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4:31 AM
Good morning everyone. :)
 
@RaghavSood Me too. A bit scary because it was too much expensive
 
Yeah, wouldn't buy it if I were paying
But I'm not, so eh
 
Company paid it for you?
 
They will, haven't bought yet
Still undecided
 
jee my company will reject me and send me a Samsung A70 picture instead and properly explain to me why A70 should already enough😂.
maybe I should try
 
4:44 AM
Go for it
Job safety is overrated
 
 
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7:06 AM
o/
 
 
1 hour later…
8:20 AM
It's that time of the year again, taxes!!
luckily i live in a country where you have dozens of cheap/free ways of click next next next and that's it
sadly, all those next are in german and i have no clue what i'm doing
 
@CptEric or Arabic lol
Corona in my town :D
 
have fun
 
it was funny, the news reported corona in a few large cities, and then in between my small town
no other small towns
 
@Piyush You need at least 80 rep and a 4:3 q:a ratio to get access here
 
"Bro 100x zoom, for when you spot something 2km away and you..."
"Bro, 120Hz for when you..."
"Bro, 12GB RAM for when you want to run 30 apps simultaniously and you..."
"Bro, 5G for when you are VERY near a not-yet existing 5G antenna and you.."
"Bro, film in 8K so you can immediatly buy our $2000 8K TV and watch your friends in 8K so you can...!"

- $1250 please
I love tech but the S20 has no benefit comparing to the s10 other than flexxing with features no one might ever use in the 2 year lasting lifetime of such hyped device
 
8:34 AM
the what
 
responding to Raghav's decission
 
i wouldn't get a samsung even if my life depended on it
well, in that case maybe
but i would not use it
 
eli
[ HI ]
 
o/
 
But is free
And my other options are limited
 
8:44 AM
I buy S20 and get a 50' UHD TV for queue up over night
 
if it's paid in installments you pay both
what are the other options?
 
installment in malaysia have zero rates, not 50% rates
I think other country do have 0% installment option
 
50' UHD TV is almost more than half of the phone price
 
I don't even own a TV
Who needs a TV in 2020
 
8:48 AM
I need it for mine plash speed and switch
 
Oh, so you're one of those people
 
it would be a huge upgrade from my 37' fhd monitor
queue for a phone sounds dumb , queue over night sounds retarded
 
That's why they will ship it to me
 
but it offer an UHD TV, im sold
 
Although being NZ, shipping will probably take a decade or two
 
8:53 AM
atlease it will arrive
in malaysia your parcel wont guarantee on even arrive 😂
 
Happens here too
I've taken to redirecting my parcels to the grocery store
 
If I have symptoms of flu my access to the building is being revoked
 
Residential delivery is bad
 
i'll buy a golden retriever and be a work-at-home dad
 
@MwBakker Are you sure it's not because you're... you?
2
 
8:56 AM
Helloooooooo
 
@RaghavSood highly possible, but now with a law-bound reason
 
yeah, it was. delivery man was lazy to knocking door and leaving without phone call
 
9:18 AM
So, no recommendations for any alternate phones?
S20 Ultra it is then
If it is a bad choice I will hold Adam and Dave responsible
 
Tim
samsung is bad choice
 
I'm open to suggestions from the links previously posted
adds Tim to list of people to blame
 
Tim
the vodafone link only has shit phones
same for the other one
 
@RaghavSood Pixel 4, OnePlus 7T Pro... just some names that could be a good alternative
 
Neither of those are offered by NZ carriers
 
9:26 AM
hardware or software related? Cause otherwise just get the right decoding patch from XDA
 
I have to buy it on an NZ contract for the company to cover it
 
and you can't buy a non-carried phone on that contract?
 
