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17:00
@m59 Yep
@rlemon Happy Hump Day from SF!
:)
hump hump hump
steambox so surprised!
and sorry forgot to edit my image :?
was reading the valve announcement
17:03
ha
so it's steambox
3rd really may be hl3...
@rlemon siiiiiiiiiiigh
@Loktar why does it work here: jsfiddle.net/rlemon/Y3yKG but not here: codepen.io/rlemon/pen/Fkwlf
Also, Jesus would be all over here and here
Source: Me.
@rlemon I 2.9 you back.
17:07
I saw god on /r/worldbuilder/ the other day
@SomeKittens not sure about the second site. They don't like him, IIRC.
@rlemon you dont want it to flow on codepen?
Well, He was teaching in the temple at 12.
also, I believe he would be on homebrew.stackexchange.com as a very highly rated answerer
@SomeKittens 12
17:08
@SomeKittens they didn't like him when he was 33, though.
@JanDvorak The ones who stood to lose their power, yes.
(at least the leading guys did)
@rlemon it works on codepen
but not on fiddle for me
doesn't for me :/
works in the fiddle, not on codepen
up the time for init
I usually make it wait 100 ms
17:09
@JanDvorak they don't "don't like him", they just refute that he's the Son of God. He's a prophet sent by God, but not His son.
wait, cleared the cache.... twice... now it works.
f u codepen
stupid
yeah codepen's height issues annoy the hell out of me
Even Islam says Jesus was a prophet.
What's that thing called that auto-updates node so you don't have to keep restarting it?
17:10
@KendallFrey I can confirm.
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SteamOS: Just another promising distro that won't ever amount to anything.
@Connor I use supervisor
@Connor node-supervisor?
there are a couple of solutions though
more than a couple yeah
17:11
@Jhawins I wouldnt be so sure
Ok, ill try that cheers
the streaming capability makes it pretty viable imo
and they are working with amd/nvidia/intel directly
@Loktar Also:
> Can I hack this box? Run another OS? Change the hardware? Install my own software? Use it to build a robot?
Sure.
yeah thats cool too
17:12
meaning its just a PC which is good
@Jhawins pessimist!
I didnt want another stupid console in the world
/me heads to lunch
where's everyone getting the steambox info?
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@Loktar I would. Using just SO chat as an example you can see that people are idiots, and when they're given some kind of new technology/script, they panic.
@SomeKittens I have a better one.
17:13
I'm trying to guess the URL for day 3 lol
@KendallFrey "...and takes half damage"?
!!youtube daft punk steam machine
> Jesus and Satan have an argument as to who is the better programmer. This goes on for a few hours until they come to an agreement to hold a contest with God as the judge. They set themselves before their computers and begin. They type furiously, lines of code streaming up the screen, for several hours straight.
> Seconds before the end of the competition, a bolt of lightning strikes, taking out the electricity. Moments later, the power is restored, and God announces that the contest is over. He asks Satan to show his work. Visibly upset, Satan cries and says, “I have nothing. I lost it al
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SteamOS can only realistically target current linux users. And this is only because of the ignorance and stupidity in technology due to our marketing schemes such as "The Cloud."
The average consumer honestly doesn't know what he/she is doing.
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17:15
@Jhawins so, I take it that android only targets linux users also? o_0
@Jhawins Especially non-Linux users fall for things like that
people are gonna buy machines with steamos already on it
instead of an xbox
@KendallFrey Oh, c'mon, you get a star for something I've literally had forwarded to me a decade ago?
I saw an awesome gif "how to make steamos"
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@nderscore Android by nature isn't the same. At it's core it's linux, yes. But the GUI everyone uses is hardly different from an iPhone. I would definitely not expect an Android phone user to understand/use Linux just because he has an Android.
17:17
guy takes his extra monitor output, puts it on his tv, drags the steam screen over.
why does my Event Listener Count dramatically DROP when i load my page with an active session? when i load my page through my login screen my listener count is 2000 higher!
@SomeKittens It is better
@Jhawins and how do you know what the SteamOS GUI is going to be like?
@Loktar ^
how to make Steam SteamOS
Brilliant
17:19
@Jhawins eh?
I can't follow your logic.
watch it for like 15 passes
mesmerizing
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@nderscore That's not the problem. The problem is that non-linux users will come at it from a Windows view-point (many won't even know it's a different system...). They'll try to play and fuck around with things, but in Linux you can really fuck things up. They won't even have to fuck things up bad, all it takes is the window server not starting and they'll be calling Valve. Even though it'll be the users fault for doing somehting stupid.
This is odd. I can't sign in to Steam.
