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Tim
12:01 AM
@TristanWiley hello guys how are you all doing, haven't seen you all year, etc
have they nothing to write about is actually worth reading
 
@Tim This isn't even original. This same stupid argument was made in another magazine.
> But there are other things that the community can do to help out. First and foremost is to understand that the code snippets posted as examples are not production-ready code. Don’t copy this into a project without understanding the code and testing it.
Exactly. No more needs to be said.
Don't be a fucking idiot.
 
> But when the developers use example code without trying to understand the implications of it, that’s when problems can arise.
sounds like natural selection to me
 
12:44 AM
@TristanWiley this is true we are kicking ass
now we are doing 2v1 lol
 
1:17 AM
@TristanWiley Tell me when you're playing minecraft again
 
I am now lol @Mauker
 
LOL
I've ranted on twitter and you once again didn't let me know
I get it, you don't love me anymore
 
2:04 AM
Now playing Minnecraft with Mauker twitch.tv/sirhype
 
<3
 
 
3 hours later…
4:55 AM
Good morning everyone. :)
 
morn' guys..
 
 
1 hour later…
6:11 AM
posted on November 27, 2019 by lfy

Emulator 29.2.11 is now available in the Canary channel. Changes: Fixed an issue when running the Windows emulator on AMD cpus (with either Windows Hypervisor Platform or the AMD Hypervisor) where when resuming from a snapshot from the AVD Manager in Studio, the emulator would show up as offline.

 
6:45 AM
The portable monitor has arrived in NZ
Soon, I shall be more productive
Where soon is 7-10 business days because it takes the sheep carts a while to get from Auckland to Christchurch
 
Tom
7:16 AM
hello
 
Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Morning Everyone!!!!!!! :D
 
7:39 AM
The battery is on its way
Soon, I shall be able to move my phone away from the desk
 
yay
I forgot to charge my phone today
TT^TT
 
@RaghavSood , bro, I am pretty sure, you do not spend most of the time on the phone. It's good and should be away from the desk
 
Tom
why it should be away from the desk?
 
I unfortunately still require the phones for 2fa etc.
Fortunately, no humans contact me via the devices
 
7:59 AM
@Tim what happened
 
@RaghavSood , bro, that you must do with the desktop then
The Activity being prevented to be launch in Android 10?
 
If you put your 2fa auth codes on the same computer you use to log into stuff, you deserve to be banned from all technology
 
@RakeshKumar ?
 
@MwBaker, Trying to launch an activity in Android 10 from FCM on the background and Activity not being launched
 
8:20 AM
Hello everyone
 
No.
 
o/
@RakeshKumar starting an Activity from FireBase Cloud Messaging?
 
Hiya Raghav, Rakesh, Tom, Bakker, Nya!!!!! :D
 
@MwBakker, Background>FireBase Cloud Messaging>Service>Activity and Activity not being launched on Android 10.
 
ah I see now
I didnt work with Firebase in Android before though, sorry
 
8:27 AM
@MwBakker , It's alright bro, No need to say sorry. :)
@W0MP3R , Hello, How are you?
 
Is the object required to be retrieved from FCM being retrieved?
 
No
FCM push receives with extended FirebaseMessagingService on Override method onMessageReceived(RemoteMessage remoteMessage)
 
but you are trying to retrieve the messaging data on start I suppose?
 
Tom
I wait 2 weeks for 0.3 m sata cable
shop can deliver other stuff next day after ordering
but the cable is out of reach
 
\o
 
Tom
8:37 AM
hi
 
Yo/
 
\o
 
\o/
 
9:06 AM
o/
 
HEEEEEEEEEEY MACARENA
Hi Adam o/
 
9:35 AM
@MwBakker , on start?
 
on start of the application
 
damn it Nya! Now I need to listen the macarena
 
@MwBakker , No, Application killed and getting FCM push then extended Service get started and then trying to launch an Activity
 
your application crashes, then getting FCM push and then tries to launch an activity?
I may misunderstand
 
Application not crashes.
On `FCM` push, then `Activity` will be launched through the `Service`. I am working on `PJSip` and on `Activity` Call screen will open `launched`. Which is not getting opened
 
9:44 AM
have you put a try catch in the service where the call screen will open and retrieve the exception messages coming from it? Or does the debugger not even reach the point to the call of the start of the activity?
 
