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2:00 PM
Well, the average guess is about 13 and a little
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@Cerbrus probably accurate
 
Congrats, you're nowhere close to legal.
 
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Prophetic JS chat room
 
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You guys should guess which person is president next year.
 
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!!afk
 
2:02 PM
@KendallFrey you made a saturn V last night iirc?
 
I think I saw something like that
 
I think I saw it too
 
Hey ppl
 
@rlemon Yes, it's still in development
 
2:02 PM
I hope you take sweet pics like this when its done
 
How would you do in regex to assert than a capturing group is present only once ?
 
@rlemon is that from the YT vid?
 
My political speech: "The earth is a sphere. There are no borders on it. We made them all up. We should therefore behave on a unified globe." - drops mike, done...
 
@rlemon I'll do better, I'll upload it if you want
 
2:03 PM
stock parts?
 
@jmb.mage The earth isn't a globe
 
yeah
with the expansion
 
@rlemon lol
 
sweet, yea. craft file would be neat
 
@jmb.mage earth is a turtle, duh
 
2:04 PM
I don't think I'll be able to get the staging right cause undocking messes it all up
 
@Ikari common mistake. it's a tortoise
 
I made some changes like half full fuel tanks because the ones that are the right size have too much
 
almost the same, one drowns in water, one doesn't
 
and added reaction wheels because RCS isn't implemented very well
 
@Cerbrus fucking off google :(
american prices. I thought "o what? it went down in price?"
 
2:06 PM
Second testing mission is tonight
 
> Mukava
 
That's a Klingon!
 
wtb parity
 
huh, interesting: funcontrol.me
a company who'll be working here is developing that
 
@KendallFrey dude, I need your help, with something that is probably incredibly simple.
 
2:14 PM
you?
 
uh oh
nice
 
!!burn
 
I don't get it
 
> Does your child play too much?
Mobile devices have become a part of our children's lives. But it can be difficult for children to control their desires. As a result, they spend too much time on useless games and applications!

But what if we could use this situation for the benefit of the child?
That's a really aggressive opening
 
2:15 PM
@Cereal yeah :/
but the concept is actually interesting
 
I wouldn't call games or applications useless
 
I half-wish my parents did that with me
 
Given orbital elements, how do I determine orbit rotation in relation to a reference frame. Like, a reference direction to be precise
 
Don't worry once they get older they will find it more difficult to control their desires, but they will spend less time playing games
 
it's probably aimed at over-controlling parents anyway
 
2:16 PM
I can get the actual rotation from that
later
 
but it shouldn't be
 
@KamilSolecki er, what?
 
sensible parents could probably really use something like this too
 
I mean, they go to school for like 8 hours a day for education, idk why I'd want to shove it down their throats afterwards
But then, I'm not a parent
 
like, rotation around a normal vector or whatnot. Basically Given orbital elements I need to somehow place it correctly in a 3d space
 
2:17 PM
Next we're going to lock them up in the house because playing outside isn't educational enough
 
I have like 8 hours of school then 6 hours of cram school
 
@KamilSolecki Would cartesian coordinates work instead?
 
I'm supposed to create a rolling cache of a database, that stores a month of data at a time
To reduce hitting the api
But I'm going to need to hit the api every request anyway to update
it's been 10 minutes, and it's still grabbing last month's data, this is ridiculous
 
@KendallFrey I'll need them in the end after all
but cartesian X, Y, Z + Pitch Yaw Roll is what I would need then
 
Or are you just trying to get spherical coordinates first and then convert to cartesian
 
2:20 PM
I know how to get X, Y, Z given keplerian (orbital elements)
I have no idea how to determine the P Y R
 
wait what do those have to do with orbits
 
because orbits can be elliptical and tilted
 
I don't think you know what those terms mean
You might be looking for inclination, longitude of ascending node, and argument of periapsis
 
wait im retarded
I do have all the info I need
 
2:23 PM
so retarded I deorbited
 
ayyy
 
yeah I didnt look at it the way I should be lmao
because in the end its me who determines how in relation to the base reference plane I get all of that, and it wont matter at all
uh
 
Mcdonalds Foot Onions
 
I just love his voice lol
 
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2:29 PM
Why?
 
user9107868
NVM
 
why does anyone love anything?
 
