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4:21 AM
@Mehdi wheres zuccs source with your changes (star thing)?
 
 
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6:36 AM
For some reason, I don't enjoy GTA anymore. It seems so dull
The only last GTA I enjoyed was San Andreas and the only last GTA I truly played
 
Try moving to a place where some elements of GTA are not part of your day to day life
Running over people has been a lot more fun since I left Delhi and stopped getting run over
 
Tom
6:53 AM
o/
 
LIES
 
7:34 AM
Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Morning Everyone!!!!!!! :D
 
@RaghavSood wait wat
That's a lot of O's today, bet womper is extremely happy
Good day womp
 
I've come to a realization, and that made me think
 
7:53 AM
@TaseerAhmad what
@W0MP3R also what
 
I've been in this spiral/ball of negativity about my job but.... looking at it objectively, my job is not a bad one :S
 
There is only one solution
Hostile takeover
Preferably with swords
Or poison
Maybe goats
 
you are forgetting my weapon of choice
The Mighty Shovel
 
Burial comes after the murder, let's not get ahead of ourselves
 
:(
 
8:09 AM
Patience is a virtue
 
Burial is an option
 
Yes, burial alive even
Just to send a message
Unfortunately, W0MP tends to be mostly niec, so I doubt she'd go for that
 
o/
 
You could also turn the body into a humancopter and ride it away
 
D:
asdfasdas
the database doesn't want to sync
TT^TT
 
8:17 AM
Have you tried asking it politely?
 
aaah... the caches were messing with me
 
8:45 AM
Heeeeelloooooooooo people
 
9:07 AM
Hiya Nyakouai!!!!! :D
 
Hiya W0mpy
 
Online since 14-01-2020 09:20 (UTC). Running on develop@355b70d. Uptime: 0h
 
Hello everyone!
 
9:23 AM
Anybody got experience with XPath? \
 
moderately
 
I am trying to get an element based on its HelpText
Don't ask why, but the uid's suck, the elements don't all have uid's or names
 
So what's the issue? in the navigation of the tree or to get the actual value?
 
well it keeps giving back null
and I am in doubt if my XPath query is correct
windowRequest.FindElement(By.XPath("/*[@HelpText='Omschrijving van de aanvraagdefinitie']"));
 
can you replace "/*" by "//*"? to see if you actually have that in the document (just to test)
 
9:33 AM
Greetings!
i took a udemy course on python and ml new year offers are good very cheap. check them out if case you are interested
 
@Mehdi it worked! Thank you
 
udemy is on sale?
 
They are always on sale
 
yes new year offers are great
 
credit card sweats nervoulsy
 
9:39 AM
How is the discord server of R15 doing?
And meet up: when
 
first, where?
 
@MwBakker some days is dead, some days someone says something
some days I get bored and I send some rpg meme
 
Don't talk about sales please :( I'm trying super hard not to look
 
How important is it to learn webservices?
 
@Mehdi I could come to Berlin, or we could meet in Hamburg which be at centre
 
9:43 AM
oh yusss
i remembered my udemy password
 
I would also love to go to one of those abandoned building parties you told me about Mehdi
 
@MwBakker discord link plz
 
I dont have it no more :(
 
Jul 1 '19 at 13:13, by Tim Castelijns
@MarkO'Sullivan bro I'm no discord nerd but I made a server for when the apocalypse happens https://discord.gg/qxe6dEk
 
both options can work for me mwb
I'll have to ask around for those, since that place was supposed to close end of '19
 
9:45 AM
nicenice, we can pick a date where as many of this room possible are included
We can use datepicker or such
 
I have no permission
 
hmmmm
can you check again?
 
@bluetoothfx buy her flowers
 
Tim
@TaseerAhmad what is webservices?
 
probably means developing REST apis
 
9:49 AM
oh yes, RESTful web-services
 
any good udemy course?
 
@W0MP3R what are your interests?
 
