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12:10 AM
There ya go @Yvette, I ran them all. Full place data for all elections so far: gist.github.com/ArtOfCode-/e3233fe5b72efc056b4393d01d7d9f2c
 
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12:31 AM
@ArtOfCode thanks :)
 
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@ArtOfCode I'm missing LOL
 
... and 2014 seems wrong?
 
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@BhargavRao 2013 is missing Ryan aka Minitech
 
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TheLostMind is missing from Nov 2015
 
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@ArtOfCode what did you do to get this data?
 
12:45 AM
Ran the ballot files through openSTV and put their output into a list
I may well have missed people, scanning text accurately is hard
 
user3956566
thanks
 
Rob
5:31 AM
@YvetteColomb Hey. What's up?
@Muthusamy I've rarely touched PHP, so I can't help, sorry.. However, this chat room is for discussing the election, not for asking questions. You might have luck in the php chatroom - But please read their rules first before posting
 
 
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8:39 AM
11 hours left :D
 
user3956566
8:54 AM
@Rob not a lot - a busy bee, How are you?
 
@Undo What's this?
 
It should be a live primary tracker, starting at 20:00 UTC
Kinda fun to watch.
 
Useful for those of us who don't see downvotes?
 
Perhaps. It gives a live view of who's winning, in five second increments.
With deltas and stuff
 
 
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4:39 PM
@Catija cough UserScripts are your friend ;D
 
4:59 PM
@chade_ I know, I know... I have a dozen of them already and I rarely need the votes.
 
@PeterHaddad dunno how many answers a day. Depends. Between 3 and 10 I guess. When I get the repcap I usually stop (that's my limit) so if some answer is lucky enough to garner 10 upvotes, the day is shorter :)
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre ohh okay, that's great
 
I was really more active question-wise when I started on the site (getting all low-hanging fruit and not filtering anything so I could answer c/c++/bash/perl/go/python/windows bat ... whatever I could. Now concentrating on python and c only.
(and I know most duplicates for those now, so I cannot afford to answer too many duplicate questions even without knowing)
 
 
1 hour later…
6:25 PM
tik tok...
 
1½ hours to go
 
wait: aargh not the same TZ...
it's 19h27 here.
(DST crap)
 
6:44 PM
@BhargavRao - Well, it may be late, but since you asked, and because it seems interesting, I will nominate. That said, this is a really good field of candidates and I think they will do very well going forward.
 
@TravisJ kinda late :/
 
@PeterHaddad - Indeed, only 8 days left :P
 
but goodluck anyway
 
7:14 PM
Better late than never @TravisJ, although I'm concerned that the hype train may leave the station without you :(
 
Meeh the election is long... not sure how many will vote 10000? I guess a few regulars will not make much difference
 
There were 30K votes in the last election.
 
@Makoto - Not really concerned :) If there are candidates with hype I am sure they deserve it
 
Ooh wow... and probably just a few hundred will read the meta.
 
@TravisJ good luck!
 
7:51 PM
My post has the best popcorn though ;)
 
@TravisJ Not enough... Cody's had more :), close all this crapzzz
 
lol
 
Cody was great, you flagged a NAA and he fixed whole Q/A set... but yeah that probably burned him out... not to enough fun. I hope he will return some day
 
2 mins to go
 
And then we get to see Undo's cool feature turn on
 
7:58 PM
Currently taking bets on whether PrimaryMonitor will work
 
Like, eventually, or right at the first second?
 
first second
I can make anything work eventually :P
 
"Ready to go!" it tells me
 
I, [2018-03-19T19:59:23.539950 #46965]  INFO -- : Primary hasn't started yet. 2018-03-19 19:59:23 UTC < '2018-3-19 20:00:00 UTC'
 
The console never lies. I got money on "work"
 
7:59 PM
@Undo you also gotta monitor nomination score, that's another interesting metric to watch (though useless)
 
... nomination score?
go time
\o/
 
@BhargavRao Interesting...yet useless. Describes most metrics.
 
VOTE!!!
 
Art takes an early lead
 
@Makoto ikr ;)
 
8:01 PM
@Undo - It didn't start on its own :( Had to refresh in order to see it work.
 
This was throughout the day (yesterday). i.stack.imgur.com/1lkry.png
 
@TravisJ oh, that doesn't count :P
 
lol
 
where's the graph view?
 