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nvm
 
because ashley makes me
 
What is love?
 
2:30 PM
@Luggage just to get hurt?
 
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NeVer Mind
 
if i dont love her, she frowns at me
 
@hilli_micha That's cute tbh
 
2:31 PM
@KamilSolecki now im curious, what are you making
 
@Cereal baby hurt me
 
@KendallFrey I showed you, didn't I? The KSP calculator with visualisation
 
HARDER
 
I just started on the visualisation part
 
huh? i didn't see it
 
2:32 PM
@hilli_micha too true
 
A mod, or?
 
no, a webapp
I just finished extracting all the planet data from KSP yesterday
at T = 0
and more things
 
So what is this supposed to do?
 
things
 
I had a similar idea. The idea of having a programmatic KSP solar system (or our solar system) and trying to make my own navigation system is appealing.
 
2:36 PM
So far I have an idea for 3 calculators:

1. Satellite deployment Planner, that will show you how to deploy satellites depending on your input (height etc etc.)

2. Trip planner, that will show needed deltaV and optimal paths etc

3. Planetary info, that will display all the information about Planets and orbits and what not
 
My jetbrains student license is expiring this week :(
 
As the last cannot really be found on the internet in a complete form
and it takes about 40 loc to get it from ksp
 
yea, i'd love to make an advanced trip planner that also calculates "point of no return"s and such. Giving you options throughout the trip.
 
If anybody has any ideas for more I'll happily take them in
 
@Cereal send another application when this expires?
 
2:38 PM
The first I don't understand, the second I already have, the third I don't get the usefulness.
 
I'm not a student anymore
 
:<
 
Not trying to shit on you, just want to shit on you
 
The problem is I use like.. every jetbrains app
 
@KendallFrey the first is like - how to deploy 3 satellites in one launch for example
so that they are evenly spaced
 
2:39 PM
then you'd probably need to give jetbrains all your monies
 
It's like 250CAD to get the all products pack for a year, after a discount
 
launch to the AP you want the satelites and and a PE that will space them out. Then each one can circularize at the right time.
like you want to calculate that?
 
@Luggage there is nicer ways, lemme show you a pic
 
Do satellites at geo circularize themselves or have another vehicle that does it (real life)?
 
@KamilSolecki Just for fun, make a calculator for finding multiple slingshot opportunities Voyager 2 style
 
2:41 PM
@KendallFrey make mechjeb2 work in 1.4
thanks
 
s/mechjeb/everything/
 
This thing has been grabbing the last month of data for 33 minutes. I'm beginning to think I wrote the script wrong
 
I'm good with just mechjeb
 
I'm not even trying to play, just waiting for 1.4 fixes
 
Kendall: Do you know how good patched conics are for navigating in real life? I think they are good enough to go the the moon. Not sure about further.
 
2:42 PM
tweakscale and scatterer already work
 
@rlemon trust me i feel the burn
 
KAS, KIS, and extraplanetary launches are the ones blocking me afaik
 
@Luggage You'll need minor course corrections but otherwise I'd feel safe using them
 
@ssube kis and kas are updated
extraplanetary launch pads I think is updated
 
so yea.. I have this idea of a "user friendly" solar system navigation interface. Like what you'd use when space ships become like cars (probably never).
 
2:43 PM
can't remember. but I know kis and kas are
 
@Luggage
 
hm, might be time to revisit then
I'm stuck in this terraria hole now though :(
 
@Luggage At that point I don't think we'd need that, the computer could just calculate trajectories automatically
 
almost have the k8s server up, it's just ignoring the -autocreate and -world args
runs fine with docker run -it, but I can't get it to autostart
 
yea. the computer will calculate trajectories, but give you options based on dV. Present the fast option and the slower one that will let you go somewhere else.
 
2:45 PM
@KamilSolecki I like your earing
 
warn you that you have exceeded your budget on one leg and presetn options to correct the mission to let you get home
I don't think anyone would really use this. But you know how you have the desire to automate everything (like in your job, etc).
 
