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20:00
@Loktar Studies show that's external, and can be brought back.
I think most people are, its just a matter of being motivated/selfish
the biggest thing (about pay scales) that bothers me: the Basketball player makes 80 million a year. The Teacher scrapes by.. that just isn't right.
@Loktar exactly
@SimonSarris Human-made revolutions are odd to feel
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The thing is some people will literally never do anything (whether by choice or they are just unintelligent) worthwhile. They can only work at the recycle plant, mcdonalds, kroger etc. And they were born into my tiny little town. One can't simply leave this town without financial stability or something to ride out. You at least need a shot.
20:01
Imagine living on the brink of the agricultural revolution
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If that's your position what can you do?
@Loktar think of it this way: there are no guarantees in life but accepting this does not require us to be a slave to it. As a dad you could tell you children, life isn't fair, go out and buy your own dinner, but you choose not to (I think). You chose to create a household that in intentionally does not simulate the harsh realities of nature.
civilization is just that on a larger scale
But you wouldn't be facing one inherent problem: A capitalistic world.
@Jhawins Die and reduce the surplus population.
the world is a lot less scary when zero of your neighbors are desperate
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20:02
@SomeKittensUx2666 Yup. Population control.
@Loktar No, there are actually a lot of stupid people. SMH so rude, any1 tryna get high? me 2 bb
@Jhawins I still think its an issue of motivation (maybe upbringing as well)
@Jhawins (that's a Christmas Carol reference, by the way)
I lived in a household that made maybe 13k a year
@SimonSarris actually.. the cougar next to me doesn't scare me.. and she is pretty desperate #tries-to-make-joke
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Everyone is worried about the natural reasons for people dying... And it's so sad when your friends and family pass, but dude. If no one else dies we all starve.
I found a way out of our small town
@Loktar Advertising. Tells us fulfilment comes from stuff.
@Loktar Because you're a human being
20:02
and had a personal drive
@Loktar /me had a graduating class of 23.
@FlorianMargaine aaww, I didn't mean to demotivate you!
@SimonSarris I agree with you to an extent btw
Public school, served three towns
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@Loktar I think some people honestly lack the competence. They just can't. I didn't believe that until this year but I feel like it's been proven.
20:03
@SomeKittensUx2666 I didnt even graduate :P
My way is a lot less awesome. I'm just hacking and gnawing at the dev tools.
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@SomeKittensUx2666 Class of 1 :P
but the class I was apart of had like 36?
@Loktar yeah I suspect we only agree on the "how much"
@Zirak it's ok. I'll write your backend (copy paste :P)
20:03
which can vary a lot
oops, only disagree* on the how much
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@Loktar Course you did, you have a general competence that the average person doesn't I would say.
I internalize issues and think if I could do it why cant others, so there is a lack of empathy on my part sometimes I guess
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But every room owner and most regulars here do too.
lets just wait for God to realize he messed up this playthrough of SimEarth and he deletes the savefile
in all honesty I would prefer all people are happy
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20:04
Maybe you're right, maybe s/competence/motivation|ambition/
404'd: 18726 used: 13570 unused: 390 i.imgur.com/AnK01wD.jpg
@Jhawins yeah I think upbringing really plays a big part as well
my mom was a hard worker and taught me some really good values
my dad is a lazy person though
!!afk leaving early.
@rlemon I worked from home today :P
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@Loktar Eh. I was raised in a 10 child family all spaced ~2 years apart. This has the most bearing on me, I don't see any pattern whatsoever and we were all raised the same.
20:05
@Loktar my dad is a drunk SOB
no edit ;)
haha well I love my dad and he lives in my basement
felt bad calling him a POS
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I think upbringing has a lot less to do with it than people think. I think personal experiences during youth is the big factor, not how you were brought up.
he is just insanely lazy.
yea I haven't spoken to mine in .. ~20 years?
nahh, like 18 I think
damn
20:06
My kids are going to be crazy spoiled with Legos
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My Dad literally tried to steal my motorcycle 2 months ago. Before noon on a Sunday. I loaded everything up and left by 1
My kids are made out of Legos
@SomeKittensUx2666 yea man mine are.. but its not good
they don't value stuff like I do
My legos are my children
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20:07
But I was only living back with him for like 2 weeks since my lease ended and I didn't find a new place yet
!!afk okay, i'll be home in a bit
I've spoiled my kids too much, because I think "Holy shit this would have been AWESOME when I was a kid omg!"
and now when they get stuff its like "meh, cool"
@Loktar YOUTH IS WASTED ON THE YOUNG ISNT IT?