Debugger won't reach to that point as the application, not alive
 
a try catch around the FCM push
 
Found no exception with try-catch block
 
@W0MP3R Always happy to brighten your day
 
just enable exception jumping on the debugger
 
9:56 AM
I have put the logs on catch block and got no exception
 
Breakpoints -> java exceptions -> Any exception
same for kotlin
 
@RakeshKumar that is odd, I'd expect it would go wrong there thus it won't reach the point of opening the activity
 
I am getting that issue on Android 10 OS than other versions
@CptEric , Let me try that bro
 
@CptEric isn't this standard enabled?
 
nope
 
10:00 AM
why would they not do that
 
Greetings!
 
I don't get exceptions, only friendly warnings from my apps
 
Friendly or more like "Jeez Mehdi, you broke something again, you stoopid!"?
 
I even got death threads from my apps after performing databinding
 
that was at first geis, then I said: "who do you think I do all this for, huh? I do it for you so you can function well", then my apps and I became buddies
 
10:07 AM
Such a nice story :)
 
thanks, most of the apps I built bought this, except the one I'm currently working on
 
No issue found with Debugger
I have also used pendingIntent.send() to launch the Activity. I didn't work as well
 
@RakeshKumar does the debugger even reach that point or not?
 
I'm reading an article about "how to mess your software project", and I'm slowly ticking the boxes of the things that "you shouldn't do" my company does... It's depressing
 
I'd say go with the basic approach: find out where exactly the debugger crashes (surely somewhere with interaction to Firebase like 'push' or such) and put the try catch blocks around the point where the debugger comes no further
You can also check FireBase logs to see if it recieves any calls at all from your application and how they are registered, or even, what the problem may be
 
10:12 AM
@MwBakker , It reaches but not to catch block
 
if it passes the try without catch then that block is not the one causing problems, good
so you can move on, see if there is any other call after this being performed that should be try catch'ed to get the correct exception message
 
i'm sorry Rakesh, but I have a social responsibility to assume in these cases, try should have the bracket at the same level (not a new line) and the closing bracket of the try should also be on the same line of catch and its opening bracket :D
 
Haha that passive agressive ':D' at the end, lovely
 
@MehdiB. , Nice advise, bro. :) :)
 
C# does it the way you did though :D
 
10:18 AM
C# is life
 
If you replace the l with an s, the i with an h, the f with an i and the e with a t :)
 
@MehdiB. , bro, I have never worked on C#
 
10:29 AM
Have you also checked the FireBase logs to see what calls come in from your application?
@Tim what did your Event Viewer tell you about possible other crash parallel to the emulator crash
 
@MwBakker , DataMessage push was implemented and receiving push fine on background/foreground and on app killed
 
so you are saying all your required calls come through?
in the meantime, you can follow your debugger's steps to the point of crash and a try catch around that specific point (as mentioned, could be a data retrieval/pushing related method)
 
@MwBakker C# is all nice and friendly, until you need to handle memory, and it begins sweating and looking shifty
 
Yes, FCM will be received either app killed and terminate the status of pjsip to offline so that can have a push on app killed
 
@RakeshKumar ok if you are sure all the calls and answers are being processed correctly according to the FireBase logs you can continue the debugging to the point of crash at a certain method call
 
10:36 AM
Didn't find anything with try-catch block. I put the logs on CallActivity on their life cycle methods and found nothing
 
I mean debugging with step over to the point of crash
So you put a breakpoint at the try catch that causes no exception and step over untill you crash
at that crash point you re-put the try and catch
 
I went through the break points with Intent to launch that CallActivity with try-catch block, all the block executed and exit it. But it couldn't reach the Activity
 
"and exit it" by that you mean it crashed or exit the block with no issues?
 
exit the block with no issues
 
heh, clear alright
at what line exactly does your debugger crash during stepping over, show the line here please
 
Tim
10:45 AM
@MwBakker nothing there was only 1 error
 
It's nowhere crash
 
@Tim ah that sucks
@RakeshKumar Ok so we now know all the calls and answers from FCM go well and that there are 0 exceptions coming forth during debugging
 
