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12:27 AM
LIES
 
wipes away tears from Dave being rude with all the $$$ he just found
 
are you cashing out?
 
Of course not, the sane thing to do when you discover free money is to invest it into extremely volatile, possibly valueless assets
 
well, time to leave the office...tomorrow I get to figure out if my refactoring broke anything
 
Why wait till tomorrow, setup pager duty now
 
12:33 AM
pager?
this code is far from ready to push to prod, if that's what you are talking about
anyways, I'm out
gnite
 
 
2 hours later…
3:02 AM
!cat
 
Unknown command '!cat'
 
sudo !cat
 
 
1 hour later…
4:04 AM
 
 
2 hours later…
5:38 AM
Good Morning !
 
5:55 AM
morning
 
6:32 AM
any python experts here.
 
seen all the movies and the tv show
 
morn
 
6:45 AM
@CptEric :XD
 
and one of the o nstage musicals
 
7:12 AM
o/
 
7:37 AM
Good morning everyone. :)
 
@Raghunandan I used it in the past
 
@TimCastelijns , How are you bro?
 
@RakeshKumar not so bad and you?
 
I am good
Good to hear that then. :)
Have you worked on XMPP?
 
7:41 AM
no
 
@RakeshKumar i did
whats up?
 
How can make custom Type of Message?
 
Like, can do type:chat, group, normal, headline and error
but how can make custom type
I am not getting way
 
yeah you can, xmpp is build in order to support that
also type is arbitrary, so it can be whatever you want
 
7:45 AM
How can make that programmatically in android?
 
lol
what are you using for the client?
i used to work with aSmack
 
I am also using aSmack
 
noice
these are predefined types
hm i cant really remember whats the name of the listener for messages
 
Yes, that's why asking how can make custom type?
 
damn
i did this like 3 years ago, i can take a look when i get home
 
7:49 AM
I can see only these predefined types there and trying to make it custom
but not getting way
@IvanMilisavljevic , No problem bro. :)
 
yeah, you wont be able to receive custom types on the client
its hardcoded in the smack
 
I don't have details with me to create that in xml though on server
 
aSmack is good but is somehow blackboxed
you can go with type=message, and have arbitary fileds representing actuall message type
like have couple of different messages in the system
something like system_messages, event_messages, conversation_messages
etc etc
 
iOS are sending type in particular case and told me to do same in android
as already having an option to add extension to do this thing
@TimCastelijns bro, Not so bad. But bit a bad?
 
8:07 AM
yeah
in the middle of a heat wave
the hottest ever for our country
last night I slept in a bucket because I melted
 
Here also too hot these days
lol
 
nerds
 
\o
 
8:40 AM
o/
Hope everyone is coping ok with the heat
Thankfully not too warm here
 
am dead
 
33˚ inside currently
 
@TimCastelijns had some debugging issues with python scripts where they would pass tests individually but failed when run as a whole.
 
ok
sounds like teste are not isolated
 
Rob
@TimCastelijns And outside?
 
8:49 AM
31˚ 🤷‍♂️
 
Rob
Can we trade places? 30c is ideal
 
special kind of people
 
what's the humidity over there
 
yes tests are not isolated. having a hard time finding the exact cause
 
8:53 AM
> Model F
xD
 
Rob
@TimCastelijns Now? Not sure. But in general it's pretty humid
It's raining now... so... probably pretty high
 
hmm yeah that is usually a fair indication
 
Rob
But I feel like I'm going crazy. In another room, someone was complaining it was too hot... at 22c... in summer..
 
We bought a wardrobe at ikea yesterday
it was 35°
 
what a pussy
 
Rob
8:55 AM
Like... even Siberia gets up to 40c
 
basically I was dead
 
@TimCastelijns lol
@Rob shay that is winter temperature
 
Rob
Exactly
22c is jumper weather
 
@TimCastelijns XD
 
oh you are from down under no wonder you like 30 degree
 
Rob
8:58 AM
You'd think so... but I'm almost as far away from the equator as you can get
And if I had a choice in the matter... negative 10-20 to +25-40 is my ideal range
Anything in-between is miserable rain and wet and...ugh
 
10-25 i would prefer
anything - and i am iced
 
In Australia rain would fall to the sky, right?
 