SCRIPT438: Object doesn't support property or method 'isInsertionCaretInside'
UIUtils.js, line 615 character 9
hahah yes!
20:07
god thats the truest quote ever
Too many ipods and phone programs and internet explorers
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I'm just saying maybe it's parents for what they allow to happen. But most of the things I can pin point about myself to past experiences are from things I got into completely separate from family.
@Zirak ie11 doesn't work
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But, both parents worked and there were 10 kids by the end. So it's not like any of us really even had parents.
wait nvm this is ie10, not sure about 11
20:08
@Loktar have you ever given them a text file with a million entries and told them that one of them matching a given regex is today's wifi password?
@BenjaminGruenbaum Supporting anything other than Chrome is a long-term goal
Short term I want shit to work
LOL no that would be insane
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And we were all homeschooled but both parents worked... So it was like a sibling combined learning effort or something.
@SomeKittensUx2666 ahaha wow that would teach a kid to learn.
I'm totally doing that.
You want X? Work for it. Learn for it.
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20:09
We had to teach the next ones down lol
work is surprisingly important for kids
> but dad umm how can I figure out regex without the internet
And if they figure out how to crack WEP, more power to them.
some day I should share my theory of teenage angst
@Zirak Firefox?
20:10
@Loktar throws the Owl book at them
Here's a book, son. Figure it out while I get drunk on the couch
lol
@BenjaminGruenbaum It'll probably work, don't see a reason why not.
I have the owl one, the quick ref book its great
so I could totally throw that at them :P
What version is it now? Firefox 31?
20:10
<shakes fist>IE !!!!!</>
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@rlemon I had your thing doing that FF image.. Was over 10K used. I accidentally closed Chrome
@Jhawins rlemon is afk: okay, i'll be home in a bit
making a site for progressive.com and IE11 makes Flo hide behind the divs
its friggen driving me crazy
and Flo is not usually shy
that's racist
@BenjaminGruenbaum Wait, that's not an IE problem
Could you check if Element.prototype.removeChildren is defined?
isInsertionCaretInside is defined in ui/DOMExtension.js which extends some host prototypes.
20:15
So I got an email with a "keep receiving our email" button and an unsubscribe link. I wonder what happens if I do neither...
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@KendallFrey No matter what you do... You keep receiving emails
Anybody plays the resident evil serious
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Click either button -> receive even more emails lol
gah
stupid question, but what does "inline" mean in this context? stackoverflow.com/a/8885656/548083
as in "1. inline everything you can."
sounds the same as #2
20:18
@RalphWiggum If you have a short function, write out its contents instead of calling it.
@RalphWiggum That's the worst advice ever
That's what it means.
ohh, okay
As copy says, it's terrible.
20:19
He is right about avoiding sqrt though
inline everything? What? That's like the first thing people tell you not to do, lol
@RalphWiggum In fact, some of the advices are even counter-productive
Really any function that involves a series
So trig and log functions too
> so sqrt is, of course, worse than x*x
I agree, Math.sqrt(x) is somewhat different than x*x
20:20
I have to use the Math.log and I don't think it's performance will be good enough
so I might just need to memoize it
Don't optimise unless you have to
Never call log(x) more than once per x
Optimisations are a bane to readability and often unnecessary.
i never inline, but i do put all of my functions for an entire app in one file. easier to read imho
Zirak do you know how long it takes to calculate the log of a number
20:23
@Jhawins Gmail actually has a cool feature that lets you unsub automatically
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@KendallFrey well, the ones that don't actually unsub it just blocks I'm sure
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I was just saying half the time they're just going to take that as "this one is active" :P
@Meredith 72 clock cycles
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lol zigi is still in the room. Is that finally over?
@CharlieBrown let me guess, are you the kind of guy who thinks it's a heresy to extract a bit of function into another one if it won't be used twice?
20:30
@FlorianMargaine Are you the kind of guy who only uses functions if they are going to be called more than once?
