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12:02 PM
damm errors
 
@Roland_dfa That's like @Luca trying to fix CDM
 
dont know what he changed
 
Hey guys, does anyone know a nice couples name for Jaap and Bram?
I just can't come up with anything decent
 
everything where a confgi list is needed, is broken
 
@Roland_dfa I have been doing some DB shit, so some things indeed don't work
 
12:08 PM
database change?
 
Yes
 
cant wait to see...
 
Had to make 3 new tables and change the name of Device_Pricelist to Device_Parts
but espacialy the changing name part sucks
And I have also been at home with a migraine for almost 2 days
so not much done since tuesday
 
why rename a table...
 
Peter wanted me to rename it, because Device_Pricelist was not logical to him
Kinda agree that Device_Parts is more logical
 
12:11 PM
yeah thats why it now is the 10th database version
 
yes.. Ranged lvl 89
Yeah. I semi AFK runescape while working.
 
because of silly namechanges
 
@Roland_dfa haha, true
 
downside is it effects the live server..
so nothing can be used atm
 
Thing that sucks is, everywhere where it is calling for Device_Pricelist, it crashes. But if I change it to Device_Parts, it gives me an error. God I love Databases
 
12:13 PM
which error
 
Well basicaly it can not find the name Device_Parts
It does find the name Device_Pricelist, but then afterwards it crashes because Device_Pricelist is not an existing table
 
This room's gotten so busy. Busier now than WPF chat
 
the finding and not finding of the names is when I try to edit it in the code btw, the not finding of the table is when running the project
 
@Roland_dfa managed the IIS?
 
no cant connect
 
12:15 PM
@Alex everytime I look in the WPF chat, it has been like 20 hrs since anyone sayd anyting
 
@Luca peter is not a specialist in dev stuff
 
Yup, WPF chat's been very quiet
But I like how this room's gotten more traffic
 
@Roland_dfa true, but tbh, sometimes he understands more of the logic you used than I do (nothing personal, I just have some different ways of doing some things)
 
We need to set up a table by the door to offer folks a cup of coffee and some donuts ;)
 
I would like that Alex
 
12:18 PM
I am back after my exams
 
Most of the people in this room live in the Netherlands anyways, so distance wise it would be almost possible
@Roland_dfa can't wait for it
 
haha
 
if you pass, Jaap wil get you some Kebab
 
Virtual cup of coffee
By the virtual door
 
:( I got so exited for the donuts
 
12:20 PM
I'd prefer cupcakes!
 
As long as it is food, I'm happy
Unless you try to give me some of them salads, then I will throw you out of the virtual door XD
 
Hehehe!
We'd need a virtual bouncer at the door... throw troublemakers out!
 
Than I can never join again
 
Nah, we're inclusive :)
 
TIL eating a pizza upside down makes it taste better
 
12:27 PM
Only php developers cant enter
 
lol
rip jaap
 
Well, we'd let recovering PHP devs in... those who want to learn C#/ASP.NET/MVC
 
@Falcon which pc name do I use to connect to vps?
 
If you're interested, here's my experience on eating a pizza upside down twitter.com/rudi_visser/status/997454611370913793
 
@Roland_dfa the ip
 
12:33 PM
hmm tried it before
 
Yeah but did you review the experience
Did you open the firewall port Ronald @Ro
 
@Alex what about them HTML programmers
 
hmm internal server error
 
Yay, progress!
 
on ip adress, domain not connected yet
 
12:39 PM
[ip]/[adminacc] to connect
 
explain
 
@Alex I applied as PHP developer at 2 company's , It will probably take a while before I have time to start improving my ASP.NET
 
Start today @J.Ende!
 
@J.Ende asp.net is the best
 
core is better right @RudiVisser
 
12:45 PM
If I can get a job as php developer why not take it :P I can always continue learning asp.net
 
@Roland_dfa YES
@J.Ende You can but you can also learn it now
 
haha
 
@J.Ende I've done PHP and it's okay. Good programming is good programming, regardless of language
So keep at it and don't feel like you're less of a dev
We tease about it
Main thing is earning a living
Ain't fun being jobless... been there, done that
 
Ofcourse, I don't think I will ever find a job in ASP.NET/C# since I'm pretty noob in that hahah
But I want to keep learning
 
1:03 PM
When did you start learning @J.Ende?
 
hmm 403 - Forbidden: Access is denied.
 
@J.Ende You will find work in it. And it's actually pretty straightforward stuff to learn
Lots of tutorials out there. And Visual Studio is free to download/use
 
@Roland_dfa and? solved it all?
 
not yet
trying to figure things out
also have to defend myself against an attacking kitten
 
Hah! Love cats
 
1:13 PM
@Roland_dfa just get a rottweiler, and its done
 
7 weeks old and already cant do without me :/
 
Awww
 
Send a photo
 
^ that
 
1:17 PM
cute lil demon
 
I think my heart just exploded from the kitten's cuteness
Someone call 911!
The little baby
 
haha
 
1:38 PM
grr cant connect ftp with vs
 
No need for ftp
What are you doing with FTP?
 
easy publish
to server
 
Did you install an FTP Server?
 
