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16:00
@FlorianMargaine Piet?
nope
Malbolge!
> Malbolge was so difficult to understand when it arrived that it took two years for the first Malbolge program to appear.
lol, nice
that's not the end of it
> The first Malbolge program was not written by a human being, it was generated by a beam search algorithm designed by Andrew Cooke and implemented in Lisp.
> A correct 99 Bottles of Beer program, which deals with non-trivial loops and conditions, was not announced for seven years; the first correct one was by Hisashi Iizawa in 2005.
Holy wtf
urm...anybody done any freelance stuff, and knows how to let someone down? I can't finish something on time and want to resign from it (I can in all likelihood finish it, but it won't be satisfactory, especially not for me). Mostly because it was stupid of me to take it in the first place, not a great time right now.
16:04
That's a rough situation
And I also feel really bad for the guy who got me the job, he's just a mediator.
Fun fact: One SlickText user accounts for 85% of reserved keywords
@Zirak That's ... yea, a not so nice situation.
What lube do you buy to make it nice?
@Zirak Something water-based
16:07
@Zirak The plain truth, as straight as possible.
@OctavianDamiean Crap
@Masondesu Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
I know. BTDT, it ain't nice.
@Zirak My advice would be: Suck it up and do it if you can.
^same
you signed a contract didn't you?
16:09
@Zirak It's like a patch you pull off, it hurts a little at first but that pain goes away.
What's the scope of a CG artist in a software firm, are they needed more often?what's their avg salary in the market?
Let them know if there are delays, but you should still complete it.
@FlorianMargaine Nope
@RomanticElectron Yeah, about 7 monetary units.
16:10
My advice is, don't do it if you have to force yourself to do it every time and you hate it.
It's not worth it. It being your personal well-being.
@Zirak Really, no contract?
And I know they have alternatives
@SomeGuy that'd be too low
I'm still confused about there not being a contract.
16:11
If I'm not sure I'm their best, don't I owe it to give them better things?
@RomanticElectron avgSalary = CGArtists.in("software").length / CGArtists.totalSalary();
@Zirak If you can point out better options, that's the lube!
@Zirak Depends on if having the best actually makes a difference to them.
But yeah, if you haven't signed a contract, maybe it's fine if you just tell them.
@SomeGuy That happens a lot.
It's nothing special.
Really?
16:12
Yea.
@RyanKinal that's a formula what about figures
Having freelance work just on someone's word?
It's risky for both sides.
Yeah, which is why I think it's stupid.
16:13
@Shelby115 Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room pseudo-rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
@SomeGuy Maybe but that's not really the scope of his question. :)
Now...over the phone or in an email...I couldn't get a hold of him now
@RyanKinal why is google expected to serve the answer for every question
@RomanticElectron Because GOOGLE HAS THE ANSWER TO EVERY QUESTION
@RyanKinal Can it tell me whether she loves me or not ?
@Shelby115 When you choose to discuss which technologies you use the most, you say C# and... jQuery?
@BenjaminGruenbaum Solve my problems for me plz
@RyanKinal but it doesn't even know her
@RomanticElectron Probably, it has her search history.
@RomanticElectron Trust me, she doesn't.
16:16
@RomanticElectron But it knows women.
It knows behaviors. It has questions that have answers.
@Zirak yeah that's like a real answer
@Zirak K, first I need you to send me good faith money so I can access my locked millions in Nigeria and send them to you
@RyanKinal but it doesn't know my story, and it did not answer me, rather it pulled out other questions for me
I wanted an answer in yes or no
@RomanticElectron It's being polite.
@RomanticElectron Then you're doing it wrong
16:17
@Zirak is better than google
@BenjaminGruenbaum Do you still accept Adam & Eve coupons?
@RomanticElectron FINALLY, acknowledgement!
@Zirak That looks expensive.
@RomanticElectron You know what's better than google (for this particular question)? ASKING HER. And, I'm sure, if you look hard enough, Google will tell you to ASK HER.
@RyanKinal why should I look hard at google, I think it was made for ease rather than complications
:done now:
!!afk lunch
16:20
@RyanKinal you know you'll be back...
@RyanKinal many times I have gone through it and I arrive at the same conclusion.. that I should ask her ... rather than searching in google
!!help afk
@eazimmerman afk: User-taught command: you know you'll be back...
how do you end an afk message?
!!help bak
16:22
@JanDvorak Command bak does not exist. Did you mean: ban
!!learn bak "welcome back, meatbag"
@JanDvorak Command bak learned
user1596138
!!tell RomanticElectron sandbox
@RomanticElectron You know, there was this funny idea once upon a time that people were supposed to test out commands and "play" in the sandbox
g'morning
user1596138
16:28
9:30 over there?
