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20:00
I used to SSH tunnel to quite a good affect to both subvert and avoid detection so that would be ideal if you have that much access to your chromebook
My PHP proxy in school was echo file_get_contents($_GET['url']);
^
lol
^ my school site had that on a homepae
and the site in HS are still around
there wasn't enough shit online during my time in school to care.
we had fun getting aroudn network security to play UT
@BenFortune hahaha yeah I ended up adding more stuff later on. I think most of it was cookie based, image parsers through redirect services (so they still worked) and a proxy JS service (so those still worked)
20:01
When I was in high school we would take over PCs with bootable usb's
to create admin accounts
when I was in highschool we used floppies
no jokes.
I believe that. You are >30, right?
i never "hacked" growing up, i just wrote mIRC scripts and modified ut99 mods
USB were around, but expensive
If any of you guys like hack-challenge sites that aren't terrible (looking at you hackthissite) I can't recommend enigmagroup.org enough
20:02
@KamilSolecki I'll be 31 this year
I mean... even we used floppy disks in school
@KevinB I "hacked" friends, family, and the school I went too. but that was script kiddy hacking
@rlemon my roommate is older than you
I used Flash in high school
20:03
At least you aren't a grandad like @Loktar
@SterlingArcher do you chew his food for him?
@Vap0r hah I remember doing hackthissite when I was 14-15
I'd say I'm the same generation with all other people who watched the original running of "Where in the world is Carmen Santiago"
This was my first contact with JS then
20:04
if you were old enough to watch and appreciate that show when it aired, we are probably within the same generation
@KamilSolecki yeah there was a guy, psychomarine who beat hackthissite and was #1, got bored waiting for them to make challenges and so created his own site.
^I dont even know the show :)
It's these sites that caused me to want to program.
I didn't know programming until I was 20
So 6 years ago
20:05
I was pretty fucking awful. Came in asking "how do I hack". They said "learn to code" and I said fuck that I want to hack
@rlemon I just googled it. I do know it, but Ive maybe seen 2? episodes
pleb
you probably didn't even watch the smoggies
Well that are the drawbacks of being 22 :D
I still can't hack
^Neither, tho I have a full Kali setup as a second-boot
20:06
@KamilSolecki being 22 is awesome
@SterlingArcher lol you learn a couple of hacking "patterns" and then the rest of it is just being clever.
@Loktar I bet you watched the smoggies
you were close enough to the border to get it
I will say with 100% certainty that learning how to hack will make you a better programmer not just with security but in your creativity and ability to complete a challenge
I wouldn't call it "hacking"
it's QA
just take a course on how to properly approach SQA
20:07
I don't see how learning how to slam an ax into something makes you a better programmer
then ignore all of it when you're an actual dev
@rlemon the drawing style reminds me of the best cartoons of my childhood, but I have not seen the Smoggies.
@Alesana hacking isn't just brute force pen testing
@rlemon I mean there's that aspect. But I did some things with SharePoint MS didn't think was possible
it was a Canadian show
I'm not sure how far it reached
20:08
And that's only because I had a lot of hacking knowledge
@Vap0r which is... SQA dude
'hacking' an application to find exploits and bugs is the job of a SQA specialist
How would you define true hacking
like NCIS pentagon login shit?
Oh I was making a joke
@Alesana oh sorry, I thought it was a comparison
@Vap0r Heh, when I was hacking-curious, I would go around the IT stores and create backdoors to the system, by setting up a admin-rights cmd on the login screen
20:09
ignore me
I don't have a good definition of hacking. it's been bastardised too much, so I avoid it in the context of programming
@SterlingArcher lol that's really subjective. And will wildly vary depending on who you ask.
@KamilSolecki the best I did was shutdown every computer at best buy with a remote shutdown command
@SterlingArcher oh you just reminded me
The password for every demo computer was "bestbuy" i mean come on
20:10
@SterlingArcher we updated the ghost machine on the network and scheduled a shutdown for all computers at the same time
at least it wasn't "guest"
Eh I should make funnier jokes. Anyways, to me hacking is just a broad term that means to find a method to get restricted access to something
@SterlingArcher my definition would be someone who can come up with non-standard solutions to problems which might not have a standard answer.
Is it bad to post answers to old posts where there is already an accepted answer
@Vap0r I like that
20:11
if the(your) answer is bad, yes
@Arrow no, technology improves
10
A: How can I pad a value with leading zeros?

Sterling ArcherIn a proposed (stage 3) ES2017 method .padStart() you can simply now do (when implemented/supported): string.padStart(maxLength, "0"); //max length is the max string length, not max # of fills

see my CW answer here
new tech came out, and gave a new answer
@KevinB sometimes there just wouldn't be a standard solution. Case in point. I wrote a MS office file parser back before they had descriptions on how to do it.
