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2:33 AM
o/
 
\o
 
 
2 hours later…
4:36 AM
They scheduled a job interview! Should I start having illusions?
Now I'm wondering if I will understand the English Malaysian accent or not:(
I don't want to spend a shame :(
 
5:01 AM
Somebody here, please i will appreciate any tip
For example, in terms of salary what should I expect?
 
Fragmented - Android Developer Podcast: 142: Indie development on Android and iOS with Matt Logan
posted on November 19, 2018 by shows

In this episode, we talk to our friend Matt Logan. Matt took some time off and worked on an indie app called Sessions. He built this for both Android and iOS. In this episode we talk to him about his experience building apps on both platforms, techniques, advice and other good stuff. Shownotes

 
@RaymondArteaga this is way too general of a question
What are you interviewing for? What experience do you have? What are going rates for that position/experience in your area? There's way too many variables
 
5:26 AM
ma dudes
o/
 
5:40 AM
O/
 
eLi
6:00 AM
morning
 
6:11 AM
\o
I went to yosemite national park yesterday
was really nice
I'm going to miss california
 
Morning
 
eLi
Ahmad have u ever heard of Serengeti National park youtube.com/watch?v=kLSE9iqnb4k
 
Good Morning..............................
 
 
1 hour later…
7:33 AM
Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Morning Everyone!!!! :D
 
7:48 AM
\o
 
eLi
o/
 
8:18 AM
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@RaymondArteaga glassdoor.com is a good starting point to know the salaries of the market
 
8:43 AM
\o
 
8:56 AM
o/
back in germany
 
9:11 AM
Work or tourism
 
shinilms requested access. Rep: 1213 - Questions: 8 - Answers: 79 (ratio 4:39.5)
 
tourism
@WarrenFaith i just saw tickets to berlin too damn costly :(
sup ahmad
awake at this time?
 
!accept
 
@shinilms welcome. Please start by reading the rules and confirm you have read them before saying anything else.
 
10:01 AM
I totally understand CF. Short notice tickets are expensive as fuck
 
yeah travel specially train travel is costly af in europe
 
CF, Are you using EuroRail?
 
no
 
I have heard that they are not costly for daily transit.
 
eurarail is a pass if i remember correctly? that is what you are referring to right?
 
10:10 AM
Correct
 
naah well lets just say i didnt try to get the pass
 
morgen
 
morgen
2
 
 
2 hours later…
12:09 PM
anyone know another android chat room? this one seems dead
3
 
This one is the best :)
Looks like everyone is busy today.
That's Monday.
 
not an excuse
let's talk and keep SO's chat broker running at full capacity
 
\o
I have returned
To Vietnam
 
grab me some spring rolls
 
No.
 
12:20 PM
sudo grab me some spring rolls
 
Vietnam?
 
Tim Castelijns is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported
 
report --abort
ctrl-c ctrl-c esc esc esc
 
No.
 
12:37 PM
o/
 
12:49 PM
o/
How are you guys doing in this fine monday? Any prod crash test? :D
 
Wow, you have a prod env that is stable enough to actually suffer a crash?
We just test our code between downtimes
2
 
we moved to a new office
 
lol
 
Is your daily commute reduced or increased now?
 
it is reduced by a solid 2 mins, also it's located right on top of the parking garage so I don't have to go outside anymore. It's great
 
12:56 PM
So 2 more minutes of sleep! Your productivity is gonna skyrocket
 
Holy crap, I wish I had two extra sleep minutes. You're the MVP Tim
 
1:06 PM
Do you think CF has already bought a castle in Germany? Or that would be the object of another visit?
 
I think this first trip is just for current owners to pitch their castles to CF
 
makes sense, he then will probably just send his foreign minister to close the deal
 
@MehdiB. I hope it does not snow
 
your benzs tires can handle it :D you don't like snow?
 
I like it
but i dont have winter tires on :/
 
1:21 PM
ah...
better ping @ColdFire fast, he can probably write you a small 1M$ cheque :D
 
2:14 PM
Great
Fixed an issue where there was a missing ?
Took me few days \o/
 
WeavingBird1917 requested access. Rep: 59 - Questions: 7 - Answers: 2 (ratio 4:1.1)
 
!reject
 
@WeavingBird1917 you currently do not meet the requirements to chat here. You can find our requirements in the rules.
 
