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12:00 AM
> RETURN TO NORMAL HUMAN CONDUCT.
Do you know what that is?
 
user457812
Nope, but I assume it involves cats and bats and parrots.
 
I think you make codeMagic's point;-)
 
That's pretty much not what it involves
 
user457812
Then you aren't petting enough cats.
 
user457812
12:06 AM
Or parrots.
 
user457812
Or looking at bats and thinking they're cute.
 
user457812
Though most people look at bats and they immediately assume it has rabies because that myth got really popular.
 
I think cats must involve some form of human contact, at least by looking at YouTube;-)
 
12:29 AM
Good day android programmers
 
o/
 
user457812
I have something like 120 tabs open
 
user457812
Need to stop hoarding tabs
 
12:44 AM
@nil LOL hoarding tabs
 
o/
 
Hey, Emm
 
hey magic
what are you up to?
 
Just trying to forget about this day and watch the Cubs lose. Lol
 
user457812
I'm bored and kind of want another presidential election so I can watch people just turn into absolutely horrible ghouls
 
12:55 AM
LOL cM
 
A couple I work with wants me to build an app for their photography business. So I might give that a go
Deal a lot with uploading pictures to a website so doesn't sound real exciting but we will see
 
1:12 AM
Retrofit + Picasso + magic ~ >=$7,000
3
 
Haha...thanks. I will try those
Picasso I know I wanted to check out. Retrofit I had forgotten about but I will check that out, as well
 
user457812
1:28 AM
Also throw in $3k to justify using RxJava.
 
user457812
Note: I know nothing about determining prices for things.
 
1:48 AM
4 hours ago, by Ahmad
in other news: I'm learning R.
Gave up R. Now I'm back to my original plan for plotting graphs. D3.js.
 
user457812
Why?
 
user457812
wat
 
user457812
And people call me bad at sticking to one thing
 
> R is an automatically generated file and it should not be modified
 
heh :p
 
user457812
1:49 AM
throws Emmanuel out the airlock
 
there was the clue Ahmad, anything that has to do with R should not be touched (or learned)
 
So as to why: I can only plot graphs with R, but real interactive and fancy stuff with D3.js.
 
user457812
I still want to learn Erlang but seriously have no conceivable use for it
 
Got convoked after looking at some of the D3.js examples
lol emmanuel
 
ERRRRRRlang
ERRRR denotes the frustration of learning it, it is warning you with its name
 
1:52 AM
lol
 
Anyone have any good Web frameworks in any lang?
 
flask
(python)
 
I hear that Python and Flask are great
 
you hear right
 
I think it was Ahmad that told me ;-)
 
user457812
1:56 AM
I can't imagine doing anything serious with Python due to the performance issues inherent in it
 
Try Django
 
can I do my python programming in Android Studio? It is IntelliJ after all.
 
user457812
I would recommend people use Django over Ruby on Rails
 
user457812
Wait, is Django on Python 3 yet?
 
user457812
If it isn't, don't use it. Also don't use Rails because screw Rails.
 
1:59 AM
wut
 
user457812
The whole Python 3 switch has been unusually catastrophic for the Python community, so I think it's important to just drop anything that doesn't update.
 
@Code-Apprentice you can use PyCharm
 
Is that the update that makes u use "()"?
 
I might have to look into that
 
I think Django is already on Python 3.
 
user457812
2:00 AM
For print, yes.
 
yea, y u hate ror?
 
user457812
Because it's made Ruby's community into one full of annoying Rails users.
 
user457812
Nobody talks about Ruby anymore, it's just Rails.
 
true
 
user457812
2:01 AM
The other problem is that Rails itself is an over-engineered piece of slow garbage
 
Well I got stuck in a Ruby class at school next year so im making my site w/ ror so i can work on in the class
 
user457812
The proper way to use Rails is to write code in Rails, then see that it's slow but you can't afford to switch, so you rewrite it in C and then write bindings for Rails.
 
From what Ive wrote, my biggest query is like 20ms
 
user457812
Ruby is a great language. Rails, on the other hand, needs to collectively jump off an apartment complex roof.
 
user457812
Also all the people who call fancy APIs DSLs.
 
2:08 AM
So I have a nightmare website client. They just sent me 37 files that seam to be labeled by their Checksum, sweet. See ya in 10 years.
 
user457812
What kind of checksum?
 
morning bai @LawGimenez
 
I don't know, Example name: 6A568CFB39F8A3AB6FDB18F7B5C9C107.pdf
Which is his presentation from a seminar in Baltimore by the looks of its contents.
 
user457812
Weird.
 
