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6:00 PM
Second, I fully agree with you. All those other things are amazing, and those are just the minuscule examples of how incredible the universe is
But, there is a vast distinction between the universe we live in, and the life we lead.
 
you mean life you lead :D
 
TL;DR -
someone said something about stats, someone said something about facts, we argued pointlessly for a while, Zirak talked about some weird shit again. Then Simon came in and was awesome - TimeToThine tried to take two minutes of fame but failed. Now we've switched to some other meaningless conversation.... something about life, the universe, and everything... 42
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You can stand in awe and explore the greatness of the universe and still be quite shitty.
 
@AmaanCheval done and done
 
6:01 PM
Hahahahaha
Added the extension?
 
How is life any good? We're a failure
Evolution hates us
We shouldn't exist
 
@Zirak Shitty is an invention of the human mind....
haha
 
... what criteria have we failed by
 
my life is great, from the observer life can be anything.
 
@Loktar How about biologically?
 
6:01 PM
if evolution hated us we wouldn't exist.
 
@rlemon I love you.
 
or wont...
 
@rlemon I love the timetothine thingy :D
 
@SimonSarris the feeling will always be mutual
:P
 
We're a biological failure. Most of our days are spent not reproducing or prolonging the existence of our offsprings. After a certain age, instead of dying, our female stop being important. They're a tap on the race.
 
6:03 PM
Civilization has aided that.
 
No it hasn't, it made it worse
 
@rlemon who doesn't love simon(s)
 
biologically speaking we start to degrade as soon as we're no longer of use to our offspring. (I remember reading an article on this, they made super flies by prolonging their reproductive cycles)
 
In any "normal" situation the weak and sick would die.
 
Umm.... reproduction is not really a good thing at this point... haha
 
6:04 PM
Yes, they should. But we made up morals so we let them survive.
 
Yes consider the case of Stephen hawking
 
@Zirak so homosexuality is against the nature?
 
But civilization has also made many more things possible. Allowing people to focus on things that will further us, instead of other things such as day to day survivial.
 
And there is a shit ton of reproducing going on... haha
 
Arent the morals we made up great? I can go outside and automatically assume that most of the people don't want to beat me up!
 
6:04 PM
bah, I'm not gonna argue our evolutionary pointlessness in a chat. I can't build up an argument coherently.
 
Cause they'll feel bad!
 
we've far surpassed evolution with modern medicine (speed) - moot point - but evolution doesn't hate us, we hate it. I think you've been mistaken somewhere along the lines.
 
@FlorianMargaine Where did you get that from?
 
@Zirak looks like for you, anything that transcends reproduction is not anything good to have
 
@rlemon I think that's culture in general.
 
6:06 PM
@SimonSarris you're wrong though.
 
For me? Hell no. For biology. If you're not prolonging the race you're dooming it a little bit.
 
@FlorianMargaine what do you mean?
 
@rlemon Which ironically is something that was evolved....
 
@SimonSarris people want to beat you up. Have you seen your face?!
 
Nature doesn't care if you shag another of your sex.
 
6:07 PM
@twiz Technology is an evolution in itself. Evolution of man, I should have specified.
 
@Zirak yeah.. you have to be touchy about it, but idc, in terms of why we are here, and biology homosexuality is counter productive.
 
But if you don't produce offspring, you're commiting biological suicide.
 
@Zirak In fact it is an evolutionary advantage in some species
 
@SimonSarris ... that was just a joke. ._.
 
@FlorianMargaine ._.
 
6:07 PM
@twiz really?
Im more of the thoughts of biological sucide.
 
@Loktar look up bonobo chimps... everyone fucks everyone
 
But fuck it, I'm not getting into the evolutionary discussion here, because people take it the wrong way and I don't have the will to explain it.
 
same sex frog mate (but they can also change gender and reproduce asexually, I don't know why I'm saying this other than it is interesting factoid. )
 
@twiz switching partners is totally different
 
@Loktar huh?
 
6:08 PM
Im speaking to strict homosexuality not bisexuality
 
Same sex australian swans raise more successful children than hetero australian swan couples, but they have to form a temp threesome to get an egg (then they kick the female out)
 
@SimonSarris interesting
 
The Black Swan (Cygnus atratus) is a large waterbird, a species of swan, which breeds mainly in the southeast and southwest regions of Australia. The species was hunted to extinction in New Zealand, but later reintroduced. Within Australia they are nomadic, with erratic migration patterns dependent upon climatic conditions. Black Swans are large birds with mostly black plumage and red bills. They are monogamous breeders that share incubation duties and cygnet rearing between the sexes. Described scientifically by English naturalist John Latham in 1790, the Black Swan was formerly place...
 