Tim
@RakeshKumar did you check the restrictions on launching activities in the background
fat chance it is not possible the way you envision
 
but that should create the exception pointing that out right
 
Tim
I didn't follow the conversation. Just saying check the docs first
 
10:51 AM
 
@Tim it does sound like a plausible thing, but I do believe an exception should have pointed this out during his debugging process
Taseer you were about to become my best buddy
 
I would have received a backlash from Tim, had to delete it 0___0
 
:O
 
Tim
11:10 AM
taser bro we are the same rank now
 
Noice
 
when a photo of yours has been seen 60K times in google maps
 
11:25 AM
wot?
 
android.permission.SYSTEM_ALERT_WINDOW and android.permission.ACTION_MANAGE_OVERLAY_PERMISSION has worked
 
just got an email
from google telling me how much my pics are trend on maps
 
yay
 
@MwBakker, @CptEric, @MehdiB., @Tim, bro's, Thanks a lot for help. :) :)
 
you're welcome
 
11:29 AM
@CptEric , :) :)
 
11:43 AM
@RakeshKumar you're welcome, but I did not help
 
@MehdiB. , advice appreciated bro. :)
 
Tim
@RakeshKumar no problem please like and subscribe using the buttons below, and we will see you next time
4
 
:O
 
So I was downloading a game, half-way through, Steam reset it and now it's downloading from the start ;_;
14 GB wasted
 
Tim
11:59 AM
ouch that must have taken close to 3 minutes
 
@Tim , o_0?
 
Tim
dima flashbacks
 
yesss xD
 
Where did dima go?
 
Tim
12:12 PM
his contract was terminated
3
 
His contract with this room? Wat?
 
you don't check your contract dates?
 
I am currently waiting for HR to throw me out officially.
 
uh oh
 
nono, it's a good thing :) (I think)
 
12:15 PM
In your case, it won't be HR but Security (they're already on their way)
 
ummm, I hope not!
 
D:
 
In fact it was a colleague who wanted to throw fruit at me, not vice-versa!
 
:O
 
The Womper bot is stuck in an emoji reaction loop
 
12:18 PM
I think so, yah :D
 
Someone to go bonk the damn thing to reboot it?
 
When there is no emoji, an emoji shall be scribbled somewhere, damn!
 
W0MP3R the Scribbl3r
It has a nice ring to it
 
is anybody using play publisher api?
 
Tim
12:33 PM
indirectly we use the plugin for jenkins that uses it
it's open source
 
im experiencing 500 errors this morning
 
Tim
v2 or v3
 
v3 i think
nm its working now
 
Tim
sick
 
12:52 PM
hi
i need help regarding Retrofit Internet connection listener
 
@VaishaliSharma what is that?
 
actually i was using interceptor for checking internet connection
but that will work only before retrofit call is happenng
i want to notify user, if user lose connection during api call
can u suggest something for this?
 
yeah, interceptor is really really bad way to do that actually
OkHttpClient will throw UnknownHostException if ther is no connection
 
Tim
retrofit will throw an ioexception in that case
 
so thats the option one
option two is to implement connectivity monitor
for example
 
Tim
1:05 PM
note that is a naive connectivity check
 
back
 
Tim
just in time for this juice
159
Q: Joel left, and SE as we know it is dead

LuuklagThe recent blog post, which I don't even want to link to, made it perfectly clear for me. Joel left, and with that SE as we know it died. It will take a while before it's totally gone, but it will go eventually. Now we already saw some cracks appear when Joel was still factually in charge, but ...

 
there's even more to that :D
 
Tim
1:16 PM
it's a bottomless pit
 
116
Q: Could Stack Exchange be less American-centric?

aloisdg says Reinstate MonicaIn the loop survey, a question wrecks my mind: Note that this survey has been updated to include the missing "African" choice. Of course I selected Other: Human as an answer. Yes I identify as such. This question feels so American-centric. USA has a huge problem with races. I don't deny it a...

at some point it might start getting negative depth
and resurfacing.
shooting to the sun
 
Sweet, sweet drama juice
 
Somebody create a new stackoverflow
 
Perhaps it's time to get working on a backup plan
 
Time is right
 
1:19 PM
oh don't worry
somebody already thought of that for you
24
Q: Is Microsoft Q&A the beginning of the end for SO?

gbjbaanbI saw Microsoft has created its own Q&A system, designed to incorporate the same Stack Overflow-style Q&A, but with additional samples, documentation and tutorials. Someone asked "Why not use SO" and got some interesting answers. I assume MS Q&A isn't using SO as the backend platform, as 'sald...

 
sick
 
the everything is fine gif would be dope.
 
