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13:00
@MadaraUchiha It tried to can it once, but the outrage was enough that they brought it back.
@Trasiva english parsing error
ah
I think I got it
uh... "can" means "destroy"?
yes
Literally: throw in the trash
"can it" == "shut up"
Ok I lied.
"can him" == "fire him"
it has a variety of implementations
It means something else in the UK
Ok it means 5 things.
and "can op" == "dystroy"
13:03
What a shit phrase l0l
@DenysSéguret wow
Fuck Java
instructions unclear, dick stuck in FactoryMethodControllerClass
@Feeds I wish my computer broke sometime so I could finally switch to gpt :( fucking arch never crashes
@AwalGarg That's a really weird complaint to have.
13:05
Boss wanted me to wrap our WMS in an android app so we can use barcode scanners on tablets.
There's no easy way to do anything at all.
@AwalGarg Didn't yous witch to gpt ages ago?
@littlepootis I planned to do that, yes.
@BenFortune webview?
@rlemon Yep
Never again
I switched back to mbr
13:07
you don't matter
k
There aren't many downsides
Not every distro supports uefi ootb
aflit does! \o/
aflit doesn't matter
quite literally
it has over 200 downloads which is not far away from outgrowing windows and ubuntu
so it does matter
13:10
sure honey
I bet aflit is used more than haskell
@SterlingArcher 3pm-morning
@SterlingArcher o/
@AwalGarg no, I think haskell has more than 0 user
13:11
@@ssube pppppppping!
there's @BartekBanachewicz at least
@FlorianMargaine shut up just because you are cto doesn't mean you don't have to care about our marketing >:(
@AwalGarg wow it has less stars than my Haskell framework
Well, I had a stressful weekend, but I paid off my credit card debt as of today so that's fun
Go get some more!
13:18
@SterlingArcher always fun to keep the policemen in swat uniforms from bursting in your home for another day
@BartekBanachewicz well.. uhh.. I mean we don't really use github much for this.. hides
is it better to make an img clickable or give a button an img? Or are there no differences?
<button type="image">
ah ok. didn´t know that type ^^ thanks
watchuwan, @rlemon
13:31
synology NAS as a smtp server
I'm a little confused by the setup
you ever done it?
Hnnngggg dat authorization working hnnnggggg
@rlemon once for alerts, I think? I don't mess with mail much but I have set up growl a few times
@rlemon are u sure that button type=image exists? Or did you mean input type=image? It is no where listed
@IntercoolerTurbo yea that
13:34
@ssube all I want is something to relay nodemailer off
Guys, don't flag that -.-
that won't end up in the trash bin
@rlemon there are online services for that
e.g. sendgrid
they all want a lot of overhead to prove I'm not a spammer
I don't care to deal with that shit
farmers want to know when their shit is on fire
then you'll be flagged as a spammer...
13:36
yes, but you can setup your own smtp and not be flagged -- or so i've read
eh, it can still get flagged
you read it wrong
as long as they get the option to unflag it
your farmers use gmail, right?
There's a long canonical Q on email with good info
13:37
cool. got a link?
because "nope, use a service" isn't a helpful answer. but thanks @FlorianMargaine
no, still on the bus
seriously, there's something more important than "don't reinvent crypto", it's "don't reinvent email"
What got flagged?
Is there any bank for javascript libraries like there is for blood aka blood bank ?
@SterlingArcher "Fuck Java"
13:38
it ends with "nope, use a service" tho
@FlorianMargaine Wow, that's a neat word! How'd you come across it?
classic flags
so how do these services get whitelisted?
obviously it is possible.
@rlemon the "service" is an smtp server that you use to get its reputation
13:38
Money?
Mathematics ?
@FlorianMargaine yes, I'm aware.
Is there an import equivalent of just require('module');?
the question wasn't "how do I email" it was "how do I email on my own server"
rep and load balancing, which is important to not getting flagged
balancing when you send messages is a big deal
13:39
@rlemon "time and money"
in PHP, 6 hours ago, by Florian Margaine
!!wotd
Ah, sweet
larrupingly so.
@FlorianMargaine that command picks up random words from dictionary?
What if I associated 2 most commonly used together character in a js file i.e jQuery & did this multiple time to reduce character number than un-wrapped it ... wouldn't it decrease the file size of my code?
@AwalGarg yes, of course.
13:40
if you're sending just a couple messages, you might be able to get away with your own server. Google webmaster shit might have a button for that, too.
who is interested in JS here ?
Fuck JS
or maybe it uses some kind of service to get actually interesting words.
v ahh
13:41
Pretty sure it uses a feed like that, not a random word
Yeah, lol
Just saw the source myself
user6225166
JS is awesome
user6225166
and jquery the best
jQuery is my favorite language
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13:46
Hi guys, sorry me again, this article stackoverflow.com/questions/14220321/… reference promises can i still declare a variable of the result, and use this further down? Im assuming i can?