@Zirak people (like me) are just trolling you though
 
6:09 PM
25% gay swans!
 
ahh well..
idk I still consider that bisexual
since they form temp threesomes
 
The evolution of the human race is not dictated by biological reproduction any more. We're past that and we are evolving our own biology now faster than natural selection can handle. We're playing "gods" so to speak, but that not the point i'm making here. We need to understand that evolution does not just mean fucking and having a slightly altered DNA pool in our offspring - Evolution of man now encompasses the technical and intellectual growth (including compassion and reasoning) of society
 
thats a fair argument, I guess it depends on your definition of gay
 
@SimonSarris 6% divorce rate, LOL
 
@SimonSarris yeah definitely
 
6:10 PM
gay pairing, but hetereosexual for the sexual part, which is where it counts, as far as reproduction is concerned :P
 
@Loktar Oh, well in cultural species, such as humans, that could be a considered an "evolutionary" advantage simply due to overpopulation
 
I was just speaking to strict homosexuality vs strict heterosexuality
@twiz yeah thats what I was thinking
 
we're in a world where strict homosexuality can give children too
 
@twiz I don't think thats a fair use of evolutionary advantage. Genes do things for genes, they do not do them for the good of a family/group/state/species
 
@FlorianMargaine through technology sure
 
6:11 PM
...note to self: never raise biology discussions.
 
@Loktar yep... I see the swans thing as another technology way
 
@FlorianMargaine yeah but thats really really really new, newer than being, for instance, gay
 
eh not me.
Its like a gay man saying hes gay, but had sex with a women to have a baby. Thats how I think of the swans.
 
@SimonSarris That is why is put that in quotes. By that I meant "cultural evolution" in that it is beneficial for a group of people but not the entire species
 
@twiz ah fair enough
 
6:12 PM
does anyone have problems with gh-pages not being updated lately?
 
gh-pages?
 
@Zirak lol its an interesting conversation
 
TL;DR -
we started changing topics to evolution, life, and biology - someone said some shit about how if you don't procreate you're stupid or something. everyone got in a huff, both sides argued. I think I saw an umbilical cord being used as a lasso... Florian told a bad joke. Loktar got defensive. Simon knows some black gay swinger swans.
 
as long as people dont get all bent out of shape and put feelings aside.
 
@AmaanCheval your update sir.
 
6:13 PM
woah I didnt get defensive lol
 
@Loktar yeah... the "technology" part is human, it's just a basic form of technology to abide your needs
 
Im now defensive about getting defensive
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@SimonSarris github pages
 
lol not like OMG DEFENSIVE
i'm paraphrasing
 
lol
 
6:14 PM
and now the room is dead.
 
everyone shut up and go here: cat-bounce.com
 
Im surprised Eugenics never came up
 
it is the answer to life...
 
So how about them <insert next controversial subject here>
 
hey now its a lot to take in
Eugenics sounds really good on paper, I mean thats basically what we do with every single thing we eat, every dog we love, etc
 
6:16 PM
The Spartans did it too
 
The reason all of our apples taste good is because we bred and bred until we finally got these consistent trees
 
and they were quite successful
 
now these apple trees are all self-pollinating hermaphrodites, but who's counting! Their fruit tastes great.
 
yeah, thats just one of those instances where our morals come into play
 
@SimonSarris you're a barack or mitt guy?
 
6:16 PM
I love a man, and we are sexual. I don't know his name, but he looks exactly like me, and only appears when I am standing infront of my bathroom sink looking directly ahead.
 
@rlemon define "we are sexual"
 
Barack or Mitt guy lol
 
@FlorianMargaine I voted for Obama, but I didn't really like either candidate. They were both very blah blah middle class. Neither of them seemed to give a damn about the working poor.
 
