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3:17 AM
@RaghavSood Doing some research, could you point me in the direction of how to establish the identify of an unknown party over an insecure channel without preexisting communication? How can Bob confirm someone claiming to be Alice is actually Alice without a trusted third party?
Similar to HTTPS but without needing a CA to confirm the certificate.
 
You need some kind of oracle (which would be a trusted third party) or some kind of zero knowledge proof (which is much more complicated, but avoids third parties)
 
A zero knowledge proof that prevents replay attacks would probably work for what i need
thanks for the term
 
a ZKP would still rely on being able to establish identity based on some previously known factor though
Identity is tied to the past
There has to be some fact you can authenticate off
It doesn't need to be something that needs to be exchanged explicitly, but it must be provable
 
Ok. I was thinking a simple domain.
Hmm. Let me change the scenario a bit. Alice and Bob have never met each other, their mutual friend Trent tells them a secret code to help them identify each other. Alice and Bob go to crowded party, they need to find each other without exposing the secret code to everyone. That sounds like a ZKP situation.
@RaghavSood How does zpk work to prevent replay attacks? I'm seeing some stuff about nonce's but not really understanding.
 
4:23 AM
@JBis That sounds like they need to perform a diffie hellman and just exchange the code
 
 
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8:16 AM
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8:40 AM
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Tim
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> problem: abstract types either need to be mapped to concrete types,
have custom deserializer, or be instantiated with additional type information
Great day to start off
 
Just use haskell
 
9:28 AM
@JBis yeah this sounds like a perfect case for DF
 
9:46 AM
@MuratKaragöz does the office have AC? :D
 
10:00 AM
I shovel the heat out of the window with my bare hands
 
You should get bear hands instead, more surface area, faster shoveling
 
management material right there
 
10:21 AM
@MuratKaragöz XD
 
This was the most starred message last year on this day:
Aug 12 '19 at 20:17, by ballBreaker
It would get warm just based on the raw emotion
 
10:36 AM
how is everyone doing?
 
too hot
 
he looks mean
 
I think he's a comedian, and this song is just for fun XD
 
 
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1:04 PM
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1:40 PM
Ribbit
 
2:22 PM
that's not what the fox says
 
2:42 PM
@RaghavSood @IvanMilisavljevic I'm refining it once more. It seems I fell into the trap of the XY problem.
Basically, I'm trying to solve the problem of encrypting SNI as described here tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tls-sni-encryption-09
 
 
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4:41 PM
@RaghavSood are you familiar with SRP (secure remote password en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Remote_Password_protocol)?
 
5:27 PM
@JBis even the most professional programmers can fall down the XY rabbit hole
 
is the "XY rabbit hole" a man's butt?
 
That's a weird way to say hello
(Hello)
 
heya nya
 
5:53 PM
Heya bb
How are you?
 
not too bad man, just doing a little investigating in the code for an issue
I'm 99% certain it's a pebkac but we'll see
 
@ballBreaker wow
 
Statistically, 99% of problem are pebkac, if you include the dev chair
 
hahaha
@Code-Apprentice my brain is too good with deductions, even if they are crappy ones
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@Nyakouai lool true
 
6:18 PM
@Nyakouai How're you doing?
 
Same old, same old
Not much is happening, this year
But it gives time to do stuff I couldn't before. Since I have a new pc, I play game I couldn't run before
Started The Outer Worlds, it's nice so far
 
Yeah I feel ya there
This was a great summer to get my new laptop haa
What games you been playing otherwise?
Outer Worlds is pretty awesome
 
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6:39 PM
Borderlands 3, Detroit (though we talked about it iirc), Banners of Ruin, some text based games
I'm eyeing Horizon, but since I've still games to play, I've refrained from buying yet
 
7:05 PM
BL3 is great. I haven't quite finished it yet.
I snagged it on Steam on a 50% off sale or something.
 
Tim
interesting, I played 1 and 2 back in the day, didn't know there was a 3
 
@Nyakouai it's great
How's Banners of Ruin ?
 
I like it
Still early access tho, so things changing and stuff not working
The meta changed halfway through a run, cause I got an update during the night
Borderlands 3, I ragequitted when I started the DLC
I was one-shotting mobs left and right in the main quest, I unlock chaos mode, did not enable it but somehow, all mobs turned into bullet sponges
Fun game until that
 
why does legit every online community have a problem balancing offensive jokes and a welcoming policy?
 
@Nyakouai jeeze lol so it went from way-too-easy to way-too-hard ?
 
