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11:01 AM
@KarelG you mean that awaiting it would throw, so the catch would trigger, but not awaiting it would pass the error along?
so await has a pretty specific meaning in that case?
that would make sense
 
no, only that it is useless
if the function call in the try throws an error , it gets caught so that the catch block can be handled
return await is in essence useless
but using that in a try block is an exception to that
because of the exception handling in catch block. So eslint ignores that return await in try { }
 
isn't that what I said?
 
misread it (well I was not sure what you were saying... )
 
@Neoares It's considered "not nice"
 
@Cerbrus, would you be offdended if I refer to you as "a person from The Hollands" ? :P
 
11:08 AM
@towc Uh, if the awaiting would throw, why is it a lint option?
return await*
 
@littlepootis well, "might" throw
 
Well, not linting anything inside the try block because it might throw is stupid.
 
it's not "anything"
apparently it makes a special rule for things like return-await
 
because return await would mean an extra level of promise. It's useless
 
not in that particular case
I don't have a problem with eslint erroring on the second return-await I had
 
11:13 AM
you mean you want the first one to force the try/catch to be effective ? That sounds logical. Then the linter is at fault for this specific case.
you could make your intent clearer by assigning the result of the await bar() instead of directly returning it
 
@towc lol it still is
 
oh!
they changed LMGTFY!
now you have to click on "Search"
 
@KarelG if you object try/catch with purposeful rejections, sure
 
before you got automatically redirected
 
aha
 
11:15 AM
also, I think they should have a hash database, so you can not see the query in the URL
 
@Neoares you don't need a DB for that
just use btoa/atob
 
true that
security is not an issue
EXCEPT you open fast the console and btoa the token
 
why even hash it ?
 
THEN WHAT!?!?!
 
WHY HASH IT?
 
11:16 AM
@Neoares you can salt it
 
@KarelG THEN WHAT
 
WHY
 
SO WASH IT
@towc I'm not a fan of syntactic salt
 
(16 random base 64 chars) + btoa(query) + (16 random base 64 chars)
 
NO NEED, IT GOT CLEANED THIS MORNING
 
11:17 AM
would be hard to guess it's doing that
 
that must be a long url...
 
@towc how do you decode that without database
I mean, they're 16 random chars
oh wait they're constant
 
@Neoares take away the first and last 16 chars, and then atob
 
wtf xD
I thought salt (in terms of hashing) is a thing you add to make it longer (in terms of time) to break
 
not really
and this also wouldn't be a conventional salt
in this case, it's there to be random data that confuses you
 
11:36 AM
@KarelG Why would I be offended if you call me something that accurately describes me?
 
in a way it's also similar to a really bad hashing salt, because it does affect the rest of the hashed output, not just a part of it, because base64 isn't "modular" with 7
 
@Cerbrus Holland is actually a province
not the country itself
keh you know it already
 
Well, most non-dutch plebs wouldn't know the difference, either way
 
everyone knows the country is called holland and they wear wooden shoes and live in windmills
 
something something canada and "america"
 
11:46 AM
@KendallFrey You forgot the tulips.
 
i didn't
just didn't mention them
 
tbf, walking with clogs is not so easy as it appears
 
You just need to have feet of steel.
 
so cutting of my feet and get some prostheses?
no wonder your country is missing the world championship
 
The joke's on you, I don't care about soccer at all :D
Bunch of crybabies
 
11:51 AM
did you saw zlatan's reaction in that last game he played?
someone stepped on his feet, he slapped his head, then felt down crying.
lol
 
who is zlatan
oh
you're talking about football games
 
his family name is just too long to write
"Ibrahimovic"
 
and hard
ibrahim sounds arabic
they added the "ovic" when they moved to the east of europe?
 