I was mostly thinking of this wonderful bit of net space
 
@Tim where does this all come from? What has been the main cause, is it the PC-facism?
 
What are we gonna do when a morning come with us trying to connect just to see a big "This den of anarchists and rebels does not exist anymore. Signed: you know who"
 
1:23 PM
i'll be a bit less productive but browse reddit for drama instead.
 
Tim
@MwBakker capitalism
 
you are able to write this on a computer on the www thanks to capitalism
 
Tim
no I have that thanks to steve jobs
 
o/
user image
2
 
Tim
1:40 PM
repost
 
"We thought the job listings would pay the bills, and we’d fix the internet, and that was all we cared about and it’s what motivated us to work so hard."
Past tense
 
@Tim and what mammalistic urge made Steve Jobs develop such things..?
 
Tim
love
 
@Tim Not exactly
 
@MwBakker nerdiness
 
1:42 PM
@Tim sweet summer child
 
Tim
oh
 
was Joe the CEO fired or did he decide to step down?
 
@Tim I second the love idea. Bill wanted to make money. Cause money get you love. So Bill transitively did it for love. CQFD
 
@Mauker I just did invalidate cache and restart, designer had issues
 
Tim
he left
 
1:44 PM
oh okay
@Nyakouai and now Billy Bill is wealthier than Bezos, looks like: 1 love - shipping 0
 
Tim
he was the guy who complained on meta about what trump was doing with immigrants
 
any vps service recommendations?
 
@asim Sometime that does help
 
yeah I remember that, I think he's also the one who initiated the whole code of conduct discussion
 
does any real free vps service exist?
 
Tim
1:46 PM
no
nothing worth having is free
 
Not even... oxygen?
 
@MehdiB. Well, Bezos lost his fortune for love. Cause he was in love - but not with his wife, and she left, and took half the chunk with her. So he lost it for love too
 
she barely took less than the quarter, and donated it all
 
Ok, still, he lost the first place for love
So "love 1 - 0 love"* to correct Tim
 
no no no no, that's not what I meant
 
1:50 PM
@Mauker you think plants do photosynthesis for the heck of fun?
 
Tim
they do it for love
5
 
@MwBakker Pretty sure they don't do photosynthesis for the hecking fun of getting oxygen wasted by idiots
 
just added elevation to the title bar and its looking 100x better now
 
ok so, "philanthropy 1 : 0 love", you'd think the more you donate money the less you have, but apparently that's not how the world works and you actually make more by donating
 
@Tim this one made me laugh out loud, thanks
 
1:51 PM
Bill isn't rich because he donates :P
Bill donates cause he is filthy rich AND he is a nice guy
So that's still "love 1 - 0 love" :P
 
No, you donate through charities to avoid taxes :)
 
Also that
 
@Nyakouai bill can donate because he gathered money enough to do this: by capitalism
 
Though my gvt did not ask me if I donated anything and I got taxed full rate...
@MwBakker All capitalism is for love :)
 
@Nyakouai do you contribute to society though? did you ever study why toilets stink?
 
1:53 PM
(I can continue making completely irrational arguments for the rest of the day, it's an art that I mastered quite well, just try me)
Uuuuh... I try, but not by studying toilets...
 
:O
 
I know my place, never meant disrespect to good old Bill :(
ACTUALLY - I may have indirectly worked for good ol' Bill and his contribution to society, now that I think about it!
 
same, I can say that 70$ of his wealth is because of me someday buying a windows CD
 
Nah, I mean actual, nice contribution. Microsoft was (iirc) one of the XPrize Global Learning Challenger sponsor. And I gave a fair bit of my time and mental sanity to that challenge
(Making a soft to help children without teachers across the world to read, write and count)
Ofc, the team was making it to do something good, and the bosses told us to do it to get filthy rich, so... maybe it evens out in the end
 
2:00 PM
ying and yang
 
so did it go to prod or not?
 
