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5:09 AM
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7:23 AM
\o
 
7:34 AM
morning
 
7:46 AM
mogrrrning
 
7:58 AM
sup mwb?
 
my obsessive compulsary thoughts are taking a load on me for some reason he last few days, it's like something is pushing on my chest and I dk how to get rid of it
fortunatly I can get treatment within 4 months the letter said yesterday
you?
 
I'm waiting for the weekend
:D
 
Tim
8:23 AM
:D
 
haha
 
8:43 AM
hehe
im waiting for the night, last night I slept alone and I don't seem to be used to that
only her snoring and kicking can bring me a well rest as it seems
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@grrigore can you jump on disco?
@MwBakker lol
 
when will R15 do an audio talk in discord again?
 
il ask you again in couple of years lol :D
sleeping alone in a bed is a blessing
 
Tim
every time I go on discord for a voice chat there is nobody online
 
what
no
what, you actually did that?
@IvanMilisavljevic been doing that for most of my life now
 
9:04 AM
@MwBakker yeah you're gonna miss it after couple of year of marriage and a baby
 
if so I'll just book a hotel from time to time
 
eli
[ Hi ]
 
@IvanMilisavljevic just a sec
I'm on discrod ivan
 
quick rundown?
an experiment on top posting, with a sloppy batch?
 
basically dozens of bugs and security vulnerabilities introduced by purpose on the linux kernel to prove a point for a research, that there needs to be a process in QA contributions from the community
 
that is like torching a city to prove they need more firefighters
 
9:49 AM
hahaha exactly
except the poor guy who's getting all the heat is the student researcher, not the professor... :/
 
This was the most starred message last year on this day:
Apr 22 '20 at 16:58, by Mauker
Life's a pain
 
 
3 hours later…
12:55 PM
Word
 
word
sup graeme
how's canadian life
 
Tim
white
 
it's snowing right
but he's a polar bear, that's his territory
 
It's actually snowy :P
Stupid weather. Monday I was working outside on my deck, yesterday I woke up and everything was under at least an inch of snow
 
"outside on my deck"
what
 
Tim
1:11 PM
on his deck, which is not inside
just got a gold badge for doing nothing w00t
 
1:26 PM
MwBakker - Which of the words threw you off?
 
Tim
'my' Mwb is communist so he would say 'our' deck
 
Ah, makes sense
 
yes
 
exhale finished attempt #3 for my cryptographical protocol
 
Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Afternoon Everyone!!!!! :D
@FélixGagnon-Grenier smell?
 
1:40 PM
gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood morning :)
@W0MP3R "code smell", or rather architecture smell herein
keeping in mind that I'm snob, using an iframe to create a menu to prevent rewriting it is almost certainly the wrong idea :p
(here's to me hoping really hard it's not w0mp3r have had the idea)
 
no no
not my idea
but the teacher said, "Do this with that"
and i did
and my brain farted while doing it
 
<3
that would be the correct reaction. I'm just bummed because having the menu in a iframe complexifies literally every other aspect of navigation. I don't know why your teacher would ask for that. did they explain a bit their reasoning?
mfw it's actually a thing and I've simply never encountered / given much weight to it, let alone try. well, at least this is what this website says (marqee aesthetics warning).
 
he just wanted us to try differents methods of structuring a website
 
I see. cool cool :)
sorry for my over-critical intervention
 
no no hahahahh
don't worry
 
1:47 PM
\o/
 
i asked the smell stuff 'cause it's the first time i see it hahah
 
:) I was thinking about it like en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_smell
 
oooooh
 
@Tim mwb is a communist so he actually doesn't know anything other than tall soviet style high rises
the concept of a deck is very confusing
 
Have any of you ever worked on a product with no requirements?
 
1:54 PM
@W0MP3R in this case, the smell was that if one's goal is not to repeat the menu in a site, templating tools are the way to go. There are a lot of them out there so even if one does not want to introduce too much complexity at once (such as in an academic context) it's possible to wire a skeleton that allows learners to do the task at hand with minimal adverse interaction.
Have any of you ever worked on a product with requirements?
 
cool cool
 
I just sent flowers to my gf's work, she reminds me of my old pet rat and she is a chef so I titled the card 'Ratatouille'
 
oooooooooh.... that's so cute
 
That's a rude way to tell your gf you have a crush on her colleague
 
🤣🤣🤣
 
1:57 PM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier hehe
I didn't mention she was working there today
 
but I realized, if you ever bored you can just send flowers to your neighbour while his wife is home "last weekend was fantastic"
 
:O
 
:O :O
das kinda evil lmao
 
@Graeme errrr elaborate
do you have to do the job of the pm in addition to being a software eng
 
2:01 PM
At my new job my app is inherited and like... 8 years old
 
There is no requirements documents, only the test script is used to check the app works
 
never touched during these 8 years or?
 
