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12:00 AM
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what i'm trying to do is.. I have in my database a lot of contacts, some of them have the same contact_id. So I want to print a list with the contact name, and the contacts with the same contact_id will be shown the contact_name and when the user clicks the item, it will expands showing the numbers for the contact with that id. got it?
java http://paste.ubuntu.com/1068604/
xml http://paste.ubuntu.com/1068605/
 
Probably better to post on SO. I have no experience using databases on Android. My gut thought would be to compile a Person class with a list of number, and an ArrayList of persons, and then for the group getView, get from the persons list, and for the child getView, get from the persons.get(i) numbers list.
 
it's like, if a user add a home and a mobile number for a contact. I want to list the names, and when the user clicks the name of this contact, if it has two numbers, it will expand showing both numbers
@kcoppock I've found an example on the API Demos. I'm gonna check it. =)
 
k, good luck. :)
 
are u on G+?
 
Technically, but I don't use it.
 
12:16 AM
back to the Nexus Q subject. I think it's a big step to home automation, since they provide a API or something like drivers connecting, it would be great!
 
Well, figured out why my ActionBar overflow wasn't showing...hadn't configured my emulator to have softkeys. facepalm
Eh, maybe so, we'll see what happens. Not going to buy something on promises of what it might be able to do.
I say this as I'm awaiting September and my pre-ordered Pebble from Kickstarter...
 
12:33 AM
I'm about to finish my app, but I'm so tired, just need to finish a unique feature and it will be ready. It's like Swim and Swim and die on the beach. I'm gathering all kind of strength to finish it. I'm so sleepy and tired!
 
you can make individual items in a listview not clickable, correct?
 
@Atlos ??
 
nevermind I figured it out
 
1:07 AM
sitepoint.com/writing-your-first-android-app-2/#.T-_MYpEw3Gg : It says here, after getting the java runtime enviorment and eclipse and installing the ADT Plugin to "Select Android, and then for the SDK Location, browse to where you installed the Android SDK Tools, and select that. Click Apply, then OK."
did i just here gunshots. Someones bustin hollow tips.
 
@kcoppock you still here?
 
is the SDK location where the ANDROID SDK Manager is
 
believe so
 
user457812
So much refactoring
 
1:12 AM
sounds fun lol
im going to the gym I'll think about my question there for now lol
cya all in 1.5 hours
 
I have a further question on minSdkVersion and targetSDKVersion: I am doing a form app but haven't developed with Android before so I am gonna learn some basics and what I need from a tutorial for a basic form app. I am first gonna do a basic form and then work on multiple mini things to get the knowledge for the project. should I just install the newest version on android and set the
minSDKVersion to the smallest and targetSDK to the largest for the practice untill i figure out what the minSDKVersion and targetSDKVersion will be? Can I change the min and target of the project after i start coding?
 
1:32 AM
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@nil you "deactivated" your facebook account. hehehehh
 
user457812
Which will be deleted soonish
 
1:53 AM
@nil they do that? I think if you login next year, it still will be there. They never delete ur data I guess.
 
user457812
They delete your data if you fill out the form to delete your data.
 
@nil good to know...
 
user457812
I'm still going over my data to make sure I have what I need.
 
great
now let me have fun with CursorTreeAdapter. Long night of working.
programming on my Ubuntu 12.04 on my 24" screen makes me happier and productive!
 
user457812
I want my retina MBP.
 
user457812
1:58 AM
That's nice, but I will.
 
@nil whatever. how much is it btw??
 
user457812
$2300 for the base model with 16gb of RAM including taxes.
 
Can someone help me
 
new ADT is better than ever!
oh dear.. apple is so ridiculous!
ohh I see, there is a coincidence between GN and iPhone.. GN is a phone! hehehhh
 
user457812
2:24 AM
Facebook made me reactivate my account so I could request it be permanently deleted, which in turn deactivated the account once again
 
user457812
I felt a little twinge of regret, but I feel that way over deleting just about everything, especially any file I don't remember downloading in my downloads directory.
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I meant to say nevermind sorry i didin't restate my question
 
2:52 AM
@ChrisOkyen Yes, you can change your min and target SDK versions at any time. You may, however, find that you've used a newer API call on accident if you keep it at a higher target.
 