@Sippy vanillaJS > jQuery
@Cerbrus nah man
user6225166
you can't
vanillaJS is a framework anyway
@KirstyHarris you don't know when the return is happening
you seem to be very confused about sync/async
2
13:47
!!s/nah/yah/
@Cerbrus @Cerbrus yah man (source)
i am a little, :S
rastaaaaaa
odata.query.builder.js --- this is what I am after....
user6225166
@KirstyHarris the only way is using a callback in wich you use the value result
13:48
all i wanted was to look up something from an ip and pull information from that ip (IE. the Town) and use that as a global variable to construct a URL @rlemon
i guess i am missing the point somewhere :S
@Cerbrus this doesn't support IE8, so I am trying to find more of it on WWW, I believe someone might have updated version working with IE8
Next time, mention that requirement immediately.
user6225166
the probleme is much toogther than i throught
13:51
i mean I get the point of async i think, the guy has put it in context, make a call, and when its got an answer it goes something
@Cerbrus sure, thanks for that, I will add it next time in start
@KirstyHarris go read some docs on it.
@KirstyHarris what are you trying to hack into :P
Why is after using <input> automatically a lineBreak if I use a div, but not if I just type text there? And what would be the best way to prevent that? jsfiddle.net/qc201s6n/1
user6225166
why IE8 it so old. there are so much incompatibility with js feature
13:52
@loktar im very new, sorry if i seem thick, i get the point of the post which was shared, but ive done what i believe is correct and i still cannot use the variable
@GNACBetombo I am tired of answering to this
my boss wants it
@KirstyHarris we all seem thick at some point thats why we read documentation, ect.
@KirstyHarris well, show code
should I go and fire him ? off course I can't but he will fire me
@KirstyHarris looks good enough
13:53
@Loktar speak for yourself
@Mathematics im just merely trying to find someones url, get their town, and use the result of town in a variable further down to construct a url
ok fine some of us are born Geniuses with amazing gifts like @FlorianMargaine
or if you don't wanna learn, just do async: false....
@Loktar 2.9
@Shea NO
13:54
@BenFortune YES
@FlorianMargaine PENIS
@Shea VAGINA
HUMAN
user6225166
make a fuction callback
13:55
Is it bad practice to include a local node package within a git project, and link it in the package.json?
grrrrrrrrrrrr
@Loktar don't feel bad, @FlorianMargaine is thicker than a bowl of oatmeal <3
any one interested in compressing JS to a new level? please help me debug this : jsfiddle.net/caaqxb9n/1 :)
14:00
I had to giggle
@ImranBughio lol
@KendallFrey ever notice how nitrogen looks like a butt? 78% of our air is tiny butts.
@AwalGarg I am going to change multiple character used together to a single ascii code than unzip them on client side :P if done right I think I can reduce the overall size by few more kbs
how does nitrogen look like a butt
how does it not
14:03
@ImranBughio oh wait you were serious... lemme laugh harder then
Every diatomic mokecule looks like a butt
@AwalGarg I know it sounds ridiculous but whats the harm?
So we're all made of micro butts
why nitrogen? There are tons of other diatomic molecules
14:04
@ImranBughio no harm in acting retarded and not using gzip, right
because they don't make up 78% of air.
also, what a primitive model of a molecule :P
@AwalGarg gzip does exactly this?
yeh, we're all smoking butt all day
note to self: don't tell Kendall jokes, he's not fun.
14:05
@Shea Synchronous XHR is no longer supported
gzip is a bit more intelligent, but sort of
@ndugger I wouldn't know
@AwalGarg how about you stop being an asshole?
Well now you do
@KendallFrey ikr
14:06
k...
@FlorianMargaine english lesson: he's being condescending (which is being an asshole)
but if you wanted to know
If "air" is made up of multiple elements, would humans be able to survive on pure Oxygen or would it be too much for our adapted lungs?
He's being an.. analhole
@ndugger oh excuse me, I mean idc
@SterlingArcher space
14:07
You don't care about what's deprecated? You just go around telling people to use the blink tag, don't you?
space? I don't get it
@SterlingArcher they use straight O2 in certain diving tanks
@ndugger we put people in pure oxygen environments in space
Ah, didn't know that
14:08
Right, I sort of meant on a long term scale, but I forgot about space
That's sorta long term
iirc, it helps with pressure differences
@ndugger actually if you were here for the whole conversation, you would see it was a joke
Isn't pure oxygen toxic?
They also give you O2 at the hospital if you need it
@Shea No jokes allowed
iirc ISS is closer to actual 'earth air' (or w/e)
14:09
@littlepootis it's definitely very flammable
not toxic, though
@ssube no, toxic
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A: Why is the breathing atmosphere of the ISS a standard atmosphere (at 1 atm containing nitrogen)?