O/
 
lol
guy doesn't give a fuck
 
So much to do, such little time
 
If you remove the v it will be embedded here
 
or prepend !
 
@MehdiB. He is just receiving the message that his mum passed away
Then they show up..
 
2:50 PM
maybe they know, and play sad music for him
 
😂😂😂
 
xD
 
433 files changed, 1854 insertions(+), 1835 deletions(-)
migration to androidx ✅
 
@MarkO'Sullivan Ohh, same! But also Zelda
 
3:25 PM
@TimCastelijns You are allowed to do that?
 
you are not?
 
nvm thought there were api changes
> With Android Studio 3.2 and higher, you can quickly migrate an existing project to use AndroidX by selecting Refactor > Migrate to AndroidX from the menu bar.
but looks easy
 
it should not be difficult. Note that for any libs that generate code, you must update those to new versions that also support androidx
regular libs that depend on support lib can be fixed with jetifier automatically
 
I switched back to support, after encountering this stackoverflow.com/questions/51782548/…
 
That looks annoying
 
3:45 PM
What it is mofos
 
\o
 
o/
 
\o
 
eLi
4:09 PM
ol
 
oi
avin' a giggle m8?
 
Hello, Android!
 
o/
hello CA
 
I'd like to do fade-in/out animation for an ImageView so that it doesn't scroll behind the hamburg menu icon, can anyone tell if I can do that with View.OnScrollChangeListener ?
Logic would basically be: if ImageView Y in screen > ?attr/actionBarSize -> Fade In, else, Fade Out
I've tried my hand at something somewhat similar with CoordinatorLayout.Behavior, but now I'd like to try something on a View that's in a different View hierarchy(e.g.: this ImageView is in a FrameLayout)
 
4:26 PM
fading out won't prevent it from "scroll behind the icon"
unless it is completely faded before reaching the icon
otherwise yes you can do with a scroll listener
 
Breno - If you're image right now scrolls under the ActionBar, and what you want is that as soon as it's partially occluded it starts to fade, then you can do that with an OnScrollChangedListener and check the Views position within your scroll container
Your scroll containers top value should be the ActionBars bottom (height) value.
If i understand
I hate when you're chasing a bug and you follow the string until it dives into the android code and you lose what the heck is going on :/
TextInputLayout is GONE, navigate away, navigate back and it's VISIBLE...yyyyyyyy
 
4:46 PM
lol
 
@TimCastelijns ty, well it's still an experiment... I don't plan to tie it to the scrolling tho, I'll fire it over 150 millis I think when it reaches some height
@Graeme ty, I'll try! :D
 
Ragh, overriding the Views onSavedInstanceState and onRestoreInstanceState manually saving the visibility and everything works fine.... ANDROOOOOOOOOOIIIDDDD!!!!
 
Time to go~~
Cya later people!!!! :D
 
5:11 PM
cya wompers ~~
 
I'm in and out today...mostly out. Got a project to finish up by Wednesday. Hopefully early so I can leave work early to pack for my trip for Thanksgiving.
 
5:29 PM
o/
I know the "Migrate to androidx" feature in Android Studio isn't perfect, but is it still a good start? Am I better off using that and then going back through manually to make updates than I am looking at the class mapping myself?
 
Yes dlew has a script for the latter
 
I saw that post
 
Use the tool first. If it fucks up just hit reset
 
lol mine won't even start
I'm using gradle version 3.2.1 but it's telling me it needs at least 3.2.0
what a mess
 
5:44 PM
back
 
5:56 PM
I need a crazy check from you guys
View's should remember their visibility state right?
When restored from saved instance state?
 
:thinking:
I think so? but if you're recreating the entire activity maybe it does go back to whatever it's default was.
 
