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4:27 AM
@Tim school is not place for learning, its place for exploring yourself in front of unknown peoples. I find many such great person and good friends. I learn a lot from some teacher and start hate to shitty teacher who don't want to teach.
 
 
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qki
6:10 AM
hello there
 
qki
6:53 AM
just ended listening to a podcast about compose. I really need to learn it. I should create a simple app using compose - it sounds really promising
 
7:20 AM
hello
ye sounds cool
 
qki
but you can still use Fragments with the compose, right? I've never seen a compose example using Fragment so im a bit confused
 
well yea
i guess so
I mean that would be really stupid
 
qki
yeah
sooner or later gotta get my hands dirty with it
 
57
A: How to use Compose inside Fragment?

veritas1setContent on ViewGroup is now deprecated. The below is accurate as of Compose v1.0.0-alpha01. For pure compose UI Fragment: class ComposeUIFragment : Fragment() { override fun onCreateView( inflater: LayoutInflater, container: ViewGroup?, savedInstanceState: Bundle? ): V...

 
qki
but right now I have my project to finish which is using good old xml data binding
yeah I just saw it
so I guess it's alright with fragments
grig, out of pure curiosity - what business area are you working in?
 
7:29 AM
what do you mean?
 
qki
logistics, production, marketing etc..
 
android?
haha i don't get it man
xD
 
qki
haha
I mean
 
out sourcing
so can be anything
 
qki
ok cool cool
 
7:55 AM
 
8:24 AM
Hi Guys
I am looking for some help here
I am not able to access GeneralName.Type. If I use GeneralName$Type, it works
 
8:53 AM
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is it okay to send someone trademark certificate for verification? I don't feel good about it
 
 
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Tim
10:24 AM
@grrigore youtube.com/watch?v=VDvr08sCPOc you like this?
 
yes
 
Tim
good
 
whats your internet speed guys?
 
Tim
600 something
 
300
i think
 
qki
10:28 AM
I think 500/100
 
but my wireless sucks
 
This was the most starred message last year on this day:
Sep 23 '20 at 17:29, by Tim
you might have done better in church
 
should this work for a buildType called staging?
it will use the (staging) one, right?
 
Tim
yes assuming you have the project view set to 'android'
if you change it to 'project' you will see this file is actually in the staging folder
 
true
thanks
 
 
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11:43 AM
@Tim was my favorite at one point
 
Tim
11:54 AM
dope
 
12:12 PM
how's it going guys
 
not bad
not good either
 
qki
guys
is fun setPrinter(printer: Printer) { _printer.value = printer } better than multiline?
 
what do you mean?
but i think it's ok
i did that
 
qki
I mean you can divide that one line into multiple lines with { in separate lines
 
Jul 28 at 12:54, by Tim
people don't actually do that
 
qki
12:24 PM
Just wondering which is better
 
I would say its about taste and personal preferences
 
hellooooooo everyone :D
 
qki
well I'm personally dividing it into multiple lines
 
Hi Cool :D
 
Tim
only lunatics put everything on one line
2
 
12:26 PM
yo Asim
 
how can I change the build variant for all the modules? -.-
 
Tim
open build variants window and start clicking
 
yo Cool
 
what I did miss in this 3 months being away
haha
 
@Tim yea but for each one right?
 
Tim
12:27 PM
I think so
 
All the chat that happened in those 3 months
 
can't read 3 months of chat :p
 
Tim
can't or don't want to
 
are you saying we are not important enough for you to read just 3 months of chat?
 
@Tim nasty AS
 
12:30 PM
@Tim can't answer
xD
 
can't or don't want to
 
2 mins ago, by Tim
can't or don't want to
 
1:00 PM
ok so I've added that staging buildType
Execution failed for task ':manager:validateSigningStaging'.
> Keystore file 'path/to/keystore/mansion.jks' not found for signing config 'release'.
and I get this
why -.-
initWith debug
this solved it
 
Tim
every build type needs a signingConfig
 
debug has a default one?
like it doesn't need to be declared
this looks nice
 
Tim
1:21 PM
yes but it's machine specific
 
Unknown command '!raw.githubusercontent.com/Nilzor/build-variant-matrix/master/… what's environment here?...'
 
what's environment here?...
I've also tried adding to signgingConfigs but maybe I did that wrong
 
Tim
1:33 PM
no clue
 
anyway
did you do interviews?
for hiring?
 