!!forget sandbox
@RomanticElectron Command sandbox forgotten.
@Jhawins yep. Just got into work
!!/ban RomanticElectron
16:29
@BenjaminGruenbaum User RomanticElectron added to mindjail.
user1596138
Can someone mindjail him? He's deleting useful commands.
@RomanticElectron no more playing with the bot if you don't play nice.
user1596138
Ah, beat me to it.
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Q: jquery full calendar to show specific date

Menewhere is my ashaw's full calendar and everything works great in my c# mvc app: <div id="calendar"></div> <script> $('#calendar').fullCalendar({ weekMode: "variable", events: "@Url.Content("~/")/JSONEvents", eventSources: [ // ...

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16:30
!!learn sandbox "You know, there was this funny idea once upon a time that people were supposed to test out commands and "play" in the sandbox"
!!/learn sandbox "If you want to test out or play with the bot, please use the sandbox"
@Jhawins Command sandbox learned
@BenjaminGruenbaum Command sandbox learned
user1596138
Shit
Interesting
user1596138
!!learn sandbox 'You know, there was this funny idea once upon a time that people were supposed to test out commands and "play" in the sandbox'
16:30
!!/help learn
@BenjaminGruenbaum learn: Teaches me a command. /learn cmdName outputPattern [inputRegex [description]]
@BenjaminGruenbaum If you want to test out or play with the bot, please use <a href=chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/1/sandbox>the sandbox</a>
@BenjaminGruenbaum I was testing if this command was built in programatically and undeletable
@RomanticElectron good for you champ.
16:31
@Jhawins Command sandbox forgotten.
@BenjaminGruenbaum Command sandbox learned
@Jhawins Command sandbox learned
user1596138
You whore.
^ I'm cool with that.
@CapricaSix sorry bot :p
user1596138
16:32
Interesting. What exactly does this mean?
He's been here long enough, it's about time
Yeah, he was kind of an asshole when he got here, but he improved a lot since.
@Jhawins you've now got 3x the responsibility.
@BenjaminGruenbaum He's now our kind of cloudhole
I haven't improved :C
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@BenjaminGruenbaum Hehe... I stay offline for the most part when I drink now.
16:33
@Jhawins can see deleted messages, can move messages to other rooms, and then there's the bot stuff - can mindjail, can mute
Congrats Jhawins!
I'm not sure how the bot gets room owners.
!!refresh
user1596138
Is there like a room owners wiki?
Phooey
16:34
Lol, no.
!!did I just break you?
@SomeKittens Not at all
oh good
Room owners used to be hardcoded, @Zirak might need to update it manually. Might be different now that we have access control
user1596138
Nah they aren't hardcoded anymore.
16:35
@BenjaminGruenbaum what's a mind jail btw
@RomanticElectron You can't use the bot
@BenjaminGruenbaum Not any more, but some stuff may still need a refresh.
user1596138
We should change mindjail so it gives the person jailed a brief explanation of what's happened to them.
16:36
!!> window.IO
@nderscore "ReferenceError: window is not defined"
@Jhawins Make it so
@SomeKittens oopsie
@BenjaminGruenbaum do you remember you had suggested me some javascript books and stuff to begin with
user1596138
Actually, nevermind. It's funnier this way because all she says is "You iz in mindjail"
16:36
@nderscore Workers have no globals, that's a big thing in their favor :)
was worth a shot :D
@BenjaminGruenbaum Just started reading JS: Allongé or whatever
@techno Sorry, no. People come here all the time and ask :)
I think you mentioned it
@SomeKittens I did mention it, I was looking for feedback on it now that it's free. How it compares to other books, I've started disliking the rhino book and the good parts isn't really introductory.
Until Eloquent JS gets a rewrite I want a book I can recommend to people :)
16:38
@BenjaminGruenbaum yeah,no prob you had suggested me to go with ASP.NET webpages rather than web forms
user1596138
Guys... It seems you guys answered a question off of @Caprica s account so she'd have enough rep. But it also looks like you could've just added her to the explicit write list? I didn't even know that existed, cool.
@techno That makes sense, WebForms are horrible. I rarely use web pages alone though, usually something like MVC.
@BenjaminGruenbaum I'll let you know what I think
!!finish it or give up
@Zirak finish it
16:39
It's settled
@BenjaminGruenbaum i was just beginning and looked at some examples,does asp.net webpages have postback like webforms
@SomeKittens HUEHUEHUEHUE
@Jhawins only mods can do it for users with under 20 rep. We wanted to get the bot to 1000 so it could change room status when muting, not sure where that stands
@techno That's just posting to the same page, is it not?