Oh, cool, so if you reset the cumulative change right before you leave the tab and do work, you can see what happened in the interim? @Undo
 
8:04 PM
Aye
 
Nice feature!
 
@Floern hidden because it makes the server unhappy
 
ok ;(
 
(seriously, though, you can always find the source and look at the routes file. It's not complicated)
 
Why doesn't Art have any dots?
 
8:05 PM
shrug blame Highcharts
 
^
 
Oh good luck @TravisJ I'll vote for you :)!
 
@Undo it's awesome, i could watch it all day
 
It's kinda dangerous that way
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum - Yay :D
 
8:11 PM
Hello
 
I 've been casting here for the moderator. But i don't how can i be the part of it?
 
did you compile the graph at the end last year? or is that updated in realtime and available?
 
It's available, if you look hard enough.
 
user3956566
good luck all!!
 
8:14 PM
what will we do with this election chat, can anybody explains me?
 
nothing
 
@Madhur Chat about the election with each other and the candidates?
 
It will get frozen and then deleted eventually. It will only be active for roughly two weeks.
 
frozen ≠ deleted eventually
 
In the mean time we are renaming it to the "Obsess over Undo's PrimaryMonitor Chat" though, officially unofficially
 
8:15 PM
okay that's great, i would be directly contact with you
 
@BhargavRao - Don't chat rooms get deleted eventually?
 
no only frozen
 
Frozen rooms stay frozen forever, at least that's what the manual said.
 
So a room which is red is just frozen and not deleted?
 
8:18 PM
hm, I thought they were deleted and seeing them was a 10k thing because of the styling
TIL
 
Room which has a grey background is frozen, which has a lighter shade of the color are deleted.
 
Rob won
 
heh, it not over yet
 
don't worry, there are 2 other places also
 
@PeterHaddad It's been 23 minutes, I guess we can call it
 
8:23 PM
yes :p
 
Historically, it's very hard to lose an election after this strong a primary start.
 
now that deserves a star
 
1 2 win, 3 loses
 
and third place in primaries has a very hard time of winning
 
From the trends, looks like @BaummitAugen's goin to be 3rd
(from the 25th minute trend, that is)
 
8:25 PM
Likely too early to call 3rd
 
The primaries seem like they can be very deceptive, though... Theoretically, you're looking at ~600 people's votes, since everyone can vote for everyone... right?
 
Yup, half the world isn't even awake.
 
First tends to weather the storm of India's votes, below 2nd isn't as solid.
 
Hmm, @Catija usually the top guy gets 15k+
 
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@Catija and there's downvotes
 
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8:27 PM
@Undo India is still sleeping yet
 
@Undo *Asia-Pacific to be precise, but as India's got the largest voter base amongst the countries there, so yes.
 
I think I was 3rd in the primaries :p
 
I can't see downvotes, so I don't know if there are any on Rob's... I'm basing my guess on the score Rob's showing on Undo's little tool.
 
@YvetteColomb Indeed. There'll be a knee in someone's curves.
Not very clear whose this time around.
 
Oh, no, I was second. The pattern holds.
 
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8:28 PM
@Catija 14
 
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I came 5th in the primaries last year and 3rd in the election
 
Just stopping by to wish the candidates good luck! :o) @YvetteColomb @BrettDeWoody @TravisJ @Floern and the rest!
 
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@agrm thanks
 
Thanks @agrm!
 
@agrm - Thanks :)
 
8:31 PM
@agrm also thanks :D
 
At this point I think the red line is eating me though.
 
and good luck to everyone else
 
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@Undo after the first 24 hours - does that pattern hold?
 
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@Floern ditto
 
It is interesting to me, though... no one is negative.
 
8:32 PM
You can't see it...but there are a handful who are @Catija
 
@Makoto If that's the case, there's something wrong with Undo's thing...
 
No apparently I lied
 
all have a positive score at the moment
 
Disregard me :o
 
This one used to show the splits stackapps.com/questions/4548/…
But it isn't working for me
 
8:33 PM
OK. Cool.
 
user3956566
I got close to double the downvotes of everybody else last election - I'd say same will be true this time
 
@Undo - Every time I load the monitor it asks me if I want to translate the page as a result of the user names. Is it possible for you to <meta name="google" value="notranslate">
 
@Catija The script has been fixed ^^^
 
I received a notification in my SO inbox saying there was a comment on the nomination. i thought there were no comments?
 