I had client websites that used <marquee> back in the day
Said functionality was requested to exist on our website a few years back
they wanted a news ticker
@KevinB that would be true regardless
20:13
they wanted a news banner
that scrolled horizontally
It was not genius or elegant, it was shitty work, with brute-forced solutions (a loop that would choose x amount of bytes from the header, strip it, then attempt sloppy XML parsing to get over the errors that WILL be in the doc lol)
@KevinB haha exactly.
yea, no.
@SterlingArcher In middle school, on a school trip, we went to a shopping mall. Our group of friends went to some big IT shop (target like). We found an unlocked PC, so being the kids we were we went straight to a porn site. How content were we when the porn started playing ON EVERY SINGLE SCREEN IN THE WHOLE STORE.
20:13
@Vap0r in high school we had lockdown software. I learned out to unlink my computer by opening word, typing, and hitting the shutdown button. It would drop the lockdown software first, then ask me if I wanted to save my document, I'd say cancel, and bam. Shutdown aborted, and nobody could monitor my screen
our international site had one until we had it shut down and replaced with the one i maintain
one time I took a usb drive up to the ISS and it fucked shit up pretty bad.
Question: Do I need to configure HTTPS on an electron app?
@SterlingArcher that absolutely would be considered hacking, more along what hacker call skid, but definitely not the definition of a skid. Basically skid devolved to mention any hack that wasn't technically difficult/good
@corvid for what purpose?
20:15
@rlemon I want to set up a service worker for my HTTP requests
is it on localhost?
at the moment yeah
localhost is assumed safe. no need for https.
@SterlingArcher My idea on that was if it works well then it's not a skid technique. Hell, russia shut down ukrainian power grid by sending phishing emails.
20:16
I still don't get how to use these service workers :\
look at the heartwood on that cedar
@SterlingArcher That was early enough that you could have closed it down through the task manager most likely.
@Trasiva probably, but back then I wasn't computer savvy so I didn't think/know of that most likely
Best hack I ever did was for BB forum software using an image injection technique through the avatars and persistent XSS through the search. Admin priv escalation through cookie hijacking. Developed a google dork for it and found over 3,000 hackable sites.
best "hack" I did was when @Loktar, myself and some others from this chat XSS'd some dudes game and told him how to fix it
20:19
@BadgerCat hi
we were taking the piss, and he was being pretty chill about it
@rlemon lol XSS is actually fun I think, there are a lot of avenues you can go to screw with someone through there.
Scripting is fun too, like games
it was some nodejs / browser game and we were injecting into his leaderboard
it was pretty fun for the couple hours it lasted
I used C++ once to move the mouse to specific places on my screen and click to auto-battle in an MMO
20:21
That probably wasn't my most technically difficult hack, but definitely my widest reaching hack.
I worked SQA for an elearning company for ~5 years
I once made a server list for a game, querying a master server. Some smart fucker changed his server name and XSS'd it
Lol some of the cleanest hacks I've seen were actually obscure windows features
so I broke a lot of production code on purpose
but none of it would I consider "hacking" in the sense you're thinking
@SterlingArcher we made a script for DayZ to go through all lock combinations to hijack peoples' bases
20:22
lmao
IT worked perfect till they developed an 'anti-cheat'
basicallyeverytime you input the code wrong, it downed you for 5s
autorun.inf for USB drives that pointed to windows Icon DLL so it would display Open Device in Windows Explorer with the proper folder icon for OS. It was like an OS level phishing attack.
But raiding donators' bases was a treat, trust me
user1596138
@ssube you still have your V10?
20:24
@rlemon I suppose. I don't know that's why I always say the line is real blurry. I would absolutely call a blind SQL injection on a production DB that you have no knowledge of the layout on a "hack".
user1596138
It won't update, it's on Android 5.1.1 lmfao
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Q: How to convert to best prefix using js-quantities?

AlinexI have a value of `1200000 mm' and I wan't to have a method which automatically transfers to the best prefix like: import Qty from 'js-quantities' const qty = new Qty(1200000, 'mm').toBest() // now set to 1.2, 'km' same as doing to('km') directly Is this possible anyhow? Or how can I get the...

good question
Though it would make it seem easier to discount throwing a flash drive in a classroom and waiting for someone to pick it up a hack, but not only is that a hack but a common one. I don't like the "hack" terminology in that instance. Neither do I like it for phishing, but it is undeniable those are probably the two biggest attack vectors
@SterlingArcher streamable.com/59t0 old but I had forgotten about it
@SterlingArcher "What have you tried, yada yada"
20:27
@BenFortune "asking on SO"
Time for some react.