Nope, only the ones they offer
 
so why you ask us for the alternatives if you know the other phones on that list yourself
bet the list isn't that big
 
o/
 
9:28 AM
Because I'm not familiar with phones any more, you lot might be
And I shared the list a few messages back
 
when was that, I didnt see the others
 
42 mins ago, by Raghav Sood
@CptEric https://www.vodafone.co.nz/shop/mobile/product-listing/?filterBy=planView_onAccount
42 mins ago, by Raghav Sood
https://www.spark.co.nz/shop/mobile/phones.html
This is why your building wants you gone, MwB
No attention to detail
 
wait for p40 premium
 
@RaghavSood who exactly is familier with phones these days? The lot does not use most of the features anyway anymore. It's mostly flexxing with things one might never use
 
p40 premium for camera, huawei wont let p40 lose on s20 ultra battle
 
9:30 AM
Probably no one, but the odds of people who do Android dev knowing more than a random person off the street are in my favour
 
but huawei wont given bootloader unlock, so there is no root
 
P40 might not even have playstore, it's a loss by start
 
huawei cant root, is the reason I choose samsung
 
I chose the mate 20 because rooting had no other benefit for me than some extra batterysaving or UI customazation
 
Tim
I would rather get an iPhone than a samsung
 
9:32 AM
p40 will not have plat store, but user can install them manually (rumour)
 
But the battery already lasts 2 full days
 
I have an iPhone 8 and 6 already
And a 6P and OnePlus 5T
 
@nyconing without root this wont work as you want it to be
Anybody can install it manually but you wont recieve updates etc, at least it used to be like that not that long ago
 
Tim
nice, use the OP 5T then
 
@MwBakker no, just like mate30, they can install it by user
 
9:33 AM
I'm using the 5T now, but free stuff is nice
 
@nyconing and peform every single update manually
 
oneplus didnt came to malaysia market
 
Tim
have you looked at OPPO?
 
@Tim that is like looking at KIA while you can choose Mercedes
 
Tim
what is the mercedes in this story
 
9:34 AM
the Samsung S20 ultra
 
Tim
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@nyconing not much. got mine for 199€
 
@Tim you already wrote this before I even answered you
 
a nice LG
 
The only other cool option I see is the CAT S61
It has a thermal camera
 
9:35 AM
apple people might just to wait for iphone12
 
Tim
that's actually a good analogy, because mercedes is very performant, but ugly AF
 
But I can just get the S20 Ultra and buy a better thermal camera, so not sure if I'm sold on that yet
 
who needs a thermal camera?
 
Who doesn't?
 
i don't
 
9:36 AM
So much easier to break into things protected by keypads
Such as ATMs
And "secured" doors
 
thermal camera? for covid checking?
 
You can ROI in no time
 
ROI?
 
that only works on hot environements, you'd be better with a bluelight emitter with contrast settings, to be able to distinguish skin oil traces
 
I wanted to use the thermal camera for my urban exploring stuff, but I realized I might just use flashlight
 
9:37 AM
Return on investment
And FLIR One Pro is just $350 or so
@CptEric It works on body heat traces as well
 
yes but there's little to zero heat trace on a keypad in a cold winter berlin morning
 
Which can be more helpful that oil tracing, since oil lasts longer, and for ATM type keypads used often, all keys will have a large amount of skin tracing
 
hence the contrast
 
you have to wait untill Wifi camera's come to market. They use wifi signals to look through walls
 
I avoid that by not robbing people in Berlin on cold winter mornings
 
9:38 AM
they don't use cards anyway. cash everywhere
 
NZ is big on cards
Most people don't carry cash
 
they carry animal skins as payment?
 
People still carry cash?
 
I pay in compliments
 
Tim
in NL people look at you weird when you pay with cash
 
9:39 AM
In my town, those who pay with cash usually avoid taxes
 
People start hissing when you pay otherwise than contactless card nowadays
 
They also are not hesitent to show the pile of cash while paying, it's an odd flex because avoiding taxes is a poor-mans thing to do so the pile of cash does not give me the right impression
 
in germany it's because "if you use cards they will know what you're buying"
and they've had their fare share of they 's to be worried about, so i don't blame 'em.
 
they's ?
((They's)) ?
 
whatever floats your boat
or doubles your yatch
 
9:42 AM
my pimped credit card will tell
I dk how to revert back to my message that shows the card
 
i long lost that skill
 
anyone using gradlew build scans?
 