The comment would be there on the nomination tab
 
8:38 PM
@TravisJ last year 30000 people voted. It's just the start. But it seems that we're toast for the final run :)
 
@Jean​‑FrançoisFabre - Well, I guess that means less work and more beer for us :P
 
ahhh, got it @BhargavRao
 
@BhargavRao Sorry about that, missed the moment when the primaries went live.
 
@TravisJ work-wise, you're getting away with not answering the questionnaire :)
I'm not regretting anything ATM. It's a great experience to run.
 
@poke Nah, tis not a problem. Thanks for getting the fix ready in a jiffy :)
 
that was fast :)
 
I answered the questions when I posted the nomination
 
Also worth noting that the pattern of votes changes dramatically over night for us in the Americas
 
@TravisJ honestly, I don't think the majority of the voters give a damn about the questionnaire.
 
Me either. I think they vote 40/40 and then by rep, and then by user name, and then by avatar
 
8:42 PM
Typically if there is an Indian candidate, they will climb very quickly each day during the Indian 9 to 5
 
but there isn't any indian candidate I know of.
 
But it didn't help me to go from 2nd to 1st ;)
I was 2nd and remained 2nd
:D
 
@BhargavRao doesn't matter as long as you get elected.
My avatar is my photo. What's wrong with it ? :)
Maybe I could change it for a poney.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Ikr.
Draw a free hand circle around your photo, might help
 
:)
I could go with that. And a waffled background
 
8:45 PM
And with unicorns. Ponies are now soo 2014
 
unicorns it is.
 
Unicorns, FHCs and Waffles. The perfect recipe to get to 2nd.
(That's what helped me)
 
That's almost cheating. I'm not lowering myself to that.
 
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lol
 
Nah, you can put whatever you want there. Few candidates even brought the president there. ;p
 
8:49 PM
yeah, and got severly bashed.
The President? you mean Jeff Artwood or Trump? Wait: both.
 
exactly :D
 
There was also this "I was only suspended twice for voting fraud but now I improved" guy...
Looking at the live display, looks like some users just vote for almost all 10 first candidates. I may be wrong.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre: There was that guy. Was. That's the operative word there. Was.
 
Hiya! o/
 
what happened to those?
 
8:54 PM
\o baum
 
Their nomination went to a farm upstate
 
Probably withdrew after couple of comments.
 
I remember a thing where you could actually see if someone withdrew their nomination
I don't recall seeing that this time or if they had changed that part of the system.
 
@Makoto hey, the nice farm where Skippy went to when I was 8.
He sent a postcard the other day.
Baum you're killing the election. Withdraw now :)
Wait till my american friends wake up.
 
Rob dominating everything. XD
 
8:58 PM
Can you flag election downvotes?
 
You can't flag downvotes...
 
that was a joke.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre do you suspect some serial voting? :P
 
The NSA is on it.
 
Hmmm cereal voting....
 
8:59 PM
With milk?
 
*waffles
 
@Floern thanks. XD
 
this cereal joke again ? :)
 
@Catija Yeah, it's rather dry business without.
 
crunch crunch
wait, someone downvoted Rob. Wait 2 people upvoted Rob...
 
9:02 PM
@Catija looks at queue But...these people do it.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Hey, mods don't get much to joke about... serial/cereal is part of the job.
@Andy DECLINED
 
No...it's more mashes on DECLINED button You have to really make them feel that one.
 
At least posts you can write a custom reason... I occasionally decline comment flags and really wish I could explain why their flag was dumb.
 
Jon Clements got a very good sense of Brit humour.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Your poor American friends. They get to sleep during the normal work day. :P
 
9:06 PM
Tis Monday @Makoto, don't we all do that :p
 
Technially I'm a zombie right now
I wouldn't call this "sleep" but it is a code-induced trance I'm in right now
 
Samuel is about to pass Baum... Looks like a snail race from here :)
@Makoto sometimes you code better in that state.
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Yes...I've written 99% of the code I had to wrap up and 90% of the tests since I started my trance about six hours ago
Good times :D
 
SO killed my productivity. If I'm elected, I'll have to give up my job.
Well, looks that I'm keeping it...
 