@Jhawins Doubtful. Most people will come to it with a console perspective.
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@SomeKittens What makes you say that? If I ask 3/4 people at my office what a console is in regards to computers, they'll just stare at me.
They're not the sort of people who'll buy the SteamBox
17:22
@Jhawins I don't know what you think SteamOS is. lol. It's going to be like a machine that only runs Steam Big Picture. There won't be much to fuck with unless you're an advanced user.
@Jhawins I still can't follow your logic?
The target audience is console gamers.
@Jhawins then they are not gamers, and therefore would not be the target audience.
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@SomeKittens Fuck. We have too many meanings for the word console...
we have too many meaning for the word Fuck
17:24
@Jhawins Yeah, not terminal, but Xbox
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If they make it a Steam only box, fuck them, I don't want jack shit to do with it.
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There should never have been a separation between gaming consoles and desktop computers.
See, I really really want one of these things, but I literally can't come up with a single reason why. (I don't have a TV)
17:25
but there is! and there's nothing you can do to change that
everything is seperating from computers
people have tablets now to do everything
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@nderscore Narrow-minded way of thinking.
@SomeKittens you what?
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We can change anything about technology we want, we're developers.
@OctavianDamiean Don't really need one, nor do I have a good place to put it.
the PC is dying :(
17:27
@Jhawins welp, there should not have been fragmentation in Android, there also shouldn't have been fragmentation of browsers and there shouldn't have been IE but yet there is.
we can't force people to continue to use PC's
@nderscore That's quite a wrong assumption.
people wanna play games sitting in front of their TV with a controller
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@nderscore The term "PC" is dying.... But other than that, you just posted one of the stupidest things I've seen in this room.
@nderscore Eventually programmers will be the only people using PC's. Then we can do whatever the fuck we want.
17:27
The PC is still the dominant area for content creation, and there aren't really any challengers.
@nderscore I'm a member of the group you call people and I don't want to play in front of my TV, not at all.
Consumers of content really only need a tablet.
I'm making generalizations, but that's the current trend
Me too. Even if I had a console I'd probably connect it to my 27" computer diisplay.
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@OctavianDamiean Nah, IE was developed back when there was an actual need for new browsers.
17:28
@nderscore Back it by actual figures and maybe I'll believe you. ;)
the PC won't die, but for the average consumer, there's no point to own a PC when you've got an iPad and an xbox
@Jhawins Oh, you got the point.
Nderscore you suck
sometimes I do :(
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17:29
If we're pointing out things that shouldn't have happened...
PC will not be replaced with console+tablet
@nderscore Wrong again. You'll always need computers, they're used in offices ...
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@copy Bitch (cussy mood today nothing personal), I was in the middle of editing that.
PDF.js is perfectly fine for most simple things.
I'm not saying that there'll be no need for PC's. I'm just saying your average household won't need one.
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17:30
Hmm..... Let me just find that comparison I posted...
@Jhawins Everybody loves pdf.js and you're just hating around
You try writing a 25 page essay on a tablet/console
@nderscore because doing paper work on tablets is so much fun?
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@copy No, hating around would mean that me hate moves around. I specifically hate PDF.js and I have since release day.
17:31
Yeah, writing longer emails etc. is a pain without a physical keyboard
May as well by at out the typewriter
fine, surface rt then
:P
if I could program your cd rom to open and slap you I would.
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4 mins ago, by SomeKittens
The PC is still the dominant area for content creation, and there aren't really any challengers.
Sums all this up
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Philtrum
17:33
why does Vagina get flagged but Anus and Penis are fine?
anyway, I'll just retract my previous comments. PC isn't "dying".
@rlemon flagger is obviously gay
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@rlemon Someone flagged it??
Dear Flagger: When I find you I will make you suck a fart out of my ass.
17:34
@rlemon: Why not a shart instead?
Or a tapeworm?
@ThiefMaster those are random, I prefer not to have it happen period.
when it does, it is never the right time. :/
Dear Flagger: flagged
you sonofabitch
can't you see a Mod in here suggesting I crap in your mouth instead?
Cannot find module 'promise' with jade wtf?
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@rlemon I think this is how troll's are created. Now he's going to flag all your shit.
17:35
pun intended?
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Hehe...
Does anyone know why that is?
@Jhawins I'm going to shit all of his flags.
the person getting flagged should be able to see who flagged him.
The Confrontation Clause of the Sixth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that "in all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right…to be confronted with the witnesses against him." Generally, the right is to have a face-to-face confrontation with witnesses who are offering testimonial evidence against the accused in the form of cross-examination during a trial. The Fourteenth Amendment makes the right to confrontation applicable to the states and not just the federal government. The right only applies to criminal prosecutions, not civil cases or other proce...