@AdamMc331 yup
@Graeme :thinking:
graeme if the activity is reloaded i dont think so
sup adam
 
Wha... But.. what...
How is that something I don't know
I just asked 4 senior developers here and they all agree it's saved.
Then I showed them my example where it's obviously not saving and we looked at the source code for View and it's not saving the visibility ....
 
that is something only you can tell
graeme and his weird issues lol
 
My gut instinct is to say that yes, it's saved, but if you told me that's not true I would believe that too because of activity recreation
 
6:07 PM
no it doesn't :D
 
:O
[surprised pikachu]
 
for activity recreation i am sure i have seen that it doesnt remember the state :D
lol is that emoji now?
 
o/
 
is the androidx migration really slow or am I frozen
 
could be both
 
6:09 PM
:|
 
trolled your friend who always tfti's you, 0 likes
 
O.O
 
last time I give Adam's friends shit on his behalf
 
Like, my mind refuses to believe that View's save so little of their state....
 
@AdamMc331 you are frozen
lmao dave
@DaveS tfti?
 
6:11 PM
it means thanks for the invite
 
oh
 
he has a friend who posts in on like 80% of what he posts
 
yep
 
oh yeah i have seen
adams post are all over my feeds lol
 
yeah mine too
makes me feel old
 
6:12 PM
xD
 
all these kids and their dang hip hop & memes
 
AS froze but after force quitting it looks like most of it was converted. Good start haha.
 
damn one guy is like trolling adam
makes me wanna troll that guy xD
 
just one?
we troll him every day
 
lol true
i mean in a annoying way
 
6:14 PM
I bet keystore jokes are pretty annoying after 3 years
but that's what makes it funny
 
hehe
 
I thought Carl's pinned message was a keystore joke until I saw the context.
 
xD same
 
lol
 
6:15 PM
hello
 
hello
 
guess what...
 
hello
maukerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr is here
 
Oh, no, it does save it's view state, in an integer which is masked to all hell called mPrivateFlags
 
faced another rejection today for junior - intermediate developer position
 
6:17 PM
@Graeme are you sure?
 
Yup
 
Sorry to hear that Nero. don't get discouraged
 
But it's not added to the flags in some instanced
 
it's the story of every graduate, right?
 
as i said i have seen that it doesn't restore the state when activity recreation happens
 
6:18 PM
Yeah you won't get every job you apply to obviously
 
ah makes sense then
 
sometimes it takes time to find the right fit
 
It totally does
 
Nero try try and rejection is part of parcel of life, dont worry about it too much :D
 
the fact that I was looking forward to this one ended up with bigger disappointment
but I guess y'all r right
 
6:20 PM
I think everyone I know has gotten turned down for a job at some point, don't take it personally
 
Where are you based in UK Nero?
 
that is why i love the indian way just open up your business
be your own boss :D
 
West Midlands
 
@ColdFire with a small loan from the king
 
6:21 PM
So, Birmingham?
 
which country is this?
 
@ColdFire lol but do what?
yep birmingham
 
oh a state in UK
 
county in the UK*
 
Should be loads of jobs in Birmingham.
 
6:22 PM
@DaveS haha naah the current government have a super scheme to get instant cheap loans for business , perks of having a business friendly government :D
is county different from state?
 
CF calling pops the government now
 
xD
 
technically it's true
 
Countys are much smaller than states and don't have the level of autonomy that states do
 
^
 
6:24 PM
They have some say of how budgets are spent, but they have no way of making local laws etc
 
ah
we dont have county concepts here
we have states ,region, district , panchayat
 
there is just royalty and peasants
 
They are like districts/regions
 
ah district we have here
 
CF, which part in India you from?
 
6:27 PM
Maharashtra
are you aware of Indian geography?
 
little bit... I was born in Punjab
 
oh a Indian
 
but I was brought into UK at the age of 11 so don't remember much
 
punjab cooool
its on my list to visit states
 
yeah... in Jalandhar
 
6:29 PM
What is today's talk subject?
 
oh nice
lets say i belong to one of the poorest region of my state :D
 
lol
 
well its true lol
my region is part of mh and still not part of it xD
 
confusing...
what's the job market like in India for developers?
 
not as good as the UK
 
6:41 PM
thinking about creating a jokes application
but where will I get the API from...
 
