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@MehdiB. English translation: whiskers
00:35
Neat
01:03
Who's that beardow?
01:35
LMAOOO
nice meme dave
02:23
o/
Want to see a really bad bug? You can FaceTime any iOS device running 12.1 and listen in remotely—WITHOUT THE OTHER PERSON ANSWERING THE CALL. (via @bzamayo) https://9to5mac.com/2019/01/28/facetime-bug-hear-audio/
Holy crap
o/
02:43
I dunno man, I'm just an intern @ Red Bull.
03:30
@MehdiB. I'm usually in the room, just not able to talk too much these days, super busy with new releases
@MarkO'Sullivan We released GRIN support on counter.network last night!
04:03
Good morning
Morning
How are you bro? What are you working on these days?
I'm good, thanks!
Nah, just suffering with Android as usual, what about you?
I am also stuck somewhere with XMPP on Android
 
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Greetings Everyone!
06:03
Good morning!
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07:27
o/
hey good afternoon developers
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Ravi Bhatt requested access. Rep: 1347 - Questions: 6 - Answers: 47 (ratio 4:31.3)
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I'm not a big fan of third chances
08:10
I have read and understood the rules
08:50
good morning :D
Gooood morning
09:17
lol
good morning
How detailed is your usual daily scrum update? “I’m working on module X” or “I’m working on a, b, c of module X”?
Idris Stack requested access. Rep: 26 - Questions: 11 - Answers: 0 (ratio 4:0)
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usually I worked on X yesterday and I will do Y today oh and next week Z is happening and ABCDEF how was your weekend etc
09:22
XD
@MehdiB. The latter i guess
I think I need to split my work into small tasks, my turn on the daily is 5sec as I don't go into details
morning, nerds
morning
Is there any setting to disable this shading around View in AS preview?
09:44
coffee + coding + youtube.com/watch?v=R_MXH2pvPdY 👌
Idris Stack requested access. Rep: 26 - Questions: 11 - Answers: 0 (ratio 4:0)
guys, I am trying to write unit test for a particular scenario using robolectric, but didn't find any related example. hence, I have asked question here at : stackoverflow.com/questions/54404070/…
10:11
@RaghavSood niiiiice! That was quick
That's what happens when you don't take holidays
Counter Network the company you're working with?
@RaghavSood that explains why the social media buttons don't work
:(
Lol, it's a new arm of the exchange I'm with
Also hurry up and make it available in the UK
Start twisting arms
Still very new, polishing is a WIP
Counter is not country specific
It should work in UK already, I think
Unless someone added country lists
10:14
It seems like it's only available in like 4/5 countries
I don't deal with the front end stuff lol, I'll check
Ah, hmm, maybe they added a country filter for some reason
I shall get UK added
Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam, Indonesia, China
Excellent!
@MarkO'Sullivan it's remote right? got some numbers?
woah raghav has become a bot for real now
@MuratKaragöz I can answer questions offline. What's the best way to contact you?
10:19
Letters, obviously
2
That's all you can do to go offline
you know what I mean :D
@RaghavSood XD
Well, I guess you could technically do smoke signals
But only if you're using good old coal
None of the fancy electric smoker stuff with wifi and bluetooth and livestreaming
10:20
too primitive
better not contribute to the global warming and go with letters
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10:25
welcome :)
@MarkO'Sullivan LinkedIn/Xing
At linked in you get to see a whole different Murat
my true nerd life
Hi all, I am planning to do some game automation (repetitive daily tasks on my farms) on my android phone, and was wondering which tool you might advise as best suited (preferably using java,c#,python) ? I've read about Appium & Espresso, so I am double checking :-)
10:49
@MuratKaragöz added you on LinkedIn I think
Wait maybe I got the wrong Murat
I'll check it later when I am home
the most nerdy one
that's me
I'm confused cause you're not flexing in your picture
That one is for the recruiters
Okay are you connected with Eric?
uhm dunno
I have a red shirt
11:04
Yep I got the right one!
11:22
@Enissay at that point you might as well not play the game
@Enissay You could try to find their hidden api and use that
@MuratKaragöz you still havent added me , i have sent you request weeks back
take the hint CF
5
Really? I usually accept everyone
You sure you got the right one?
11:24
i think so
maybe you dont my real name i guess?
I'll check when I am home
unless your name starts with Tim, I'll accept it
xD
take the hint @TimCastelijns
I need a new 2nd laptop since my last overheated
I am doubting between hp elitebook or z book
Anybody experience with one?
get a desktop pc
11:31
How will I carry this to my internship?
I have to for now, it's not very easy
@MwBakker get remote internships
I live alone, spending all day at home the enitre week is depressing
Sounds like you have lots of time
time to dive into hobbies
such as AR development
@MuratKaragöz What do you mean lots of time?
I work 40hrs on this internship and have 7 hrs on my weekend job, but if it would mean 40hrs at home that would suck
11:40
oh you work remote
No, I brought my desktop pc to my internship so I could still work while laptop is overheated
wait wat
2
Why does the company not provide you that stuff?
