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12:00 AM
I have so many bugs in this project lol
3 people aren't enough :P
 
LOL
the SO chat client?
sorry m8 I have too much css bullshit I need to deal with rn ;_;
putting together the hackberlin website!
 
Let's trade, I'll help with your CSS and you help with this ;)
 
LOL
 
Half serious ;)
 
what's your bug?
 
12:03 AM
Well, mainly images don't load lol
They used to, long ago, but now, nope
 
what does the logs say?
 
Nothing
It's alright lol, if you have time to clone and check it out, feel free.
 
what's the url?
still in the room15 repo?
 
The develop branch currently only loads room 15 while I finish the NavigationDrawer
Feel free to clone master and work on their and I'll merge
 
I'll look into it :)
 
12:07 AM
Hello, Android!
 
Ahmad I love you
Hello CA! You're welcome to work on the project too :)
 
I was just about to ping you.
 
IN THE NAME OF ANUBIAN, WE WILL FINISH THIS
 
what is your time frame?
 
It's just an open source project for the community lol
No time frame, just want to get this working
Time frame? Before I die.
 
12:09 AM
I am pretty busy this week and depending on how the job interview turns out tomorrow, I might be starting a new job in a few weeks.
 
Sweet! Where at?
 
I currently need to spend my spare coding time on this consulting project. I plan to finish it in the next week or two.
The job interview is for a small local company that does software for pharma companies.
talking about which...I need to look at their website to get a better idea of what they do.
I know it involves some data science and maybe ML.
 
12:48 AM
o/
 
\o
 
1:05 AM
\o Mauker and Mehdi
 
@Ahmad Such is life
 
@Code-Apprentice Awesome!!
 
yah, I'm excited.
Will start working with front end JavaScript. Hopefully I'll get a chance to work with the Python backend eventually.
 
Angular?
 
No, Radial
 
1:09 AM
I might actually google it and find a RadialJS framework XD
 
Raghavvvv, question
 
Can I get information about a user from Stackoverflow without logging into any API?
Like, from their ID
 
Public or private information?
Yeah, the API has a public interface
 
Public
 
1:10 AM
You're rate limited without an API key
But you can use it
I think it's like 2000reqs/day without a Key
 
That's per IP, right?
Yeah, that's fine lol
 
The code for that is in the room-15.com API github
 
@RaghavSood daaaaamn !!!!
 
We use an API key, but you can just skip that parameter
 
1:11 AM
honestly though, I think the JS community might really wanna take a break...
 
You shouldn't push your API keys :/
2
But thanks <3
 
@MehdiB. react
 
Much better imo, it's widely used even in the mobile world nowadays
 
yah, React Native
 
1:22 AM
Say I have a Nav drawer. How can I programmically add room names in the submenu?
I send a picture but I'm making food now.
 
I was told to look at React and Selenium before the interview. Worked through the Tic Tac Toe tutorial, so have a basic understanding there.
@TristanWiley ListView or RecyclerView
 
Selenium for testing?
 
1:51 AM
yes
 
Good luck man!
If it's a small company, You'll have a lot of fun there and will certainly ending up touching all their tech stack including ML
 
Okay, I decided I really like pomodori timer. It helps me stay on task for a 25 min chunk of time.
@MehdiB. I know there are at least 3 employees because their names are listed on their website. Might be a few more...not sure. I'll be sure to ask about that tomorrow.
 
2:09 AM
That includes iPads and Android btw
 
@TristanWiley I know, the stuff in the repo isn't the complete key. I remember looking up what I could safely publish, dunno what's missing though :P
It's not possible for someone to screw with our r15 account using the stuff in the repo
 
user457812
@AndroidDev Yes.
 
user457812
Don't need a poll, just fill in yes for the human population.
 
2:25 AM
Lol
 
2:36 AM
Ahh yes
Only room-15.com is whitelisted to use our API key
> Pass this as key when making requests against the Stack Exchange API to receive a higher request quota.

This is not considered a secret, and may be safely embed in client side code or distributed binaries.
 
 
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4:33 AM
o/
 
o/
and good night
\o
 
lol night
 
4:52 AM
GM ALL :3
 
5:08 AM
GoodMorning \o/
 
I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's effortless. — gsamaras May 9 '16 at 9:13
 
 
1 hour later…
6:21 AM
morning
 
\o
 
o/
 
6:48 AM
Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Morning Everyone!!!! :D
@Ahmad sneaker head???
 
7:03 AM
hey Womp!
 