@Nero IT is good rest is meh
we need a strong manufacturing sector, increase our research spending by like maybe 10x , make more stuff in india, ban most of cheapo dump chinese products , infra at all cost
 
same with the UK
 
oh yeah and dump the oil
no more middle east bs
 
since UK is coming out of europe, there is big talk about UK failing
trust me...
Cold Fire, I got a genuine question to ask you... thinking about new project and want to approach the right method
 
i cannot stress more why we need to dump the oil , close those stupid coal power plants , electrify all our railways , boost electric cars ,adopt EV-6 standards for starters
nero sure
 
6:46 PM
@ColdFire BP is already taking care of dumping the oil
 
@Nero naah UK is not failing any time soon
BP?
 
bp is a petrol station i think
anyway, back to my question
let me structure the question properly first
 
The Deepwater Horizon oil spill (also referred to as the BP oil spill/leak, the BP oil disaster, the Gulf of Mexico oil spill, and the Macondo blowout) is an industrial disaster that began on 20 April 2010, in the Gulf of Mexico on the BP-operated Macondo Prospect, considered to be the largest marine oil spill in the history of the petroleum industry and estimated to be 8% to 31% larger in volume than the previous largest, the Ixtoc I oil spill. The U.S. government estimated the total discharge at 4.9 million barrels (210 million US gal; 780,000 m3). After several failed efforts to contain the...
 
lol nice
well we have already moved to EV-6 standards and electricifation of all routes is going on in fast mode so atleast we have that going for us
 
@Nero and a very large oil company
 
6:58 PM
@DaveS yo you don't know me anymore or what
 
@Code-Apprentice looks like Reliance for India then
you never got turn down tim?
 
Of course not. I know how to open a terminal
 
@DaveS interestingly, there is another ongoing spill in the Gulf of Mexico. It has leaked more than Deepwater Horizon since like 2004. The incident flies under the radar because there were no explosions involved.
 
i read about california fires, is it under control now?
that was sad
 
@TimCastelijns I know you lost your job as Protector of the Realm
 
7:02 PM
Most of the news coverage I hear is about all the displaced people. One town burned to the ground.
 
hey team, got a quick question (which I already know the answer to is 'No' but want to confirm)
there's a small MMO game for Android
is it possible to create a bot to automate actions on that game?
 
People aren't able to return to start because there are no basic services. No electricity, no grocery stores, etc.
 
so my app on top of the game to do clicking based on images and colours
 
@Nero The answer to "is it possible to do X?" is almost always "yes". The real question is how much time and effort will it take and is it worth it?
 
@Code-Apprentice good answer
but wanted to see if there is something like this in the market on android device
 
7:06 PM
You could probably do it on a rooted phone
idk if you can send touch events to other apps normally, that sounds like it would be a huge security flaw
 
hmmm.... true
 
Check accessibility service
 
true
 
posted on November 19, 2018 by Android Developers

Posted by Ben Murdoch, Software Engineer and Michael Wright, Android Framework Engineer The screen on a mobile device is critical to the user experience. The improved Adaptive Brightness feature in Android P automatically manages the display to match your preferences for brightness level so you get the best experience, whatever the current lighting environment. Screen brightness in Andr

 
7:17 PM
@TimCastelijns lol
even php dev's know that
 
Or do they?
 
busy mauker today?
 
@TimCastelijns 😂😂😂
 
7:34 PM
Argghhghghgh, today is just a string of random garbage
How do you switch your Android SDK source version? I'm targetting 28, but I'm debugging on a device running 23
And I have no idea how to make it step through v23
This suggests it "just works"
31
Q: Android Studio steps into wrong sdk source

John TwiggI've got the following build.gradle settings. compileSdkVersion 21 buildToolsVersion '21.1.1' defaultConfig { minSdkVersion 18 targetSdkVersion 21 } The problem is that when I step into Android SDK source on an KitKat device (19 on Genymotion or Device), it still insists on stepping i...

Which it doesn't
 
use compileSdk
 
7:53 PM
Can't, source code contains 28 api
inside if(api == 28) blocks
 
The girl I am dating now is doubting what she wants to do for study (she is about to switch)
But she has absolutely no idea what she wants, every suggestion falls down. I jokishly said: "jeez I'd almost assume you should do IT"
But now she is geniually interested, I have no idea what to do she is not good with computers, would it be a possibility for someone?
Can anybody "flip" 180 degrees like that
 
Depends if you think aptitude for programming is inbuilt
If you think it can be learned, no problem
 
Aptitiude?
Ah
 
I don't use much of the IT knowledge I had prior to starting my education
most of it was from using windows
 
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