As a freelance web dev. Can I fire a client, like a doctor can fire a patient?
 
user457812
2:13 AM
Yes.
 
user457812
You'll obviously want to have that covered in your contract, though.
 
Sweet, whats the most polite way to do that? besides saying, "YO Fu***ard U SUCK"
 
user457812
If you did not sign a contract, you might want to consult a lawyer.
 
user457812
I would suggest consulting a lawyer in general, really.
 
Well, I think I'm gona write a script to rename these files by their title. Charging doubletime though
 
user457812
2:16 AM
Could just ask them to provide useful filenames.
 
* * I have a feeling I will be needing this script again * *
besides, ive always wanted to write a pdf parser
 
django definitely supports python3
 
user457812
Good on them for not being one of the jerks who's going, "no, I don't like it, it has a THREE."
 
But nil, 3's are really scary
 
@Sahriarrahmansupto Welcome. please read the room rules, obey them, and sacrifice to them or...well, you don't want to know what and I don't want to say what will happen
 
2:27 AM
Last time he said, it was so scary that S3 shit itself and shutdown for 3 hours.
 
I don't prefer it to python2, but I am in the process of switching
 
@Wio Welcome. Please read the room rules
 
how do I configure this server?!!!
 
Depends what type
 
I am going nuts
 
2:29 AM
Have you tried turning it off and back on again, Emmanuel?
 
I am trying to host 2 webpages on my server
 
Don't worry, I have done this so many times that I am to crazy to go anymore crazy
 
:@ at magic
 
what is the server app? apache? nginx?
 
I don't know what in the hell that means
 
2:30 AM
on an apache server
 
And u want to do what?
 
Morning @Laux what's good lately homie?
 
I get one of the domains to work fine
 
Tried Rails. And it was too much!
 
the other domain is just not working...
so here is the deal
my VPS provider has a CPanel service
that it does the DNS nameserver stuff
 
Wio
2:32 AM
Do you guys have opinions on using anonymous classes for events, versus setting the xml property to point to some function in the activity?
 
and they asked me for a domain to put and I put the first domain
and I did and it works fine
 
Ahahaha talk like a gaster ah @LawGimenez
 
now I do not have a way to add a second domain
I can either add and Add on domain
 
I was a gangster before @Laux =)
 
or a parked domain
 
2:33 AM
It is mostly just preference, Wio
 
LOL really? @LawGimenez
 
I often prefer xml, when it's fitting
 
Geek stereotype for programmers does not apply to me.
 
@Emmanuel Can you access the raw domain file?(Forget the official name)
 
what do you mean by raw?
 
2:34 AM
Just kidding LOL!
 
@LawGimenez Ka ASIONg
 
Wio
codeMagic, somehow the anonymous classes bother me. It probably is just the indentation
 
like u have a ui to add the domain, normally u would have to go into a text file and add them manually.
 
And we're officially now on Gradle build.
=)
 
atka ga gradle na
 
2:34 AM
Me too. That's part of the reason I prefer xml. I feel it is cleaner but that's just me
 
Wio
Even when I'm doing Javascript, callback's have always made me feel like my code is unclean
 
I believe it is called the CNAME file
 
I have to do it through the GUI
no other way
 
Agreed
 
Wio
2:37 AM
When you have logic/functionality for list views, do you like to put it in the adapter or the activity? This is another design convention I've been wondering about
 
@Emmanuel Screenshot of domain adding ui?
 
It depends but I like to try and keep it with the adapter usually
 
@Emmanuel So why can't you just add another A record?
 
because it automatically appends a emmano.me at the end of the new domain
so it ends up being
mydomain.com.emmano.me
 
2:45 AM
whats ur hosting provider?
 
Wio
I'm still somewhat new to Android, but a lot of things have started to click recently. The only thing I'm still very fuzzy about is data persistence
 
Here this helps
 
Wio
Thanks Noah, I'll read through that.
 
my hosting provider is Ramnode
 
Wio
My hope is to get to the point where I am not afraid to allow the user to tilt their phone, lol.
 
2:48 AM
lol
 
Wio
Without just trying to throw everything into shared preferences.
 
any pointers Noah?
 
@Emmanuel Googling the shit outa everything
 
I have for the past 2 days...
 
2:50 AM
Well then, try emailing support, usually they help, usually...
 
I just did that...
let's see if they respond...
 
Wio
Right now my app is making http requests to get data, and I'm thinking of a way to sort of cache the data so that I don't use up too much bandwidth
 
lol, sidenote, chrome can't figure out usauly => usually but it can figure out that checklslvocia => Czechoslovakia
 
Wio
Noah, would you store images in the database?
 
I guess you could do something where you store the raw data, like this => this image
but thats a bad idea. i think. thats alot of data.
 