They didn't have it
Plus I prefered my own device anyway
.. till it got overheated
that's wrong on so many levels
Why? I did this on my last internship as well. I brought my laptop and could work immediatly the same day
They offered other laptops, but I prefered mine
11:46
When you take that laptop home and work on personal projects how will you proof that it was not on company time
one example
o/
It actually depends quite a lot on the env Murat
they let you take company code to home
second example
It would be quite easy to take the code home if one is really invested into it.
they let you connect to company network with a private device
etc. etc.
11:48
It would be quite easy to put the project on a external drive too..
They would still sue you if you did something you shouldn't tho
@MuratKaragöz Dunno, I use my personal device too
I had to sign an agreement not to leak those, and a NDA
@Mauker I signed that too
I work on my personal device as well, they actually even prefer it that way
11:49
Although, my arrangement is unusual - I'm free to work on anything, and keep IP rights etc. if it's not a company project, at any time
In the end it's also a matter of trust
The computer they got there for me to work is way slower...
And if they would not trust me on that they should have not hired me in the first place
They don't know if they can trust you the moment they've met you tho
True
Life in the fast lane
Think I will have the same problem with the car later
11:51
Trust is good, but Control is better
I am very attached to my car, I won't let a company force me to drive something different
I am scared though that someday I will apply for a job that looks perfect but then they tell me "oh btw here is your macbook, you work on this"
I wouldn't mind to have a (good) work computer. But it would need to fit what it's expected of it
But one day you are used to a certain model (or OS) and you don't want to change that
My place will provide any reasonable machine you want, if you want it
Most people just get a MBP tho
A couple of use use our personal machines
That personal device stuff happens more than I thought
12:00
stuff?
Yeah, this situation where the employee has to work with personal devices
has or prefer to*
@Mauker some companies such as IBM, start doing this to cut costs, they call it "BYOD" bring your own device, on which the company stack gets installed
for internships in NL it is pretty common to use your own laptop, but for fulltime jobs it's really no-go
12:06
Why is my up navigation thing taking me to the wrong activity?
As I asked this I figured out why, thanks Room, you're the best
Aura is real.
@MehdiB. IBM is the only company where I opted for a company device
None of that shit is touching my personal machine
How to Sabotage IBM As An Employee 101: Sit back and do what your manager tells you because you don't need to scuttle a sinking ship
@TimCastelijns I want to go into draft-jobs you think I can't do this with my own device?
"detachering" would be the Dutch word I mean
@Mauker yay~~
maukerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr4
you'll still be employed by some company
their policies aside, I would never willingly wear out my personal stuff for work
unless they compensate for it
12:23
@RaghavSood that was my thoughts as well + their laptop was much better than mine :D
@TimCastelijns finally one guy gets it
@TimCastelijns the compensation is that I can work on my own device of which I am used to
@TimCastelijns +1
you can get used to a different device, but you cannot ask the company for a new laptop when yours dies
Ah, good point
12:34
@TimCastelijns And I won't, so it's all good
Just need to choose between elitebook or z book
2nd hand both are around 400 which is a quite a lot of money for me so I want to choose wisely
Or go for my old model for around 200eu because I must work with a company device within a year anyway..
no but that means you have to pay for a new one
while probably you will have used it more for work than for personal
That is true
Perhaps I am stubborn
hmm imo i wouldn't my personal laptop for any company stuff , used to or not used to
@TimCastelijns That actually happened to one of my friends
His laptop died during work hours
I would use mine if I was a contractor
12:39
someone asked me "how can I learn android?". What should be the answer?
ignore him
Tell him to start reading into programming in general
if you already need help with finding 'getting started with android' resources, this field is not for you
why not
It may be a genuine question asking someone who is already in the field
@SHAHMDMONIRULISLAM Tell him about databinding
Watch his world implode
12:57
ok I guess it's a matter of how you interpret the question
*It's a question of how you interpret the question
13:20
lol
14:13
@Code-Apprentice We got about a foot and a half
14:28
Daily reminder: 9 out of 10 concerns are unfounded
😂😂😂
@TimCastelijns that show is genuinely hilarious
'tis
I saw jarl varg in a movie recently where he played a serious guy (attorney). It was really weird
14:43
did you "share your feedback" with him?
14:54
Word btw
Very British welcome
@MwBakker I used my own personal phone for demoing at my last job, I hated it, I don't feel comfortable with people taking my phone and testing it out, even if I'm standing there beside them
all it takes is for a recruiter to contact me and ask if I'm interested in role x
and then I want the earth to open up and swallow me up lol
I wonder... when @Ahmad gets older, will his avatar grow a beard?
15:12
Mark - It can be much worse than a recruiter, believe me.
Yeah I tried to tame it down a bit lol
any of you chaps ever implemented one of them stacked card lists?