Tim
nah that's for nerds
 
Android prog is for nerds
 
9:46 AM
at the top of the nerd chain, sit the C / C++ devs :D
 
where is c# stationed?
 
that's not considered programming, sorry
 
Don't know, don't care, I dabble in C/C# and C++ at the same time
 
for me GCC for C is top of nerd chain
 
@Mehdi why you hurt me like that
 
9:48 AM
Cause you did not call him baby
 
see, you could learn a thing or 2 from Nyak :D
 
Btw, I'm surprised we have a JBot stop trigger, but not a Baby don't hurt me. What is @JBis doing?
stop?
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
@MwBakker but seriously, for me it's at the same level as Java or 1 level lower at the middle of the chain), the botom of the chain being Python
 
Programming hierarchy is not about what you write in, but what you build
 
9:50 AM
@Mehdi xD
 
@Mehdi You forgot VB even lower
 
or javascript
 
@Nyakouai I discovered gui programming through VB, and i loved it XD
@RaghavSood But if I have to build an http client when I wanna build a todo app… :D
 
Amateur
Real devs build their own silicon
 
eli
Web devs is this a wordpress theme ? mwanaharakatimzalendo.co.tz
 
9:54 AM
Yes.
 
eli
can you give me its name please
 
No.
It is trivial to find out
 
how is everyone doing? :)
 
eli
Okay thanks RS
 
Tired, Mehdi
 
9:59 AM
\o
 
@Mehdi hurt
 
I hurt myself today, to see if I still feeeeeel ♫
 
i'm alright, but two coughs and I am sitting at home enjoying quarantime
 
brb, I need some Johnny Cash
 
they say corona tests are determined by blood tests, so I rather just silently pass away instead of those damn blood tapping needles
I have a heavy phobia for those
 
10:03 AM
I have to get a blood test tomorrow for a visa application
Along with general medical check and an xray
 
@MwBakker Aren't you tattooed?
 
No I am not tattooed
 
Ah, my mistake
 
Easily rectified
All you need is a Mehdi, needles and, some ink
 
@RaghavSood how many all nighters did you chain? :D
@MwBakker why is that :(
 
10:04 AM
I will force him to tattoo c#
@Mehdi cause I love c# but just like databinding I stand alone
 
Get Mehdi to hold down MwB, and Nyakouai will no longer be mistaken with a few jabs of a needle
@Mehdi Several, been a busy few days. Averaged about 2hr/night over the last 10 days or so
 
but I am bound to my decissions and see a sharp bright path upon the horizon
 
Finally slept well last night
 
@MwBakker I hope you said this with a slight sad smile, while turning your back to head towards the sunset :D
@RaghavSood oh... is it fixed now? did you lose any money?
 
We're back to fully operational, lost a small amount
Nothing that'll sink the company, but still feels bad :D
 
10:08 AM
did you figure out where was the breach?
 
I just made an apology to my collegues for the whole virus thing, get some scares going on
"but it was not you... right?"
 
@Mehdi Yeah, got all that sorted
 
nice, congrats :D
 
10:30 AM
nice
 
10:47 AM
I must consume the Oreos
 
11:12 AM
I have consumed the Oreos
 
One day the Oreo will consume you
 
LIES
 
12:05 PM
o/
 
"Good luck on your Corona MwB"
- "You mean good luck to anyone here in the office :D"
 
Tim
are you dying?
 
I'm dying for a good result on my internship
 
12:34 PM
Last weekend I met a Belgianese, @Tim guess how the Belgian calls a "Snackmuur"
 
Goooood mornight!
 
Tim
"home"?
 
xD
No, a "vleeschjesmuugr"
I wasn't hungry anymore
 
@MwBakker for a sec i thought you met tim, i was gonna ask was he wearing a armour?
 
he would now wear a hazmat suite
 
Tim
12:50 PM
kill myself, save the time the trip would take
 
1:02 PM
Save the physical effort and just imagine that you are now dead
 
xD
@trevor-e Well terrible traffic and an IT city , sounds like awful combination for vacation
 
1:34 PM
@MwBakker did the situation improve?
 
Has anyone used Xiaomi Airdots?
 
@Mehdi Not really, tried talking to my assigned teacher but he had a heavy concussion and is no longer my assigned teacher
now I have a different assigned teacher but he doesn't know about my project. And even if, I need to focus on my report and turn of the 'care' factor
 
@MwBakker ... how is it that literally nothing is "normal" in your daily routine? XD
 
I am not the cause of his consussion though
 
hahaha
when are you starting the job hunt? (assuming you're graduating as soon as finishing your report?)
 