7:18 PM
Well, I had farmed a lot and did 95% of the side quest, so it went from fun to "Lol, your legendary gun is shit now"
 
seems people are unable to differentiate between hate speech and jokes
 
I think because sensitivities vary so dramatically it's hard to please everyone, and typically sensitive people are the loudest
 
HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT
 
@Nyakouai did you have to have run on legendary basically the whole time? Do you get better loot on the legendary mode?
 
(hello, it's me, the comic support, hi)
 
7:19 PM
Legendary on easy = common on hard? kinda thing
 
@ballBreaker I tried answering that, then reread, then gave up
My brain is mush
 
@ballBreaker yeah, i've suggested creating an "offensive" channel but still people are unhappy
i'm an idiot. I was making a "Hide" toggle and I did "Hide/Unhide" instead of "Hide/Show"
 
@Nyakouai haha no worries
@JBis I don't get it
almost every one i've seen is hide/unhide
@JBis That's probably the easiest solution but it'll most likely end up in a lawsuit or something lol
 
oh, then i guess im not the only one
 
first example I can think of is excel..but you hate MS so not sure if the best example ;)
 
7:27 PM
lol, i like their software for the most part, just hate their OS
excel is great, but is extremely difficult to work with when you know about proper databases
 
it's DB integration is actually pretty well-done but yeah
it's not really meant to replace a db
I'm actually not even sure from a companies perspective what the best take on offensive language should be.. it's a tricky subject
On one hand you don't want to scare people off by being too strict with it, and limit fun.. but on the other hand you don't want to become 4chan
 
Tim
7:43 PM
just be stack overflow
make rules and guidelines, and don't enforce them
everybody wins
 
We do tend to yell a lot, tho
 
7:59 PM
@JBis Because people are fucking stupid.
Which one was that?
Also, these are exciting times. I actually have a question about Android!
 
@ballBreaker Yeah, I sometimes try to think of it as a mini db for quick things, but it isn't.
 
Anyone ever come across a case of build.gradle not updating the versionCode in AndroidManifest.xml when you build the app?
 
@twiz nope, but then again i've never used gradle...or android
 
8:13 PM
oh nevermind. CI/CD is such a hassle. I have things happening out of order.
Now in like 20 minutes, I'll know if I fixed it... I need to setup a way to cache npm packages or something.
 
@JBis excel for sure has it's uses, mostly for analysis and visualization. But it definitely doesn't replace a full DB like some people try to make it do.
 
8:29 PM
@Tim yeah I was gunna suggest that ahha SO's policy is pretty good when it's not heavily enforced and left up to the RO/mod discretion
I hate when it takes me like 40 minutes to implement new code that only took me 3 seconds to write
gotta commit...push...build...deploy...bleh
 
8:44 PM
Kamala Harris announced as Biden VP
 
was that just announced? not terribly surprised that it's her
 
I was going to say a bad joke
but I'll refrain
dunno who she is tho
 
don't tease me
 
haha fine
was going to say "that's a weird name for a man"
kind of an overplayed joke at this point though
 
I'll be going, cya all
 
8:58 PM
(:
cya Nya!
I'm gunna head out as well on those crickets, ciao everyone
 
@Code-Apprentice yes
@ballBreaker she ran for president against biden, and called him "not a racist, but"
 
Tim
so she doesn't really know him? or
 
She's a Senator, so yah, they know each other well, I assume
Considering he was a Senator also before being VP
 
i think it was a mistake
 
why's that?
 
9:05 PM
too much controversy behind her
there were 2 other black women that would of done just fine
kamala harris just leaves a bad taste in peoples mouths if that makes sense
 
yah, I'm sure there's plenty of that around, unfortunately
 
10:14 PM
all these lonely stars about empty rooms and I can tell y'all miss me
 
Tim
hello.............dave
 
@DaveS Hi!
 
o/
 
@Tim I am supposed to read that in HAL's voice, right?
 
Tim
I don't know for sure how a hardware abstraction layer would say it
or who do you mean :) shame on me huh
 
10:24 PM
it's the AI from 2001: A Space Odyssey
it's a '68 sci-fi movie, guessing CA is showing his age
HAL 9000 is a fictional artificial intelligence character and the main antagonist in Arthur C. Clarke's Space Odyssey series. First appearing in the 1968 film 2001: A Space Odyssey, HAL (Heuristically Programmed ALgorithmic Computer) is a sentient computer (or artificial general intelligence) that controls the systems of the Discovery One spacecraft and interacts with the ship's astronaut crew. While part of HAL's hardware is shown toward the end of the film, he is mostly depicted as a camera lens containing a red or yellow dot, instances of which are located throughout the ship. HAL 9000 is voiced...
 
Tim
no I don't usually enjoy watching movies that old
 
I haven't seen it either
 
@Tim @DaveS youtube.com/watch?v=ARJ8cAGm6JE The only line you need to know.
 

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