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02:09
@nil you around?
02:39
morning
Evening.
I'll find out what country you're in, save money to fly over there during the Summer. Find your address, and kill you if we go down that road.
Jesus, are you that opposed to the idea of time zones?
I'm just tired.
I did start it I guess.
I'm going to call it soon. .
02:44
Poor Owatch.
Let me give you a virtual tap.
I mean virtual pat.
pat
I just sit here all day, doing math problems. .
Not even a lot, because they're hard. More like trying over and over to get a few right.
It's day #3
Damn, son.
I don't even do much during the day, but I'm so tired.
02:49
What kind of maths problems are you tackling?
Integrals.
By parts, Trig substitution, by partial fractions.
Sounds fun.
If you're really tired all the time, try exercise and eating more protein and veggies.
Also getting enough sleep.
There's more than that. There are direction fields, and parametic equations
If you're still tired after doing all that, maybe get yourself checked. It might be a sign of something.
user457812
I got a PS4. Max will be so unhappy that his console of choice is still the loser.
02:50
I'm kind of nasty too.
I notice I've been rude lately.
My dad was diagnosed with diabetes 30 years ago and one of the symptoms was getting tired and sleepy all the time.
Well, I eat fine (good stuff), so IDK.
Maybe not today.
nil: Nice, I probably will get one too soon in 2016. Either that or a Wii U.
Little things piss me off. For example, my grandmother kind of says the same little phrases a lot. And it's really annoying me this weekend.
Hmm, I don't know what causes that, but I also know some people who's annoyed by things like that.
02:55
She always has to have a conversation it seems, when we're eating, for example.
So she will keep muttering "but...", or "we shall see", or "well...", every other moment.
It's not like I'm silent the whole time either, I'll talk for a bit. Just not constantly. And it's this that has gotten me angry lately. I'm sure I'll be fine this week once my exams are done. .
Yeah, someone I know does that too.
I'm not sure what caused it.
Someone I know, is always angry at me at asking the same question.
Sometimes I just said "Did you... the stuff?" and without realising I asked them the same question 3x in a day, and they just got so angry.
:/
I'm going to bed.
Goodnight.
Okay
Goodnight.
user457812
03:12
I say the same thing to people sometimes, but it's usually because they keep screwing up their clone of a git repo.
user457812
My life would be so much easier if they would just god damn learn the tool.
How did last week video sessions worked out?
user457812
So far as I know, most people didn't watch them.
user457812
Two people watched at least one of them.
user457812
Most of my attempts to get everyone to actually know how to use their tools have been pointless since only one or two people care.
user457812
03:21
Everyone else is in the "why won't it work like subversion" camp.
LOL
I imagine it'd be very funny if Max comes and work with you in the same company.
user457812
I don't think he'd make it very far, but he's a carbon copy of one person here.
Well, the thing is, no hiring process is perfect.
It's hard to say whether someone's good or not just with 4-8 hours of interview or code tests.
You'd really need to spend a week or two at least, to see if they're good.
user457812
That's part of why they occasionally have me interview them.
Yeah, me too. But I also wouldn't be able to really tell in just a few hours of interview.
I mean, people can bullshit their way through. Read 5 books on Haskell, Java, Python, etc.
There are people who are book smart, but not code smart.
Also there are people who can write beautiful 50 lines of code during interview, but when they need to write 5,000 code for the next project it becomes spaghetti monster.
Speaking of spaghetti, I now suddenly have a craving of spaghetti.
user457812
03:36
That's why I sort of try to get them to dig up what they know about data structures and algorithms.
user457812
If you can apply them to a problem, then you're capable of thinking
user457812
Granted nobody's gotten the right answer to anything I asked, but that's pretty normal.
I agree with you, I also know my shit around data structures and algorithms. I know almost all of the trees and graphs traversals and search algorithms.
But I'm saying, that still isn't a 100% indicator of someone's productivity output.
user457812
I don't, but I know the ones they'll bring out.
user457812
And a few they won't.
03:40
That's true.
I've met a few people who know everything with data structures and algorithms, but when they brought into larger and messier projects, they just can't apply all the theories to those projects.
user457812
I don't have a CS background, so I'm just limited for no reason other than that studying on my own time is limiting.
Hmm, but not everyone's like you.
Not everyone studies in their own time, and some people just had their education at universities.
I think hiring in tech is still so absurdly broken.
We used to use university degrees, GPA, published works, past references as an indicator. But we really can't anymore.