IIRC his parents are from Yugoslavia
> Ibrahimović was born to a Bosniak Muslim father, Šefik Ibrahimović, and a Croat Catholic mother, Jurka Gravić; his parents were immigrants to Sweden from the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, and met for the first time in Sweden.
 
told you
btw, the father's name should have been Ibrahim
except he converted it, as I said before
anyway
 
12:12 PM
@Neoares why do you get to say what someone's name "should be"?
 
I meant it makes more sense to me
 
@KarelG Yea
That's the biggest crybaby of'm all.
And then there's people defending him: "He had an injury!". The guy barely touched his foot and he couldn't walk any more
But he can kick a ball with said foot.
 
I am not sure why people are so terrified about disagreements when done in good faith
I asked for feedback about something I wrong, and everyone is asking if everything is OK as if I've gone mad
 
There isn't a single game where players have such a low pain tolerance as football.
 
12:19 PM
Hu... in the new SO terms
> As part of our new data-retention policy, we will now delete accounts that have been inactive for more than two years and where the user has never engaged in any meaningful activity.
 
Do I lash out at people who disagree with me often? Is that a thing I do?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum not that we noticed here
 
I think it's a culture problem we have generally
 
so, I managed to fuck up in a web of git adds, checkouts, and stashes
 
@Cerbrus it's all about getting a fould called and a possible card
foul*
 
12:20 PM
BTW will workers be spacename prefixed ?
 
People are shit scared to say what they thing on one hand and can't discuss things constructively or say they don't know
 
I wish there was a simple "git go-back" command
 
tbh, being stepped on your toes with football shoes hurts like a bitch
but he could easily do without falling down in pain, we all know that
that's for the ref
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Sooner or later, node libs will have to be spacenamed. It looks like it's the occasion. Backslash on this one could be unexpected
 
12:22 PM
@DenysSéguret I'm fine with namespacing it - but I'd still want node to own worker even if we name it @nodejs/worker since people will inevitably use the non-namespaced version and I don't want to give him control on that name since that is a potential security vulnerability IMO.
 
@GNi33 Did you see the video?
 
yeah
he's being Zlatan
 
We can prohibit the non-namespaced version rather than "take it", but I am more concerned with what's best for the community.
 
source < like wtf zlatan, don't be a little <b-word>.
 
@towc what do you intend to do with that?
 
12:24 PM
... can I say that in here now?
 
with other words: what should it do?
 
@KarelG unfuck my git fucks
 
lol you can. Cursing is not bad.
 
@Cerbrus I don't care about the word, but what in gods name is that website?
 
@KarelG look at my git history, and run the appropriate commands to undo the various things I did
 
12:25 PM
It's a Dutch site for funny videos
 
it only become bad if you use such words against other
 
Well, funny videos, and videos crime being commited so we can track them down and get'm arrested
 
@towc bit hard to accomplish. but give it time. You will be experienced with git over a while
 
that does hurt though. Rule of thumb in football, if something hurts, go down (as sad as that is)
 
12:27 PM
Non namespaced packages should be fast made the exception rather than the norm. And this should probably impact all tooling, including replacing require
 
the slap beforehand was acted upon accordingly anyways
 
the issue was actually caused because a coworker wanted some files to not be writable by the user, and they only appear in a branch. When I switched away from that branch, those files didn't go away, and they remained tracked
 
@GNi33 He only got a yellow card for that slap
 
no, straight red
the other guy got yellow for stepping on Zlatan
 
so I tried to delete those files, but somehow managed to delete some more files
 
12:27 PM
Then why did the reff pull out a yellow first?
Ah
 
which is fair I guess
 
Meh, Zlatan shouldn't put his precious fragile feet (almost) under another player's shoes.
 
red card to zlatan LOL
I just saw the video
anyway, I don't think the other guy did it on purpose
 
I think he's just really pissed off for joining such a bad team
 
also, what's this "video review" thing?
 
