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2:00 PM
@Loktar somewhere in future we might see google garments aswell , shirts pants etc with a custom search bar and web-integration
 
@Abhishek The problem with Google Garments is that they're plastered with ads. (Not that anyone minds, 90% of clothing is advertising anyway)
 
@Loktar 1500$ for google glasses? you're really gonna get it? :p
 
@SomeKittens oh and yes they will also have a custom search bar for women which will find them all the women wearing the same fashion in 30km radius ( googles step towards reducing female violance )
 
Remind me never to attempt to be funny in the PHP room
 
@FlorianMargaine I want to
Ill have to really think hard about it
 
2:09 PM
Nah, the next step is Google implant. Why think yourself when you can let the cloud think for you?
 
@OctavianDamiean oh that will cause many awesome thoughts bro
consider the part of internet that has the majority of explict content :3
when u think in cloud x) u might get ideas from that too (x
 
That's actually closer to reality than you may think
Singularity FTW
 
@SomeKittens oh please no singularity
i dont wanna think in cloud with my girlfriend esp about her food
 
haha
 
lol
 
2:11 PM
When people say "I hope the singularity doesn't happen, have you seen Terminator?" I want to punch them in the face.
 
you guys look into Yeoman at all?
 
@Loktar can u canvas btter ?
 
no :?
its another site builder or something
oh you mean what you did @Abhishek idk lol
css3 animations always run so smooth
photoshop plugin for making css3 animations
 
Using CSS to do animations is like using a hammer to repair glass
 
2:14 PM
@SomeKittens whaat?
css3 animations are great
 
I haven't seen a good one yet
 
link to examples?
 
There are just checkout the Mozilla showcase.
 
theres TONS
@Abhishek is an amazing css-er himself
 
2:15 PM
My css faces
@SomeKittens
see that
 
Yeah, but it's choppy
 
What browser are you using?
 
how ? brwser pls
@Loktar I still like my keyboard and imagination
 
Chrome. My Web Design professor showed us some, and they didn't impress me much.
 
and SVG/SMIL are more sleeker
 
2:19 PM
(He was using FF/Safari, if that means anything)
 
@SomeKittens CPU specs , of your PC
 
haha, duh
Pentium 4
I sit corrected
 
:-o that's why they are choppy
 
yep. I wanted a four-core machine with an SSD, but nooooo
IT gives me the "spare machine" and we all know what that means.
 
oh that reminds me
 
Guys which should i go for ?

a) Macbook Air vs Pro [ suggest any which you would ]
b) An Alienware 15"
c) Something Else ?

I want a lightweight machine which should allow me to develop for iOS , WP 8 , Android and Web .
 
Lenovo Thinkpad Series.
 
DON'T go with Alienware
 
Q-Series :-P
Honestly, I'd probably go with a MacBook Pro, if I were going to spend that kind of money.
 
$4500
thats my budget :3
 
2:28 PM
....wow
 
HOLYCRAPOMGGOWITHTHENEWMACBOOKPRO
... sorry, lost control there for a minute
 
uh, yeah, go for a mbp 15"
 
4500$ for a laptop?
 
mb air is too small
 
i already bitched about the 2000$ of roberts notebook for his gf, but 4500?
holy crap
 
2:31 PM
@GNi33 well thats the upper
 
You could buy one for me at that price
 
yeah, and another for me too
:D
 
lol
 
my "upper" for a laptop is 1300$ max
 
let me just check on how much an MBP will cost me in india // yo prices get hiked in here
 
2:32 PM
@GNi33 depends, may be 1500
 
/me currently using a $200 eBay special netbook with broken battery (charges to 70%) and the black hole of death (dead pixel circle ~1.5" wide)
both of which broke after I bought it
 
@FlorianMargaine yes, you're right, about 1200-1300€
 
For around 1500€ you get really good ones (non-apple of course) - at least if you are a student
 
don't know how much that would be in dollars now
 
(i.e. a thinkpad with full hd resolution)
 
