 1 and 2-series
@FilipDupanović Not just VW, there's at least 10 other companies that did the same thing
I don't think anything has come of it yet
15:13
@BenFortune companies not owned by VW?
@ssube Yep
woooow, so it was all the other manufacturers under VW?
@FilipDupanović VW Group has agreed to at least $500m, maybe a few b in fines, and either fixing or buying back many of the cars.
It was a particular motor
which they used in the VW brand, Audi brand, and a couple others
The fines and stuff are still to come. But they're offering to fix or buy back the offending vehicles.
@ssube geez, just how much are cars made out of generic parts today?
> Volkswagen agreed on Thursday to fix or buy back nearly 500,000 diesel cars in the United States that are equipped with illegal emissions software.
@ssube You wouldn't want it fixed though, they'd have to reduce the power in your car
@FilipDupanović cars have always used somewhat generic parts, especially for the transmission. Getrag made half of the european brand's transmissions for decades.
Plus, the VW group owns a dozen different brands and shares parts.
@BenFortune you don't buy a VW or Audi for the power, brah
> The models with the cheating software in the United States include Volkswagen, Audi and Porsche cars with 2-liter or 3-liter diesel engines from the model years 2008-15.
Why doesn't this work:
`
var thing = { this.thing[index] : index }
`
--> Uncaught SyntaxError: Unexpected token .
15:17
@SuperNoob it's the other way around
I guess
Why are you using this?
Not sure what you're trying to achieve.
{ index : this.thing[i] } ?
@SuperNoob You need ES6 for that.
I'm getting a very strange module problem :|
someting completely different this time
this.thing[index] will not work
15:18
{ [this.thing[index]]: index }
@BenFortune ES6?
holy shit what does that do
@littlepootis Computed property names
foo({message});
we went over it this morning
it's a feature you'll need like once, ever, but will absolutely need it that one time
@BenFortune ohhhh that is different
neat
til
15:20
Okay. So I'm operating in a vacuum of knowledge. There has to be a better way to handle data in .js Obbjects and arrays. I spend too much time writing for loops
x->y
@BenFortune, thanks that worked.
Sorry, couldn't resist
@BenjaminGruenbaum SPOILER ALERT
15:20
@SuperNoob Keys must be strings, not variables
@rlemon, you are correct, so I'm trying to get back to X
Excuse me everybody, someone can help me in java wateshed ?
@MTStuart Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
@MTStuart Java is not JavaScript
if by java you mean, java, prob not
15:21
@GNi33 Pretty good!
@corvid not true anymore
@BenjaminGruenbaum <3 the simplicity
@ssube As in, you'd have to use the [variable]: value syntax
Alright @CapricaSix
@corvid ok, yeah
15:22
so, it wrong ? @littlepootis i ask like that ? im sorry
@MTStuart They're totally different languages.
@GNi33 If you liked the postrock stuff I sent you, try this as well youtube.com/watch?v=RJCLnFOfFKQ
15:24
alright @littlepootis. Can i ask ? how the way to chat between 2 people ? not in group
Good afternoon all...
@MTStuart No, this room is for ECMAScript, not Java.
I don't know Java.
.
@BenjaminGruenbaum Have you played with elm? I have a coworker that really wants to try it out
15:25
Let me ask it this way. There's a json object { area1 : {blah: 'bbb'}, area2: {blah: 'asdf'}} I using an array to track the index of each area as it is moved on the dom, e.g. [ {area1: column1}, {area2: column2 } ] What's a good/elegant method to keep track of this?
Is it possible to edit pictures on the client side (without uploading to server first)?
@iroegbu using HTML Canvas, yes - but they need CORs headers or served from your domain. cross origin images will taint your Canvas
no problem @littlepootis. can you answer my question ? how to make chat from someone profile ?
@MTStuart I can't answer your question because
1 min ago, by little pootis
I don't know Java.
!!tell iroegbu mdn FileReader
15:27
@iroegbu Something went on fire; status 403
shit, cap
or yea, from your pc
@ndugger well, it just changed a lot, so now is a good time to learn
Okay... thanks.
15:28
@SuperNoob to keep track of what? are you having trouble getting access to the correct area data in a specific column?
The page has dom "area" panels. The user has the abilility to sort them. I need to keep track of their relative position (which column) since JSON objects aren't indexed by position, I have an array 'mirror' the keys, { area1: column1 } so I can save their position for the next page load.
Is there a reason you can't just use the array of objects to model your data from the getgo?