Hi, my name is '; drop table images; --Alex McMillan 1 min ago
baking soda + vinegar.
@KamilSolecki
@MadaraUchiha you missed a nice goodnessSquad, although to be completely honest you did the right thing.
We had 8 pull requests to Node
@MadaraUchiha I missed a lot of events because of work, it's always a hard call. It's part of being an adult.
@KevinB lol
20:33
@rlemon lol
The end gets me
Sir, you're breaking the camera
@rlemon im going hard with that vinegar though.
Baking soda component is already finished
now for the main ingredient
Is there any IDE support for JavaScript there I can run unit tests directly from code editor? Like how I can run manually with VS test?
does the ide having a built-in terminal qualify?
npm test
I haven't seen it in vs code, nor in VS 2017
Did not try and intellij IDEs though
20:38
@KevinB .npm if using node interactive window, right?
dunno what you're talkin bout
dunno
i just use vscode terminal
there's a vscode plugin that lets you run npm scripts
god damn, you know a wonderful way to make me exit out of registration and fuck off on your product? strong password limits.
it's 2017, we know these are dumb. why?!
20:41
or "You've used that password in the past year, pick another"
lower limits for characters is about the only restriction you need
any of you guys have any idea how to use haskell?
@KevinB Oh hell no I hate this one
> you password must be between 8 and 14 characters
thanks for the roadmap, assholes.
or when they exclude some characters
like not allowing #%^#$%^
20:42
> cannot contain spaces
the haskell chat is well empty
by design
@William because kendall isn't there. If he is, its full
no spaces is the worst for me, or EVEN WORSE was a site that allowed me to enter spaces, then stripped them from my password when it saved it
20:42
@rlemon oh fuck that would piss me off
I can't remember what site it was now. I might have mentioned in the chats. I'll check the transcript
or when they accept n characters in the password, but then when you go to login the password field has an upper limit less than n characters
to be honest, I have never had spaces in my passwords
I would just say (more than 10 chars and avoid dictionary words)
I almost always use a passphrase now
20:43
doesn't facebook strip some stuff and put everything in lowercase?
ohh btw, godaddy stores passwords in a 2 way hash
support agents (despite what their press releases say) can access it without your permission.
fuck that noise
happened to me in the past. hastily moved from godaddy
@rlemon My trick to both keep track of passwords ad make them slightly more complicated is that I have a part of it that is always the same, and the other part varies - it is a hashcode for something I feel related to the site
user7480455
hey all, question about submit buttons... can some one point me to an alternative to a submit button that will submit the fields but also allow for a function to be run first before the submit happens? Basically I need to re-enable some fields before the submit runs can I can't find any examples on how this can be done. THanks in advance
you capture the onSubmit for the form, add your information, then run form.submit() @007
Why am I getting undefined ._.
How do you limit unsuccessful login attempts in react? And I mean something that would work if someone wanted to prevent you from limiting them
you do that from the server, not react?
@SterlingArcher one thing to point out
20:47
Yeah I'm stupid for some reason I thought you'd need a page postback to solve that but a POST request would work just as well
    if (recurse) {
        toBest(num, nextUnit);
very recursive @SterlingArcher
IF you want to have more units, like dm, then your code will fail @SterlingArcher
as they arent 1:1000
Oh yeah I'm just playing with mm to km
> return toBest(num, nextUnit);
you can convert it to pass in a divisor number etc
20:48
c'man man
@rlemon ffs
hahah
I didn't notice that
despite everything I show in here, I'm not a totally terrible coder
I sometimes have my moments of competency
Yeah I always knew that being competent is for adults. I will just roll back to my incompetency-cave
It might upset my customers though.
!!afk zoom zoom
21:00
!!afk incompetency
21:12
@BenFortune nothing wrong with that! :P
@rlemon lmao that was awesome
@Loktar rlemon is afk: zoom zoom
@Loktar You're like the father I never had
holy shit @rlemon I did watch this!!!
@BenFortune :P
21:31
🚀
hmm.. just realized that i can't read the webpack release post on medium completely because my font doesn't support all the emoji's used. i just see a bunch of boxes
@rlemon hm?
@FlorianMargaine rlemon is afk: zoom zoom
@FlorianMargaine sorry, I'll stop lying
@KevinB OS?
21:47
win7
@Shmiddty oh hi
@BadgerCat oh hi
21:59
wut
@KevinB oh
I bought a wacom intuos pro tablet
Now I just need to learn how to draw
What you do is you take the stylus and drag it across the surface of the wacom to form shapes
Yeah, so far I've figured out
But I can only draw penis shapes
22:02
What else would you need to draw?