I only use it for Blender things and those where good :3
dunno, Unity and c#?
 
@W0MP3R 🌸🌷🌺🌻🌼
 
i'm trying to squeze myself into that world
so pretty
 
9:52 AM
What world? The world of being not paid?
(Aka videogames?)
 
eh
 
Tim
I did parttime backend development for a few years and it helps me a lot when I am working on an app that consumes a backend
 
i was going to say something baaad but I'm going to stop myself xD
but yes, videogames :D
 
You can, I crawled back to videogames
 
bad about uh.. where i am now
 
9:54 AM
I'm moving to Canada to work in that field again. Literally chose to change continent to return to that soooo...
Ah
Well, good luck xD
 
what about some nice courses Nyakouai?
 
yeah, I'm trying, but i don't think it will happen
 
Nice courses about?
 
i'll be forever trapped in this... thing
 
game development
 
9:55 AM
That's pretty broad. Depends on what you want to do?
 
I've always wanted to discover that, but always stopped after 1 week of "unity vs unreal" :D
 
Tim
latest drama
 
Which is a stupid debate, because they're used for different things
 
Tim
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Anton MenshovLess than a month ago, there was some settling of the incident with firing Monica. It's obvious that there was not a lot of approval from the community on the chosen by SE course of action, and on the settlement as well. Today, we are seeing a new wave of SE actions targeted on work with the com...

 
dunno, right now I'm open to everything D:
 
Tim
9:58 AM
don't get (back) into android dev
 
nooo
 
Tim
@MuratKaragöz see above
 
@Nyakouai more about discovery of the field, way of functioning of game physics etc..
 
I don't like Android Dev
 
Mobile, Unity is the big thing. Easy to learn, hard to master, you can do a lot by yourself, but it's pretty limited
 
9:58 AM
(please don't kick me out)
 
It's useful to understand how a game engine works basically
Unreal, bigger prod, harder to learn, more tools. Plus it's the entry way to the company specific game engines in companies. So if you want to do computer games development one day, you want Unreal
 
cries in Unity
 
And in each, you have so many aspects... You can make do in Unity by just dev-ing, if you know how to doodle stuff
Unity is honestly really beginners friendly
 
@W0MP3R try databinding
 
You can learn a lot on your own, and they're ton of tutos online
 
10:02 AM
We (@CptEric and me) did a very basic (and weird looking) greek "rpg" game a while back for school. That was fun :D
 
(Me I did Unity to Unreal)
Well, that's how you start right ^^
 
Tim
@W0MP3R me neither that's why I said it
 
I have a WIP JS card game that i'm thinking of porting to Unity 'cause u know.... JS is weird
 
Dunno what type of card game, but remember to start small and manageable
 
@MwBakker i've seen this stuff a lot around here but I don't know what that is :S
 
Tim
10:04 AM
it is the cancer of android
 
Taking on big scope monster projects is the best way to get demotivated
 
oh yeah, right now it's just drawing cards and discarding stuff
 
@Nyakouai thanks, so when the motivation of learning completely different kicks in, I'll go with unreal and skip the week of "what should I start learning" :D
@Tim cough, helsinki AI course, cough
 
@Tim xD
 
Tim
I have it still open bro elementsofai.com
 
10:06 AM
did you leave the home page yet? :D
 
@Mehdi "Unity is beginners friendly" > "I'll go with Unreal"... Ok sure xD Unreal has some nice built-in tutos, form what I've heard
 
@W0MP3R in short: it's a form of distributing workload over UI dedicated cases and data processing cases the right way
 
Tim
nop
 
@Tim this your most angry description so far :D <- * Mehdi smile *
 
I laughed XD
 
Tim
10:09 AM
funny, I didn't even try to make it angry. Just objective truth
 
@Nyakouai since it's just for a hobby, I don't wanna have to switch technologies to a more professional one if I "ever" become proficient in it XD
 
Ah, also, last argument: Unity is C#, Unreal is C++
So if you already know one...
 