Not if you keep bringing him up
Hey look what I found en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
@copy thanks, a better wording indeed
@FlorianMargaine of course, whats the point
if your not going to reuse it, it shouldnt be its own function
<note>all previous lines are sarcasm</note>
ugh
who wants money to fix this? stupid IE
20:36
I'll take your money, as long as I don't have to sign a contract, eh? ;)
Is Math.imul faster than normal multiplication now?
@RalphWiggum Wouldn't surprise me a bit
20:51
are you faster than Math.imul, @KendallFrey
found it!
stupid ie
when you need to use css like _:-ms-full-page your browser is jacked
My env has been broken all day. I've got almost nothing done at work today.
@Zirak Hop onto IRC?
Broken due to the back end guys; so it wasn't my fault lol
it's your fault, Nick
20:57
Nope, we're using Umbraco (a cms), and it has a plugin called uSync that's supposed to sync database files (like new pages, etc), and it doesn't work. So then one of the back-end guys played around on my local to get a workaround going, and he ended up breaking everything lol
@SomeGuy In a half hour
Now we're considering moving away from a CMS
@Zirak Cool
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Q: Why does @StackStatus follow Ryan Seacrest?

Santa ClausI couldn't help but notice that the @StackStatus twitter account follows @RyanSeacrest. @StackStatus provides status updates for the Stack Exchange network along with stackstatus.net, so there doesn't seem to be any obvious reason for the account to follow Ryan Seacrest. Is there some joke here ...

lol
Time to go home. Least productive work day I've ever had.
21:00
Tech question: Who stores there iTunes(or other app) Library of music on an external HD
@SomeGuy kick rlemon pls
(IRC)
There you go
Talked to the creator of seriously.js :D, now really will come out even fasterer
> Nickname rlemon already in use.
hrm.
friday friday
gotta get down on fredag
21:02
anyone
I used to store it on a flashdrive
does that count?
how much did you have?
I think it was like a 16GB one
@FlorianMargaine How do you kick someone on IRC using ChanServ again?
I just use Google Music and stream it now
21:06
I can't seem to find it
he (me) isn't in the room
chanserv kick?
but is still logged in
@RalphWiggum Invalid command, apparently
@rlemon Yeah, I figured. I was just wondering, so I don't have to op myself to kick people
5:02:48 PM	-NickServ-  The following commands are available:
5:02:48 PM	-NickServ-  GHOST           Reclaims use of a nickname.
5:02:48 PM	-NickServ-  IDENTIFY        Identifies to services for a nickname.
5:02:48 PM	-NickServ-  INFO            Displays information on registrations.
5:02:48 PM	-NickServ-  LISTCHANS       Lists channels that you have access to.
5:02:48 PM	-NickServ-  REGISTER        Registers a nickname.
5:02:48 PM	-NickServ-  RELEASE         Releases a services enforcer.
5:02:49 PM	-NickServ-
I couldn't ghost myself
21:07
worked for me on my server
does any one know the name of the software that allows you make a quick animated image of a screen region
I kicked myself with chanserv kick
@Dave YES
I got this
whats it called? cos i need to reinstall it
thats it ! thanks
21:08
@RalphWiggum :/
maybe it depends on the server? not sure
this one's unreal
2:39 AM <ChanServ> The following commands are available:
2:39 AM <ChanServ> FLAGS           Manipulates specific permissions on a channel.
2:39 AM <ChanServ> INVITE          Invites you to a channel.
2:39 AM <ChanServ> OP              Gives channel ops to a user.
2:39 AM <ChanServ> RECOVER         Regain control of your channel.
2:39 AM <ChanServ> REGISTER        Registers a channel.
2:39 AM <ChanServ> SET             Sets various control flags.
2:39 AM <ChanServ> UNBAN           Unbans you on a channel.
Maybe I don't have the right access flags?
│
14:10:10    -- | ChanServ:     REGISTER   Register a channel                 │
14:10:10    -- | ChanServ:     IDENTIFY   Identify yourself with your        │
               | password                                                    │
14:10:10    -- | ChanServ:     SET        Set channel options and information│
14:10:10    -- | ChanServ:     AOP        Modify the list of AOP users       │
14:10:10    -- | ChanServ:     SOP        Modify the list of SOP users       │
14:10:10    -- | ChanServ:     ACCESS     Modify the list of privileged users│
That looks a bit like dwarf fortress
21:12
I'm glad I only vaguely know what that is
@Shmiddty Yes, be glad that you don't know what dwarf fortress is
I envy you
Their motto is: "It's fun to lose"
nethack > df
[just kidding]
the creator of df apparently lives in my shitty town
I think he's the only famous person to ever come from this town
Besides you, of course
I wish I were famous :(
Why?