2:32 PM
i'd rather spend money on a desktop system
 
I am using something that cost me $1000 - Dell inspirion 15R
 
well till then I was a student, so I needed a good laptop
 
@GNi33 Desktop isnt an option for me anymore
 
now I think I'm just gonna settle down with a tablet
 
i have to think of migrating to canada and i work during free lectures in college aswell
 
2:33 PM
easy to upgrade, so it doesn't get outdated that fast, and you get the same "power" for less money
oh, okay, but i don't think you'll need a 2000$ beast, but that's just me i guess
 
IMO a notebook is not really nice for development... real keyboards are almost always better
and so are two monitors
 
two bigass monitors and mechanical keyboard <3
 
exactly
 
@ThiefMaster agreed, but sometimes a full PC is too distracting
 
too bad i don't have enough space here for a second monitor, i really liked it at work last year
 
2:35 PM
@Esailija You recommend a mechanical keyboard? I'm still not sure it's worth the investment
 
the apple-like keyboards are just plain horrible
you can get a good mechanical one for ~30€
 
yes I do ;o
 
that cheap? Link?
(I usually buy the cheapest, and then get a really nice one when the cheap one breaks)
 
Oink macbooks came with SSD i thought
@ThiefMaster in india you can get keyboards for $4 // and i am not kidding
 
2:36 PM
@Abhishek ...mechanical ones?
 
Like the one he showed
my old desktop keyboard costed nearly 400RS = $8 about 4 years ago
 
I don't think you can compare european/us prices with indian prices
 
@ThiefMaster you sure that's mechanical?
 
depends what you mean with "mechanical keys"
the keys have a clear pressure point and it's not "silent"
 
@ThiefMaster yes ofcourse you cant :-(
 
2:39 PM
There are many different types of computer keyboards, usually differentiated by the switch technology employed in their operation. Alphanumeric keyboards have 80–110 durable switches incorporated into the system. The choice of switch technology affects key response (the positive feedback that a key has been pressed) and travel (the distance needed to push the key to enter a character reliably can be different on other keyboards). Newer models use hybrids of various technologies to achieve greater cost savings. Types Membrane keyboard There are two types of membrane-based keyboards, fla...
 
In India most hardware comes from People Republic of China
where manufacturing technology is ugh damn too easy
hell we get a dual sim cellphone in < $8 in market no warranty , no IMEI
but has dual sim , supports 256 color display , plays songs and yeah it also supports memory cards!
 
is it me, or this script can be really bad? gist.github.com/3011728
 
It does say "do. not. use."
 
yeah, I wrote that.
 
@SomeKittens Florian wrote it himself I guess?
 
2:42 PM
just had this idea that it can really screw up badly some people's analytics
 
... nvm found it
 
what's process doing?
 
on the apple store
 
xD the stock specs surprised me
 
@GNi33 getting the arguments passed in the command line
I just use it for process.argv
 
2:43 PM
ah, i see
 
@FlorianMargaine Oh, I missed the "can"
 
so node would be at [0] ?
 
not sure it's needed to require it tho
@GNi33 yeah
 
ok. i know i'm not crazy. how do i add the form.attribute in the ajax options? i'm looking everywhere for doc on that. dang it.
 
form.attribute? what do you mean?
 
2:46 PM
i want to add the "action" attribute
 
@GNi33 ok, I don't have to require it actually, it's directly available
 
url: "foo.php",
 
@MikeS where do you want to add it to?
 
data: {d: stuff}
 
@MikeS like:

$.ajax( {
    url: '',
    data: {
        action: $( '#form' ).prop( 'action' )
    }
} );
?
 
2:47 PM
ok. in the data. that's what i was looking for
thanks
 
or document.forms.formName.action
 
just had a "senior" moment for a minute. could not remember it. doh!
 