3:12 AM
@kcoppock I was wondering if you could shed some light on the FragmentPagerAdapter class
it doesn't make sense to me that we have to override the getItem and getCount methods
 
Why?
 
Shouldn't that be the same each time?
Why are they making me implement my own way of doing it?
 
FragmentPager I don't know, but in my pager I don't have to implement getItem, just instantiateItem
And getCount could theoretically change if your data source changes.
If you don't have a fixed number of pages -- rather, you're getting your page information at runtime -- you don't know what your count is, so you'd add logic there to check how many pages it should expect.
 
a FragmentManager is passed in to begin with
so can't we just get the count from that?
oh, maybe that's the reason
we have to handle the FragmentManager
 
Ladies and gentlemen, we have now entered the fifth level of Fragment Hell. Please keep your hands and legs inside the vehicle at all times.
 
3:16 AM
haha
Is keeping an ArrayList of Fragments bad?
I'm trying to think of how to organize them.
 
No clue on that. I'm just the tour guide to Fragment Hell™, I don't actually know anything about it.
 
Well I'll let you know if I make it out!
 
Good luck!
Also, WTF? Is there a difference between a typical onPause/onResume lifecycle and one that happens during a screen off/on event?
I'm having a bug that's erasing the candidate cells if I screen off and screen on, but not if I leave and resume the activity as normal.
So confused...
Wait, nevermind. It's just a problem resuming in general. I think I'm doing something in onCreate that I'm not in onResume... wanders away muttering incoherently
 
Have you put a debug message at the beginning of all your onResume(), onStop(), etc methods?
Could be useful to see the order it's happening in
bah
 
Yeah, that's what I'm trying and it's not making any sense. :/ onPause gets called, the values are saved, then I unlock the screen, on Resume runs with the correct values, but nothing displays. I'm doing something stupid somewhere, no doubt.
 
3:28 AM
are you relying on onSavedInstanceState at all?
 
Nope.
 
3:43 AM
Fucking fixed it and have no idea what exactly I did. Does that qualify for a shot in the drinking game? #AllOutOfWhiskey
 
3:53 AM
haha
I like to drink beer while I program
There's an xkcd about drinking and programming
 
ah, right on time
 
Hahaha, epic. I love XKCD so much.
 
user457812
Microsoft BOB was a lite-beer-inspired product.
 
user457812
4:04 AM
Why is the banner thingy so ugly O_o
 
Heh, idk. I just found it humorous that Nova Launcher is popular with Nova Launcher users.
 
 
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7:07 AM
I have a problem
My client gave me a tonne of image resources, and they use dashes in the filenames -_-
He doesn't want me to remove the dashes (which Android complains about), but instead rename the files at compile time.
Is that even possible?
 
Nope.
You can't compile without removing the dashes.
 
I could use an Ant script I guess, but will Android even let me start building?
 
It spits out errors is asset/ files have dashes etc in them.
 
would it be possible to use symlink to change the filename without duplicating the file?
The whole reason they don't want the filenames to be changed is because they don't want to duplicate resources in the repo
 
Not sure. Never worked with symlink.
Anybody here familiar with C++?
 
user457812
7:22 AM
Mmm mixed nuts and croutons.
 
user457812
I have used C++, but I wouldn't claim familiarity.
 
I've forgotten the C++ syntax by and large. And now I need to have an app ready using it by tomorrow.
Sort of making it up as I go along right now.
Plus, the platform in question is BB10. So examples and a community aren't in good supply.
 
Just make it shit, and demonstrate why BB10 isn't worth considering
 
user457812
I won't touch BB10 with a ten foot pole right now.
 
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And that's coming from a guy with a PlayBook
 
7:27 AM
I need to demonstrate it at a BB10 Jam on wednesday. Saying that infront of a room full of people who like it might now be a good idea.
 
Who cares, they're clearly a bunch of morons
 
Hey, even I've got a playbook, and two blackberries. But I still prefer android. Plus the BB10 tools are buggy.
Designing the layout's a pain.
 
user457812
I've never had a BlackBerry. They were always just made for strange people in suits.
 
Yay!! I figured out the equivalent of findViewById(). After spending 2 and a half hours looking for it.
I got both of them for free. So no complaints.
 
is there a way in which I can change the positioning of text on a button to a desired location?
 