Rob
Right now it's 13c and I'm scared to walk the 10minutes home because it's too cold
Need to get the friday beer courage in me
@TaseerAhmad I see you've been reading up on Australia!
 
yeah we also discover today that australia exist
 
can we ban rob
 
9:03 AM
@Rob interesting if you think 13 degree is cold then how are you comfortable with negative 10-20?
lmao ask tim
well no heat wave here at least
how long since do you have this heat wave in europe?
 
Rob
@ColdFire Because the wetness makes things feel colder than they are. And we don't have clothing/insulation that deals with colder weather
In general, a thin sweater/jumper is as heavy as it gets
 
oh true same here
 
Rob
Our 'snow gear' can maybe deal with -10c if you're lucky
 
my sweater wasn't able to help me with Eu weather
 
Rob
@MuratKaragöz Please don't :(
 
9:14 AM
begging for mercy is a bannable offense
we don't accept weakness
6
 
unless you become more active in the room, we need active people to make a strong cultural stronghold out of this room
 
Rob
@TimCastelijns What about imploring?
 
> Because I'm weak
Time to ban Tim
 
pointing out inconsistencies in RO statements is a bannable offense
 
9:30 AM
that show is so good
 
#relatable
 
Rob
Hmm, I've put that show off for a while... but seems I'll need to look into 'acquiring' it
 
This is a great proposal because it could even be automated. We could call it "Hot Meta Posts". — Jeremy Banks yesterday
lol
 
Rob
Jeremy is certainly the master of quips ;)
 
9:44 AM
@TimCastelijns could be fun to have this guy on the room XD
 
yeah. Apparently this guy is the master of quips
 
ah quips.. quips, that's good to be a master of quips, so what is a quip?
> a witty remark
 
Rob
It's a misspelling of woops
 
this word is so 2004...
 
it had also never been said before in this room
that's a good indication that it's uncool
 
9:58 AM
how is "quips" even remotely misspelled as "woops"?
 
I thought the same but I guess the keys are somewhat close
 
yeah if the keyboard is up-side down I can see that
 
@murat OOOOF
@ that tesla
never do tesla options it'll screw you
should have done fb instead
hahahhaah someone in the comments said
 
Long time no see, everyone :3
 
"model f"
heya toracode!
 
10:08 AM
@TimCastelijns lots of not fine words
The irony, I didn't flag to have this featured! — Yvette Colomb ♦ yesterday
 
model wat
 
model citizen
 
^
 
nah, let me know if we change the context
 
There is never a context
 
This was the most starred message last year on this day:
 
I'm new to Ethereum and for learning purposes,How to Ethereum wallet address generated by derived ECDSA Public key in Android .
Any one please help me , Thank you for Advance
 
That has nothing to do with Android, it's just plain hashing in Java/Kotlin
I imagine you'll probably want to use web3j, it has all the functions you need
 
10:43 AM
@MehdiB. quora.com/… not sure how true tho i liked someone finally tried to fix the problem from the root rather than do bs as always
 
That is actually impressive
 
what is impressive?
 
Their solution to the problem,
 
oh you read the answer
 
@ColdFire lots of truth in that but unfair to say that it's all thanks to the king, the public opinion had always been against those
morocco is a very diverse country, (romans, moors, arabs, berbers (indigenous), sub-saharian africans etc...)
 
10:59 AM
what do you identify as?
 
this mix already created a fertile ground for open mindedness and tolereance
@Ahmad tbh moroccan :D
 
:]
 
but I'm 50% berber :D
 
nice!
 
11:11 AM
@MehdiB. oh i see
 
Apparently, my country blocked Tor download
 
lol vpn it
 
that's bearable. i have no access to youtube in my office. I am bench for a nearly a month now. i can do anything here. no software installation allowed. still people say why are you cribbing about this when you are getting paid for doing nothing
 
go learn something new then
 
how?
 