Constantly built on by a list of developers, maybe 1 a year
 
oh my gods you hit jackpot
 
Tim
2:02 PM
@Graeme main project in previous job was for a client who didn't really know what he wanted so gave a vague direction and told me to just make something nice, and when I'd finish he suddenly knew what he wanted (something else entirely of course)
 
@Tim There is a term for this
 
@Tim hahah
 
Tim
yes they call it 'red flag' I believe
 
D:
 
indeed
@Graeme well, in that regard, I have never worked in a context where we had any of those. I write specs as I go, trying to piece it together from what employees ask me and trying to get their eyes on it as much as possible.
But like, I make websites so, that's probably not totally the same
 
2:05 PM
But that's you writing a spec as you go. Imagine writing it without a spec... and then someone inheriting it 8 years later XD That's where I am
 
yeah wow, I can't imagine
good luck with that!
 
Tim
throwing it out and starting over is sometimes both easier and faster
 
which creates the opportunity to do it in Flutter
I just heared the news: 52 workers at the coast of Bali(?) are trapped in a submarine without perspective of survival
no 'hashtags' no 'pray for' not a single bit of empathy on social media here. Another proof that in the end: nobody gives a single care
and a lot of people are pretentious
 
Tim
I don't see anything other than that it's missing
 
2:20 PM
it was on the news at my radio
Anyway the moral is: we pretend so much we care but we don't: not for George Floyd, not for Beyrout, not for some church in France, not for kids in Syria
But every day I get confronted to care about it: gets shut down in my throat for some reason
I miss the point, and somehow it irritates me a lot
 
Tim
you can care about something while simultaneously accepting you cannot change the situation
 
I had one query regarding android permissions?
shall I?
 
Tim
let us first gather the elders. They must vote to decide if you can ask the question
@W0MP3R @MwBakker @FélixGagnon-Grenier what say you
 
I say we let them
 
Sure, ask
omg... I'm an elder?!
 
Tim
2:32 PM
the elders have spoken @DivyeshDhedhi come forward and present your case
 
@W0MP3R chin up
 
let him ask
 
Hiya bB!!! :D
 
heya wompy :D
@MwBakker yeah I heard they have 72 hours of oxygen left
it's snowing right now :D
 
2:42 PM
:O!!!
i want snow!!
 
hehehe
you're still in spain?
 
yes
 
:O nice
 
no snow in sight in my city 'till winter >.<
 
I did a spanish exchange thing in highschool and all of the spanish people were from madrid and said they never saw snow in person before coming to canada haha
(unless they went skiin gin the mountains)
 
2:45 PM
@ballBreaker when someone uses "hehe" I always imagine them as:
 
hehehe
 
@ballBreaker "I did a spanish exchange thing" by which he means he birds&bee'd a Spanish student once
 
just once?!
 
Hi everyone. New to the room, but scared to say anything lest I break the room rules.
4
 
^ this is the kind of spirit we want people to enter the Room with
3
Now please do not type for 5 min and let BallBreaker commence his story about his Spanish students
 
2:52 PM
xD
I did have a spanish girlfriend for a few months
and a spanish brother
fun fact, when I was 15 I went to spain for 3 weeks and got drunk every day pretty much
I convinced my spanish family that my family also drank wine with each meal... and for whatever reason bartenders didn't ask for my ID xD
 
@MwBakker XD
 
wait you had a spanish brother?
 
@crypticツ welcome!
 