7:30 AM
RIM's hardware is amazing. Their software compares to Android like Internet Explorer to Chrome or Firefox
 
user457812
I got my PlayBook for free, otherwise I can't imagine buying one. And I like the device, but I'm irked by RIM's complete lack of a useful GUI SDK.
 
@DineshVenkata Do yo mean the alignment like left/right/center?
 
user457812
Prior to Cascades/QT, there was nothing good for GUI work. And of course Cascades isn't on the PlayBook yet 'cause RIM is waiting 'til BB10 is out for that.
 
@RaghavSood I mean to a desired location on the button
 
I've never bought a Blackberry device. Got all three of mine for free. And getting a fourth on Wednesday, if I can get this app working.
 
user457812
7:32 AM
I wish they'd give me a BB10 alpha device.
 
@nil That's the one I'm getting :)
 
user457812
But I figure those're only for people they think will actually use them for something and I can't really guarantee jack.
 
@RaghavSood any possibility?
 
Doesn't seem to work that way. Current rule is that if you're a dev at one of their Jam events, you get one. And if you publish a native BB10 app when they launch it, then you'll be able to swap the alpha for a consumer device.
 
user457812
No, I know how the Jams work, but I ain't going to one
 
7:34 AM
@DineshVenkata It might be possible. I would check and tell you, but I'm in the wrong partition for that. My Android stuff is on Lion, but for BlackBerry I need to move to Windows.
 
user457812
Being unemployed and all makes it rather costly and thus inadvisable.
 
okay no problem @RaghavSood
@nil any idea regarding my issue?
 
user457812
You really shouldn't ping me when you've given up on someone else.
 
yea but then you didn't respond
earlier
 
user457812
Which means I had no interest which means you shouldn't have pinged me.
 
user457812
7:36 AM
If I were interested in helping I would have done so.
 
user457812
Right now I'm interested in eating these mixed nuts and croutons because they're seriously the closest thing I can get to a snack.
 
user457812
I never would've thought croutons would make a good snack, but they're surprisingly tasty.
 
WTF? When I use a for loop to add options to the DropDown in BB10, instead of getting options like Level 1, Level 2, Level 3 and so on I get the options "evel", "vel", "el", "l" and then 21 empty rows. Way to go RIM.
 
user457812
O_o
 
user457812
What the everloving hell?
 
7:43 AM
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Q: Using image resources which don't comply to Android's naming scheme

GlitchI need to use image resources from an iOS application that I'm porting to Android. Unfortunately they all have dashes in the file name, which causes errors. I can't rename the resources because they're shared with the iOS codebase, and having duplicate resources is a no-go. Is there a way I can...

 
@Glitch Can't you ask them to update the iOS code to go with the new names?
 
Stubborn iOS devs won't change the filenames on their side
 
user457812
Dipshits
 
They said "the code is done"
 
user457812
Uh, might be able to get 'em by using the AssetManager?
 
7:44 AM
I was considering that
seems awefully shit though
They're killing the whole point of XML
 
user457812
It is, but doesn't look like you'll get it from a resource ID
 
Sigh
Kill me now
 
user457812
I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave.
 
user457812
No, I don't care that your name isn't Dave.
 
So how painful will this asset manager be?
Just means I have to assign all images at runtime, right?
 
user457812
7:49 AM
Pretty much.
 
todays marks the day that I hate iOS devs more than ever
At least I know how to piss them off
 
user457812
Ain't my fault your team is stupid.
 
Just point out that Android looks better than iOS
 
user457812
As an iOS dev, I call your group stupid.
 
user457812
Usually does.
 
7:50 AM
The thing is, their code is done and dusted, so they don't want to touch it
 
user457812
It's not that hard to do a find and replace for some filenames.
 
Yeah but they don't want duplicate resources in the repo
 
user457812
Tell 'em to suck it up and work with cross-platform naming schemes.
 
user457812
Could also set up a build script that creates symbolic links in the assets directory and replaces dashes with underscores.
 
user457812
That way you don't have duplicate resources, you just have a script in the repo.
 
user457812
7:53 AM
It'd probably score bonus points and piss off the team that you got to use different filenames too.
 
I just made one of the devs rage
good times
 
user457812
Doing the symlink thing?
 
If I work out how to do it
 
user457812
Using bash?
 