David Hammen Am I not considering something? Yes. You are not considering Mir, Soyuz, and the Space Shuttle. The International Space Station is a multinational program, jointly led by the US and Russia. While the US and Russia had to compromise on many design decisions, the makeup of the breathing atmos...

@ndugger do you Bumble
good old space.se
14:10
@littlepootis yes and no: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_toxicity
it can be a problem, but only if it builds up
God I hate CSS sometimes.
@ssube and at high pressures apparently
!!s/sometimes//
@ssube God I hate CSS . (source)
And prolonged exposure to it can cause pulmonary fibrosis.
14:14
yeah, but everything causes that in California
California causes autism and polio
Anonymous
Hello. Does anyone know a small AJAX wrapper that is not jQuery?
@samayo what's wrong with native XHR?
@SterlingArcher hookers so good, you lose your legs forever
14:16
@samayo throw together a really light class around XHR
Anonymous
@SterlingArcher Nothing. I've been using it for some years, but I really need a library for I don't want to repeat all the xmlhttp.onreadystatechange... same code over and over.
Anyone here have an example of using redux and react to create a loading indicator? I can't find a good centralized way to manage it asynchronously
@samayo that's what functions are for!
Anonymous
@ssube I would love that idea and share it even in github, but I'm js illitrate.
@samayo I've probably got one sitting around
Anonymous
14:18
@SterlingArcher I know, but I don't know much about JS. I've only tried the AJAX part of it.
The XHR function uses promises, but take a look at that
@rlemon wrote that for me, so here's his credit mention
Anonymous
<< does not know what promise is :\
Anonymous
@SterlingArcher @ssube most of my AJAX code is like this one I just need to simply the second function because I have a lot of ajax requests.
14:20
Basically, minus the promises, it's very easy to write a function that posts/gets a URL, and returns a response object to you
Just Use jQuery™
if you're wrapping XHR though, you should use promises
just use fetch
I was written in jquery, look at how I turned out
Anonymous
@ssube I don't know promise, I just have a small site that plays songs, what I need is far too simple for this.
Anonymous
14:22
I would use jQuery, but it's too much just to use the ajax function.
Promises are simple
and make more complicated code simpler
Promises are super simple
Credit cards suck. That awkward moment where you paid your account, but it still says your payment is due, but you don't get the credit, BUT they're more than willing to immediately take your money
I'll admit at the start they may look intimidating - but they really are quite simple once you start using them
your code is already async because you're using ajax
14:22
@samayo You can use bluebird, super straight forward to learn and very extensible
I'm contemplating getting a new credit card -- one with better rewards than 1% cash back
I use it in every project, even the simple ones
@SterlingArcher don't bother with discover, even though their rewards seem ok. I like the chase blue-thing-named ones, like sapphire.
@SterlingArcher correction: credit card debt sucks. credit cards are awesome. my bank will give me rewards for using my CC as a proxy? hell yea
all my bills pay to my CC and I only have to pay my CC
one bill > 5 bills
It looks like the best CCs are the annual fee ones
14:24
no interest rate?
no interest if I pay it off
@SterlingArcher definitely not
@rlemon I may do that. I pay my bills either way, why not get reward points off them
I haven't had a CC for about 2 years now
I have a platinum rewards one. Not sure why it's called platinum when it only has a $1000 limit
14:24
don't waste your time with amex or something
I have a work visa, and a personal visa
@ssube iunno, my brother has an amex and he pays $100/year, but for 3 years in a row now he's gotten 3 checks for $1200 each from amex
Anonymous
@corvid Is there any ELI5 for promises?
the personal visa doesn't hold a balance for more than two weeks (every pay week I pay it off)
so it works out real well
@samayo ELI5?
@ssube explain it like I'm 5
explain like I'm 5
Explain Like I'm 5
repeat it like I'm 5 and not listening, will ya
why 5?
14:26
5 years olds should know promises already. :)
why not
@jAndy because 5 year olds are dumb
@jAndy why not?
seems so random
your mom is random, we still do her
14:26
eli18
so why not?
@jAndy arbitrary things often do
unless it is supposed to mean Elis
........
pretty sure reddit started it
not positive
Anonymous
14:27
@rlemon nope.
Anonymous
I think it started, from the tv series. "Are you smarter than a 5th grader?"
You can think of promises as just added handlers to an asynchronous operation, if you want to keep it that simple. It's not really much different than a callback
Anonymous
Are You Smarter than a 5th Grader? is an American quiz game show on Fox. It is produced by Mark Burnett and is hosted by Jeff Foxworthy. The show premiered as a three-day special which began on February 27, 2007 with the first two shows each a half-hour in length. Regular one-hour episodes began airing Thursdays from March 1 through May 10, and the first season continued with new episodes beginning May 31. Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader? was picked up for the 2007–08 season, which began on September 6, 2007, and aired in the same timeslot. Following the end of the original run of the primetime...