Wio
3:01 AM
Is there a good way to store images?
 
I'm off to bed, folks
Have a good night
 
Wio
Good night
 
Windows: I can not delete this file, i need permission from you, gives it permision Windows: I can not delete this file, i dont have permission from you, Goes and deletes contents starting 2 dirs down and working way up, it works, wtf windows
 
3:18 AM
 
Wio
3:32 AM
I'll look into that, thanks
 
user457812
Going to cross-post this because of the sheer insanity of the bug I just found in Swift:
 
user457812
 
Wio
I wonder, do you have to programatically create a TextWatcher and override it, or is there an XML way of specifying the functionality...
 
user457812
Pretty sure that has to be done programmatically.
 
Wio
That is a bummer
 
3:50 AM
I am officially an idiot
I should pin that
 
 
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5:44 AM
morning
 
6:08 AM
morning
 
6:20 AM
morning
 
 
1 hour later…
7:25 AM
morning
who is using gradle ?
 
for production?
 
Yep. Just switched today actually.
 
I see, any thoughts ?
 
No problems so far
 
7:39 AM
that's nice... I am still kind of skeptic
 
8:04 AM
It's the middle of winter, and I'm here with a T-shirt and shorts. Oh, and there was a bushfire. I guess climate change isn't a thing...
 
the tube to work is always so hot, I need to start wearing shorts
 
8:58 AM
why I can't add a LinearLayout to a custom viewgroup!
 
9:56 AM
NullPointer's everywhere! everywhere!
 
Morning
 
10:32 AM
So many null pointers because I inflated the wrong layout.. I'm such an idiot
 
 
1 hour later…
11:36 AM
posted on July 31, 2014 by Lucas Rocha

What if writing custom view recycling layouts was a lot simpler? This question stuck in my mind since I started writing Android apps a few years ago. The lack of proper extension hooks in the AbsListView API has been one of my biggest pain points on Android. The community has come up with different layout […]

 
12:22 PM
o/
 
hi
 
what's up bb?
oh nice, the feeds work!
usually it only works for the android dev blog
 
nothing special on my side... what bout you?
 
I'm digging into making fancy graphs with D3.js
let's see how this goes
 
js is javascript?
 
12:29 PM
yeah
 
looks impressive
 
o/
 
Hi!
 
hi cM
 
android.database.StaleDataException: Attempted to access a cursor after it has been closed. android.database.BulkCursorToCursorAdaptor.throwIfCursorIsClosed(BulkCursorToCur‌​sorAdaptor.java:64)
can anyone resolve or explain me to solve this error while accessing data from sqlite
 
12:42 PM
no we can't
the error is obvious
google first, yo
 
Yo, brosuf
 
bro already did that
no solution is there for this issue
 
obr goggle is your friedn
 
He's right...none here
Haha...you are really on it today, bb
 
yeah I son't see anything there
maybe we should try a bing search
 
12:45 PM
Have you seen the javadocs on android? Maybe read the documentation on this exception class.
 
or yahoo
 
Beat me to it, Ahmad
 
hhaha
is bing still alive?
 
altavista, anyone?
 
wow.. I am feeling old now :/
 
12:46 PM
That's because you are
 
cursor is not closed still it's throwing that exception
 
hahah
you are rigth orb
 
you might as well close the cursor then, since it clearly wants to be closed
don't let it be open in misery
 
close the damn curor! Were you born in a barn?!?
 
lol
 
12:51 PM
o/
 
Sorry, flashback from my childhood
Hey, Emm
 
I figured out the domain thing!
 
was it 196.168.0.1
 
127.0.0.1, we went over this...lol
 
what was it?
 
1:06 PM
@MrSuS Welcome. Please read the room rules
 
the hell is a curor?
oh
 
more efficient cursor from Android L
 
Haha
 
Did you know that Eskimos have 50 different emoji for snow?!
 
@RickiMaru rejected for low SO activity and no chat history to go on. Please go be productive and come back
@Mann rejected for now for using chatspeak, indian or something else I don't understand
 
1:13 PM
is there a way to have a listview not scroll?
my entire layout needs a scrollview now instead of just the list within
 
it's certainly possible but really hackish
you really don't want that
I wish the ListView in Android would be more like in iOS where you can just scroll it way with the main container
and can place things beneath it without having to add them to the liatview footer
@mann rejected.
 
