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1:25 AM
hello
 
Greetings, failed-intelligence-agent
 
failed
I do my job well
 
LIES
 
Does it matter if you know a camera is watching you if you can't stop it from watching you?
 
Yes, because you can adjust your behaviour and cover up the camera accordingly
My laptop cameras are all shuttered
And phones stay away from me unless in active use
Trust no one
 
1:31 AM
what about the street camera
 
None on my street here
NZ is still somewhat nice in that way
 
are you sure
 
A little bit behind on the surveillance train
I'm sure they'll catch up eventually tho
Considering my street is just this building and a bunch of trees, yes
 
Maybe there are cameras. Who knows.
 
I do
 
1:34 AM
Like the fish, who doesn't know he swims in a bowl.
 
The whole point of not trusting others means you verify
And any sane person looks for cameras around them
It's not paranoia if they're out to get you
 
XD
 
1:59 AM
I have acquired chicken nuggets and fries
They have been consumed
 
 
1 hour later…
3:34 AM
lmao
after about like 2 months i have switched back to google. DuckDuckGo just can't compete
 
 
3 hours later…
Tom
6:48 AM
o/
 
7:01 AM
hi
 
apk as a zip file did it compressing content? or didnt?
 
APK is an archive, not a zip - the resources are compressed, but other stuff might not be
Not sure what the latest format is like
But a few years back, only the resources were compressed
Although zipalign could compress everything a bit
 
7:19 AM
Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Morning Everyone!!!!!!!!! :D
 
GM
My layoutmanager isn't playing nice with FragementActivity and I'm not sure why
 
It's because you're a bad person
 
why didn't I think of that
 
Because you're a bad person
 
oh yeah
 
 
1 hour later…
8:26 AM
Morning all
 
morning
 
8:47 AM
@CupOfJava Game Master?
 
Yes. GM = Gamer Master; GM != Good Morning
 
\p
 
9:09 AM
o/
 
9:20 AM
Greetings!.
 
o/
 
Greetings, people-who-are-not-being-forced-to-debug-prod-issues-and-being-unable-to-buy-pillows-as-a-result
 
@RaghavSood atleast you can debug
i had to do some crazy jedi stuff yesterday.
no wiresharks were harmed.
 
Who needs to debug? Just let the users fix the errors.
 
9:39 AM
@Tim sorry, Tim
I have been caught up yesterday with some Christmas shopping
 
oh shit
I should do some Christmas shopping
 
"assert" or "if" to validate user input?
 
Tim
no problem.
 
asserted
 
Text me on discord next time
 
9:45 AM
@OrestisZekai welcome! please start by reading the rules of the room: room-15.github.io
 
@grrigore what is 'hots'
 
Hello everyone! I have read and understood the rules
 
heroes of the storm
 
Thank you Orestis and welcome! :)
 
Anyone adding new features to prod app while the ios team still waits for the mac to arrive?
6
 
10:02 AM
lol
 
start the hate
 
No.
We accept people from all walks of life
Except the PHP guys, fuck 'em
8
 
(walks away)(starts running)
 
Tom
Aoc Elves are retarded
 
D:
poor elves TT^TT
 
10:14 AM
@Tom be nice
 
Be more like Tim, Tom, don't be a Raghav
 
@CupOfJava this notation gave me PTSD
 
PTSD gives me notations
 
Tim
nice hat, orestis
 
ios team = that poor guy who started reading swift tutorials last week
 
10:28 AM
you don't really like him much, do you? :D
 
Naah, he's ok. On the one hand I feel sorry for him, but if it was not for him, I would be the one reading swift tutorials :D
 
y'all having hats while I'm here searching for some veggie noodles recipe
do noodles work with rice? I got some vegetable mix that also contains rice
 
Tim
10:44 AM
ew no
 
:(
 
Just get rice noodles
 
@RaghavSood Egg noodles. Egg.
 
Rice noodles are the best. Now I want Thai food.
 
hue hue
 
11:01 AM
Is there a way to make a void run on the second time it's called? instead of the first....
 