Hiya Warren!!! :D
 
7:17 AM
@TimCastelijns ahahaha brilliant :D
o/
 
Hi everyone! Has anyone worked on Augmented Reality?
 
yahh.. brilliant design by Tim
 
Hiya Mark, Partha, jafarbtech!!! :D
 
7:36 AM
:)
 
7:48 AM
\o
 
o/
 
Partha: we have someone in this room who wrote a book about AR :D
 
I heard the code in the book is really really bad though
 
dunno, still waiting for the free exemplar from my padawan
 
he is very stingy
 
8:27 AM
no, he will surely provide a free edition
atleast for our room-15 members ;)
 
o/
and yeah that book is really really bad
and there is a "free copy"
it's the fifth link at google if you search for it
 
ohh... thats good
 
16
A: There's something wrong with the blog logo

Jon ChanI mean...I don't even...okay. It's fixed.

lmao
 
8:48 AM
my girlfriend graduated from her master's today :D
 
o/
congrats to her
 
\o
thanks
actually with some help from dave and mauker :P
 
Congrats to her!!! ヽ(>ᗜ<)ノ
 
Congrats to her :) You must be proud Tim!
 
mostly I am relieved. She was very nervous about the possibility of having failed the thesis
 
9:07 AM
what was the subject?
 
effects of location based advertising on purchasing behavior
if you are in a supermarket and you get an ad for a kind of wine, are you more or less likely to buy it, for example
that kind of stuff
 
I literally work on location based advertising :)
 
interesting
 
so you are behind this: "Man, you are awesome. You need more condoms just to be sure!" Ads I get on a hourly basis...
 
9:23 AM
oh snap you are our competitor then @ocus
 
Nobody is my competitor on here
 
9:38 AM
what's your company @MuratK. ?
 
o/
 
9:49 AM
\o
 
10:42 AM
o/
@TimCastelijns Congrats to both of you guys!
 
thanks
 
11:29 AM
o/
@TimCastelijns Congratz! :D
 
thanks
 
 
1 hour later…
I don't understand why SO is creating a Channel feature, I thought all knowledge should be public.
 
1:14 PM
@LawGimenez what's a Channel feature??
 
Hello, Android!
 
Hello CA!
 
Word
 
o/
@LawGimenez From what I understand it's just a project management space, no? where you and your teams can aggregate the technical resources you find and comment or discuss or whatever
 
oh
so you think that could hurt the contribution to the main SO?
 
1:58 PM
bah, SQ spiked up to almost 26.00 this morning and then dropped to my buy price of 25.50...and then kept dropping ;-(
I need to learn more about options.
 
o/
 
yeah
It's roughly the size of Delaware
 
2:29 PM
Our company is sorting out a pension scheme for us all
feels weird knowing I'll be getting set up on a pension scheme
 
already talked about mine
feeling old
 
when you go to the doctor, are you reimbursed by the company's insurance?
 
no
 
oh.. that sucks
 
I get free healthcare, NHS and all that
Well atm I do, I guess the NHS will be gone soon
 
2:35 PM
I get 90% reimbursed (100% for married people)
 
hm, it's free healthcare here
 
oh, here it's free only on state hospitals, but you always have to wait 3h or more before your turn comes
so you just end up going to private clinics and doctors and get reimbursed (65% by the social security and the rest by the employers insurance)
 
3:06 PM
but it's not the same for dental care
had to pay almost everything from my own pocket
 
3:21 PM
user image
2
 
Whee cryptos are rising
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go for a swim
In money
 
all $3 that you earned?
 
More like $1.5
 
He can swim in $0.01 coins
 
3:25 PM
Square is back up! But my stop loss kicked in on eTrade...
 
3:48 PM
damn
looks nice
now
the 6k
 
@MuratK. Thank you, you're very nice.
 
You too!
 
3:59 PM
this is reaaally cool! microsoft.com/en-us/seeing-ai
 
o/
 
o/
 
\o
 
4:07 PM
approaching interview time.
 
where are you interviewing?
 
We're hiring in Philadelphia and San Francisco if anyone's interested
 
We're hiring in Singapore: coinhako.com/join_us
 
Time to go~~
Cya people!!! :D
 
4:15 PM
Enjoy Paella
 
Good Paella Womp
 
Byella
 
@CarlAnderson Woo!
@eski Or Paeye
 
o/
 
o/
 
4:22 PM
\o
 
Pic I took on my last trip
 
You're supposed to be sightseeing, not clicking mirror selfies, Mauker!
2
 
Shut up stupid machine
 
I don't know, but its feet remind me of Tarantulas
(good picture though)
 
Thanks
 
4:28 PM
user image
11
 
yeah, you're looking good
raghavbot's just jealous
 
@CarlAnderson Lol, this is great
 
4:47 PM
o/
 
o/
 
g'morning dave
 
@RaghavSood but.... I'm not eating anything...
 