Using Windows :/
 
user457812
7:56 AM
Hm
 
user457812
Any scripting languages available?
 
user457812
'Cause if it were bash it would've been an easy for ASSPATH in ios_resources/**/*.png ; do ; …
 
user457812
If you've got Powershell, it might also be doable. I'm not sure what all works in batch files.
 
user457812
Also not sure if you can actually have symbolic links in Windows..
 
user457812
I know you can have hard links
 
7:58 AM
@Glitch How many files are there.
 
about 60
@nil I'll have to take a look
 
user457812
You Windows devs and your lousy shells, I swear. Makin' things hard for yourselves I tells ya.
 
I'd swap to Linux, but it always ends up more painful in the long run
 
How about this: Have the iOS one's in the repo. Run a batch file to rename them just before you compile. And run another one to restore the original names before you push to the repo.
 
user457812
Could install msys.
 
user457812
8:00 AM
I'd avoid anything that actually mutates files
 
user457812
Sounds too risky
 
Isn't it possible to use "Level " + ctr to append an int to a String in C++?
 
user457812
I don't believe so.
 
I've forgotten, and all the Google returned examples use something completely different, which I can't use because that namespace isn't available.
 
user457812
"Level " + ctr would most likely result in you cutting off the beginning of your string accidentally.
 
user457812
8:04 AM
Since "Level " would be a char * unless you explicitly made it an std::string or QString or something
 
Yeah. I don't have the std namespace available at all.
Let me try with a QString.
 
Ok, I clarified with these devs
I'm allowed to change the filenames locally
and push the changes to my own Android repo
however, my local copy of the iOS repo needs to be consistent
so I need a script which renames these files after I pull them
 
user457812
That should be easy to do.
 
Indeed, just need a way to do it on windows
The lazy way... batch rename tool :P
but that's not automatic
 
8:22 AM
QString did the job :d
:d -> :D
 
8:34 AM
What directory do you guys put your <selector> xml for your buttons?
 
 
3 hours later…
11:10 AM
anybody home?
 
D:
Was going to ask, how do you guys handle contextual buttons in layouts
for example, there's a titlebar with buttons in this app, but the buttons change with different fragments
is there a pattern for switching between sets of buttons?
 
12:05 PM
The Android tag has a ton of old questions in which the OP answered it using an edit. Brings the unanswered up considerably.
 
Yea, that is not the only problem of the Android tag. ;)
 
There should be some way to fix it.
 
87
Q: Help us clean up the Android tag

Bill the LizardWe have a bit of a quality problem in the android tag. Android ranks first in both unanswered count and unanswered percent among popular tags1 on Stack Overflow, both by a comfortable margin. Given that the Android tag on Stack Overflow has been named as an official Android app development Q&...

It is not that simple.
 
Well, I can only flag so much.
 
12:33 PM
Does Android 4.1 keyboard have Chinese handwriting recognition?
 
It's been there in Android since 3.2, according to Wikipedia's change list.
The version history of the Android operating system began with the release of the Android beta in November 2007. The first commercial version, Android 1.0, was released in September 2008. Android is a mobile operating system developed by Google and the Open Handset Alliance, and has seen a number of updates to its base operating system since its original release. These updates typically fix bugs and add new features. Since April 2009, each Android version has been developed under a codename based on a dessert or sweet treat. These versions have been released in alphabetical order: Cupcake...
 
1:25 PM
I need some advice
Two pane design. Each pane has it's own controls, but I want to use an Action Bar. Can an Action Bar be split into two (or have buttons on one side, and buttons on the other?)
 
You might be able to do it using the split style, but then you're restricted to API 14 and above only.
 
Weeehh, you are writing a book?
 
I'm done writing it. It's printing right now.
 
Ah, nice! I was about to ask what publisher. :)
 
Thanks :)
 
1:34 PM
I've been a technical reviewer for an Android book coming out this summer. :)
 
Which one?
 
Gimme a second to grab you a link.
There you go. 60 Android Hacks
 
Nice! They initially wanted me to review a book as well, but that one didn't happen, so they offered to have me write one instead.
 
heh, quite a good deal. :)
 
I'm quite happy with the trade of.
Somewhere around Chapter 4 the rest of the team found out I was 15. The guy who signed me on forgot to tell them :p
 
1:40 PM
I bet they were all like Are you serious? :D
 
The main editor sort of took it in his stride, but the others were a bit shocked :P
 
lol
That reminds me when I sold my first article to an Aussie magazine at 16
no one know my age until months later
 
Yea well I wanted to write an Android book too but then I took an arrow to the knee.
 