Tim
no
change your logic
 
if (firstTime) {secondtTime = true } else if (secondTime) {//code}
I know, right?
 
I was worried that would be the answer I'm working with an enum, so it's either on or off but I wanted to prolong the switch between the two. I tried Thread.sleep() but that doesn't workout well
well UP, NONE, and DOWN
 
also set firstTime to false
What are you trying to do?
enter rubber duck mode
 
hide or show the menu based on Swipe_UP or Swipe_DOWN
 
11:11 AM
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Q: Hide/Show Toolbar programmatically on CoordinatorLayout

ArtemWhen I scroll my RecycleView ToolBar hide or show (with animation). How I can return ToolBar back programmatically?

 
thanks, I'll look into it
 
well I already have it done I'm just looking to double the activity it takes to trigger
 
add more trigger events?
 
Now I know the reason why the images are not loading, there is a fault in International Submarine Cable AAE-1
Was wondering why my internet was severely slow
 
11:19 AM
I'm going to look at RecyclerView Docs. I'm sure there is something there that can tell how much of the view was consumed before restoring the menu
 
you can use this to highlight words
makes it easier when you wanna look through long text
 
thank you, you've been really helpful
 
no problem, glad I could help :)
 
12:55 PM
@JayanDev you don't currently meet the requirements for write access here. See our room rules for more info --> room-15.github.io
 
o/
 
tfw letsencrypt emails you about your certificate expiring for that project you bought a domain for but never even put up a landing page, let alone start coding for
 
my ssl expiring at christmas
 
cmmmmmmmmmmmm
> Who said Androider are Indian? Im Malaysian.
lol like the profile description
 
cffffffffffffffffff
 
1:02 PM
CM
you so early today
it's like
overheating
6:00?
 
8
I know, I've already heard about it from customer success who is always here before us
The director of CS came to check my head to make sure I wasn't sick, lol
 
lol
 
Just couldn't sleep and stuck on this python script so I figured I'd just come in
 
Same, couldn't sleep so figured I'd work
Except I don't need to go anywhere to do it
 
same. but then i realized i broke my access card so i had to stay at home until a reasonable time where somebody is in the office
 
1:06 PM
Just break into office
 
so i sit there reading game of thrones for the nth time drinking tea.
@RaghavSood no comment
 
When I left singapore they removed my fingerprint from the front door access panel
But they didn't remove me from the wifi
So I can just let myself in
Because it's a "smart" lock
 
modern solutions require modern problems.
 
We're are in a "secure" floor, with sas airlocks(?) and stuff, to prevent anyone messing with our bugs that handle the electricity. All employees have badge, classic stuf.. Except I'm extremely "static" and keep demagnetizing mine. I've burn 3 in the last month
Modern solution foiled by one slightly electric boy
 
Having the SAS to guard your office seems a wee bit overkill
 
1:19 PM
@codeMagic sup niceeeeeee
 
Is 6 celsius cold?
 
depends. for me it's okay. for southern spain it's armageddon. death of live.
 
No.
 
yes
 
If you're walking in t-shirt under the rain by a windy day, it would be. With a coat on a normal day, no.
 
1:26 PM
0 to 15 Celsius is perfect weather
15-25 is acceptable
 
Subjective
 
25-35 is a minor inconvenience
No
 
Highly subjective
 
You're welcome to be wrong
 
You are stating the range in East-Asia, that doesn't count
 
1:27 PM
xD
 
Asia?
How do you use soy sauce?
 
Try cranking the warmth over 24°C here, and you'll see how many people will be uncomfortable
 
he is a bot so obviously it will be different for raghav
sigh nya
 
Raghav is stating his normal working temperatures, else the bot starts experiencing CPU throttling
 
It's easier to warm up in a cold environment than cool down in a hot one
 
1:28 PM
I've got one red, green and yellow pepper, a carrot, onion, tomatoes and noodles
 
(I'm trying to guess the particular meaning behind this sigh, sir)
 
lol
 
Only if he had a better cooler, he would have been way cooler
 
With 24°C you go spearfishing in Greece. If you wanna perform spearphising though , temperature is just a number
 
@ColdFire Honestly, still perplex. I mean, it could be quite a number of things here. Why's that sigh for?
 