11:15 AM
@Raghunandan go read oAuth specification
 
google
whatever new you want to learn
perhaps some new language
 
i do not have access to google also
 
what the actual fuck
 
stckoverlow somehow is not blocked
 
what do you have access to?
 
11:16 AM
and gmail and linkedin
 
why do you even have internet access?
 
@Raghunandan what 😂
 
but the access is limited to only 30 to 40 mins per day
 
might as well get you connected to a local network
 
so basically people invent knowledge there?
 
11:17 AM
oh man i would show middle finger to that company and switch
 
@Raghunandan dial up lol :D
 
i am thinking of resigning. hehe ivan will do
 
what kind of office is that?
 
it's called mindtree pvt ltd
larson and turbo just took over with majority of the shares
its a service based company.
 
damn
 
11:19 AM
their website doesn't even load
what would you expect from a company blocking access to google
 
what website does not load?. that's strange. it loads for me
lol
 
If I were you I would fk their company up
 
xD
 
What is better to pause/resume a Thread
Atomicboolean or calling Thread.wait() and notify()?
AtomicBoolean with an empty while loop
 
11:23 AM
depends, multi threaded or not?
 
single thread
 
then go for sleep
 
wait and notify
 
need reasons
 
wait and notify are useful for multi threaded to release the lock
whereas sleep doesn't, it just pauses the execution
 
11:25 AM
Can you give more details for the usecase?
 
so depends on your usecase
 
Single Worker Thread doing work, I want to pause/resume
without re-initializing all the needed stuff
it's running in a infinite loop
 
what is the condition you have to put it to sleep or wake it up?
 
pause and resume with flags?
 
basically a button
 
11:27 AM
sleep -> puts thread into sleep for n seconds
wait -> puts thread into pause until notify was sent
Semaphore -> ensures atomic access to the variables
 
There is this Semaphore Class
 
oh sleep and wait!
 
you can always let your thread and add a condition on the resource you expect to change
 
for your usecase you should use wait, since thats exactly what you want to do
 
while (condition) { run() }
 
11:28 AM
you want to pause the execution until something is happened
 
Not sure what the difference between wait() and running empty while loop is
 
running empty while loop is fugly
 
wait releases the resources locked by the thread
a while loop doesn't
 
and why would you use a hack if you have proper solution for the problem
 
@MehdiB. oh, really?
 
11:32 AM
yeah
 
that's a good point
 
it releases the entire lock
so be careful if you need atomic operations
 
so basically with while condition, your thread is pretty much running, just not executing the logic of the thread
whereas with wait, it got paused entirely, until you wake it up and ask it to put back the lock on the resources
 
what if there is no memory for the resources to be reallocated?
what happens then?
 
and fun use-case for Semaphores:
If you use OkHttpClient.Authenticator you can implement atomic token refresh using Semaphores
 
11:37 AM
nice
I just block the main thread in my token-adding interceptor
 
xD
 
anybody watched memento?
 
is it good?
 
11:50 AM
it's in the top 250, so yeah
you have to watch it twice to understand it
 
oh damn
we had a bollywood movie inspired by it
i should watch it then
 
Bedankt broer Tim
 
?
 
heellllooo o/
 
@AdamMc331 genius you figured it out quite fast
@AdamMc331 absolutely
 
11:54 AM
feel free to try out the kick-mute button adam
 
he already did
timmy
that reminds me can RO kick mute other RO's?
 
@ColdFire google translate says it means "thanks brother tim" in dutch
 
hmm
 
I went with wait/notify and a pause flag
seems cleaner to me
 
you used wait and notify but why the pause flag?
 
11:57 AM
why do you respond with hmm to perfectly clear sentences CF?
 
mehdi that's just the indian way of responding okay!
:)
 
The while loop needs to know when to pause
 
Le Tour de France someone?
 
understood.
 