Oh, I thought you were writing the next Sex and the City book.
 
hah
Nah, I have other dreams now.
 
1:49 PM
Does it involve not getting STDs? :P
 
lol no.
I'd like to take part in downhill competitions next summer. Gonna start practicing soon.
I'll take some driving technique courses too.
 
nice
 
There is this American pro driver called Bobby Root, he is teaching driving techniques in Germany. I'll probably go for such a downhill camp soon.
 
cool
I'm going to be stuck in this house for the next 4 months
yay
 
Why?
Check this out ... he is just sick.
 
1:55 PM
gotta finish this contract work
then uni starts
 
Awesome. Copy pasting code out of RIM's official BB10 samples gives me syntax errors.
 
It's just testing your knowledge
What language does BB10 use for apps?
 
They're passing the keyword int to a function, instead of a value.
C++ for logic, QML for UI.
Sort of like Android's Java and XML. You can create the UI in C++, but it's easier in QML.
 
Yeah, BB10 should die. C++ is not a language people want to use.
Sane people, that is.
 
1:59 PM
Well, the web apps SDK has HTML5, so I guess that's something. Sadly, I have to use their native SDK for this app.
 
I love Android because I can program in Scala
 
I've been meaning to look into it. Is scala any good?
 
Not that I've done much of that, but my next project will be
Scala is great, if you're into functional programming.
I really need to work out how to design this app >_<
I have two panes, and the first is a list of steps to take. The second pane has forms for each step that the user has to fill in etc.
Not sure if each step should be a seperate fragment that gets swapped out
and whether the contextual buttons should be part of that fragment, or seperate somehow
 
Not much of a UI person. Most of mine look like they were put together by a five year old.
 
Time to put my OO hat on, me thinks
The UI I can manage fine, it's the implementation that I'm struggling with
 
2:08 PM
Do the contextual buttons stay the same throughout? How many are there?
 
There's a few sets of steps. They change between them
So a set of steps are essentially a set of forms.
But only one form is shown at a time. Trying to work out whether I make each form a new fragment, or just a new layout.
But then I need a way to store all this info
I guess I could run through the children of the layout, and use the tags to work out what form it is, and where to store the data
 
I would go with a layout. Easier to support with older versions, and I get irritated by Fragments if I have to use more than 5-6 of them.
 
Does it make sense to inflate the parent and then scan through each child to grab the data?
 
I can't think of a better method, so I'm going to go with yes.
 
Ok, just need to make sure I don't try and read non-text views!
Also, what's the best way to store the data I get out of the views? Preferably a simple method.
 
2:17 PM
if(view instanceof TextView)
SharedPreferences?
 
Agreed on SharedPrefs.
I love SharedPrefs. They're extremely simple to use.
 
Same here, and extremely easy to implement into android backup agent
Like five lines of code
 
Hmm, I guess I could store a key in each view, scan each view, store the data via SharedPrefs using that key
 
You could do that. Add a tag to the TextViews in XML, that could work
 
I think that makes sense :P
 
2:21 PM
Instead of scanning them all, if they're going to be user entered, you could commit the data on a focus change event
 
indeed
I need to work out how this app actually works
Going to buy an iPad :(
 
:'( Sorry to hear it.
 
So is sharedprefs better than using a database?
 
I do like the screen on the iPad 3, though.
 
Database might be overkill
 
2:23 PM
Eh, define better. Yeah, pretty much that. Overkill for what you're doing, most likely, unless it's a rather large set
 
Gah, just been told that some of the form data needs to be shared with other apps
 
SharedPreferences! You can set them to be readable by other apps. :D
 
Or you could set up a ContentProvider if you've got some spare time.
And are bored.
 
well I've just been told that the iOS version uses plists
and that I have to too
 
plists?
 
2:27 PM
I said the same thing!
Some serialisation technique... bleh
 
I'd say tell them to FO and let you do it the Android way, since that's why they hired you. ;) (not realistic, I know)
 
plists are more or less unsupported on Android,
Any app that wants to access the data will have to go to amazing pains to do it.
There's no official support for plists. Only third party libraries.
 
plists seem to do what android does anyway, generates resource IDs and links data to them
Except now I'm stuck with iOS shit
 
Tell them it's not officially supported.
 
hi there
 
2:30 PM
This is the only plist parser that I know of: github.com/tenaciousRas/android-plist-parser
And I'm pretty sure it's not official
 
Would this work? code.google.com/p/plist
 
Never used it, but it seems to support the iOS plists. And since it has the Android tag, it should be compatible.
 
cool, thanks
MIT licence too
 
2:46 PM
@Raghav you are from androidhive?
 