Womp, look at the monkey
 
so cute
 
5:07 PM
o/
@CarlAnderson this creeping me out
but I like it
 
posted on July 12, 2017 by Android Developers

Posted by Martin Pelikan, Giles Hogben, and Ulfar Erlingsson of Google's Security and Privacy team Mobile apps entertain and assist us, make it easy to communicate with friends and family, and provide tools ranging from maps to electronic wallets. But these apps could also seek more device information than they need to do their job, such as personal data and sensor data from components, like c

 
I'm going to get that printed in poster size and wear it on halloween
With LEDs
 
@carl you might like this
 
This is good
 
@Ahmad That sounds great, also, the second comment down on there: "paused a porn for this"
><
 
5:21 PM
hahaha!
 
lool
this is really nice eski!
 
yeah I find some good ones from that channel sometimes
 
I didn't know them, it sounds better with coffee and the fresh wind coming from the window :D
not sure if that's your thing but
 
@MuthukrishnanRajendran you have write access, please start by reading the rules completely: room-15.github.io
 
I kid you not, read the rules.
Or feel the power of the mighty carl
 
5:35 PM
@Carl thanks, i read
 
Welcome, but you've already violated 2 of the rules, so I don't know that I believe you.
 
I have read and understood the rules
 
Good, welcome!
 
thanks
 
puts down bancannon
:(
2
 
5:40 PM
how are you today Muthukrishna?
 
Not that Good.
 
why's that?
 
Too much work and delivery.
 
@iismathwizard Welcome! Please read, confirm reading, and follow the room rules before you do anything else: room-15.github.io
 
I have read and understood the rules
 
5:42 PM
grabs popcorn Raghav is eager to ban someone today I can feel it bamboozled again
 
Goddammit
:(
 
thanks iis, welcome
 
I read them yesterday while I was waiting :)
 
The universe is against me
 
That may be, but it's for once in favor of our sanity.
 
5:44 PM
iis, unfortunately we don't have 24/7 room owner coverage, so requests are missed sometimes
 
@AdamMc331 Can a bot be sane?
 
Not Raghav's.
 
Betrayed by the universe and Adam
 
@CarlAnderson that's fine! I just had a question that I wasn't entirely sure the answer too. I did some research myself and looked around but was unable to come up with a true, definitive answer given my particular circumstance
 
If the question is "Why doesn't this work right on Android?", the answer is "Android."
 
5:45 PM
No no no haha
The question is regarding the android documentation on stackoverflow (stackoverflow.com/documentation/android/topics if you're not aware)
 
what's the question?
 
How much curl would a curling Carl curl if a curling Carl could curl Carl?
 
all of the curl
 
I was looking around at topics that are requested and I noticed that someone requested "Security" as a topic. Many people upvoted it. Being someone who is fairly knowledgeable about android security I figured that this would be an awesome way to contribute to the documentation. My question is this: Due to the very general and broad nature of security with regards to android, how general/broad should I be with my answers?
 
@AmyJane You need at least 80 rep to talk here
 
5:49 PM
stackoverflow.com/tour/documentation this states that one should "Keep example counts manageable" but is self cited as being SO's opinion and not necessarily what should be true
 
I haven't used the SO doc site yet
but I would try to be pretty specific
 
I looked around and didn't find many large example count topics (but I feel this may be due to the lack of participation in the beta)
 
discuss things like cert pinning
encryption of password/credentials
 
I haven't used it much either, but I would definitely avoid very broad things - articles already do that
^
 
OAuth
 
5:50 PM
Specific, on point examples would be ideal imo
 
i have a very large outline of topics I wanted to cover from modern cryptography in android to cert pinning, generating clean ssl dependency chains, to SafetyNet
I was going to make code examples for all of these
not just "general information on the net"
 
It would be very good if you could make all that
 
if i had a data structure in which i was never interested in searching by any specific field, i just wanted the entire list of objects
tell me why i wouldnt just have a sqlite table consisting of an primary key id and a blob representing the entire object
as opposed to columns and joined tables and etc
 
@TimCastelijns would be happy to
 
So, on that note, do you all think it would be acceptable to enumerate all of the different points of security in android that I would feel comfortable discussing on that topic request?
 