SE is a US company, this is part of the sixth amendment
I demand justice!
Heh, Canadian using the Bill of Rights. Heck, we don't even use it.
17:38
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In Canada an accused only has a right to face his accuser when formally charged.
before that point, you do not have the right
@rlemon In soviet Russia you may shut yer mouth and be happy not to be beaten up.
well thankfully I don't live in Soviet Russia
here you open your mouth, get beaten, then we all go out for beers afterwards. the guy who punched you in the face then owes you a beer
if he knocks out teeth he owes you some chicken wings as well.
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17:40
@OctavianDamiean Wat?
@Jhawins literally.
@rlemon But it would be so hard to eat chicken wings without teeth! He's taunting you!
!!game or read
@OctavianDamiean game
17:41
hehehe, the user list makes @javitube look like he is trying REALLY hard to figure out who the person to his left is
@OctavianDamiean remember our discussion about a watcher yesterday?
I ended up with watch make
@FlorianMargaine Yea.
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> The right only applies to criminal prosecutions, not civil cases or other...
@RyanKinal nahh, entire wing in your mouth, use your lips to pull off the meat, grind with gums, swallow.
since make doesn't relaunch if files haven't changed (checking the mtime)
17:42
@Jhawins a flag is a criminal prosecution SE style.
@FlorianMargaine oh, smart.
meta is the judge and jury
@rlemon Yecch.
That sounds gross.
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17:43
@rlemon insert proper reply here
Note to self: instead of "The PC is dying", say "The PC is being replaced by other devices for a lot of it's traditional use cases".
@FlorianMargaine Nice one
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@nderscore Just stop it. It hurts.
Would that have resulted in less tarring and feathering? :P
@copy yup I like it
17:43
@nderscore yeah.
has to be watch make > /dev/null & however
otherwise your terminal is fucked up, and vim is unusable :(
Does anyone know why i get "cannot find module 'promise'" when trying to include jade in node.js?
@Connor probably coz it can't find the module promise
@FlorianMargaine Am i supposed to include that?
@Connor how do you "include" jade in node.js?
17:45
@FlorianMargaine I always have one tag in awesome with the build script running
@FlorianMargaine Well, whatever i try like
app.set('views', __dirname + '/views')
app.set('view engine', 'jade')
or
app.engine('jade', require('jade').__express);
or
just require it, i get that error
@Connor did you npm install jade correctly?
@copy yeah, that works when it's only one. I have several though :|
Its in the modules and i have it in my package.json
I have only jade & express in node_modules
@Connor so when you did npm install, there was no error?
@FlorianMargaine Make could handle multiple files
17:47
delete the node_modules/jade folder, delete the line in the package.json, and run npm install --save jade
No, and if i do it again, it doesn't do anything because they're all installed
@copy different projects
Oh, ok
Delete the line that says "jade": "0.*" right?
17:48
like one is for the html templates, another is for latex
@Connor right
k
Ok, now i just got
npm ERR! cb() never called!
npm ERR! not ok code 0
uh?
you clearly have bigger issues than jade not working if your npm install --save jade crashes
im on windows
well, that explains it
Ok, i just done npm cache clear
see if that does anything
17:52
paste your output in pastebin
k
just waiting to see if this works first
oooo
i didn't get any errors this time
lets try
Ok, that npm cache clear done it, thanks for the help :)
Really @Zirak, really?
17:54
Bananas are great
suuuure
I just want to sleep for a couple days straight. What's wrong with that?
todays chat stats are interesting
@Shmiddty Nothing because yolo.
@Zirak Heck, we still had fun (at least I did)
17:56
what kind of stuff do you guys list under "technical skills" on your resume?
@Zirak terrible
@FlorianMargaine "can make [burnt] toast"
@FlorianMargaine can operate electrical toothbrush without external help.
really?
hahaha
@m59 I'll add you on LoL. Look for a message from Nuworld.
I'm not terribly good, but I'm usually not horrible either.
18:04
Hey guys!
user1596138
Thank you...
Whats up?!
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<^>V
I can still gmail in a VM. suck it administrator.
18:05
email him from your gmail ;)
but don't brag about it
send him like a work order or something
like I know who the sysadmin is
"Lick my shoes"
@rlemon like "Work order: suck less"
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@Shmiddty It's you.
user1596138
18:09
SysAdmin would suck. Or at least being the guy who has to block things like Gmail. I mean, you know the whole time that no one will actually follow the rules.
nah, it's not his call
probably sent down from some fatcat pencilpusher
The funny thing is that it's obviously not being blocked by the firewall...