1:39 PM
haha i was expecting you to know about raghv cpu threshold so the sigh
just a joke dont take it seriously nya xD
 
sigh
 
@RaghavSood i concur. with enough mojitos and margaritas, you can cool down as easily.
 
|| raghav
 
LIES.
 
Does anyone here have any experience with how the UX should work with the new Android-Q background location permissions?

I currently have a screen informing users they have to grant access, but its kind of weird that they then get 2 prompts in a row. Any opinions on this?
 
1:45 PM
yeah no much sense, but i guess there is no way arroudn it
 
^
 
have a nice day guys
 
Well in iOS its a weird automatic thing where it asks if you want it to run in the background when it moves to the background, but I'm not sure if there's a reasonable way to replicate that in Android. (or if its even desirable)
 
@IvanMilisavljevic How would you separate these into different repos? gist.github.com/taseer-ahmad/d46b2d0d0ee9787141f55edbc6ffaa54
 
i dont think so
 
1:48 PM
@ColdFire Well, I happen to be dumb sometimes, thought it was better to check just in case :P
 
Or there could be a separate screen between the prompts, but that's pretty ugly too. I hoped maybe there was some consensus on a best-practice for this, but Google doesn't bring anything up.
 
@TaseerAhmad well tbh are you sure you need all of those exposed to the public
maybe single repository with 2 different sources (locationprovider source and satalite data source
or something like that
and hide implementation details in those 2 sources
 
Right now, the data sources are exposing only data using lambda and the repo is only holding their objects
 
@OrestisZekai Why don't the iOS devs to just use macs in the first place...? lol
 
@TaseerAhmad hm i dont like that tbh
source should expose its data to the repo
becuase its repos job to hanlde the business logick
and than expose the single peace of the repo implementaion to the execution unit (usecase/interactor)
 
1:56 PM
@twiz iOS devs = one poor guy who started reading swift tutorials last week lol
 
@IvanMilisavljevic I am stuck because I have to handle the 'register' and 'unregister' data source somewhere, check the gist now, I updated it
Everything is running on Application level context because there is only 1 screen and thats it
 
@OrestisZekai oh... Good reason. lol
 
@TaseerAhmad yeah thats better one thing tho, you should avoid using android deps in the repo, also try exposing raw entities, rather than livedata
and handle the livedata stuff in the interactors
usecase/interactor is execution unit for specific repo implementaion and it should be responsible for the thread handling background operations and stuff
i know its kinda hard to deal with location stuff in the repo since it requieres a lot of Activity/Fragment context stuff
 
On a side-note. As much as I think iPhones are overpriced nonsense, Macs are definitely my preferred dev machines.
 
@twiz I have an iPhone 6s for 5 years and has not been stuck or lagged more that 10 times. In 5 years
 
2:08 PM
@twiz i have to say lol on that
 
Macs are one other story
 
im using a mac for like couple of months now
 
Not saying iPhones are bad exactly, just that they generally cost more and I don't see any reason to prefer them over a decent Android.
 
and its been horrible
 
Why is that?
 
2:11 PM
im used to ctrl c ctrl v
2
in short :D
 
@twiz pricy but worth mho
 
@IvanMilisavljevic That means you are broken, not the mac. lol
 
my ides are handing all the time
 
@twiz do you identify yourself as a hipster dev?
 
im getting the email app opening randomly
also no context switches (like running the same app in two different windows)
cant really alt tab between them
navigating files is painful
 
2:13 PM
I identify as a dev that has used windows, linux, and mac and finds that macs have caused me the fewest headaches.
 
also thermals and i5 with 8 gigs of ram for ~1500+euros is ridiculous
 
Its just the right middle ground of being a stable OS (I don't break it lol) yet still being linux-ish.
 
yeah kinda true
 
@IvanMilisavljevic Try CMD+`
I will agree about navigation. I don't know why they can't just copy windows on that one. haha
 
2:37 PM
@IvanMilisavljevic If you are using desktop keyboard switch the command key to control in system preferences. I do that. Makes life so much easier.
System Preferences > Keyboard > Keyboard Tab > Modifier Keys
@IvanMilisavljevic What do you mean? You can run two instances of the same app. You can also do multiple desktops on a single display.
 