1:46 PM
there is one more exam in between that process
But I will start right after, and if I can't combine the job with a travel I will save up money for the travel by sidejobs and do this first
 
I see, so you're close, good luck :)
 
thank you (y)
 
Tim
@MwBakker squints eyes
 
shrugs blood covered shoulders
 
2:02 PM
How do I save myself from these bang operators? mapViewBinding!!.zoomIn!!.visibility = View.VISIBLE
They say that I should make the binding object as nullable and make it null in onDestroyView() of a fragment
 
Tim
why would the binding be null
 
don't you check on null at the Getter ?
 
@AdamMc331 holy shit mate how did you snag that gdg title
congrats again!
 
@MwBakker Good point
For some reason, it is also showing that view could be null too, binding.zoomIn!!.visibility
 
Tim
you're doing something wrong
with viewbinding, views can never be null
that's the whole point
 
2:10 PM
^ , you check if the property bound to a view is null but the starting point is the View is not null
 
Tim
private var _binding: ResultProfileBinding? = null
// This property is only valid between onCreateView and
// onDestroyView.
private val binding get() = _binding!!

override fun onCreateView(
    inflater: LayoutInflater,
    container: ViewGroup?,
    savedInstanceState: Bundle?
): View? {
    _binding = ResultProfileBinding.inflate(inflater, container, false)
    val view = binding.root
    return view
}

override fun onDestroyView() {
    _binding = null
}
copied from the docs, it's not hard
 
The thing is that I am on a weird side
because I did the same with another fragment and it works flawlessly
 
it's weird enough Tim wrote something related to binding right here in R15
 
Tim
viewbinding is nice
databinding is written version of satan's speech
 
view is a form of data
 
2:15 PM
@Tim GIST
viewBinding is ugly
 
Tim
too much work
 
let me rephrase this out to prevent a flame: the concept behind viewBinding is an improvement . It's verbose execution is below acceptable levels and has +1 loc than the already verbose findViewById
 
@MwBakker Is rhere a right way of using data binding?
 
...there is not one subject R15 agree's on with me, is there?
 
Or are you talking about view binding?
 
2:22 PM
Da hell am I supposed to do? I am doing like they said
 
I don't know about ViewBinding enough to help you here, sorry
 
Tim
the issue with findViewById is that you don't know if the view actually exists
 
idk. i fell in love with kotlinX synthethics and i won't move from there
 
Tim
and you can reference views from other layouts
 
Hey all! I'm looking for a summer internship preferably relating to cyber security. If not, general programming, DB, and/or server administration would be great too. I'm 17 and can travel (US only) however ideally I'm looking for something in NY (city or nearby). If your company has an internship program or would be interested in creating one, please ping me or email me (email in my profile). I have previous work experience and multiple references. My website is joshbrown.info. Thanks!
 
2:24 PM
may i suggest some padding on the portfolio? at 4K everything looks incredibly big.
 
@MwBakker Hey, I finally got your message on insta!
 
@JBis is this written in Vue?
 
Took me only 3 weeks to stumble upon the "accept new messages" thingy in insta
 
I just thought you hated me in private
 
@JBis @AdamMc331 could be an OkSolution for your request.
 
2:26 PM
@MwBakker website? I used no frameworks for it. All custom :)
 
@JBis "created this website" does not load for me
 
@CptEric sure. Meant to add that.
 
also scrolling all the way down a lot could trigger portfolio load
 
quite nice experiences on a 17yo age (y)
 
i like the library backend. pretty nice
 
2:27 PM
@MwBakker hmm. I'll look into.
ROs, any chance this can be pinned for a couple days? If not, np.
 
also if you add all those things to stack overflow's "profile", it can generate a resume for you
in the menawhile you don't build yours
saved my lazy ass some times
 
@MwBakker thanks
@MwBakker hmm, what browser may I ask?
 
while looking at a project, pressing back changes the URL but the project remains open
> we, the testers.
 
Y'all great at finding bugs, thanks! I'll fix that too soon.
 
2:53 PM
@JBis Edge :D
 

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