@GNi33 but yeah, you know, when you do some campaign and stuff using google analytics, the campaign is automatically created when any string in the utm_campaign is passed
@MikeS you meant "senile" ;)
 
i prefer "senior". ;)
 
@GNi33 so with this script, you can screw up people's analytics quite badly by filling their screen with a lot of bullshit :s
@MikeS senior doesn't meant senile :p
 
2:50 PM
hehe, yep. looks like a fun thing somehow ;)
 
metaphorically, it does. but that's for another discussion
 
Just passed that on to our SEO guy, hope he doesn't have a heart attack
 
hahaha
and still, this script doesn't do two requests simultaneously
it could be way worse with some while( 1 )
but with a while you just pass as a robot
 
even better, while("false")
 
this script shouldn't get you banned
@SomeKittens so, reaction of the SEO guy? :p
 
2:54 PM
while(~false) :P
 
rofl
that's sneaky
@Esailija fast rep coming /o/
 
Hi javascript people, I am trying to move a image (a black dot) across the screen with javascript , and here is the code hastebin.com/yikuwohecu.avrasm can someone tell me , as to why is it not working. (dot is the id of an image in that code)
 
@FlorianMargaine He's busy, I'll let you know
 
@FlorianMargaine :DD
 
3:01 PM
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Q: Web Based Board Game Suggestions

EH_warchHello people from game exchange! This is my first post in here so please be gentle :P Right now i'm developing a online web turn-based board game, and i'm not using any bigger library than jQuery or raphaelJS. No HTML5, nor Canvas, only tons of divs :P. In my application i develop rules in bot...

 
@SauravTomar is the image with a position relative?
 
doesn't the style just look ugly though when you have { continuing on the same line :P
 
Can anyone recommend a decent wired mouse, preferably with buttons on the side?
 
@FlorianMargaine I am using this , <img src="dot.png" alt="right dot" id="Dot" /> , is that called relative ?
 
All I seem to find are "gaming mice", which jump in price by a big factor.
 
3:06 PM
gaming mice are not so bad, even for non-gaming
 
i wouldn't want anything else than my mx518
 
I really only use 2-button + scroll-wheel mice
 
great mouse
 
I bought a Logitech G400 last year and wouldn't want to miss it. Having alt+tab functionality on the mouse is sometimes pretty nice (even though I mainly use it while slacking off so i can scratch my balls while switching windows :P)
remapped middle => doubleclick and thumb => middle - couldn't live without that.. used to it for over a decade now
 
3:08 PM
(actually, i had middle=>doubleclick in the windows 3.11 days when nothing used the real middle button anyway)
heh, nice
 
lol
 
@Esailija And a perfect opportunity to use my name
 
Would be just easier not to include useless boilerplate code though but still cool :D
I know rite?
You can just delete the code — Esailija 2 mins ago
 
Hi guys can someone tell me what is wrong in the following javascript code snippet , hastebin.com/yikuwohecu.avrasm just trying to assign coordinates to a image with id=Dot
 
3:17 PM
It contains a syntax error and won't do what you want anyway.
 
ohh what , where is that syntax error and why wont it do what i say ?
 
random(){...} is a syntax error, and actually screw the latter, I'm just stupid.
Forgot element.style is a proper object.
 
okay one thing at a time, ummm i cannot understand why is random() thing a syntax error .
Math.floor(Math.random()*100); will generate number between 0 and 99 , i verified that
 
window.onload = function() {
 
3:25 PM
window.onload = random(){ is definitely a syntax error
 
but i have seen window.onload = anyfunction(){ work perfectly fine here, in the following code, hastebin.com/naguyuxome.vhdl
 
@FlorianMargaine he liked it, and I quote "lolz"
 
function is a keyword. It, quite intuitively, declares a function
 
the example you just pasted shows you how to do it
 
It's not anyfunction() {}, it is most definitely function() {}. window.onload = function () {} creates an anonymous function, and assigns it to window.onload
 
3:33 PM
okay i tried it with, window.onload = function () {} and it still wont work
 
Do you get any syntax errors now?
And yea, if it's just window.onload = function () {}, it definitely won't work, since the function is empty :P
 
no i have no syntax error now, and LOL it wasnt empty
and var Dott = document.getElementById("Dot").style; and var Dott = document.getElementById("Dot"); i tried it both way , still the same
 
you have extra semicolons
right before the +"px" on both lines
 
I have tried it both ways Dott.left = Math.floor(Math.random()*100); + "px" ; and Dott.left = Math.floor(Math.random()*100) + "px" ; @user28871 :-(
 
oh, trololol, completely overlooked the css problem. Unless you define the position (i.e absolute, relative), trying to position it won't do a thing :P
 