@Nyakouai as a dark theme user the transparence of the png kills me
 
@JBis yeah i kwow
 
@IvanMilisavljevic Yes you can! CMD + Tab, hold down command, use tab to choose your app
 
its not workign for me
for example if i have two browsers opened
it wont alt tab between them
it always shows the first one
also that keyboard mapping its exactly like that
 
App switcher is command tab, if you want to switch windows you can still do that
 
2:42 PM
actually its not because in that case it would break alt tab
 
Control (not command) up arrow
try that
or if you just want to do a single application control down arrow
that will give you your browser window effect
You can adjust the shortcuts in System Preference > Mission Control > Keyboard and Mouse Shortcuts
@IvanMilisavljevic did that work?
You can also try command tilde which may be more similar to windows
 
ivan, why don't you use Spaces?
 
Command tilde === alt tab
|| apple Windows to mac shortcutz
 
[Mac tips for Windows switchers - Apple Support](#)
An error occurred with the request.
 
|| apple Windows to mac shortcuts
 
@CptEric You can have a dark theme?
 
Rlemon's
 
@JBis right, tbh its easier for me to just install ubuntu
 
2:54 PM
Noo......
Try Command Tilde
it'll work
 
@JBis sounds like a mobile game
"Command Tilde, now on iOS and Android"
 
Learn Español in just 30 days!
 
Basic rules about Spanish
1) if you are not mediterranian yourself, you will lose any fight with Spanish girlfriend/friend
2) drink wine from a sack to earn respect, spill wine from the sack and you might get lynched (depending on region)
3) you spend at least 2 houres a day on food
 
@MwBakker Western Europe FTW
Wine from the sack?... Like plastic bag inside a cardboard box?
 
4) barca vs madrid is as important as the stream of water
5) you will enjoy "salvame" (weird tv show) as a guilty pleasure as much as you disgust it and want it to never exist
6) "puede ser mi gran noche" is supposely a line on their national anthem
7) if a two lane road is empty, but there is a car in front of you, make sure you get as tight as possible behind this car
@Nyakouai no it's a leather(?) sack, I dk what it's called @CptEric might know the name
 
3:16 PM
Mw got it right.
except the salvame part
and the sack
 
@MwBakker Ah. You still use leather gourd? Weird
 
we drink from a glass specialized container in the north.
 
@Nyakouai I don't, my ex father in law introduced me to it in his cortijo. I dont even like wine
 
A glass... specialized... container... A wine glass perhaps?
 
@CptEric I dk I was always curious about the next episode just for the sake of the weirdness
 
3:17 PM
amateur.
a "glass". bwahaha.
 
Ah, a pitcher
Sure
 
@CptEric I didnt see this in andalusia
 
I thought it was socially acceptable drinking, my bad
 
not a pitcher. this for individual use.
 
Yes, individual pitcher. What's wrong with that?
 
3:18 PM
I had to drink from a sack and choke, that was the real way of drinking it they told me
 
dunno man. it's like a different country
 
he also showed me his gun the day I arrived, he was a kind man though
 
anything beyond murcia for me is already too far away.
 
For a second, I thought you mispelled "'murica", which was consistent with "Father inlaw's gun"
 
both pretty much are.
 