I think the more intangible skills you have, the harder it is to measure them.
e.g. You don't measure the "arts skills" of Leonardo Da Vinci or Michelangelo.
You also don't measure the "programming skills" of nil vs Enrico. Can't box them like nil is has 10/10 for Node and 10/10 Git, Enrico only has 3/10 for Node.
What?
user457812
The annoying part is that I have to keep my ego in check.
And how do you even "box" a skill? The biggest mistake is thinking "Oh this guy has 10 years of experience in C# so he's not suited for this Obj-C job". That is a freaking big bullshit.
03:47
What is the cause of this conversation?
Hi borrrden.
hello
I'm telling nil that it's not impossible for someone like Max or someone else to get through to nil's hiring process and becomes his colleague.
nil has a hiring process?
user457812
Not impossible, just unlikely.
03:49
Yep, pretty unlikely, but yeah it's possible.
user457812
My company has a hiring process, I'm a filter.
Wow!
Yeah there are two bad paths for people to go in
user457812
Caveat: I'm only a filter when involved in the interview process for a person.
user457812
Usually I just review resumes and code samples right now.
1) Not enough classical education
2) Not enough self education
user457812
03:50
I'm in camp #1 as far as CS education goes.
Although it is possible for both to come from self education
The reason that it usually doesn't is because people think it is boring
Well, the kinds of people who don't do it anyway
Which is unfortunate
Truth: Software engineering in general is not a skill that needs a deep education background.
Depends on the project
user457812
Programming isn't, at least. The engineering part requires a brain.
Compared to Astronauts, Doctors, Physicist, etc, I think my job is something that can be learnt in 1/4 of time someone learns how to be Astronauts.
03:54
The difference is that you cannot perform those things with half the knowledge
There is no "hello, world" project for doctors haha
haha, that's true.
Hello guys
Hi max did you get the WWDC ticket again this year?
Yes
but this year i won a scholarship
03:57
Wow nice
Yup, very excited
Still waiting for my  watch too
Enrico thinks its all fine because its not the 27th yet... but I've been reading the US is getting the least shipments currently, at least for the model/color I got
the black 42mm sport
Just a correction: I just think you're a big crybaby.
Be quiet, you got your watch early
if it were the 26th and you didn't have a charge you would be like WTF
Also, when you buy a ticket to a baseball game you have your spot. when you buy a concert ticket, you have your spot. when you buy a movie ticket in some theaters you have a spot, but when you buy an  product, your spot don't matter? Lame
I can buy another model and probably have it next week
they know the black is the popular one, put the others on hold make black until they are all shipped
user457812
Just a correction: I have Yeti imperial stout and ice cream, everyone is wrong by default if they disagree with me.
user457812
Oh, and I have Bloodborne, so I also have the best game for the new consoles.
04:08
Nil did you get a watch
user457812
No, I don't want one.
user457812
Also, if you like Dark Souls, do not play Bloodborne like Dark Souls.
user457812
Dark Souls is a lot about being defensive and cautious. Bloodborne is about being really agressive.
user457812
And the combat mechanics are ridiculously fun.
04:10
Enrico will share his watch with you
user457812
My coworker has one, they're cool, but I don't want one.
people are making the most useless apps
nobody makes anything to really use
BREAKING: Max complains again! News at 11.
I'm on the news!?
user457812
Given the physical size and placement (you only have one hand to use it with), there's not a whole lot you can do.
04:13
BREAKING: Enrico can't see what is wrong because he got his watch already News at 10
BREAKING: Enrico sends smiley face from his watch even though he is not smiling! News at 5
user457812
user457812
You are wrong by virtue of the above.
@nayoso will you be at WWDC
04:44
Nope
I'm not doing iOS dev anymore recently
 
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05:47
WAKE UP FROM YOUR NAPS!!!
@nil Bloodborne beat me down into a ridiculous swearing mess
user457812
So far I'm just having fun.
But I eventually got the hang of it
It's still hard as shit though
Damn you PS4 owners, I want one too.
user457812
How far have you gotten in it so far?
05:55
I have defeated the first two bosses
user457812
There's a fun thing you can do: if you get 40 insight really early, stuff happens.
And gotten to a barren area
user457812
Can't say what, but it basically triggers the effect of beating a much later boss.