I know Java so I probably know C# XD, but I'd rather do C++ for a change
 
~(-.-~)
 
@Tim Tim's passive aggressive 'objective truth' ™
 
eli
10:15 AM
Hi
 
which game engine are you going to use in your new job Nyakouai?
 
Unreal mostly
But as I said, differents gameplay require differents engine, so it can be changed depending on the project. Unreal is just the common middle ground nowadays
 
Should I get this? -> udemy.com/course/…
 
This was the most starred message last year on this day:
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OMFG I AM AN IDIOT
 
that's nice, good luck! sounds like fun (not sure in reality if that is indeed as fun)
@TaseerAhmad check the curriculum and see if you like the content?
 
10:25 AM
It looks alright, but I don't know if it's enough for starting in backend
 
it's never enough, but you have to start somewhere
 
10:41 AM
@Tim lovely, getting my cup of coffee for that sweet drama
 
 
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12:02 PM
USA need two iphones investigated because of a terrorist attack, wants the phones to be unlocked
Apple says they won't do it, because hacking software may get into the wrong hands. I can understand this but why won't they just send the phone to Apple HQ and let them unlock it and send it back
Or would it be that they have no info at all on how to unlock it at apple HQ
 
12:34 PM
@MwBakker Apple can't unlock the phone
Look at their security docs release
What the FBI is suggesting they do is build in a backdoor to future releases of their software so law enforcement agencies could access the data.
 
You wouldn't want that ofc
But you would want them to try to unlock and keep the mechanism for it to themselves.. if possible
Previous time FBI was able to hack it and keep the method to themselves if I read the story right
 
Tim
they should hire a TV nerd, they can hack any phone in 3 seconds
 
No you wouldn't. The only way to do that would be security through obfuscation.
@MwBakker Yes, this was a bug that was patched.
@Tim Usually its "any phone (thats not an iphone)"
 
So there is absolutely no way to unlock the phone without keeping everybody satisfied?
Or is it unable, period?
 
Ribbit
 
12:39 PM
That we know of (unless a bug is found, that if apple new about they would patch immediately) Apple is unable to unlock these phones. However, they could possibly release a forced over the air update to all phones that includes a backdoor that would allow them to access. But most likely that would only work for future phones.
@MwBakker Idk what they did with their security release but heres a shittier version of it
Thank god for github
 
The fact is, if they could unlock it, theoretically, anyone could, which is not good. So that's not good. Keeping the method to yourself (obfuscation as JBis pointed) is only good as long as the secret is kept - so it's very bad.
 
Tim
"this security doc that says we cannot remotely unlock your apple phone can be trusted" - apple
 
So either you have a phone with a shitty security, or you have one that follow security standards but that you can not hack for obvious reasons
 
this guy tried to sounds like a responsible adult, he got crushed by downvotes XD meta.stackexchange.com/a/342052/622249
 
12:54 PM
"... which is not good. So that's not good." I'm sleepy
 
Tim
stackpocalypse is happening and one person saw it coming, bless his genius
 
who?
 
Bob
 
ofc it was Bob
 
Or at least, it should be their secret name
 
12:57 PM
why i'm even asking
you are making fun of me... I should get mad
but Bob makes me laugh
so I can't get mad
Lunch Time
 
Don't think SO will go down
 
ah, this is turning into js chat discussions
 
@W0MP3R No, I was making a private joke. Cause I'm listening to you and BB. Cause I care about you two. Your distrust is hurting muh feelingz :'(
 
@Tim it's okay, the new CEO will save the ship, he said he liked computers as a kid
 
wait theres a new ceo?
 
1:13 PM
relatively new, maybe 3 or 4 months?
when do you usually use tuples as methods / function return types?
 