@MwBakker 'brother' haha
 
I don't get it
 
2:54 PM
A guy came and stayed with my family for like 3-4 months, and then I stayed with his family for like a month
 
oooh
I did that once, except they came to my house but I never got to theirs
 
oooh
going there was the best part
 
it was too expensive
 
@Mehdi das pretty nice gif
 
one was all the way in Brazil and the other in the States
 
2:55 PM
yeah I think it was super expensive for the spanish peeps
 
worst part: they were dudes
 
less for us
 
cool to hang out with, but... you know...
 
hey @crypticツ ! don't let the boys scare you :P
 
yes.. you should be most afraid of womper
she has shovels
 
2:57 PM
or those who control the void
it's cold in there
 
@MwBakker haha yeah
I miss spain, I wanna go back
 
I promised my spanish ex family to visit them for 7 years now
first I didnt want to go because the situation would be too confrontating
then it was school that got in the way, now it's corona
it's like there is a damn curse on visiting that town
but I will go with my gf this summer, if covid allows so
 
niiiiceee that would be sweet
how far is spain from NL if you drove?
also I just had a woman in my apartment for the first time in like 8 months
look at me
too bad she was testing my fire alarm
and left immediately after
 
[this never happened]
 
well you just asked a question without the room elder's approval... so you've gone this far
 
3:02 PM
oh no!
 
:D
hahahah I was kidding, go ahead and ask away
there is currently a blizzard out :O this is crazy
 
When I run pm disable com.google.something what file(s) are being modified/created to disable that package? I'm stuck in a softbrick and trying to reverse those changes from a TWRP backup as I can't access ADB to run pm.
 
@ballBreaker hahah
@ballBreaker the town I want to visit is a 2400km drive
 
Tim
@crypticツ we can only help with easy questions :/
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@MwBakker oof that's a decent drive lol
 
3:07 PM
@crypticツ I can help with softbricks
 
that would be such a nice fuckin drive though eh
 
doesn't TWRP have the full backup set to revert? I believe it can backup the entire systemIMG
 
drive right through belgium and france, then northern spain ;o
would be a dream
 
@ballBreaker yeah, in my repainted Thunderbird :D
 
as long as you're not in a ford that breaks down
cough
 
3:09 PM
I have done this drive when I was 18, I had a car to move my stuff to her town because I was about to live there for 10 months
It was a ~4 day drive in total
 
... yeah thinking back on it, I hope you didn't feel mansplained to when I was speaking about iframes @W0MP3R, I just freaking love templating systems and I wanted to offer more than "lel this sucks" in lieu of contribution, because I dislike when people say something is bad without offering alternatives.
 
I took all the inside roads, to save money and see most of the stuff
 
That's the problem, I don't have a backup prior to that single change of the package being disabled. So I made a backup afterwards, and transferred the backup to my computer so I can unarchive the backup and manually revert the changes before restoring from it.
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier no no, don't worry. I got what you ment hahah
 
@ballBreaker I remember driving through the pyrenees and a huge thunderstorm broke lose and it felt like me and the car in front of me were just surviving the small mountain roads
 
3:11 PM
:)
/canadian-ness
 
@MwBakker nice man :D that would be so nice
 
Right now, I can only get as far as entering in my screen pattern, and then the LineageOS boot animation to load the homescreen just loops. If I can somehow get ADB to work I can simply re-enable the package.
 
@crypticツ can you find a gapps file and try to flash that? edit: got one opengapps.org
@crypticツ can you trace what you have disabled and re-flash these files through recovery (TWRP) or fastboot ?
With that type of car :D
 
@Tim hahaha
 
@MwBakker lolol nice
 
3:20 PM
@MwBakker it's a de-Googled phone. I disabled the package com.android.location.fused to disable location features from the package level, but apparently Android "needs it" to bootup. Would installing the app from TWRP re-enable it? Because disabling using the pm script doesn't uninstall it, it just marks it as disabled state.
 
@crypticツ reflashing that specific app (component? ) should do the trick
 
alright, I'm downloading the latest ROM right now to extract the package. Where would it be located?
 
So either search that file in clean state on xda (or somewhere) or in your ROM (as you did) or flash the entire Gapps file instead
@crypticツ tough one, somewhere under google.packages on root level for sure but you gotta search the exact location
@crypticツ it "needs" it in the boot because you removed the component but the bootscript does not know about this
And it will loop instead of skipping what it can't find
I miss the days of flashing stuff eversince I got a huawei with a bootloader that cant be opened
 
ok so there is a system.new.dat.br file in the LineageOS zip. I extracted that file and renamed it to .zip and .tar, but neither work. Any idea what kind of file this is and how I'd explore its contents?
wiki.lineageos.org/extracting_blobs_from_zips.html found some info, brb as I try this.
 