5:53 PM
I would not find it out of place
 
Hmm.. Alright, thank you all for your assistance. I'll try to have most of it done in a couple of weeks. It will take some time to create all of those verifiable examples.
@CarlAnderson regarding your suggestion, would you like to see an OAuth example on there?
 
As someone who has already had the OAuth code written for me in the apps I've maintained, yes, it would be nice to have a straightforward doc to reference if I ever need to write it myself.
@AKASHDEEPKATIYAR you need 80 rep to talk here.
 
Hmm alright. I probably wouldn't make it on the first pass but I'll add it to my list going forward.
OAuth will take some time :p
 
6:10 PM
not surprising
 
Who summoned me
Who wakes me from slumber
 
That is not the gif I wanted but okay
I suppose that fits "disturb me from my slumber"
Was hoping for the aladdin sphinx gif
 
6:50 PM
yo yo, peeps
 
^ cM
 
:D
 
When someone reports a bug, and you look into it only to find there's two bugs: media.giphy.com/media/VJf18f1vO04F2/giphy.gif
 
7:11 PM
when you open a client's previously developed code
 
so you guys know the movie the room
 
7:29 PM
I know the ORM room
 
😍 Shop till you drop!🤳 Great little ARKit hackathon project by @TheGingerPixel done @redbubble 🙌… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/883284719231799298
 
7:45 PM
@JMRboosties not sure about your object, but you can store a whole json object as a string, no?
 
yes, its perfectly techincally possible
just trying to think of any reasons why i might regret it
 
performance reasons
 
what's with the movie?
 
But if he's always retrieving all the fields, that shouldn't be a problem normally, no?
 
it depends on a bunch of circumstances
how many he needs to parse, and how big they are
 
7:55 PM
true
 
@Ahmad this is fun. Thanks.
 
:)
 
@JMRboosties I typically turn JSON responses into POJOs immediately when I get them and generate JSON at the last possible second. The only reason I wouldn't do that is if the JSON structure is not knowable in advance.
Or if I'm just reading a response and don't need to store the contents of the JSON
 
unrelated question: do you usually make your POJOs parcelable or do you only pass primitive extras then fetch the whole object on the second activity?
 
I don't really use parcelable at the moment, though I did once but I forget the use case
for the grill app we store the data in a singleton so that live updates from the service can be immediately reflected in the UI
 
8:07 PM
I see, we used a singleton on a project and things got out of hand. Everybody started to store whatever objects there and it created some memory issues
 
we have a database for local stored user stuff like profiles and a singleton for grill data
and shared prefs for well, prefs
POJOs are generated from either server responses in JSON or parsing byte arrays, and usually refer to grill data, so it ends up in the singelton
 
how do you generate your POJOs? manually or through Jackson or another lib?
 
well we use Parse SDK mostly so it handles that for us, I just convert Parse object columns into POJO fields, but when I do parse JSON I usually use the JSON classes native in Android and make POJOs manually with it.
 
i use gson, and then a custom database io class i built to read member vars and turn them into content values, or take cursors and turn them into objects
im just thinking to myself whats the point of making like a table with 20 columns and tables that it would need to join to and stuff when im not searching on anything, just retrieving the list of said objects
 
I think it's cheaper to convert a row to a POJO than parse the string again
and it's going to be more useful for unforseen future use cases
 
8:16 PM
what i was thinking was that you would have the model representing the object
and just have a to/from json method in it
well really youd just use gson for that
 
right but once it's a POJO I wouldn't store it as JSON again. I'd store the object properly
 
so the object exists to be used in the app and etc, the only think im trying to excise is the need for the complicated db structure when it really does nothing for me that just a blob column doesnt also do
hm, ok
 
you could just store the memory address contents and store that as a single column value and hard cast the value to a POJO, but that's essentially reading from a database
 
I do that with Jackson as well, then I use my POJOs normally in my code and once I need to store my POJO my small ORM stores it following my SQLIte table scheme
Json.buildModel (jsonString / jsonNode, User.class) ==> User object
work with the user object as a normal POJO
user.insert/update ();
 
I think Firebase is trying to put Branch out of business: firebase.googleblog.com/2017/06/…
 
8:22 PM
#FeedBranchToTheFire
 
9:39 PM
@Ahmad have you seen this?
 
@MehdiB. wipe it from memory
 
10:00 PM
Done!
 
10:16 PM
@CarlAnderson looool
 
"guten abend, bitte eine nürnberger bratwürstel"
 
10:35 PM
o/
 
Magst du fettiges Fleischpole Ahmad?
 
11:59 PM
Yayyy!
I love when something works without me sacrificing a goat.
 

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