21:17
then I can be mean to people with less consequences
and I can have my own holodeck
You can be mean to people with not much consequence now
nah
I get stabbed when I'm mean
function checkColour(rgb) {
    for (var color in idata) {
        var _rgb = color.split(',');
        var delta = Math.sqrt(Math.pow(rgb[0] - _rgb[0], 2) + Math.pow(rgb[1] - _rgb[1], 2) + Math.pow(rgb[2] - _rgb[2], 2));
        if (delta < tolorance) {
            return _rgb;
        }
    }
    return false;
}
\o/
mooooooooo
!!cowsay gimme all yer monies
21:23
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@rlemon You should square tolerance instead of sqrting delta
I knew if I posted it someone would be able to tell me how to remove the sqrt :D
thanks
Vampire
I was mostly posting out of excitement I'm not doing the stupid straight rgb check
that was dumb.
21:28
I found out you can write shaders using three
will you shade me with three?
No.
oh...
do whales have boobs?
@RalphWiggum They're mammals, I think technically that means they do
21:34
@rlemon ? Did it finish ?
Well, nipples, not necessarily boobs
iunno
left work
will check monday
but I improved my colour matching
That's long wait :-/
21:35
now i'm using delta-e
Oh great :-D
@RalphWiggum That's no way to talk to your mother
Probably closer image then ?
doing a render right now. it is MUCH improved over the past
@Zirak does my mother have boobs
21:36
Ask @phenomnomnominal
do I have boobs?!
much better matches
!mute RalphWiggum 8h
@rlemon oh god, that's disturbing... those eyes...
// dw single !
21:37
:(
@rlemon now probably u will add animations ?
maybe
there is a lot to learn first
I need to next figure out how to take a finite amount of images and use them as a 'best fit'
What are you trying to learn
instead of just looking until I hit a tolerance match
but all I can think of is do a pass, increase tolerance, pass again, increase tolerance, rinse repeat.
doesn't sound very efficient so i'm googling for better ideas
!!xkcd sysadmin
happy sysadmin day
(by the way)
@SomeKittensUx2666 I think that has to be one of my favorite xkcd comics
thanks i'll take a peek
@RalphWiggum you are coming along nicely.
ooh, that looks slightly less creepy
21:43
@AbhishekHingnikar see. MUCH better colour matching
@rlemon another neat statistic would be the usage percentage
@SomeKittensUx2666 you can do the math yourself :P
it is more fun!
Not having to do the math myself is literally the reason I started programming
lol touche
TI-BASIC, baby
21:46
The text is a big giveaway
Canadian warship ????
The fleet of the Royal Canadian Navy consists of the surface warships, submarines and auxiliary vessels operated by the Royal Canadian Navy, the maritime component of the Canadian Forces. The current fleet consists of 66 vessels, including 34 commissioned vessels. Commissioned vessels carry the designation 'Her Majesty's Canadian Ship' (HMCS) in reference to the monarch and head of state of Canada. Auxiliary vessels carry the designation 'Canadian Forces Auxiliary Vessel' (CFAV) since the unification of the Canadian Forces in 1968. == Current fleet == === Warships === ==== Halifax cla...
we actually do have ships
not just canoes
Ofcourse u do
21:48
@Neil Obviously. See how deep underwater the girl is compared to the dolphin and ship?
@Zirak Maybe she's floating
It's just there because of the nudity
@rlemon can u make ms paint / just drawing tools of gimp for canvas ?
umm probably.
$5 says there are at least 10
21:50
^
That actually looks like fun
so fake. I see no hockey sticks.
wow this new colour matching is seriously impressive how much better it works.
What'd you change?
I used to just compare r,g,b separate to see if they were within a tolerance. now i'm checking delta-e
@rlemon run the NASA image on this
21:54
after @RalphWiggum is done
I'm done
with life.exe
Tweet it to NASA : the nebula com.imgur
made only from pron images
i came home to find my sheets of algae used to make sushi entirely eaten by my cats
21:58
ha
I feed those to my fish
I wasn't sure if I wanted to laugh or be upset.. it is very expensive
not here
roughly 5 euros for 10 sheets

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