I swear I'm not trolling; when it's relevant?
I did it once or twice when looking up in lists I needed to make connections between
But I can't see a recurring case where you would use it
 
Tim
@JBis yea this guy posted a blog and then never said anything anywhere again
 
@Tim Proof that he knows what's best for him regarding the community right now: duck and lay low
 
@Nyakouai I'm asking because i tend to use them for when I don't wanna create a coherent data structure as a single point of return
but I always wondered whether this is a legitime use
 
1:29 PM
If you don't need to expand on that coherent data structure, then yes, it's taught as a good practice nowadays
The moment you need a method on that data struct, it becomes a class or whatever you need in your language
 
yeah, I guess, btw - java doesn't provide a built-in Tuple datastructure
 
1:50 PM
TIL that EncryptedSharedPreferences exist
Part of androidx.Security
Also, people still use AsyncTask, even after its deprecation
 
@Nyakouai I'm so sorry TT^TT
How can I earn you forgiveness?
 
It's alright, don't worry. I don't have a bad list. I do have a garden tho
 
🙇‍♀️🙇‍♀️
 
2:17 PM
heyo
 
Hiya bB!!!!! :D
 
Hello
 
heya wompy ^^
heya nya ^^
idk why I told you that brb
 
Cause you were missing us?
(I'm betting on a coffee break)
 
nono the edit
poo and coffee yeah
 
2:20 PM
Ah, snap
 
in case you didn't know btw you can see message history
(when a message has been edited)
 
I had never tried, but yeah, I was doing that :P
 
haha yeah
okay
im tired as hell today
need double coffee
 
hey bb
 
i was pinged
 
2:30 PM
Demons, 500 B.C: From the depths, I've been summoned forth
D@emon, 2020: I was pinged
 
@Nyakouai In one of the books in the Threadbear series, they speak of the language of the daemons, the "true tongue", and it goes something like this
> Ent mayne, par an the seas arg sea, char twin stars arg thee, par an thesis bracketa…
And I didn't place it until I've listened to the audio version of that
 
:O
 
I had to read it twice or thrice before I got (I think) all the hidden gems
Or before I read it correctly, should I say
 
i almost read it aloud but it clicked in the end xD
 
@Nyakouai daemonspaek is tricky, indeed
That they are called daemons and this is their language is one of the best easter eggs I've encountered in any book 😃
 
2:39 PM
i dont get it
 
Int main ( arg c, char** ... andsoonandsoon
 
Erigo, think of our friend who liked ponies and his "english" and that's the written stuff... but way better
 
@MwBakker ey dude!
@W0MP3R you have a friend who likes ponies
and it's a he
Are you friends with a brony?
 
friend is a very lose term
colleage maybe?
 
brony?
MLP furry fanatic?
 
2:49 PM
it's been ages since i've spoken with him
he liked Rainbow Dash from MLP
but yes, I've been friends with a brony
 
I have a flutter shy on my desk. Maybe 2. Not sure what the other one is :)
 
Flutter shy is so cute
 
tf are they talking about? O_o
 
(and those are the two ponies I know by name)
 
My daughter gave them to me for valentine's day
 
2:52 PM
also, Hiya cM!!!!! :D
 
Heya, Womps!
Can't stay. Gotta go do an interview
Talk to you peeps later
 
Good luck!
Break a leg and all that
 
I'm the interviewer but thanks, luck will still help
 
xD
 
@MadaraUchiha daemons are hackers?
 
2:54 PM
@MuratKaragöz They're demons
 
@W0MP3R :O
gross ahha
 
whyy??
 
they freak me out
 
I'm not going to stop being friend with someone just because they like that show D:
ooh
ok
 
I saw an article recently that was like "Creators of My Little Pony beg 'Bronies' to not make sexualized fan-art of the newest character that is inspired by a dying childs MakeAWish wish"
 
2:57 PM
D:
 
and literally the same day there was fan art
 
>.<
 
Ahaha, gross just as you said
 
yeah haha
 

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