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3:03 PM
are we missing any element ?
 
GGG
@Abhishek these look good, what is this?
 
a UI-element set inspired by ms aero and apple iphone UI at the same time lol
 
GGG
did you make it?
and the slider too and stuff?
 
yes
 
GGG
this looks great, good job
 
3:14 PM
^_^ tankZ
but i think it will be wasted :( my g-designer thinks its b8r to make stuff look like
where aero wont just do :'(
so i launch it as open .. feel free to fork :D
 
GGG
lol what
yours looks way better =/
 
well she wants "me" to make it look like plastic
duh!
 
GGG
hey do you have IE on hand?
 
nope
 
GGG
doh
 
3:16 PM
using an OS that barely is 127 megs :D :D
 
hey guys
has any of you tried spoon.net/browsers ?
 
+1
 
@Abhishek: debian? :)
 
i was about to link that to him
@FlorianMargaine puppy
 
oh :)
tried it.... didn't like it :/
 
3:18 PM
lol
 
btw, I'm on ubuntu right now, and I can't get this fucking wireless card to work.
(on macbook pro 8,1)
 
i dont know why i like it but on this old device .. this works pretty damn fast
@FlorianMargaine i doubt it will have drivers for your card ..
 
GGG
@FlorianMargaine "Spoon.net only supports running applications on Windows right now. (Yes, we love Mac and Linux too and are working on it!)"
 
does it detects your card ?
 
GGG
:(
 
3:18 PM
@GGG: yeah, saw that oo
 
@GGG wait
 
@Abhishek: yes, the driver can install, the interface is not launching though :/
@GGG: get a virtual windows machine
 
GGG
what does it identify the card as?
nah this laptop is too old
it's like from 2003
 
GGG
:(
 
3:19 PM
@GGG check this out lol
basic functionality but works (troll(
 
GGG
what browsershots?
i'ts so slow... anyway it's just for this - stackoverflow.com/a/9540602/886931
i wonder how common it is for web developers not to have regular access to IE... i certainly don't have regular access to it
 
install windows
 
GGG
no
 
get a copy from the best retail shop for windows ... thepiratebay.org
 
lol
I have msdn for students ;)
 
GGG
3:22 PM
it would be a waste of my time to test everything in 10 different browsers anyway...
 
everything for free
and btw, have you already developped on the windows architecture?
 
get a windows 7 , 8 , xp[recommended] and install IE 8 - 10 on it . [its highly recommneded to test it on a virtual machine]
 
GGG
i test in one browser, our baseline browser, chrome
 
tfs, visual studio, etc
 
@FlorianMargaine i am looking forward to it
 
GGG
3:22 PM
if shit breaks we have guys who do grunt work stuff
 
once wrote an eye detector
 
I've done some C#/WPF/MVVM project on it with TFS
 
[a software that follows movment of ur eyes]
 
and also ms project server
 
and then controll mouse through it .. was kinda buggy as hell LOL
 
3:23 PM
that's nice
 
i cant wait to re-do it on javascript once the stream api comes :D
 
GGG
i dont understand how eye tracking even works
how do you know what direction they're looking?
 
stream api?
 
Well consider your eye as ellipsoid
and the black/blue/brown/green dot as a circle on it
 
GGG
ah ok i got u
 
3:24 PM
so what i did was reverse sphere mapping and some trigonometry
 
GGG
that makes sense
 
@FlorianMargaine looks like some eienstien is working in opera
 
ok
what does that do?
You could use native client in chrome right away though
IIRC, you're quite proficient in C++ :)
 
no proficient rather ... trial and error LOL
+ SFML helped a lot
 
3:27 PM
have you tried some app with this? code.google.com/p/nativeclient
 
FF
@FlorianMargaine get opera and see that link.
 
don't have opera yet
 
GGG
yeah i don't think anybody ever adopted NaCl besides google
 
@FlorianMargaine nopes
wont work in IE .. drop
 
GGG
opera is pretty decent now days
 
3:30 PM
@GGG but js engine slowness makes it suck :(
 
GGG
still kind of got that bloated "netscape suite" feel to it
yeah it's slow...
 
uh, it is?
 
GGG
i think FF is actually slower
 
I just don't really like the interface
rebooting
 
@GGG really ?
really ???
 