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Well yeah, but still. You're doing something that is not only pointless, but only causes problems for other people. Which then forces them to waste even more company time to circumvent the filters.
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Q: backbone.js converting my website

user1294510I have been writing my website without much structure. All I did was creating some small jQuery plugins, and separating css file, javascript file and html file. I was wondering if it is worth it to convert my current webpages into MVC with backbone.js. Is it a huge task? Or should I just create m...

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Honestly if my employer blocked Gmail I'd probably bitch about it.
!!read the ES5 spec because it's fun or read a ES book or play BF3
18:12
@OctavianDamiean read the ES5 spec because it's fun
@FlorianMargaine This is what my resume had before I got my current job:
Technical Skills
Development Languages
HTML, CSS, JavaScript/JQuery, XML, ASP.
NET/C#, Flash/ActionScript 3, PHP, XAML/
WPF
Software Proficiencies
Visual Studio 2008, MicrosoftBlend, Adobe Creative
Suite CS4:Photoshop, Dreamweaver, Indesign,Flash,
Illustrator,Fireworks,PremierePro
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!!should I go back to work or play with this command or go smoke a cig or quit my job
@Jhawins Invalid "getter" name back
@Jhawins You should go back to work
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Ok..
Honestly though, I probably wouldn't include a "Technical Skills" section on my resume any more.
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18:17
@Shmiddty You're proficient at InDesign...
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I use InDesign at least 4-5 hours a week, and I still have no idea what I'm doing in comparison to how much it can do.
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!!eval 4/*hoursPerWeek*/*51/*weeksIWorkPerYear*/*1.8/*amountOfTimeWorkingHere*/
@Jhawins 367.2
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That's how many hours I've wasted using InDesign.
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18:21
@Jhawins formal training?
Technical Skills:
Development Languages:
Anything you ask me to learn
Software:
Anything you ask me to learn, with the exception of the stupid shit that would make me unproductive.
> The scholarly authorities on freezing to death seem to be, unsurprisingly, Canadians.
Hah. I <3 xkcd What-If?
Education:
Dropped out of school to write elearning software for Universities and Government offices
my resume isn't very impressive
I just had a 2cute idea.
there is a lot of writing, but not a lot of data.
18:24
Web-based resume, with live-updating "experience" meters
e.g. I started working with javascript in 2004
!!> (Date.now() - new Date('2004-07-01'))/1000/60/60/24/365.25
@Shmiddty 290467631216
@Shmiddty 291504449978
@Shmiddty 9.237220439133521
9 motherflucking years
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A: Room owners should not be throttled in the Chat systems

Lightness Races in Orbit-1, sorry. I dislike the throttling system as it stands today, but see no reason to disable it for room owners only. The principle of SO chat is that room owners are not masters, gods, or supreme beings, and are generally subject to the same rules as everybody else. They do not "moderate" anythin...

can someone please review the answer / comments on this
It is the first real discussion that question has seen
18:31
@rlemon lol thats a great image
@Jhawins your name is Corey Hart?
Loved your song man
> The uploader has not made this video available in your country.
:/
@Loktar No.
My name is Corey Hart.
Canadians can't wear their sunglasses at night?
Oh well then its not funny anymore @Shmiddty !
@rlemon Commented on the question.
lol, I don't have enough rep on meta to downvote
18:38
I do and I did
I would love not to be throttled would be glorious!
lol
question: This is a problem and here is my proposed solution, please give me your thoughts and opinions on both.
answer: I don't like your opinion on the solution, but I agree it is a problem -1 and I have no offered solution that would be better than yours.
this is how I saw it
(I don't get butt hurt from meta, i like the debate, and no one cares about meta anyways)
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"Butt Hurt" <- rlemons phrase that pays
@rlemon Cloud Hurt?
lol
18:45
I flagged it as "not an answer"
Probably a good solution, actually
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@Shmiddty Was afk. What?
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@Loktar No.
@Jhawins yeah Shmiddty set me straight
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> It really bothers me when a simple task is made much harder than it should be. Born from this is my love of user-interface design and application development.
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18:53
@Shmiddty I found you...
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Or someone like you. I'm Google Stalking you. //not really... Can't believe that's a website though
@Jhawins I like that statement.
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@RyanKinal I stole it from Shmiddty's LinkedIn.
I wish Tavern on the Meta was more active
looks like a fun place
user1596138
18:56
^
@rlemon It's a really weird place, with weird people in it. :D
I used to hang out there a year ago.
Time to add Shmiddty on every social network

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