12:30 PM
Video refree
 
Video assisted refereeing
 
it's not implemented everywhere
 
I don't care about soccer and I know about it...
 
not in chamions league, nor in the spanish league
 
they'll use it at the world cup this year
 
12:30 PM
@GNi33 nice
 
and the german cup competition has it on test drive iirc
don't think any league uses it at this point
except the MLS that is
 
@GNi33 As long as the video ref doesn't hit someone crossing the road...
 
that's why they don't use it yet
it's hella dangerous
 
what is "on test drive"?
oh, it's still in testing phase
 
they use it in the cup competition to see if it works for them
 
12:32 PM
@Neoares it will be used in CL the next season
 
but why would it hit someone at the road
 
before adopting it in the league
 
our country has been using it this year
 
is not just a review system? using conventional cameras?
 
they did in the league?
 
12:33 PM
@Neoares It's a joke.
"Test drive" is usually something you do on the road.
 
an extra referee behind a screen has access to all recorded imagins
 
oh
too much englanderino jokes
 
so that a fool or something that has happened but did not got seen by the main ref could be reviewed
 
I need english +3 to get them
 
@Neoares "Your English is too low to use this conversation option."
 
12:34 PM
yeah, I think it's a good change to the game
if they manage to use it consistently
 
Go grind some more English
 
eg a player got tackled near the penalty area
 
german fans have been extremely pissed off by the inconsistent decisions after video review in the cup this year
 
I can use "tea with biscuits" to get english +2 for 90 minutes
 
if the field ref points to the penalty area, and the video ref sees that it has happened outside, he can inform the ref to correct hsi mistake
 
12:35 PM
Then the ref can decide if that player is being a little b**** or if they've actually broken a bone :D
 
yeah, that would already be a huge improvement
or calling valid / not valid goals
 
@GNi33 yes, and they did it during the whole play-off 1 competition (all games)
 
as the game usually is on a break after those occasions anyways
@KarelG how did it work out?
 
well, as usual with new things: being in child shoes
 
both of the european competitions this year had such shitty refereeing that I'd really like to give it a shot
 
12:37 PM
there are some improvements required and will be implemented for the next season
like a central VAR
 
interesting
 
currently it is with 3 vehicles
 
virtual augmented reality?
 
each vehicle is placed at a stadium where a game occurs
 
central as in there'll be a studio in Brussels where referees sit for every game?
 
12:38 PM
but the communication was not always good and some VAR were not trained very well
 
like they do in the NFL?
 
yes. To centralize the knowhow
and to remove the communication problems
 
yeah, that makes sense
 
also prevents the movement of those equipment around
 
thing still is, what do you do with wrongfully called offsides for example
you can't take those out of the game
but foul / goal decisions would already be great
 
12:40 PM
eh, there have been situations where a small offside got reported :P
eg a feet offside
because the VAR had equipment to draw a line to help in his decision
 
I want hawkeye in football
 
it exists ...
 
where
I saw it on tennis, but not in football
at least no in spain or in european competitions
 
it is being used in CL and EL ...
it has a different name tho
"goal line technology"
The premier league uses it
eh scratch that
In association football, goal-line technology (sometimes referred to as a Goal Decision System) is the use of electronic aid to determine if a goal has been scored or not. In detail, it is a method used to determine when the ball has completely crossed the goal line in between the goal-posts and underneath the crossbar with the assistance of electronic devices and at the same time assisting the referee in awarding a goal or not. The objective of goal-line technology (GLT) is not to replace the role of the officials, but rather to support them in their decision-making. The GLT must provide a clear...
 
I'd like to see them try that in hockey
 
12:55 PM
can anyone explain me what this does?
var ArrayElementList = [];
ArrayElementList.push(1);
 
Which part of it?
 