^
I voted for Gary Johnson actually
eff Mitt and Obama
 
@SimonSarris Thats why I voted Johnson
 
6:18 PM
nobody likes mitt or obama, yet they were the ones who had almost all the votes ._.
 
granted that was a waste....
 
if I were american I would have totally been all over roseanne barr
 
@rlemon that's just stupid :D
 
@FlorianMargaine because our media runs the elections
 
@github hi, do you have gh-pages cache problems lately? I've been pushing changes for some days with no refreshing https://github.com/Ralt/ralt.github.com
 
6:18 PM
and most people don't care to look further
 
in the USA is it also possible to buy an election
 
@Loktar yeah totally -_-
 
cough
 
@rlemon s/l/r/
 
@rlemon most definitely.
My son asked how to be president.. I told him he needs to get rich first.
He didn't like that answer
 
6:19 PM
@FlorianMargaine only in certain states
 
said it was unfair
 
@Loktar LOL
 
smart son
 
Universal healthcare will make people quitting their jobs to start more start-ups easier, though its implementation is rather... rough. But what can you do.

The actual tax policies of both candidates aren't really *that* drastic, though the news outlets want to pretend that both are unprecedented.
 
@Loktar true, life is unfair
 
6:19 PM
@SimonSarris yeah I worry about things actually :?
 
> Life sucks and then you die.... pass the beer nuts.
 
there is a lot of talk of a second recession
 
I think there should be a law that any political party that is elected 2 terms in a row should not be allowed to run in the next election.
 
I think there is nvm candidate not party
 
bleh I dont think that would make a difference. Both parties are in bed with eachother
 
6:21 PM
how so...?
 
They're both in bed with corporate America
 
most politicians seem to be extremists for their party and oppose all by the other
@robjb truth
 
I think every citizen should be able to vote on every legislature and bill being passed and that should be how it is decided. If you don't care to vote on it, don't bitch when it passes / doesn't. then you truly have a "they didn't care" or "not enough of them cared" responsibility chain - optimistically this would be perfect. damn near impossible to implement
 
sorry was on the phone
what @robjb said
 
@twiz The Capitol is actually a giant mattress. True story.
 
6:22 PM
lol
 
@rlemon yeah but thats the reason we elect representatives..
they should represent the people who elect them
not the party affiliation
 
but when was the last time you agreed with every idea a single rep / party has
 
@rlemon I think that is an idea that will hopefully work one day. But it could only work if there was a truly secure internet.
 
if a repub wins, but his district is 99% for gay marriage, he should vote yes for gay marriage
 
I don't vote because I cannot vote for 30% of party A and 40% of party B and 30% of party F
 
6:23 PM
Meh, when was the last time you thought representatives voted for the people?
I was like, 12.
 
That's why you contact your senator. I did a lot of calling during the SOPA fiasco
 
@robjb local politics are usually much more reasonable
its very hard to please an entire nation
 
@SimonSarris Sounds like an argument for direct democracy at a federal level :P
/dream
 
@SimonSarris yea, I wish the federal government would piss off
 
@robjb nay thats even worse, then a large part of the nation you never see might enact something otherwise oppressive to your portion of the nation
 
6:24 PM
^
 
even within states, things that work well for upstate new york (very agrarian) do not work well for new york city and vice versa
 
heck that happens in states
yeah great example
 
well... I live in Canada - so If I have any complaints to my local MP I just hop on my dogsled and mush my way over to his igloo - we have a chat over some seal blubber and in the end we both apologize and settle our differences with a pickup game of pond hockey.
 
@SimonSarris Hmm... I don't see that happening
 
If people werent so batshit crazy we could still do that
up until the late 1800's you could get an apt with the president and talk to him directly.
 
6:26 PM
but NY has a driving age that is high because of NYC, but it needs to be 15 in upstate because people need to drive much more there, and driving is much more a part of the "work" (farm stuff) there
 
And representatives can just as easily do that for us
 
@SimonSarris Yea, but you can move to a new state fairly easily. Moving to a new country is kind of difficult and probably undesirable anyway.
 
moving is moving regardless
 
^ unless it's your big brother to the north.
 
(I use driving age because it is not politically divisive)
 
6:26 PM
and you shouldnt have to leave your home
"just move to the next state!"
 
@Loktar yeah, "lol just move" is not a really good argument for anything :/
 
Yea, but its just a matter of how much the laws piss you off
 
thats like telling someone in France to move to Germany.. they are as close as any state distance wise.
 
man me and ole loke really see eye to eye here
 
yeah
 
6:27 PM
MOVE TO NEW HAMPSHIRE :D
 
haha
heck no you guys get hurricanes!
 
apparently :(
but! there are no other bad things
 
and earthquakes!
 