We got eliminated before 1/2 final
Funding got cut
And they try to sell this unfinished piece of shit to gullible people
 
there there, you were supposed to lose to capitalism since the beginning :)
 
You're missing my point; I acknowledge the mighty power of capitalism. I argue about the end goal :P
Capitalism isn't about hoarding wealth (I mean, not the first priority). Capitalism is about getting laid love
Bill funded a capitalist company to get laid receive love
 
We are mammals, think about it: in the end it's all about getting laid
from the simple brand on your clothing or a star on your car to the salary and house you own: it's all about accuiring such for the benefit of your species and the reproduction factors coming along with it
Society is our dress, but bare nature still creates us as hunters & collectors
 
2:13 PM
so sociopaths should be naked?
 
in that context: I think they do want to live without a society
 
What the hell did I walk into, again?
That was rhetorical, please don't answer
 
Joke that went too far until philosophy got involved
Hiya cM
 
@codeMagic Into the mouth of madness
 
2:32 PM
Hiya cM, Mauker!!!!!! :D
 
wompah!
 
Heya, all you peeps!
 
cM!
 
He's not here
 
oh no
 
2:40 PM
heya CM
 
He's not here, Eric
 
2:52 PM
oh no
 
3:16 PM
@IvanMilisavljevic @IvanMilisavljevic, CoonectivityMonitor is related to lifecycle, my scenario is different, i am not using live data
 
well you can modify it to fit your usecase
thats the basic idea
or you could go with option 1. catching that UnknownHostException
 
Tim
imagine thinking that's what SO mods do
 
:O
 
Tim
adam I saw you got many upvotes on your reddit post :y:
 
3:39 PM
tim is jealous
3
 
4:01 PM
good job adam
wait - what was the post about? (I just assumed it was a tutorial he made)
 
@AdamMc331 too damn funny!!
 
Hiya Carl!!!!! :D
 
HIYA WOMPERRRRRRR!!!!!! :D
How are you?
 
4:16 PM
I'm goooooood :D
you??
 
I'm ok.. still stressed out.
Trying to get this project done in a somewhat fast manner, and despite doing TDD the QA team is finding bugs
 
I don't think TDD was ever meant to eliminate all bugs
 
it's not but it's given me a false sense of confidence that there wouldn't really be (m)any
 
that's still a normal thing with or without tdd
ah, yeah, but you could say that you could have had more without TDD :D
 
Tests are all good to make sure what you want work somewhat reliably. But since bugs most often happen where you don't expect them, well they're rarely covered by the tests
 
4:21 PM
yeah
 
Or if they are, you are still developping
 
this said, I highly dislike TDD :)
 
I've enjoyed it so far
but I'm not being super-duper strict about it
 
4:36 PM
you would have to think of all edge cases before itself which is not easy.
or is it you would write tests based on the feature and then think of all corner cases?
 
You cannot write any code until you have a failing unit test
 
if you don't do tdd sometimes you end up taking up edge cases later
 
and then you can only write enough code to make that test pass
 
agree.
 
4:53 PM
Wow this room full of help vampires even copied our room description:
https://chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/188748/android-ios-programmers
 
Need some quick help
android is not letting me send fcm token on the network (to my server),, i can send abc, xyz but not the token
is that some kinda new hidden f**kin feature?
 
it should. on which os version?
 
6
 
there should not be a problem and i don't think there is any problem in the latest os versions as well
 
Time to go~~
 
5:00 PM
back
 
Cya later people!!! :D
 
cya!.
 
Cya Womper!
 
Aight! i was tryna send it before service gets bound so it was automagically failing on null check
 
you don't need a service. using a normal background thread is sufficient
 
5:09 PM
hello
 
5:21 PM
hi grr
 
@Mauker loool
 
No, its a chat app, Now I wanna add delete message for everyone but realized that i will also have to delete that message from archives otherwise it will be only deleted from delivered users devices i.e. offline users will still receive it....
I had no idea its that huge of a project when i started it, all alone :(
 
5:46 PM
it is on obscure details that you need to bring in heavy engineering efforts, the rest is mostly CRUD operations
 
back~~ :3
 
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