1:51 PM
o/
 
oi
 
yoo
 
yoooo
sup my man
 
qki
\o
 
not much brooo just in a team meeting bored AF right now
had an interview yesterday where I just totally froze up while I was coding lmao
I hate interviews where u code in front of people and do some rando algorithm
 
1:54 PM
that suckx
 
qki
damn the stress when coding in an interview
 
yeah I dont do well when people expect me to think while their eyes are on me and judging me
next time im gonna ask to walk away and think for 5 mins
also it was like my third hour of interviews straight at that point lol my brain was mush
 
fuck em
 
lol yeah
 
hire for attitude not for skills
 
1:56 PM
that company can lick me yarballs
 
xD
 
qki
haha
 
this one has had 6 hours of interviews so far
2 more to go
who does that
they think they're google
 
qki
:o
 
they should pay me money for my time at this point lol
I hope I get the job I interviewed for 2 days ago, the interview made me actually excited for my career for the first time in years
 
qki
1:57 PM
thats a lot
 
the one yesterday made me want to quit coding forever
lmao
 
o/
 
qki
\o
 
hi mwb o/
 
1:58 PM
how is it hanging guys?
 
down
 
qki
getting angry at ball's interviews
:D
 
hahaha
I'm alright, this week has sucked though. Wayyyy too many interviews, kind of my own fault for booking os many though
also had a few girls flake out on me so not the best there
its been rainy and grey all week too so kinda poop weather
 
qki
same here
im depressed in the morning when it's still dark
 
@grrigore why
 
qki
2:01 PM
actually, im depressed all day so nvm
 
jk mwb
i m ok
 
@ballBreaker well also a bunch who did not
focus on that
 
working doing stuff nm
 
@qki what
 
qki
eh, topic for another day :D
 
2:07 PM
lot of depression going on in IT world
and people ask me why im a garbageman at the moment
So im officially in a relationship with the girl from budapest
will see her again october the 13th
 
Ribbit
 
nicee
congrats
 
Thanks! Why tho?
 
Tim
@qki would you not be depressed if it was not dark? I mean it's still morning, you have to get out of bed and do other pretty depressing things
 
@grrigore thanks, but as if my life did not already have enough challenges
 
2:12 PM
nvm
 
well
 
@MwBakker meh lol I'm not really upset at anything just stating a fact of what's happened the past few weeks
 
qki
Tim, I'd still be, but you got a point.
 
@MwBakker hahaha nice man!
 
@qki is this kotlin?
 
qki
2:14 PM
and congrats mwb :D
yes, it's kotlin
 
thanks guys
 
@qki why don't you turn that ugly expression into a property?
 
but I meet her while my project car had drowned all my savings with the attitude "it didn't work with my ex, so i'll put it in my car" thus barely any savings left and that didn't matter 'till now
 
Savings are overrated
 
qki
2:18 PM
Raymond I used that to set the value of private mutableStateFlow in ViewModel
 
flying to budapest back and forth costs ~25 euro, but everyday I'll be with her means a day less work at my agency
 
qki
are you saying it's better to just set it to public?
 
@qki That sounds too complex, you must be doing something wrong
 
qki
@RaymondArteaga gist.github.com/Qkyyy/9ea870da1a5749d98178dcc1eed97952 is that really complex? serious question
 
Yes.
I will read your code later
 
qki
2:20 PM
np, thats 6 lines. But you got me thinking how could I do it differently
 
question
 
qki
mwb it's kinda to soon to think about living together right?
 
would you rather use flavour over buildtype if the thing that changes is the base api url?
 
2:36 PM
@MwBakker damn that's cheap AF
 
LIKE UR MOM
6
runs away
 
Tim
classic
@grrigore "focused on the scalability, testability and maintainability" bitch shut the fuck up
@qki the code is not complex but there are possibly some design flaws. I.e. what is the point of updating the stateflow if the one that receives the update (fragment?) is also the one that sends the update (with the setter)
 
@Tim I really understand that sentiment
 
Tim
:)
 
qki
@Tim yeah you got the point. I've wrote it that way because im setting that value from Fragment for the first time, but later there are some updates from API which ViewModel handles. I should probably rewrite it a bit so Fragment won't update that at all
 
Tim
2:45 PM
how does the fragment have this object at the start?
I'm guessing it is serialized and passed through the args/bundle?
 
qki
from previous fragment via argument (they have different viewmodels, thats why I used argument)
 
@grrigore too long to read, but looks nice. We actually use modules, but they're on different repos and deployed as aars.
 
qki
gotta go, bye everyone! I'll read the messages tomorrow. Have a nice day!
 