!!stat capricasix
16:40
yeah,like sending to server and refresh the page
@JanDvorak Caprica Six has 506 reputation, earned 10 rep today, asked 0 questions, gave 4 answers. avg. rep/post: 126.5. Badges: 0g 3s 5b
Well, she's now above 500
When you set a form's action attribute to the same url and the method to POST it'd do that. I think you should not learn with WebForms examples.
do you know what she really needs?
OVER 9000!
16:41
new goal: 1337 rep
I think that means our bot has a better rep/post ratio than any of us.
Skynet?
!!stat Zirak extended
@BenjaminGruenbaum User Elusio proved elusive.
user1596138
@BenjaminGruenbaum Cool.
@BenjaminGruenbaum my question is does asp.net webpages have the ability to display results without page reload like something you achieve with ajax+jquery in webforms
16:42
No need for extended any more
user1596138
@Zirak When she starts answering questions on her own... We'll know it's too late.
!!tell BenjaminGruenbaum stat Zirak
@BenjaminGruenbaum Zirak has 9824 reputation, earned 10 rep today, asked 15 questions, gave 178 answers. avg. rep/post: 50.9. Badges: 3g 26s 50b
@techno You usually don't do ajax+jquery with webforms, that's usually in web pages. WebForms use controls with runat = server for that which is horrible.
16:43
@Jhawins User Elusio proved elusive.
!!stat BenjaminGruenbaum
@BenjaminGruenbaum User Elusio proved elusive.
user1596138
Works very nicely.
1 min ago, by Zirak
No need for extended any more
@BenjaminGruenbaum User Elusio proved elusive.
16:43
I misspelled my own name :P
user1596138
!!stat CapricaSix
...twice
@Jhawins Caprica Six has 506 reputation, earned 10 rep today, asked 0 questions, gave 4 answers. avg. rep/post: 126.5. Badges: 0g 3s 5b
@BenjaminGruenbaum Benjamin Gruenbaum has 19875 reputation, earned 35 rep today, asked 36 questions, gave 495 answers. avg. rep/post: 37.42. Badges: 4g 38s 70b
@BenjaminGruenbaum so in asp.net webpages you can have interactive pages without reload
and without using ajax+jquery
@Zirak bot should do levinstein distance and fix that for me >: (
16:44
It already not should do it.
@techno yeah, but it does that in a horrible way where all state is sent back and forth leading to horrible performance and unmaintainable code
@BenjaminGruenbaum MVC is tough i think
:( Keyboard wtf srsly.
user1596138
Moving messages doesn't play nicely on a Mac. I can't select multiple messages with (control,click), because that brings up the right-click menu. Command doesn't work either. However (shift,click) will select ranges still.
@Zirak how to get a bot?
user1596138
16:46
I got this one!
@BenjaminGruenbaum does mvc run in the same way as asp.net webpages do.can i do the same thing better and efficiently in mvc
@techno it needs learning, just like any other technology. WebForms isn't really easier, it's just more convoluted and looks nice.
user1596138
@RomanticElectron Just go here and I'll set you up
@RomanticElectron you could write one, like Zirak did
@JanDvorak @Jhawins thanks
16:47
@techno You might want to ask that in the C# room or the asp.net room, but it runs kind of the same but kind of different. I can't just explain the whole asp.net stack here.
user1596138
No fun.
@Jhawins your link was interesting
@BenjaminGruenbaum yeah,i think will need to stick with javascipt for real-time validation
@Zirak Just came here to say that your chatbot rocks!! I let it join the Astro.SE chatroom, and we're having tons of fun with it! :D
@Manishearth lol, the English language & Usage people really like it too (especially the hangman)
haha
It somehow determined that I am the owner. I don't know how
Are you a room owner of that room?
I'm a mod, yes
room mode changed to Public: anyone may enter and talk
That's how I guess.
16:55
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Q: Chat move messages bug for Mac users

Raghav SoodAs a room owner on chat, you can move messages out of the room. To do this, we can click on the Room link in the sidebar and select Move Messages. This results in the following instructions: Now on a Mac, Shift-click works fine for selecting an entire set of consecutive messages. However, Ctr...

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@FlorianMargaine They never fixed it? I could add that in minutes.
user1596138
Who's actually in charge of the site?
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@Zirak you should write a back door to the bot that allows you to control the bot regardless of room / site / whether it is running at Caprica, etc.
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