@KevinB No. Other than lack of understanding of how PHP json_encode works. I put an array through json_encode( $array, true), but js reads it as an object
I thought about that too, but it's easier to manage when using his approach.
@SuperNoob What does the second argument do?
15:35
And, I need key:thing so I can access thing.stuff w/ out looping all day
@SuperNoob true isn't a valid parameter
does true coerce to 1 in php?
damn, coerce isn't the correct term is it
Cast?
Also yes
@BenFortune You're correct, It's just json_encode($array)
@SterlingArcher found you a watch www1.macys.com/shop/product/…
15:39
@SuperNoob It's not, it's whatever bitmask options === 1.
Why are the coolest watches over $300,000 :(
That watch is only $75--get it
Unless you meant you omitted the true.
@rlemon You'd have to cast it to int, but yea.
@BenFortune, right, I mean to say I wrote it wrong in here, in my code it's json_encode($array)
15:40
JSON_HEX_TAG => 1
Fairy doodles
Right, so back to what I'm doing, mirroring the JSON object on load with an array, then for-looping to track index, that's just...how it's gotta' be?
I hate gold watches, they always look so tacky
Cheaper than a Richard Mille lol
15:43
@SterlingArcher Dude, $700 and you almost have a new computer.
You can't even tell time on that; You'll just get distracted by the gears
@SuperNoob You can for..in an object, but you better send an actual array
@ndugger this
@ndugger that's the point!
15:43
@Trasiva yeah... that's a big one for me lol
I was thinking more practical
You're thinking flashy
I can respect that
Watches aren't practical anymore lol
They say "Hey, look at me!"
trueché
@SterlingArcher "I have teh money!"
15:44
@SterlingArcher "spectacles, testicles, wallet, and watch" has become "sunglasses, keys, wallet, and phone"
My uncles neighbor has a watch collection estimated at 3.7 million USD
> testicles > keys
they both hang low
Random question... if you get a vasectomy, do you get to keep the balls?
8
15:45
@SterlingArcher "I have money, if you think you can get me to part with some f it, you can sleep with me."
@SterlingArcher ...
Don't judge me, food.
@SterlingArcher ...
> food
YOU SAY ... BUT I DONT HEAR AN ANSWER
> food
15:46
cc @Loktar shed some light please
@SterlingArcher p.sure, yeah
they just cut the hoses
Wait, are they not removed?
Sadly, no
... Jordan, you're fucking weird
No, they don't cut your balls off
15:48
You don't become a eunuch
no food for you
Is that what you thought a vasectomy was all this time, @SterlingArcher?!
He's asking for a friend
So like... if you have sex... does nothing come out at the end? ._.
#AskingTheRealQuestions
15:49
......
@SterlingArcher Jesus Jordan. How the hell do you not drown in your cereal in the morning?
Hey don't judge me I'm probably going to get a vasectomy one day
Hahaha, that's incredible. They just nip the vas deferens. Nothing potent comes out at the end
ITS NOT SOMETHING YOU JUST RANDOMLY RESEARCH
I don't think the fluids come from the balls
15:50
Only Judy can Judge me
You're randomly researching it right now--you just came to us instead of google, pun intended
@SterlingArcher What are you talking about?
@SterlingArcher me too, for sure
Take a sex ed course or something.
15:51
Actually I broke my knee in high school and missed the sex ed birth video
So I did miss a lot
and srsly, how do you not know where the stuff comes from?
it's a two part thing that gets mixed on demand
So my balls are just the cement mixer
Nice
@SterlingArcher nah man
15:52
they make the cement
I said "Nice"
sement
your balls hang low because the little fishes will die if they get to 98 degrees
it gets mixed with other shit on the way out
the gravy comes from inside you and they get mixed on the way through
15:53
oh my god
it's less like gravy and more like syrup
full of sugar
@KendallFrey speak for yourself
eugh ufhfged
15:53
@ssube we Canadians have maple-shaped sperm
silly question about Elm: can you use it now for writing applications across all platforms or is it only compatible with web APIs? (have no experience with Elm)
almost anything dies when it gets to 98 degrees celsius
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oh yeah fucking celsius
@ndugger suddenly this conversation has added a whole new meaning to "syrup sucking"
jesus christ
15:56
@KendallFrey I'm dying.
@JanDvorak it's 60 degrees celsius to make edible matter safe for consumption, depending on what organisms you're concerned about
gravy is not edible
it is with fries and cheese curds

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