I'm just saying, state power is better than federal government because at least people do have a choice if they want to leave
 
no horrible bugs or animals, no horrible plants
 
6:28 PM
true
healthy amount of snow though
 
You should go with Colorado. Or Washington.
 
which I love
 
:-D
 
I'm going to Colorado as soon as I can
 
@RyanKinal I wanted to go to Wash in the military
but I got Nebraska instead..
 
6:29 PM
@twiz I think thats agreeable in general, but a federal government to guarantee certain freedoms is a plus. Ie, if one state decided that slavery or pollution en masse was OK, well that would be bad
 
alas the beautiful Michigan land of wilderness, and great lakes is my home.
 
!
 
a model where the federal gov. guarantees things instead of restricts things would be very nice. A guarantee of basic levels of infrastructure and rights, etc
 
@SimonSarris Yea, obviously some things work well on a large scale, but those are the things than 99% of people would agree with.
 
@Loktar Where in Michigan?
 
6:30 PM
Im not there currently, but I've lived in a few parts
 
Ah ... Kalamazoo here.
 
Detroit, Mio, Ionia, and Owoso
 
I'm pretty close to Ionia
 
nice, Im looking to get back to MI next year, and move to Ann Arbor
@robjb yeah like an hour or so right?
maybe a bit further
 
Google says 1.5 hours
 
6:31 PM
yeah Ive driven through there a few times.. last time was when you guys had an oil spill.
 
hey
 
didn't seem to get a lot of media attention, was pretty crazy though
 
Ohh yea :( I remember that
 
am i allowed to post some code i wrote to see if it can be optimized (as a question)
 
And you're right, not much media coverage ... but plenty of word-of-mouth
 
6:32 PM
alright well its time for me to head home! Have a great weekend guys if I dont get on this weekend (I prob will)
 
@pmandell Use gist.github.com in chat
@Loktar Alright, ttyl!
@pmandell Oh, you mean as a question on SO? Then use codereview.stackexchange.com
 
@AmaanCheval You might be interested if you're planning on using Arch: gist.github.com/4047387
 
thanks!
 
@Zirak I don't think I will, actually
Maybe later
 
Do not that I've most likely just overlooked a pacman or makepkg option
 
6:33 PM
^ Move to Kitchener
we're awesome
 
ah, k
 
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@twiz yeah the way we treat criminals baffles me
I don't understand why so many nonviolent offenders see any jail time at all
 
@rlemon Reminds me of a bar called Skydeck here
 
6:36 PM
hehehe googled "Kitchener Waterloo" and went to images - this shows up for kwhomeinspectors.com (or something like that)
memevertisement
 
Heh
 
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I live in a giant 1840's house made of basically hope and old glass windows. I want a home inspection just to see what they say should be fixed first .____.
 
@rlemon Hah. Nice. My company educates home inspectors. I hope we do a good enough job that they'd catch that one ;-)
 
first home (and only home I ever owned) - new build - driveway sunk in the sping, defective carpets (fibers falling out like mad) - defective sump pump (caused foundation cracks) - they linoleum'd over a nail on its side (like, you could see the outline of a nail on it's side in the kitchen floor) and they ran centra vac tubes but didn't roughin for the canister.
all of this passed home inspection
I got most of it fixed by complaining. so no worries - :P
 
6:47 PM
No worries for you, sounds like you got awfully lucky ;)
@SimonSarris I like your blog
 
So, I'm liking these TL;DRs. I can go back and read the conversation if I'm interested :-)
 
In the first case, you are selecting the text node, which changes. In the second case, you are selecting the encompassing element, which is not changing.
For example, if you have a <div>0:12</div>
when the time updates, the 0:12 might be 0:11
so if you
 
@robjb I have a blog?
I mean thanks :D
 
had selected that text, what you selected is gone
but if you had selected the <div>
it hasnt changed to say, a span,
so its still there
 
6:56 PM
 
and can remain selected
 
@RyanKinal I will make sure to cap every rant / debate we have that I am privy to. ;)
 
@robert got it i think :)
 
TL;DR - not much to see here - we're for the most part talking about Javascript... ohh and rlemon tried to get everyone to move to his city.
 
6:59 PM
@rlemon do you know if RSnake hanged around in this chat in the past?
 
@goldenparrot you can search the transcript
 

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