Tim
architecture frameworks are never universally appliccable, every project has different needs. If this github repo didn't exist, nobody would care. It's just another example of "look I did the same thing as you but slightly different". There are no examples of how to deal with platform stuff like Service, which makes this useless for any app that is not extremely basic
 
totally agree. we use "something like that" in the only sense that we use modules instead of a monolith
and we deploy such modules as aars that are then referenced by the monolith as libraries
as everything it has pros and cons, but overall it works pretty well (for us)
 
2:53 PM
@Tim 😃
 
Every framework that doesn't begin by something like "hi, this is a collection of our opinionated solutions to this list of problems" is immediately sus to me
 
im trying to build a pattern
that will allow me to reuse bits of apps in other apps
 
yes, reusing code is nice, but have you ever tried not writing said code to being with?
all the maintainance time you save by writing less code!
 
> not writing said code to being with
I don't get this
 
it's like, 27% joke, 48% hard-earned experience, 15% banter and 4% help me
 
2:57 PM
He's probably talking about github copilot, or Raghav
 
hah
more precisely : every line of code you write will stay with you, which is easy to understand as "well then reuse your code between projects"
 
@RaymondArteaga why you didn't change your profile pix?
 
but also, in my experience, sometimes the code we write to make something usable generically, is tenfold what we actually save by not rewriting it in the first place
 
well I'm talking about stuff like a location tracking service
or image capture add from gallery stuff
 
eg writing and publishing a framework can be lots more work than reimporting low-level libraries in each project
 
2:59 PM
@bluetoothfx "didn't" as in "did"?
 
@RaymondArteaga frog is your identity. Isn't it?
 
we should teach elephants to code
 
@bluetoothfx And a human my avatar is
 
meh
 
3:01 PM
@bluetoothfx he got kissed by a princess recently
5
 
How long I should tell you?
@asim oh really?
:v
 
how else would he be able to turn into a human
 
@FélixAdriyelGagnon-Grenier T_T
my mom is an expensive hooker, thank you verymuch
 
Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Afternoon Everyone!!!! :D
 
3:04 PM
hey @W0MP3R
 
@DaveS, @Mauker, @Pochmurnik, @Graeme, @ballBreaker, @Jordy, @WarrenFaith, @grrigore, @Reno, @Code-Apprentice This is your weekly reminder of New Free Games on Epic Store!!!!! 🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️
@bluetoothfx, @FélixAdriyelGagnon-Grenier, @asim, @qki This is your weekly reminder of New Free Games on Epic Store!!!!! 🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️
 
ayyyyyyyyyy womp womp womp!
 
thaankyoooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
 
Tim
@grrigore nice idea but in practice this can't 'just' be done as under normal circumstances the code you write for the app of client A is not yours to reuse in the app for client B
 
ooo europa universalis IV next week
 
3:11 PM
@Tim why
 
Tim
because normally you sign away the rights to 'the code' in the contract
 
but who would know
only you
are you going to sue yourself tim
 
Tim
I could be rich :think:
 
hahah
 
@Tim yeah, while this is not technically absolutely false, we use dependency managers, which makes any kind of "yeah but do you have the rights to the code" almost irrelevant unless the company is also actively monitoring the licences of their dependency tree
 
Tim
3:20 PM
true it's almost never relevant
but that one time that it is, you're fucked :D
 
oh yeah
tbh tho I find the quality of the tools I write to be better each time I rewrite one instead of importing an older, dumber one
possibly because I'm like "I can't possibly have to write all of this, how much can I do with like, 40 lines"
usually, a measurable portion of the tool's original goal is fulfilled, with an order of magnitude less code and complexity
 
lol nice
 
Tim
true
same as when you look back on "good code" you wrote a year ago and go like "the fuck is this crap"
 
How come you're all talking about android today?
 
3:29 PM
hahaha yeah
I had that on code I wrote a few months ago
but then I remembered that I had half the time I should have had for writing it
So it's like.. damn no wonder it was trash
I wasn't about to work overtime for that shit
I might look into getting on adhd stimulants again.. I feel like I basically require it for job applying
 
its not just the code, everything we do, we will do it better the next time
 
I hope I live life better next time
pulls a pistol from under my seat
 
unless you are born as crab in which case you will have to hide in a shell
 
Tim
I hope I'll have more money next time burns wallet
 
I hope I'm better at doing heroin next time I do heroin
the junkies really made fun of me last time
 
3:34 PM
thats why you should avoid working with professionals before you have some idea of what you are doing
 
that's true I should have freelanced my heroin
so I booked off a half day tomorrow, but I've been telling people I have the full day off
should I just take the full day off at this point
 
hah
guess I'm taking the full day off
whateva, I'm quitting eventually anyway
 
@ballBreaker I more or less start to think I will have to seriously consider this at some point...
@ballBreaker yes
 