3:42 PM
@MwBakker ok I got the FusedLocation.apk file. Do I need to make it a zip file when flashing via TWRP?
 
interesting SO has a chat room too
is there any special usage to this room or just for casual chat?
 
for casual and technical discussions
 
hmm i meant SO room in general , i just saw this room link while browsing a question
never seen that before
 
there are multiple rooms chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms, each of these having a different culture
 
ah i see so room wise rules , thanks gotcha
 
3:47 PM
yeah, CoC of SO above the room rules of course
 
yeah got it
 
Tim
but the CoC is not enforced so you can do what you want
 
:O
 
chat seems to have lot of random conversation and no android conversation , the room description seems fitting that way
 
3:55 PM
The CoC also doesn't explicitly ban invading the Netherlands
 
@Tim hahahaha
 
@RaghavSood you mean the small island type country that is barely visible on map?
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Tim
@AndroidDev many people here joined many years ago but don't do android development anymore
 
no he's talking about his own personal netherlands
no one invades raghav's netherlands :(
 
Tim
@AndroidDev see if the CoC was enforced the police would be knocking on your door now because you offended a whole country
 
3:59 PM
i thought the netherlanders were known for toughness?
 
dude came 5min ago, immediately trolls an elder XD
 
sorry didn't mean to be rude i was jk
 
I thought the netherlands was known for "Black Pete"
 
Tim
the council will convene later to decide your fate
 
XD
 
4:02 PM
xD
 
whatever happened with black pete
are people still upset about that
 
@Tim i am not sure you barely visible country has that many people to make a council?
 
Tim
the council is international. But don't worry they mostly like everyone on the whole planet. So unless you're from mars or something you have nothing to worry about
 
@ballBreaker what is that?
 
santa's black slave or something
 
4:06 PM
Hello, Android!
 
lol jk I think he's supposed to be santas companion covered in chimney ash, but people use blackface to depict him so people get hurt in the feelings
 
ah i see
 
Hiya CA!!!! :D
 
@W0MP3R \o
how's things in your part of the world?
 
Anyone in here (with Canada or American work visa) want a job ?
(Now that location basically means nothing)
 
4:20 PM
Do I have to apply or do I just get the job no questions asked?
 
@Code-Apprentice it's meh xD
 
@crypticツ sorry I was driving
@crypticツ i think you can run apk's through recovery or fastboot
 
@Graeme what is it?
 
 
xD
 
4:24 PM
so informative
now do racism next
 
D:
 
Tim
just a big red block
 
hahah
 
@Graeme that is a very small sample size :p
 
Not sure if trolling or serious twitter.com/JJDodders/status/1385019830257000450?s=19 xD
 
4:29 PM
lmao definitely comes across as KenM
 
please see sense, who is KenM?
 
some famous troller
he has his own subreddit he's so good
 
what else you find on twitter apart from trollers?
oh reddit well another trollfest
 
You would have to apply :P But it's a mid level Android Developer role helping me
 
i meant the work visa requirement would disqualify a lot of people
 
4:39 PM
@MwBakker it didn't work. Which makes me think it's not resetting the state of the app. I really need to figure out where Android stores a package's disabled/enabled state property.
 
hello
 
hello
 
Hiya!!!! :D
 
Hi
W0mper
What's up
 
I am learning crypto is hard
But for the first time I am actually starting to understand the math behind it
 
4:48 PM
Oh
Wow, one way math
 
what is the math behind it?
 
for what i am doing now, combinatorics and modulus
 
what is combinatorics?
or you just made up the word?
 
Like combinations, permutations, and stuff
 
5:02 PM
@crypticツ that is too specific for me, you could find this on XDA
@ballBreaker hahah
 
@MwBakker Thank for the assistance, and I'll ask there indeed. I did find this dzone.com/articles/depth-android-package-manager provides me a lot of info that I was not able to find anywhere else.
 
too bad I couldnt tell you what is responsible for enabling/disabling stuff but there must be a flashable script for that written somewhere
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A: How to start and stop android service from a adb shell?

n611x007I'm a beginner in Android, but got it working like this: in AndroidManifest.xml, make sure you, inside <application>, have something like this: <service android:name="com.some.package.name.YourServiceSubClassName" android:permission="com.some.package.name.YourServiceSubClassName"> <intent-f...

maybe this will help?
 
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