Just overlap the penis shapes to make other shapes. Like penis shapes.
I want to draw a deer or a koala
@Shmiddty thanks, that's helpful
I'm here to serve (penis shapes)
> Don't draw any more penises
That last step
22:05
@BadgerCat I have a wacom screen, and I have to say they are amazing
the only problem
is that they're like $5k?
mine was 4-5 k yeah
I wanted one for a while but could never justify it
I do a lot of graphics (like banners and stuff) so it REALLY comes in handy
@KamilSolecki wow, you must be rich
22:07
@BadgerCat ehm, no. The full story is as follows
My company is in the same building as my parents; My mom is a designer (I actually share my office with her)
you're supposed to say "Yes, I'm wealthy beyond your imagination"
The tablet is split for us both
and then throw in some winky faces
meaning she does design on it
😉 ;)
22:08
I do my design on it
I also code on it lol
Its pretty nice for coding, having a 35? inch screen
Your mom hired you?
no. I have my separate company.
I started not even a year ago, so they let me use the building :D
For me and my only employee
what does it cost to form an LLC?
or are you not in the USA
Not sure anywhere else, but in Poland its free
just requires shitton of paperwork
@Shmiddty do you have a job now?
22:11
no.
I applied for a web dev job at a gaming company though
Oh, that's nice
Apply for web dev at spacex
apply for meme dev at ndugger Corp.
@Shmiddty could get you an interview in Uber in SF if you're interested
I have to visit east coast someday
west*
22:13
Also Youtube, I think
it's just like the east coast, only everything is backwards
TIL west coast to east coast is like australia to the rest of the world
planes fly upside down there right?
it's only logical that they do
@ndugger @KendallFrey @rlemon I strongly suggest those discussion vids: youtube.com/watch?v=GH8qhQnRbJk
You will learn a whole new world
22:18
no
@KamilSolecki that "yo"
is there a such thing as an "expressful server"?
> if you are doing the bisexual
oh, wait, that's actually a different kind of node server.
this man needs to be heard
22:19
what
> mister god
omg i can't
> sexing with the many person
@BadgerCat are you working for uber now?
I love the assumption that anyone whom isn't straight is fucking everything that moves
> if you are doing the sexing you can get the cancer
@towc no, but one of their top recruiters is my friend
of the gay people I know, that's true for some of them
22:21
@ndugger right lol
uber is under so much shit right now
@Luggage but that seems equally true for straight people
unless the offer was very very profitable I wouldn't even want a position
user2620028
@Shmiddty $500 where i am at least
22:22
I believe he isnt even talking about bisexuality to be honest
@towc what are you doing now anyway?
working/studying/changing your last name to lambda?
@KamilSolecki he seems to think that "buying sex" and "bisexual" is the same thing, lol
He is actually talking about buy-sexual (prostitution
Yeah
what a weirdo
22:24
All fear the STD cancer
what have i woken up to
lol
capitalist-sexuals
that's painful to listen to. his english is awful
> This time no "yo"
I rofled
We recently found out there's a german guy in our office, I was mortified for all the things I've said out loud to copy in "private".
22:26
> I am make Piss in the World.. stop Isreal and Juice fiting
"I am become Juice, Pisser of Worlds"
@ndugger "ex-government service retard" should win an award
> also piss is the vegetable
Many problem going in the vorld.
LOL... omg is he calling all Arabic people Jews?
Apparently.
Let's say I need coordinates for a point from a path with multiple points based on a fraction. I found this stackoverflow.com/questions/33907276/… but it only covers the instance when the path only has two points. What do I do if my path contains > 2 points?
22:43
@MagnusBurton would the fraction represent the sections into which the ponint divides the path?
@KamilSolecki The fraction is the sum of distances between all points. So 50% would be half way through the entire path
hahhahah omfg
was scrolling through FB on that 3d printer group
and this gem pops up
user image
2
look at the background of the picture omg
fucking died cc @SterlingArcher
Getting 404
@MagnusBurton is it a Bézier curve by any chance or totally abstract path?
LOL he got pissed
@monners I was too I think it's imgur being stupid I refreshed a few times and it worked
22:47
@KamilSolecki Totally abstract path in this case.
As for abstract I dunno yet
I was thinking of dividing up the path into each individual linear path. Getting the fraction of that
and "adding them together" until I get to the fraction supplied. And then figure out the rest based on the link I sent above
Seems like a bunch of unnecessary steps however.
I really doubt there is an algorithm for that, rather s heuristic only
I was thinking the same
Take a look at de casteljau it basically does the same thong
It chops up the curve into little pieces
Will do, thanks!

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