3:50 PM
haha
my adhd has been biting me in the ass a ton this past month
 
me too kinda. on the other hand, I now have started two other marvelous projects that will never get anywhere (bare-metal rust kernel, fantasy hockey management cli tools!)
 
ahhh nice haah I've been having insane swings between not being able to motivate myself to do anything - to being intensely hyperfixated on the wrong things
@FélixAdriyelGagnon-Grenier nice that sounds pretty sweet, the fantasy hockey pool one at least xD
 
@ballBreaker oh yeah I'm having so much fun. I've taken to interact with google sheets as databases and it's pretty amusing so far
 
hahaha nice
I bought an ounce of mushrooms that are showing up today
I'll cure my adhd once and for all
 
3:56 PM
give myself a cure for life
lmao
 
shrooms are pretty nice
 
yeah I'm excited
I have some serious reflection I need to do
time for a shaman quest
 
man, I hate people who respond to emails with the content 100% in the subject with no body
 
yo mama so fat she's got all the subject in the body
 
3:59 PM
xD
 
... man I'm horrible, I never do yo mama's but then twice in an hour
 
yo mama so old she gets taught as an entire history subject
 
4:12 PM
@ballBreaker Is that really a common thing? lol
You should just reply to all their emails with "hey, I think you accidentally sent me an empty email."
 
@twiz lmfao
yeah some people in some of the other departments do it A. LOT.
I open it and see an empty email and then just delete it
 
Actually you need to setup some type of auto-responder to do it for you.
 
lmao
 
Like have it send from a different domain and say something like

> Error sending blank email -- Email with subject: "Hey, does anyone know where my tab key went" failed to deliver because no body message was provided. Your account has been charged a $25 processing fee.
The type of person that would do that would be freaking out and calling tech support. haha
 
lmfao
the worst part
is that she would contact ME about that email
 
4:25 PM
hmmm I think I'd just send a "failed to deliver" message to all of that person's emails.
 
lmfao
 
Do you not use any kind of messaging thing where you work?
 
teams
 
Because it sounds like people are using email to send quick messages instead. lol
 
yeah basicall ylol
I'm just going to reply every time now with "why did you send a blank email? was that an accident"
even though I know
 
4:28 PM
No, reply to all their emails through Teams.
 
lol but there is CC'd with multiple people
I'll just repeatedly embarass them in front of all CC'd
even though it also makes me look stupid
 
Ping every single person they CC'd on Teams.
 
lmfao
sounds like a lot of work
 
Actually, the easiest thing to do would probably be to just setup a filter to remove any emails with a blank body. Then respond a week later telling them it was in your spam folder.
 
lol yeah
although their signature makes it not blank
I'll just respond with "sorry I don't see an email. Did you mean to send a blank email?"
 
4:34 PM
haha you should just always respond to tell them you already have their contact details and you're not sure why they sent that to you.
 
lolol
 
 
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5:40 PM
o/
@ballBreaker wait
bro shrooms can always go 50/50
 
I disagree personally haha
I feel like people have WAY more control over shroom trips than they think they do
for me it's usually 95 positive / 5 negative
but everyone is different here obviously
 
yo
 
yo guy
 
i gotta question for y'all
 
@RaymondArteaga bro you have the exact same smile as Quagmire on family guy
 
5:44 PM
Stop stalking my avatar's smile =_=
 
@MwBakker lmfao
 
Also, it's sexy
 
struct Test {
  int x;
};

int main() {
  for (int i = 0; i < 3; ++i){
    Test t;
    if(i == 0){
      t.x = 5;
    }
    std::cout << t.x << "\n";
  }
}
whats the output?
 
@RaymondArteaga GIGGITY
 
ew a programming question
I thought it was going to be fun
I'm not familiar enough with C++ these days but I'm assuming it will be one 5 and 3 fuckups
I can't remember what happens when trying to print an int that isn't initialized
 
5:50 PM
@RaymondArteaga I meant it as a compliment though
 
@JBis i think 5
 
I love quagmire
 
Doesn't C++ have default values?
 
> The value in an uninitialized variable can be anything – it is unpredictable, and may be different every time the program is run.
so it may be all 5's for all cpp cares
or it may be 5 and 0's
or it might be santa claus
 
@MwBakker It doesn't make it less creepy
 
5:54 PM
Yeah it's 5 then undefined behavior but usually 555
 
@ballBreaker "By default, In Primitive datatypes such as int, char, bool, float in C/C++ are undefined if variables are not initialized, But in a Map, every key is mapped with default value zero when the map is declared"
 
its 555
 
(most of the time)
 
I dont know what std::cout means
 
@MwBakker I've been analyzing your face for a while, but I can't find any character that looks like you :(
 
5:58 PM
@MwBakker print
To standard out
 
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