GGG
3:31 PM
pretty sure
at least as far as startup time and responsiveness for just doing normal crap
 
GGG
i don't mean that their js engine is faster, i mean the overall "UX"
 
lol
who the fuck has got the safari ?
its over 2x
 
GGG
if i run both opera and FF at the same time, opera will load first
 
then chrome and ffox (XD)
 
GGG
3:34 PM
i don't see why anyone would want to use safari when chrome exists =/
makes no sense to me
 
the UX is nice on mac
 
@GGG but u can see the speed there
lmao safari did overkill
 
Ell
hi guys
 
GGG
lol look at IE's speed
what a joke
 
well, in IE8, it doesn't matter whether it's .attr or .setAttribute :p
 
Ell
3:36 PM
opera is win I think :)
 
but I wouldn't use this jsperf as reference, since it depends on the pc's power :)
 
@FlorianMargaine i was the fool who tested it on IE
most of the benchmarks there are mine lol
 
this one is mine though :p
 
4 / firefox , 1 aurora , 1 opera , 1 ie8
Safari is your ??
 
the jsperf*
sorry :)
 
3:37 PM
i7????
 
GGG
one thing i notice is people either like opera, or don't really care
nobody seems to dislike it
 
nah the benchmarking lol i tested it on all teh browsers i have
 
yeah... it's like safari
they both run okay and don't have any weird bug
 
safari is a pretty decent browser
 
so either you like it or you don't dislike it..
 
3:38 PM
but chrashes
unexpectedly on windows
 
never used it that long
 
GGG
uhh
 
on mac it's really nice though
well integrated with lion's features
 
+1
 
GGG
why is it called "safari" anyway
 
3:38 PM
MY browsers of choice
Linux : Chromium , Win : firefox , Mac : safari
 
GGG
+1
 
I use chromium on all OSes.
 
I am loyal to firefox lol
 
mac/linux/windows
 
GGG
chromium starts up like 10 times faster than the other browsers
maybe even faster
 
3:39 PM
@GGG
here is how to make ffox do the same
"delete the prefetch for it "
 
it's not so much the speed, even if it counts, it's rather the chrome inspector I really like
 
"uninstall it"
 
I find it way nicer than firebug
 
reboot in safe mode in windows , then install firefox
 
GGG
fuck all that
 
3:40 PM
and kazing firefox then starts same speed as chrome lol
 
GGG
chrome inspector is better than firebug
 
chrome web inspector > firebug
that's it.
 
GGG
yes
 
editing css is just way easier
 
GGG
a=[]; a[0]=a; <--- that will break firebug
 
3:40 PM
I find firebug better
[seee i am a die hard fan of firefox ] lol
for some reason chrome runs slow on my pc
extremely slower then firefox [unlesss its 3d transitions]
 
GGG
on puppy?
 
idk why it does so but seems like it never uses hardware acceleration
Windows - Intel i5 , 8Gigs DDR 3 Ram , ATI - HD550v
 
about speed, firefox or chrome are just the same for me
I mean, that's not what makes the choice for me
 
GGG
chrome is way, way faster on mine
 
firefox gives about 60 fps with canvas
 
GGG
3:42 PM
like not even close
 
in the same benchmark where chrrome dies at 17 ,even opera scores 30s
 
btw, you guys know about this? bartaz.github.com/impress.js
 
nope
 
GGG
ehhh
it's choppy
 
hey @FlorianMargaine you just gave me an idea
 
GGG
3:43 PM
lol view source
there's a picture of yoda there
 
I wouldn't use impress.js
 
GGG
on that slideshow thing
 
but I've already used reveal.js and html5slides
they're both good
reveal.js is more "showoff"
 
i would use my own as per requirement solution lol
 
and html5slides is more "classical"
also, I haven't tried showoff, but it looks better than html5slides
 
3:45 PM
very embarrassing fact
 
@Abhishek: what idea did I give you? :p
 
but for slides and shit like that , i use rapheal.js
and u gave me an idea to write a raycaster/tracer using webworkers (XD)
 
totally out of no where
 
raphael.js looks good, but for slides it looks too slow to do everything from scratch :/
 
3:47 PM
write a High Level shit on it
have
you seen the presentation for it done by the author ?
 
raphael.js?
oh
and it's part of sencha labs -_-
I don't like them.
oh
they released raphaeljs under mit license at least
 
lol
i cant write my chatsite on it :(
 
I don't like the fact that they released ExtJS and sencha touch under GPL license
 
or i woulda choosen it
ask why ?
 
which makes it unusable except if you want to pay for it
 
3:50 PM
i hate rapheal for the fact it animates using
jquery instead of SMIL
 
@Abhishek got a link?
 
i am trying to find lol
@GGG help will be appreciated
 
i am trying to make a choice lol
 
GGG
ok, let's hear it :)
 
3:53 PM
You saw my Glass ?
or wait Glass UI ?
 
GGG
Yeah
 
and u saw the plastic skeleton
shall i hear to my gedisgner ? or me x(
i am soo confused
 
GGG
the think i saw from gd looked broken
 
raphaeljs.com/tiger.html @FlorianMargaine this is why somebody can like rapheal.js
 
GGG
i don't know if i was seeing what i was supposed to be seeing
 
3:54 PM
nvm i will listen to my heart lol
 
GGG
yours looked better to me but the designer's thing looked broken =/
 

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