2nd
 
push?
rtfm
 
I think I get something like,

ArrayElementList[1]
 
@Breathing arrays start from 0 :)
 
12:58 PM
oh got it
 
except when they don't
 
@KendallFrey sorry man
 
good morning friends
 
guess who just left his job :D
 
user1596138
Broken monitor came at 930 yesterday. Replacement says it's on the truck already for today
 
user1596138
Siiick
 
@MadaraUchiha that doesn't bother me at all though since it's clear it's just public attention. I'm just honestly not sure if it's a good idea. worker is the name we used for this since 2015 but I'm not sure it's the best or only name.
 
I don't know if I should wait before looking for another job
and if so, how long
 
1:38 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum Like I wrote on facebook
 
It's pretty evident that the dude is grabbing names for the sake of grabbing names
 
BTW, want to sit on promise use cases on Saturday?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Sure
 
Friday also works for me
@Linkgoron if you're done being a troll on GitHub, you're welcome to join.
 
1:49 PM
@towc Didn't you just start?
 
@BenCraig 20 days ago
I'm glad we caught the incompatibility early though
the team lead wasn't sharing what his problems with me really were, it wouldn't have ended well if I stayed
 
what
 
You quit?
 
they fired you?
 
the CTO hired me with some expectations, the team lead had different expectations, and told the CTO about it before he hired me, but he hired me anyway
 
user1596138
1:54 PM
@towc I thought you meant wait to leave. If you're already free there's no reason not to start looking right away unless you don't want to
 
but he didn't tell me what his expectations actually were, but he kept complaining to the CTO. The CTO's intentions were to then change the expectations of the team lead, but he didn't manage
they told me about it, so I decided to quit myself
@Jhawins emotional tiredness?
I was quite happy there
 
user1596138
So you quit on day 6?
 
user1596138
Or you gave no notice and just left
 
I'd like to think I kept my cool through the whole process today. I'm probably still going to hang out with the rest of the coworkers and the CTO
just not the team lead
@Jhawins day 20
well, 14
 
user1596138
So you have 2 weeks left?
 
user1596138
1:56 PM
Or did you legit just say "Im out" lmao
 
I was hired on the 3rd of May
I don't know how you count days
 
@Jhawins more like "I'm out lmao"
 
@Jhawins well, when they told me about it, it was clear that the intention is to fire me
 
user1596138
You're generally supposed to not stop work on a days notice, that's all. You were only there 20 days so meh
 
@towc then why the fuck do you quit?
if they fire you they have to pay you, if you quit they don't
 
1:57 PM
I just beat them to it, also to show that at that point, it was mutual, so it was kind of ok
 
user1596138
Might just not mention this job on future resumes, FYI
 
@Neoares they're still going to pay me
 
@Neoares not if there's a trial period
 
oh, that depends, for sure
 
in Austria there is for usually 1 month. Not sure about Slovenia though
 
1:57 PM
@Jhawins here's the thing, it wasn't because of something I did
it was an internal difference in the company, from before I joined
 
user1596138
@Neoares He was there like 2 weeks of work so I doubt it matters lol
 
user1596138
@towc So what. You just abandoned your job on a moments notice lol
 
I did what I was asked and I did it to the expectations I was told to stay up to
 
@towc "sure sure, next"
 
user1596138
Maybe the situation was bad.. But what you did is called abandoning your job
 
user1596138
1:58 PM
You got fired
 
@Jhawins well, the planned to fire me a few seconds later
 
that's contradictory
 
user1596138
On paper anyway. Nobody says someone quit that just left one morning
 
abandoning job and getting fired
 
I said "well, ok, I'll commit the last changes and pack my stuff"
 
user1596138
1:58 PM
Fired for abandoning the job lol
 
if anything, I think it showed I was professional about it
 
@Jhawins he didn't get fired
 
well, I kinda got fired. It's in between. It was mutual and instant
 
user1596138
It doesn't matter if you say you quit lol if they were in the process of firing you...
 
user1596138
> NOPE can't fire me I say I quit!
 
1:59 PM
point is, I could have argued to stay
 
user1596138
Doesn't work without notice lmao
 

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