3:21 PM
"mucho calor en cortijo"
my first sentence
"por mi hija: mato" was my second
 
Lot of heat in smth... / For my daughter : smth
Did I get that right?
 
yup
sentence one lacks article tho
el cortijo
 
What do cortijo y mato mean?
 
smth?
 
something* for lazy people
 
3:24 PM
@Nyakouai cortijo is like a big shed I think?
mato means I kill
 
Okaaaaaay
Very nice man
Ah yes, matar, mato, makes sense
 
what is smth?
 
cortijo has various connotations, depends on the context can be a big house, a farm, a group of tightly-coupled corrupt politicans and familiars interweaving to get profit...
 
smth = something
 
and a colloquialism for your area-of-comfort, business, familiar or friendly wise.
 
3:25 PM
@CptEric my father in law lived in a village with ~2000 habitants, on a quiet street YET he had a cortijo to escape the busy-ness. Then again the poor man lived with 3 mediterranian women so imagine the emotions
 
but it's used almost only down there in the south
can also refer to a small plot with a cabin / pool / wathever.
 
plottwist, I had to spend weeks in that cortijo so I was far away from his daughter at night
 
Well, he did imply he could kill for his daughter
Not namely you
So I'd deem it wise to heed that order and sleep in the cabin
And remain pure until wedding ahem
 
one of the dangers of a farmer girl, his father has more than enough land and tools to turn you into olive tree digestive protein.
the brutalest kind of tattoo would be a laser cut one now that i think of it.
 
@Nyakouai no this was a line from Salvame
@CptEric this man looked like the uncle of Fresh Prince of Bel Air, but then white
 
3:39 PM
checks out
 
He builds houses, he built half the village. His brother is a bouncer
It was intimidating as hell and I constantly had to prove myself. But he has a heart of gold and his daughters are his most precious
I was only happy with that actually, a man's gotta do some effort to obtain a girlfriend
 
you even got daily quests, that's inmversive af.
 
and every single person I met treated me like I was part of their village, it felt like home and barely ever was homesick
I miss all of them, promised them a visit but I couldnt cause it would have reminded me of the good times with my ex. It's been 6 years now so I need to tough up and pay them a visit soon
still in contact with some
 
It's your eeeex, aaaaaaah. Context man, context
 
well my first ex
 
3:43 PM
First long relationship?
 
longest, ~4 years
 
Story I'd love to hear. Unfortunately, I have to run (hadn't see the hour). Doc appointment. Keep that story in mind
See you all!!
 
good luck at the doc, see you
 
man I dont like relationships, one moment its all good, next moment its gone
 
heyo o/
 
3:50 PM
hey jimmay!
 
heya taser ^^
 
@TaseerAhmad this is with everything in life
hi BB
 
ey dude
 
how are you?
 
Theres one girl I had 'feelings' for, she knew and she was 'k' with it. Saw her again after a year and its still the same thing, now I dont know if I ever should make a move, even just for knowing her
 
3:58 PM
had or still have
cause if second, you should definitly make a move. A lifelong doubt is worse as a closing "no" or an opening "yes"
 
I still have but not much. She stills make eye contact whenever she gets a chance, I am afraid that even if I talk, I won't be able to give time
That would make me an a-hole
That I started it and then 'ghosted'
 
afraid -> fear, worst advisor
it's a talk, it's not a commitment. Don't overthink
 
I know my intentions, I fear that she might take it wrong and think of it as a commitment like you said. You are right, I will see what I can do
 
the world is not build on "will see" though. Clear your mind and have a normal conversation and the rest will lead its way. With "will see" the horror of constant "what if's " will haunt you
been there
 
Okay, she might come on Friday, I will try
 
4:10 PM
yeah I'm with Mw
always shoot your shot
I'd rather be rejected 100 times than wonder what if
 
yep, i've been through both and what if is a lot worse
 
How do you start a conversation?
 
depens on context, what is the connection with that girl
 
Class fellow
 
4:16 PM
The same way you start a conversation with anybody else
 
@TaseerAhmad pretend you can't figure out some assignment and ask her about it could be a start
or about upcoming assignments
gotta fly, gonna buy my new phone tonight (most surely)
cyall
 
Yeah, threre's one upcoming project, I will talk about that lol
catch you later
 
cya bakky
 
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