@samayo 5th graders are not 5yos
Anonymous
Wait, 5th graders are not 5 year-olds? :)
14:29
ikr, I was in 6th grade whe nI was 5
I wouldn't tell (even not a 5th grader) that a promise is just an enhanced callback tho.
Closer to 10 years old
It's more like a factory which deals with callbacks and can get passed around, accessed easily by multiple sources
Anonymous
@corvid But why is it important? I've done all I wanted via the simple AJAX function, learning promise-stuff would take me a long time.. which I don't have currently.
Anonymous
> The Promise object is used for deferred and asynchronous computations.
Anonymous
I checked the MDN and literally stopped there
It's more manageable in the long run. Callbacks get super messy. Less technical debt
@samayo too bad you didn't read further to find out how simple they are
Just use callbacks for a few years, eventually you'll start wanting to write cleaner code
meh
callbacks can be nice
y'all are just pricks with your shiny promises, y'all look like Trump
14:32
until they get messy
Anonymous
hmm this looks decent for now.
I wouldn't throw promises at every problem. but callback soup is a real thing
not if you use named functions like a sane man
I would say, always use promises. Agree, there are cases where its overkill and unnecessary, but there I would argue with consistency is always a win.
@FlorianMargaine promises use callbacks too
they just don't nest callbacks
14:34
so the trend is to make this post on social media instead
?
The irony is astounding
that post method doesn't have an error handler, neither does the get
Promises are great though, why not use them?
Because you're supporting IE6 and a promise library is too heavy!
14:47
kthx 1993
Did anybody see Captain America this weekend? It was amazing
It was okay, I'd give it a B-
bomb him! he hates Captain America
Happy Birthday @BenjaminGruenbaum. Hope you have a wonderful day and a prosperous year ahead.
Anonymous
Ok, one point for me today.
14:52
@ssube All the avengers characters suck now.
@corvid you have to admit that 1. Antman was hilarious, 2. The scene where Cap gets a kiss was hilarious (bucky and sam in the car)
Anonymous
something new learned \0/
Also, Black Panther is a badass
Yeah those were definitely good, I liked Black Panther a lot too, it's mostly just superhero movie fatigue
Did any of you watch Daredevil? That's a really good TV show.
14:53
@AwalGarg After some reading I realized I was about to waste my time :p Gzip is doing that job already. Thanks.
I never get tired of superhero movies. I can't wait for the Infinity Wars, mainly because due to comic lore, Thanos is "scared" (actively avoids conflict) with The Hulk
@AaditMShah hell yeah, the Punisher was incredibly well played
@AaditMShah Yep a great series but I will rank it 2nd, on 1st I will rank Game of thrones & Gotham
Indeed. Gotham is definitely my favorite show right now.
gotham, really? It's the scifi channel original of superhero shows
@ImranBughio @FlorianMargaine see it ended up helping him anyways :P
14:54
I haven't seen Gotham past season 1
The next episode of Gotham will be coming out today.
@AwalGarg yea but you could have been more polite -__-
@ssube nah, that was Alphas
@SterlingArcher Season 2 is really good. Bruce Wayne develops so much as a character.
Also a good show... yet I'm very mad because it was dropped after season 2... with literally the biggest cliff hanger I've ever seen in a show
14:55
@AaditMShah Yeah Excited :)
oh hello @AaditMShah!
@SterlingArcher clearly you've never watched Trapped In The Closet
Hey Awal. =)
every 15-minute episode ends with a cliffhanga, because that's what happens in real life, so you know it's real because it has the cliffhanga
@ssube yeah, but more or less the season ending of Alphas ended up with basically everybody dead except 1 guy
14:56
speaking of TV. I want more rick and morty
@ImranBughio To be honest, I think Gotham is much better than GoT. I got bored of GoT because were six seasons in and yet everybody is still precisely where they are.
rick and morty is great
It seems like it will take forever to get to the end of the series. How many seasons of GoT will there be?
@AaditMShah I agree, you know what I am putting GOT on 2nd now, Gotham is soo rich in characters and story (y)
I just want winter to come already.
14:58
@AaditMShah The production quality on Gotham is like a vaseline truck crashed into a camera factory and knocked every lens permanently out of focus.
Winter is coming
I need to binge on Game of Thrones
@SterlingArcher 6 season winter is coming, only 2 season with actual winter -_-
@SterlingArcher fuck off it is. I just got done with that shit.
I've been delaying it for so long
GoT is the only show I haven't seen a single episode on, but I know every detail and more because I read all the books
@ssube Really? I think it's pretty well focused.
14:59
@SterlingArcher if you could come up here and delay winter that would be great

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