3:39 PM
no position
(oh Zirak was quicker)
 
Is it possible to create a jQ function that doesn't get attached to an element? instead of $('#id').function() $.function()
 
have you ever use $.ajax ?
 
yea
 
@zirak, right on it,(creating a css now) and no dievar.. i never used ajax before
 
$.myFunction = function(arg) {
	// do stuff
};
 
3:41 PM
silently weeps at the murder of js knowledge by jquery less knowledge is indeed more stupidity...
 
// little known fact
$.fn === $.prototype
 
This mice might win: logitech.com/en-us/gaming/mice-keyboard-combos/… No side buttons, but it's nearly the cheapest one...
 
Thanks @RyanKinal, I didn't realize that.
 
@zirak: looks horrible
especially the lack of thumb buttons
 
I know. But there's nothing sane out there.
 
3:48 PM
Aw... I just looked around my desk for my coffee, and realized I had already finished it and tossed the cup :-(
 
This looks a bit better
 
Okay i added a stylesheet code hastebin.com/xucerapiwi.xml but i hate to say this but , it still wont work
 
@RyanKinal I hate that feeling. Mtn Dew time!
 
@SauravTomar You added the wrong style -_-
 
@Zirak I've got an older version of that, works great even after years of use.
 
3:48 PM
@SauravTomar position style. Like, position : absolute
 
@Zirak: Yes, that one is great. I used to have MX700 and MX900s before which were pretty much identical except the fact that they were wireless/bluetooth and used the crappy setpoint software
 
Or position : missionary, whichever tickles your fancy
3
 
rofl
 
@SomeKittens @ThiefMaster That's pretty good to know. Been looking for a mice for ages, and my demands are apparently archaic...corded and with side-buttons
 
3:51 PM
I have to admit, I like corded mice as well.
... but I don't care about side buttons
 
Wohooooooooooooooooooo that worked , thanks guys, you are awesome !! :-)
 
@Zirak yeah, most modern "gaming" mouse manufacturers think that the mouse needs to look like someone pulverized it and they glued the pieces back together.
 
It's mostly the weight. Batteries weigh a ton
 
(lol)
I mostly hate batteries
Replacing, recharging... friggin' annoying
 
And the hassle of turning it on/off
 
3:52 PM
i wonder what the logitech people smoked to mess up the 2x3 pad above the cursor keys and make one of the keys double-size and remove INS instead...
 
or even worse, auto off
 
@SauravTomar Enjoy, and yes, yes we are. flips hair back
 
as a vim user that's completely retarded
@SomeKittens: Always-on.
 
@ThiefMaster There is a version of this keyboard that does not ruin the 2x3 pad, I have it.
 
There is no other choice unless you remove the batteries
it was just an example - i think most logitech keyboards have the ruined pad nowadays
 
3:53 PM
@ThiefMaster they must be emacs users
 
damnit, I want a wired version of the good old logitech desktop elite
 
YES! I can't understand how people dare tinker with keyboard layouts. And actually, I fell in love with this keyboard: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/…
 
(the one with the scroll wheel on the left side)
 
Love it.
 
awe <3
 
3:54 PM
@SomeKittens How dareth thee insult the mighty Emacs!? We use these keys as well!
 
@Zirak I just use notepad for everything. It gives me so much freedom
 
My co-worker has an OLD IBM keyboard which surely is one of the noisier ever
 
@SomeKittens I walk around wearing nothing below the waist. It gives me so much freedom
 
Too bad that one isn't manufactured anymore for over 5 years now
(and it's bluetooth which kind of sucks since it doesn't work until windows is running)
 
3:57 PM
@ThiefMaster keyboard not detected, press f1 to continue
 
lol I made something for this but it got too long stackoverflow.com/questions/11247732/…
 
I have this beautiful piece of turd. Keyboard is downright aweful, quickly replaced it with the Dell one. Mouse is on its way out.
 

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