Dear god no
 
9:15 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre You could go the other way and start a brand new job right as you are elected. That should really make life interesting
 
yeah. I like challenges. And my wife gives birth to (another) set of twins.
 
Yes. Having kids right when you get a mod hat is great...
 
And I start stamp-collecting.
 
Especially first kids.
 
You can let them moderate for you. Give them the mouse. Children don't lie.
 
9:17 PM
Have you seen my avatar?
 
It's never to early to teach mouse skills, @Catija
 
That could be some random kid from the internet :)
or just ... you.
 
As far as SE is concerned, I'm an 18 month-old-boy and a plush hippo.
@Andy He's starting with trackpad skills since we have laptops at home, no mice. :P
 
Shouldn't you be in bed then?
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre At 4 pm?
 
9:18 PM
I'll ping your mummy!
sorry, good ol' europe here.
 
:D
 
9:51 PM
A lot of really solid candidates this election
it will be tough picking just 3
 
hi all.
 
heya
 
Hello everybody. I wish best of luck to the candidates
I also wish 2018 will be the year that people will not be able to downvote without comment anymore :P
 
@ErayBalkanli that would make SO much worse
 
And it's definitely been debated before.
 
9:59 PM
They can be able, but if they don't comment when they do tells more about them then about us.
 
repeatedly... until you're blue in the face.
@TylerH Yep... I'm sure @Andy really wants to be able to delete a bunch of comments that read "I have to comment to downvote" or just "Okjndsgkjndsgoidg83n".
 
@An0n Sounds like you are misunderstanding the function of downvotes
@Catija yep, even more work for SOBotics...
 
Does it have a function ?
 
@Catija I've always used a trackpad. Hate external mouses.
 
@An0n yes, downvotes are not spite actions, they are signals
 
10:01 PM
Absolutely... downvotes are how we tell users that an answer is incorrect.
 
downvotes tell viewers that an answer is not correct or is not a good way to do things
 
Talking about questions that get downvoted.
 
downvotes on questions indicate a low quality question or a question where no research was done
e.g. 'effort lacking'
 
So even worse when downvoting a question without a comment. ;)
 
Unless you are a user with 10,000+ reputation who gets serially downvoted all the time, people are probably downvoting your questions for a reason. While an explanatory comment would help there, there's also the existing tooltip when you hover over the icons that tell you more or less what they are for
 
10:03 PM
Can we not discuss comments on downvotes again? Feel encouraged instead to search Meta Stack Overflow for copious amounts of literature and information on this, why it was shot down, and why it isn't likely going to ever change.
This is about the moderator election.
 
Ancillary discussion is fine Makoto
Also I've probably mentioned it before but it's worth repeating for you again: Outlaw Star is one of my favorite shows
 
we should vote for trump
 
@Makoto Who is discussing ? ;)
 
10:32 PM
Apparently, no one, any more.
 
10:42 PM
make StackOverflow great again
 
Make Steak Overflow medium rare again.
 
I rather like it RAW ;)
 
Jon Skeet should be moderator
 
@carkod He has to want to do it. I don't think he does.
 
Considering that many people who take up the mantle sort of stop answering questions... I'm not sure you really want him to have the job.
 
10:58 PM
@Catija Though to be fair it's not like there aren't plenty of other high quality C# and similar answerers on the site now
 
I wouldn't know.
The ping noise on SO is so polite.
 
11:21 PM
Though, my heart still belongs to the MSE noise.
 
11:33 PM
Not sure if this is the right room, but what is the meaning of tp and fp in context of NATO reviews?
 
Probably a question for the SOBotics room?
In general, "positive" means that it tripped the filter. "True" means that it was correctly tripped; "false" means that it was incorrectly tripped.
 
Ah, so it means true positive or false positive then? Makes sense. Thanks!
 
Depends on what you mean by "NATO review". The feedback for the bot Natty or are we talking late answers queue?
 
Honestly I did not even know about NATO reviews, I came across it while looking at the profiles of the moderator candidates. (e.g. chat.stackoverflow.com/…)
 
Ah, that's for the bot Natty from SOBotics.
The feedbacks are true positive, false positive and needs edit.
 
11:39 PM
Where can I learn more about the various bots that are running behind the curtain?
 
In the most general sense, on stackapps.com
 

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