Past a door with a warning note
user457812
Old Yharnam
05:56
Hmmm I only have 14 insight right now
Yeah, I don't know the names lol all the text is in Japanese
But that seems about the right name
user457812
Ah. If you have 10 or more, the stump messengers appear.
user457812
Behind the house in the dream.
I will look for them :D
user457812
The stump messengers let you dress up the messengers
user457812
They're kind of useless but it's fun.
user457812
05:57
But yeah, 40 insight == you see why Yharnam's so screwed up.
Sounds interesting
user457812
Insight's neat just because of the effects it has on stuff around you.
I dislike getting far from a save point and then dying and losing all my points though
user457812
Either way, you'll eventually see what it is if you beat a later boss (I know about this 'cause I saw a friend do it), and it's pretty cool.
So I don't progress much because every time I get a few thousand I run back to the dream land
user457812
05:58
My main problem is less the dying and being away from a save point and not knowing how the hell to get back.
user457812
At least in Central Yharnam, I'm basically lost.
Hmmm yes that is a problem at first
But once you open a few shortcuts it is easier, at least for me
user457812
I've gotten slightly better, but I'm still pretty useless.
user457812
I at least managed to beat the first boss
Which one did you go to first?
Because there is one that it seems you can skip with no problem
user457812
06:00
Gascoigne
Ah, I beat him second
user457812
i.e., the one that leads you to where you went
But it took me several dozen attempts
user457812
There's another one across a bridge that I know about but I'm bad at fighting the werewolf things
user457812
So they just ruin me.
06:00
If they are too annnoying I'll just run past them
They don't do a very good job at stopping you haha
user457812
That's what I started to do for Gascoigne, but then I brought in a coop person to try that out.
user457812
Having the boss distracted enough to keep me alive helped a lot.
I dislike doing co-op
Mostly because I feel bad that the other person has to have me as a partner
user457812
I like it, though I can't be the co-op partner until I get some other bell, which is a bummer.
I should try it out I guess
user457812
06:02
Also, on the topic of feeling bad, it took me a few minutes to figure out how to turn on the PS4.
lolz
You are not the only one
user457812
Non-obvious touch-sensitive power buttons aren't really my thing.
user457812
On the upside, it fits behind my iMac, unlike the PS3.
I can never remember which one is power and which one is eject
user457812
I only have one game, so hopefully I don't need to figure that out any time soon
user457812
06:04
I'll probably just end up using the Remove Disc thing from the options menu
I use it to play blu-ray discs as well
user457812
06:26
I don't think I have any of those other than Time of Eve
I rent them sometimes
user457812
Rentals don't exist where I am. :|
Because Japan has historically been shit when it comes to streaming
It still pretty much is
user457812
I suspect Japan being kind of dense and packed, it makes rentals and physical copies of things that much easier to work with
Sure, but the reason it's shit is because of draconian laws about licensing, etc
user457812
06:29
The US is just enormous. I c— just realized there are very large pillars erected around the hunter's dream.
user457812
I wonder if I'm on a pillar.
user457812
Can't get over how nice the PS4 controller is compared to the PS3's.
07:06
@nil Have you seen Nichijou? youtube.com/watch?v=z30Y572EmCk
user457812
Yes. I told you about it multiple times.
07:21
That clip is freaking hilarious.
user457812
Nichijou is basically a giant collection of great scenes.
Damn, I should watch this anime.
user457812
07:54
Ok, beat the Cleric Beast. Much easier than Gascoigne.
Morning
Selamat Pagi
now you learned one phrase out of a youtube video
congrats
the enlightenment of the universe os yours
Ahem, I'm Indonesian.
Of course I know that phrase even before I watch the video lol.
jó reggelt!
07:58
I love how your Dumbledore wanking comment is still on the star board.
yes, somehow it is met with universal appreciation
you have to admit the book would have been much more fun had I written it
a magyarok nyilaitól ments meg uram minket'
Sure, but it might have have had a 21+ rating.
Young adults reading the book would've been scarred for life.
probably most adult older than 21 as well
I like my watch
it has rewarded me twice over the weekend for exceeding my calorie goal
Ah nice
Yesterday I used it for a long bike ride.
can't do that, doesn't have a pedal on it
no wheels either
people suggested I use it for riding, but when I sat on it I couldn't go anywhere
it was a stupid idea
08:07
Morning
Selamat Pagi
rage: wait what
it's just monday morning nonsense
don't worry about it
morning Jim
Jim: I met your mate yesterday and he bought the drone
he said he plans to bomb the US embassy with it while he's in Portugal
I told him to record it
so guys I have this problem
my new team lead is hot
also I'm to fly with her to Portland and spend a weekend together there between the two weeks we are to stay there
Yeah sounds like him tbh
Either that or he will terrorize hipsters
In terms of your team lead, that is not a problem.