@Raghunandan oh okay, that's pretty nice, I didn't know. I thought it meant "I'm not really convinced" or "I'm thinking about it"
 
12:01 PM
java.lang.IllegalMonitorStateException: object not locked by thread before notify()
wat
I have it inside a synchronized block
 
synchoized(object){
wait()
}
object.notify()
 
I have both in synchronized block
wait wat
you are not calling .wait on object
?
 
@MehdiB. something wrong with that?
 
@MuratKaragöz pseudo, yes you should call object.wait
 
does not look pseudo to me, but ok
 
12:06 PM
why is it so difficult to find out when the keyboard is visible
 
because android
timmy join the flutter bandwagon @MarkO'Sullivan will be happy to help you :D
 
@TimCastelijns keyboard is like a external service
android is actually doing IPC when you type
 
ok
 
How to delete DataBinding from JetPack?
Like completely delete it as if it never existed
 
12:17 PM
what do you mean?
like exclude it from the deps?
 
No, like delete it from the face of Android development
Like, why XML is directly interacting with your java code
Let XML do it's thing...
 
is that to answer a SO question taseer? :D
 
clone AOSP, rebase -i from HEAD to the first commit ever, remove all commits about databinding, finish rebase, git push -f
 
No, I read a SO question and looked at it's XML, in disgust I closed the question tab :P
 
databinding is not in AOSP
 
12:21 PM
I feel like Google does not know any better solution and they are just testing new things out in a bad way
 
that simplifies the process
 
got it working \o/
 
Somebody needs to reset Android
 
@MuratKaragöz *inserts noice gif
 
UIKeyboardDidShowNotification cya later I'm moving to iOS
 
12:38 PM
lol
 
1:10 PM
@ColdFire yes join Flutter community :D
 
Why flutter 🤨🤔
 
1:36 PM
o/
 
@bluetoothfx if a genie showed up and asked you to pick either a cup of coffee or a flute, what would you choose?
 
@MehdiB. What do I do with Nashorn?
 
Ribbit
 
No.
 
1:55 PM
@TaseerAhmad reset nuke
 
2:13 PM
o/
 
@TaseerAhmad are you asking what is it used for?
 
Yes, also how can it benefit me? What can I make something using it?
 
you could learn about ASTs, how a Javascript code can be run on the JVM, meaning how can it be evaluated as a Java code
what you can build with it, could be a code sandbox (like codility, hackerrank etc..), where you only have 1 JVM based backend
yet allowing people to code on JS as well as Java
you could also try to do static code analysis to make sure that users don't create infinite loops that will crash your code sandbox
 
That means I could create a Kotlin compiler for phones?
Like, some user write their code on the phone, all the code is transferred to website or something where it converts, idk something like this
 
Kotlin runs on the JVM, so you don't need to do much, however JS doesn't, so you could have this phone programming game support 4 languages: Java, Kotlin, Scala (all 3 run on the JVM) and JS which gets evaluated by Nashorn then compiled into Java Byte Code
 
2:25 PM
programming.....game?
IS THIS A GAME TO YOU
IS MY CAREER A GAME TO YOU TASEER
 
"Play it like it's the last game of your life"
Nice, Mehdi, I will slowly start learning Nashorn and then eventually make some mobile based compiler for fun
 
it's just for fun taseer, chances are that you'll never use it on a real context, it's just nice/fun to know
 
chats all dead
hurry up and get in @Dave
 
A relatively costlier approach of solving this isolation problem (prevent infinite loops made by 1 user to affect all the users) would be to spin up a container per user (I think the smallest jre docker image is 50mb of size and suppose you give it 128mb of ram), which means you could run 100 users per 16gb ram / 20gb disk machine
 
2:48 PM
@MehdiB. flute may be... xD
because coffee this days kicking out by environment
 
o/
 
3:00 PM
Good morn everyone! (Good afternoon? IDK)
Happy Friday too
 
3:34 PM
sup
 
@Ahmad listening to BTS while eating breakfast, lol
 
yo sup ahmad
 
sup
 
3:54 PM
o/
 
Do you ever see a really fat person and get instantly disgusted and feel super bad for them
and then guilty at how repulsed you felt
 
Both, yeah. Eek
 

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