^
 
cos if not you're basically driving your car into the sidewall of your house asking "why isn't my garage working"
 
1:44 PM
i did
 
Did you open the firewall port?
 
it is on, but where to open
 
Windows Firewall
 
So great. after installing the application at the customers server. hundreds of errors
Such a good day
 
burn it
 
1:48 PM
lol
 
@Alex Ye true :P I want to work/study but hard to find some work when i can work 3 days a week, but It will probably be 4 days work and than sacrifice some time from my weekends hahha
 
'Input string was not in a correct format.' while I literally do document.GetElementById('sometextbox').value; lol
 
@J.Ende You need to find a hobby project to build
 
@J.Ende has a very busy life
 
@RudiVisser J.Ende does not code in his free time
 
1:57 PM
omg
 
Ronald is the only one here that does that
 
Ah, so he's gonna be the rich one out of you guys
Sweet
 
@RudiVisser What would be a good and fun project to learn a lot?
 
am free atm, and trying to publish a website
 
@J.Ende "Hello world" is a though thing to make
 
1:59 PM
Wait you're still doing that? Why you messing around with FTP and shiz
Get the site working first
 
have a base working
 
@J.Ende Do you have a personal website? Building a blog system is easy enough and you keep adding functionality to learn more etc
 
@Luca has a blog
 
That is not true, it is a Portfolio site
And I am still working on it
 
@RudiVisser No I dont have haha
 
2:01 PM
@RudiVisser do you have one?
 
@J.Ende It is a fun project to make, because you do not have someone telling you what to do and you have a lot of creative freedom
 
I used to
 
But not anymore?
 
www.ishetaltijdvoorbier.nl
Hell yeah it is!
 
haha
10 minutes and I am FREE again
Wait I just remembered I have work tomorow at 6am :(
 
2:08 PM
poor you
 
haha
harvesting tomatoes for 9 hrs
 
have militracks this weekend
 
No freedom for me
At least till 01:30
 
We have the cutest little bottles of Peroni in the office today
Little 250ml bottles
 
Input string was not in a correct format. Even when I manipulate the parameters within the url myself.
Now that's dark magic.
signin?login=test&password=test how are those not strings lol
 
2:19 PM
Input string tends to mean it's parsing to another type
 
Fixed it. very weird bug in SQL management
 
@RudiVisser I can try make a webshop , maybe thats fun project. or to hard for a starter
 
You can do it - but are you going to sell something? Building something without use/purpose means you'll lose interest
With a personal site you can do anything you want with it
 
Friend asked me if I could do that, probably I could do that in PHP but could always try it in ASP.NET
 
👍
Even better then if you can get immediate feedback on what you're building
If you wanted to make it open source I'm sure everyone in the room would be happy to take a look at what you're doing and help out where poss
 
2:29 PM
Yea probably can do that, always fine if there is people to guide you right :P
 
http://localhost:81/ApplicationName/[controllername]/[index]
Is it possible to do something like this with JS: window.location.host to get the root? So incl. the ApplicationName?
ugh how do we post an entire url on this chat.
 
Surround it in `s
 
No not rly :D
Then we just do this :D
 
Surround just the URL and you're fine
anyway window.location.href will give you the path to the file (which wil include /ApplicationName/) but generally speaking folders are irrelevant
 
Okay
So I will have to change the IIS structure
otherwise my shitty project is messed up.
Got 1 website with multiple applications.
so it will always make localhost:[port]/[applicationname]/[controller]
they use plenty AJAX methods with a hardcoded 'appPath'
var appPath = "http://" + window.location.host
I am not in the mood to change all those variables
 
2:42 PM
Don't have multiple applications under 1 site? :D
Or just use relative URLs
ie. redirect to 'controller/action' rather than '/controller/action' on an appPath
 
I generally use relative urls
 
how do I get a website running?
have everything set up, but get an 403 error
 
Have you installed .NET
I'm kidding, partially
It could be anything
I could take a look if you like - just email credz to rudi-at-cedita-dot-com
 
3:12 PM
this should help
 
You must already have done that to have IIS installed?
Under Role Services though, there's Application Development > ASP.NET, make sure that's checked
 
3:57 PM
Am from Python(backend) & TypeScript/JS frontend back ground. After TypeScript is available in the market, are .NET developers still using ASP.NET for writing front end code? What is the current trend of .NET developers in writing front end code?
 
4:23 PM
@overexchange ASP.NET is a backend framework
Most .NET Developers tend to write good code, so the "frontend" portion is fairly minimal. But when needed, it'll be basic JS / TypeScript
 
@RudiVisser website online
 
Good job ronald
 
only its on the ip adress
not yet the domain
 
Yaaaaaay
 
and how do I add a database to it?
 
4:34 PM
Install SQL Server
 
on the vps?
 
Yes
 
and how?
 
Download the installer?
Same way you installed it on your dev machine
 
via browser
 
4:47 PM
Yes
Or install LocalDB, it's just a test project anyway
 
have to change security settings
 
Yeah that's a pain in the ass
 
is installing
 
5:03 PM
done
 
👍
 
:O Can we see your website now
 
 
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6:19 PM
Does anybody know how or why ninject fails silently with webapi and missing bindings?
It causes a 500 response and skips the normal exception filters and even Application_Error. I found a blog talking about it and linking a nuget package to intercept the failure but it seems like there should be a native way to deal with this.
 
7:00 PM
@RudiVisser Cant instal ssms
 
Roland, is SSMS giving you errors?
 
yeah
 
Please paste the error here
 
7:16 PM
0x80070643
 
same error
 
7:41 PM
You'll need to dig through google and try different things at this point
 
8:19 PM
Good evening
@Roland_dfa solved it?
 
8:42 PM
Will try again tomorrow, have to get up early...
 
Ahh
Site live tho?
 
Yeah on ip adress
 
Show us?
 
No database connected btw
Not yet
 
Nice design
;p
 
8:46 PM
Needs some work 😜
 
Why not make it with Core
seems like you just started the project
 
True
At least I got something online
Now it doesn't matter whether it is core or asp.net
 
Fair enough
 
9:31 PM
Thats just basic bootstrap design hahaha
 
I know
 
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