You can use her to strike fear into your fellow dev's if you get on her good side.
yeah, we get along really well
there are two small flaws I've found in her so far
she's vegetarian and codes in Java
No one is perfect
08:21
I'd be lost if she was any more perfect than she is
Behave your a married man
And also you code using big boy languages
She could be vegetarian and codes in Haskell.
That'd be hotter, right?
More scary id say
she would have pushed coding to the nth degree at that point
and likely be vegan
How about vegan and Linux user?
She would trim your chest hair and replace it with open source chest hair before making love.
user457812
Vegetarians are fine. Vegans are the ones with weird morality.
08:30
she eats eggs and dairy
she is a vegetarian, but not crazy
Wait, how do you become immortal again?
by shagging so many women so well they erect a statue for you
I like the combination of many women and erect !
2
aren't you Japanese?
although
I think all men are like that :)
nayoso once again came back with a powerful message to us.
08:42
That doesn't make you immortal you just die of Syphilis, though a lot of famous people in history did have Syphilis so...
I was trying to warn you of the dangers of becoming immortal
I would take my chances, make me immortal!
08:57
I'm not Japanese rage ;)
Both me and Enrico are Indonesian
But he likes many women and erection more than me.
As noted by the starred message.
sorry for getting it wrong nayoso, I'll remember that
You should be ashamed :p
well, you're not exactly the embodiment of virtue yourself Jim :)
Suddenly so much horror of past indiscretions flash before my eyes
ill be good
10:28
now that I'm preparing for the trip to Portland I'm listening to John B - American Girls :)
Bahahaha
I am Japanese
(just kidding)
you're not, you're just slowly turning into one
best piece of conversational geekiness today at the office:
"don't make me throw a 500!"
11:32
Well this is new.
11:47
what is that?
I mean where?
One of the edits I approved.
12:04
Seems like a bloody vague question
12:20
Hi
I am trying to verify iTune Recipt From Server
And I am Using AFNetworking Kit to make webrequest
But I am getting always same error code 21002
13:09
Your answer is here i.imgur.com/0i29PJC.gifv
 
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14:18
when will the internet grow up and ignore gifs about cats?
there is a way to insert using Core-Data without refreshing the UI???
Without porn and cat gif's there is no internet
because when I insert like 100 it crashes the app..
what's the crash?
off bounds
my tableView crashes..
after it reconnects or connects and I recieve 100 unread messages from server
14:27
people normally use secondary NSManagedContexts on background threads to import larger datasets
the trick is to set the parent context
I use.. NSFetchController
yes, I get that, but that has nothing to do with what I just said
have any sample code or gist I could base from?
this issue is killing me
no I don't but the web is full of that technique
so STFG
STFG?
14:30
also spelled as GIYF
Direct inserts to SQlite will work best?
Google Is Your Friend
no
never do that
when Core Data manages your sqlite don't mess with it
all sorts of bad things will happen
use a separate NSManagedContext on a thread other than the main
but it crashes
im doing the following
with 100> json array
im doing the following
 
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3 hours later…
20:07
I wonder why @Jonny07 is sleeping?
 
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22:12
hello...
How I could possibly insert many rows and dont crash UI using Core-Data?
UI hangs and crashes after I ask server for 1000 Messages. to insert
Trying to import a large amount of data causes the UI to hang.
* Trying to save a large block of data causes the UI to hang.
* Saving on exit causes the OS to kill the app.
* Importing on launch causes the OS to kill the app.
I'm gone for just a short amount of time, and the starboard looks disgusting
@rage Instrumentals, in my opinion.
any guidance?
thanks :D
have you paused execution?
And see where it is hanging?
the steps I do is following.
1. send a ping using Websockets if any unread message after disconnection of user.
but did you pause execution tho
22:21
2. parse it to object.
3. for loop it.
4. save context
is it hanging forever, or just for a few seconds?
forever and crash
hangs the UI and if try scroll on UITableview it crashes
so...did you pause execution?
nope.
this is the code that handles the incomming unread messages from server
nothing obvious there
besides not prefixing your classes
among other things...
you still need to pause code execution when the app hangs.
It will tell you on what line/block of code it's hanging.

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