I need to add an image at the top, some text, then the listview, then text at the bottom, plus another image
hmmm
ah I see what you mean, I can do all of that with a header and footer
 
Pre-meeting in 20 minutes then meeting after that...awesome!
Yes, of course we have meetings about meetings
 
you are not the only one broaht
 
lol
 
1:25 PM
then a post meeting to try to remember what just went on
 
full-meta
 
That's good to know, bb
Haha, RED
 
do you have a recap meeting afterward? to discuss what took place during the meeting?
weren't previous years IO app source available before/during the event?
 
yes
 
1:31 PM
nope
 
2010 was I think
 
they were released after IO, no?
Yeah 2010 it was available before the event
 
I just like that app because i'm listed in it :)
 
really? :D
did you give a talk?
 
Actually, Foamy, sometimes we do have recap meetings or at least emails
 
1:34 PM
no but I was Teaching assistant at one of the sessions
 
you don't work for a certain "nations 3rd largest mobile carrier who is based out of overland park KS, that shall remain nameless" do you?
 
nice DalmTo! :D
 
I didn't know about the Application Data folder I am going to have to play with that tonight
@Ahmad I didn't do much, mostly stood there looking like I know what I'm talking about and pointed ppl in the right direction.
 
lol
but still awesome
 
Looks great on my CV :)
 
1:39 PM
how did you end up doing that? volunteer?
 
I am a Google Developer Expert they asked us if we where willing to help out at some of the sessions.
 
well that's quite impressive in itself
 
I am still getting used to it.
 
The pre-meeting went well. But everything we discussed will change during our meeting with the salesmen/founders
So, yeah productive
 
2:07 PM
Exploring Android Internals and Android Apps : fr.slideshare.net/mometan/an-devconiii-moetanabianv14ssh
 
Y my swipe to dismiss no work now?
 
2:19 PM
@user3336236 rejected for low SO activity and default username
 
 
is that what happened?
 
yes
there's no concrete battery yet
(afaik)
> Battery Life 'Holy Grail' Discovered. Phones May Last 300% Longer
and
> In a paper published in scientific journal Nature Nanotechnology, researchers at Stanford University report they have designed a pure lithium anode with the potential to increase the capacity of existing battery technology 400%.
"may last 300% longer", "with the potential"
 
also designed and not created
 
yup
 
3:08 PM
and it will only unexpectedly burst into flames every now and then
 
only once a month though
so still tolerable
 
So basically a standard Galaxy phone battery?
 
lol
 
3:27 PM
@user3820896 Heya, you cant chat here until you earn at least 20 reputation. Mean while you can see chat of others and learn if you find it useful. Also contribute on SO by asking and answering questions ^^
How does it sound ? :D Ahmad
 
hey people
 
Hey, TGM!
 
I really hope that battery tech comes through
since batteries have been lagging behind
 
does anyone here have battery trouble though?
since we work around computers with pur phones
 
I have battery trouble in that I have to charge it all the fucking time.
 
3:37 PM
I charge mine at night then maybe once throughout the day for maybe an hour
 
mine is always plugged in for debugging apps so I never have a problem
 
Funny (relevant)story...
 
the other night my phone came unplugged when I was sleeping
 
My mom told me the other day that her battery wasn't lasting so she brought it over so I could look and see what she had running and whatnot
 
such a terrible feeling waking up to see my phone is in the red already :P
 
3:38 PM
I'm looking at it, noticed she had been using Maps to find her way somewhere...
 
And it was my house ZING!
 
I told her that's going to use up some battery so she might have to plug it in throughout the day if she's navigating....
I then asked her how often she had to charge it...
She said, "Well, I took it off the charger at 8 this morning and now it's almost dead"
 
lol @Glitch
 
Glitch wins the story, sorry
 
#rekt
 
3:39 PM
This was about 8 at night...I handed it back to her and told her to go home and be happy it lasted all day
Haha...just saw that
 
my parents still have dumbphones
and the battery lasts for days
 
I will gladly start sending her to you for tech support, Glitch
 
i just ignore everything my dad says about his Galaxy S2, because i don't want to touch that phone
 
Someday will come when we'll use a solar charger to charge our smart phones.
 
well, I need to go find some lunch
afk
 
3:42 PM
I look forward to the day where my smartphone runs off my blood.
 
how would that work when most people keep their phones in their pockets?
(for solar)
 
Solar powered clothing.
 
I'm getting sunned on right now it's the worst.
 
nobody ever talks about the benefits to climate change, super hot sun, our batteries will finally last a day!
 
3:43 PM
That's the only extreme energy we have which will never end.
(Solar energy)
 
I await the day for portable nuclear fusion packs
hopefully that will charge my future smartphone for the day
 
I wish this comes true.
 
I want to buy one of those portable charging packs
 
Hi, Android!
 
Heya Guru
 
3:46 PM
Hey Guru!
 
Ahmad, I guess everyone will want the same whoever is using smart phones.
 
the sun will blow up eventually, it's just that the earth will be void of life before that
 
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