I think quantum teleportation will be better than old fashioned rockets
 
confirmed. stargate is the future
 
also a ksp career mode where you need regular supply missions and you need to automate them to make prograess in the game
 
if we find the stargate(s) on earth, I'm definitely joining that program
 
2:47 PM
someone needs to make a stargate mod
 
automated KSP would be fantastic
 
so I can setup stargates on different worlds
 
what I imagine when you talk about your code-only ksp-like game
 
if only kOS was more powerful
 
I want to see how it looks without scifi channel original graphics :P
 
2:47 PM
then supply missions to mun base could be just a shuttle flying through the stargate
 
@rlemon and then fly death gliders through them?
 
yes
 
@Luggage That would be Manley mode for sure
 
that would be sweet
 
kOS is very powerful. have you seen the Kerbal Space Programming series on youtibe? they do simple machine learning to plot courses and such
 
2:47 PM
you'd have to power them
 
especially if you made them fold up and put stargates in space
 
which would be daunting
(to make it fun)
 
so you could line up, fold your wings, and glide through
 
@Luggage yeah but i fucking hate the syntax
 
yea, the syntax is dumb, i agree.
 
2:48 PM
@ssube it would give capacitors more use
(powering them)
 
imagine the orbits you could set up by building up speed in deep space and then gating to a planet
or the launches
 
I've toyed with the idea of a Factorio/KSP hybrid playthrough, where every rocket launched in KSP is first built in Factorio
 
I'm sure someone has already built a puddle jumper with retractable wings
hrm... @KamilSolecki you have minimal experience with modding ksp. how hard would a teleport be to make?
 
btw, @rlemon and anyone else interested, here is the dockerfile/service for terraria. Works besides the -autocreate
 
@rlemon by looking at the api
super easy
 
2:50 PM
@rlemon you mean GateShip.
 
you can literally do anything to the world I think
 
@Luggage 🍋 shoo you
 
@rlemon Pretty sure it already exists, sort of
 
@KendallFrey yea I wanna make a stargate mod
 
2:52 PM
yea I've used that mod
 
warp rather than teleport, but iirc it keeps your velocity
 
it's nice
it's not as useful without To Boldly Go mod
 
@rlemon Also, that's pretty much what HyperEdit does
 
@KendallFrey yea, I know other mods do parts of what I want. I just have no clue how tedious it would be to make my mod do those things
literally have spent 0 seconds looking into how to mod ksp
 
@rlemon assuming the stargate would be like a ship part
 
2:53 PM
well, more like 6 seconds. I asked Kamil
 
and you made a model
 
I've fixed some mod bugs, but never made a nontrivial mod myself
 
I could make a model.. probably
 
deploying it in game is maybe 30 minutes if you dont understand anything
 
making (or finding) a stargate model should be easy
the gate effect will be harder
 
2:54 PM
mod ideas: you'd have to figure out an address system. one stargate per planet kinda deal.
you'd need a massive amount of power to run it.
you'd be able to walk through, and bring ships through (if they fit)
if a stargate is blocked on one end, you can't connect.
if it has a iris, you esplode
would be cool, but dont' think it's possible. event horizon "swoosh" alters the environment (like in the show)
*if shit is in front of it, that isn't an iris
 
we should make a collab project then!
One problem though
 
can the swoosh do heat damage?
can it be a heat swoosh? can mods spawn those?
 
How about ship going through stargate
as in
 
same question for the iris, can the existing explosion causes be used?
 
just entered
 
2:57 PM
it would have to suddently teleport
 
a mod concerning stargate stuff+?
 
not progressively move through
 
which game ?
 
@KamilSolecki probably when the control-part crosses through?
@KarelG KSP
 
mhhh is it a possible ?
 
2:58 PM
maybe you could even get the center of mass and use that as the "which side are you on" decider
 
there are not enough planets
 
@KamilSolecki like in the show, you enter the event horizon, complete, THEN you are sent to the destination
so instant movement is fine
 
Now I want to play no man's sky
 
Yeah that wouldnt be a problem then I guess
 

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