Um, nope.
 
oeps sorry
his name is Ravi
i thought it was you
 
So, pro-tip: If you want to rename your application package, don't do it by right-clicking the package and Refactor > Rename. Go through Android Tools > Rename Application Package. Save yourself headache down the road. :)
 
The XML messes up when you do that :/ I learn the hard way.
 
Sad part is, for me it didn't. Worked perfectly until I tried to add a BackupAgent. Then it was giving me a ClassNotFoundException since I was giving it the wrong qualifier.
 
2:58 PM
It completely destroyed my manifest. properties were moved into completely different elements, and some were deleted altogether. I had to rewrite it from scratch. I somehow messed up the local history backup as well, so I couldn't even use that,
 
Damn. You found out in a harder way than I did. @_@
 
The weirdest thing the Android tools have done to me is give a NoClassDefError that required me to duplicate the project in an uncanny way. Details are in this SO question: stackoverflow.com/q/11171726/1069068
 
Well that sounds like a PITA. Very bizarre. Weren't using ProGuard were you? I don't know if that would make a difference or not.
 
Nope. No ProGuard.
ProGuard can cause this sometimes if you end up running it on the libraries as well. You usually need to add a rule to ignore the package names for you libraries.
 
3:21 PM
When I create a new android project, with the SDK location set ( as seen in the photo), it won't let me select the targetSDKVersion. The "choose" button is unclickable and when i click the down arrow it doesnt' do anything and i can't type the version. imageshack.us/photo/my-images/196/newandroidproject.jpg
 
The new tools new Android project wizard is quite different. I'll check when I get back to my mac environment, but that's going to take some time. Perhaps someone else can help you.
 
@Dimon Oh hai, you have write access. Rules are over there ---->
 
@RaghavSood ok
thanks anyway
 
@Anshuman I'm on the fence, but you've got write access. Rules are still over there --->
 
3:37 PM
@kcoppock do u know why it is doing this
 
I need to find a way to make a listview, with specific expandable rows. I mean, not all rows will expand. how can I do that?
is there something like View.setExpandable? LOL
 
3:52 PM
@kcoppock you flashed your Galaxy Nexus onto Jelly Bean right? Did you lose your data?
 
Yeah, of course. :P
@rogcg when getChildCount returns 0, that happens automatically.
 
@ChrisOkyen Not offhand, but I'm guessing you're either pointing it to the wrong SDK location or you haven't downloaded the system images
 
Not having system images shouldn't matter. I used the tools for several months without any emulator images. But they might have changed that now. I did it almost a year ago.
 
Sorry, my mistake, I actually just meant the platforms themselves, not the emulator images.
@ProfSmiles Dive in and DELETE EVERYTHING. You can do it! :D
 
4:17 PM
this is not my weekend...
first a storm in the night where a flash hit the house and killed radio, bluray player, router and power cable to my laptop
then my rabbits break out and they killed my mouse, keyboard, joystick and headset because they bit trough the cables...
roughly 500€ damage combined
this is sooo not my weekend
 
user457812
Ooooooone mooooooore daaaaaaaaaay
 
yeah I can hit the 1k€ :/
 
4:53 PM
Remember how I asked what to do when I guy asks for upvotes recently? The guy in question unaccepted my answer, probably because I didn't upvote his question :P
 
user457812
Well, his loss
 
user457812
Accepting an answer also gets you reputation after all, at least if I remember right
 
Yup. I think it's 3 or 5. Also, his accept rate will go down, seeing as he hasn't accepted another answer.
 
 
2 hours later…
6:40 PM
Four days to go!
 
user457812
One day for me. Just ooone more day and I'll have my new computer.
 
user457812
And then the fun of transferring all my files begins.
 
user457812
6:56 PM
@MartinS You've got write access.
 
7:30 PM
@kcoppock the way i'm doing it it doesnt seem to make it automatically.
@kcoppock whatever I think I found the solution. Thanks for the advise!
 
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