I always put on demo mode and disable notifications whenever I had to give a demo so no notification preview would come up
@TimCastelijns show an image
Not sure I know what you're on about but a picture would help
15:15
this kind of shit
hmmm
Not really
I did a recyclerview with each item stacked with an item behind it but positioned it so you couldn't see the item behind
@MarkO'Sullivan airplane mode
@MuratKaragöz not ideal when your demo needs internet though
@TimCastelijns any of you chieftains*
well it would not need internet in the first place
because the demo would not be on the private phone
15:16
Or BLE in some of my cases
yeah we eventually got company phones to test on
The company I work for now is great, bought brand new good quality phones for our tester to try out our apps on
O no, here I go starting up servers again
Good luck Raghav lol
@RaghavSood you watching Arcon?
Watching what now
Aragon's conference
> ARCON keeps a vigilant eye on critical infrastructure and information assets through Privileged Access Management and Configuration Management Solution ..
Guess I should be watching the watchers
Don't have time to sit and watch conferences lol
15:18
@TimCastelijns In a widget?
just a RV
Nope, sorry
Assume it's just a LayoutManager though?
what did you do then
I did it in a widget :D
homescreen widget?
15:19
Yeah, but only because it's one of the only things you can do
what kind of container did you use if not a RV
Hey bfx
It's a CardList or something? It's a native widget "view"
You can't use them in real Android
15:28
Hi
@Sir Tim 😂😂
fucking widgets
Today I have bought samsung evo ssd 500 gb
Waiting to test
Wish me luck.
Why
😐
@Mark bruh I had a beard when I was 13
15:33
Owwh
15:47
@bluetoothfx it's a good one, I have the same
@Ahmad why is your avatar clean shaven
Appearances
16:03
o/
@Graeme British PowerPoint Graeme
@MuratKaragöz .setOnClickListener -> not touching this
@TimCastelijns yes kinda once for a demo
16:06
@MuratKaragöz help vampire sigh
how did you approach it? I can't really find credible sources
@MehdiB. liking the new home and workplace?
there is a library for it too tim
multiple, but can't find a good one
btw you can implement without a lib also
just stack imageviews on top of each other
that sounds dumb
16:10
android is dumb anyway
@ColdFire not yet, still have mixed feelings, but good so far :D
nice
looks like the guy whose account was terminated on 25th was reinstated
well good for him i guess
the mass starrer?
no the guy whose play store acc was terminated
someone posted it here
aaah the medium article
16:20
yeah this one^
CF can you tell me how you approached it or which lib you used
The world needs to see this
give me few min i will find my code
Thanks big bro @MuratKaragöz
16:35
"What we have learned is that our company account hadn’t committed any violation, it was terminated due being “associated” to my personal account. My personal account hadn’t committed any violation either, it was terminated due being “associated” to a colleague account. This colleague account was terminated due “Intellectual Property and Trademark Violation”. My colleague still thinks his account termination was wrong but he appealed and got no support as thousands of developers out there."
it's so sketchy
So google is unpredictable!!
They can do what they want right!
it is funny how much support they give us as a big company, compared to how they treat the little guys
they'll go out of their way to give us time and help with fixing things that might go against their policy
woah nice
fucking google treat indie dev like trash
I still think it's dumb to use ".. on christmas day" as an argument
😂😂😂
16:41
I'd definitely be pissed if I'm trying to spend christmas with my family and that happens
meaning that it ruined for him not only his business but his christmas as well
yea Google/Apple are total hypocrites about that
sure but it is completely irrelevant to actual the purpose of the 'letter'
where did you see that his account got reinstated? @ColdFire
i was just scrolling through medium and found his article
16:45
@AdamMc331 ?
the account association shit they're doing is totally fucked
> The “Developer Relations Manager” of Europe contacted us because this article and contacted de review team to request more info. Finally we provided proof of our company and developer history then they reinstantiated our account.
16:47
something like this right tim?
@eski spot on, fuck them man
i just made that UI
@eski I would love it if the app store was independent from google and wasn't controlled by any big corporation
Of course there would have to be some control but by some group which actually responds to concerns
as i said stack and pad rinse repeat
you understood what i did?
17:03
@MarkO'Sullivan because of the a e s t h e t i c s
should get a beard then
yeah I see what you did
it's not extensible
@ColdFire I think he meant "a stack of scrollable cards" that scrolls like a desk drawer
i doubt that
but is that what you want tim?
17:06
so a viewpager?
do you have a gif of the exact effect you need?
@MarkO'Sullivan perfect XD
17:08
lmao
curious on the google terms you used
I have a working implementation that is heavily inspired by that lib, but I want to know more about how it works and the chinese comments are not really helping
obviously ladder layout manager :p
yeah that can only be achieved by layout manager
since you are overdrawing
all good I just want to know some theory
17:09
do you know how a layout manager works?
btw cool lib
chinese guys to the rescue
China-man to the rescue!
@TimCastelijns what does your working implementation uses?
it also is a layout manager right?
super powers include: turning 1 grain of rice into a million grains of rice, flying instead of driving bad, and being really good at math
17:33
I've only been in the office for half an hour and I already solved a problem that I left hanging at the end of the day last night
17:47
keep in mind bB that these transcripts are permanent and public
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