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user3956566
02:19
@PetterFriberg Yes I asked them for a comment clean up - as they all need to be clean up if there's going to be any cleaning up - if that makes sense - haven't had coffee - lazy Sunday morning day
user3956566
@josliber nice
@YvetteColomb Thanks! Once primary voting starts we can pull that into the tool, too, using Undo's primary voting tracker.
@josliber Neat!
Would be interesting to do multidimensional vector analysis on who's expected to win
Based on previous election results?
02:29
Yep
And which candidates including previous ones are 'close' to eachother.
Yeah, I guess part of the idea of including current mods in the tool was to capture which candidates have a similar profile to folks who have been elected.
I like looking at review count, edit count, and flag count: www-personal.umich.edu/~josilber/SOElection2017/…
user3956566
@Undo I was nosing around and from the old elections - when looking at the answers to the questionnaire it links to the current questionnaire O>O
yeah, it's one page in the system and it's just edited
user3956566
@josliber thanks for going to the effort to do that
@YvetteColomb No worries! Wasn't too much effort this time around -- all the coding happened 2 elections ago (when I was running)
All I had to do was update the SEDE queries to the current batch of candidates and manually update the two fields I can't get from SEDE (helpful flag count and review count)
user3956566
02:34
@josliber I miss the days when I was coding for fun. It all seems so serious now - I think I should do a toy project
I really don't know what the biggest predictors are for winning the election
Good call -- haven't coded for fun in a bit, either
Reputation probably plays too big a part in it
user3956566
it's hard to know how the votes will go. I have the 1 downvote per 2 upvotes - which actually holds me in good stead in the election - as people can't downvote
I would assume a central driver of votes in the election is whatever is displayed on the voting page. Back in the day that was reputation and now that's election score.
user3956566
02:36
To me Cody and Andy are the two obvious shoo ins
Don't draw much from questionnaire votes. They mean almost nothing
Yeah, questionnaire votes are highly correlated with questionnaire submission order :)
user3956566
@Undo yes - is that because only about 10% (random guess made up from my head) attend meta voting?
@josliber This
@YvetteColomb more because they're so stinkin' long and no one has that kind of attention span
02:37
Though I will say the year I won, I was also the first person to submit my answers
user3956566
@josliber well Cody's gotten a lot of votes and he submitted laaate
user3956566
@Undo hahahahahahaha I know!!
10% is probably high. Wouldn't be surprised if it's <5
user3956566
yeh - it wasn't scientific - and it would be so simple to look at the numbers O>O
@Undo More people should have followed this person's example: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/352489/229044
Well aside from the part where they didn't realize the meta answers weren't nominations
user3956566
02:39
@meagar I know! It is good to know how people intend to handle things - but it's funny that really only a small minority is interested
user3956566
@meagar coincidence?
user3956566
The thing I'm faced with - will be the abject shock if I am elected
user3956566
@Undo so if the questionnaire is not correlated with election results - what is? Rep - yes? We need stats stat (not stat I just wanted to say that)
Lots of things, and few things are known. Not many datapoints
user3956566
yeh I was thinking that
user3956566
02:44
lots of room for variation
user3956566
I wonder even if avatar makes a difference.
If I were to pick one thing, I would guess candidate score drives a lot of votes. It's directly presented to the voter as the only real number on the voting page.
Obviously there are a lot of other factors, but that one seems central to me.
user3956566
It's hard, because we all read the back information about candidates - so it's hard to imagine what people are seeing and thinking
user4639281
04:11
@gnat A complete reworking of the review system.
user3956566
04:32
@TinyGiant in what way?
user4639281
Every way.
user3956566
That's broad, it really says little about how you think it should be changed
user4639281
It says a lot about how I think it should be changed. I think it should be reworked. Meaning I think some smart people need to sit down, review what we've learned from the review system thus far, then start over from scratch using what they've learned. I'm not particularly invested in any one outcome. I just know that the system that we have hasn't scaled well.
user3956566
@TinyGiant it has scaled well for all the queues except the close vote queue
user4639281
No, it hasn't. All of the queues have problems caused by scale. The whole codebase for the review system hasn't scaled well. There are so many problems with the review system that it isn't realistic to discuss all of them here. That in no way means that reviewing is pointless. It means that the review system is showing it's age, and we need a 2.0
user4639281
04:41
The scale is not the number of review tasks. The scale is the number of posts needing review. There is such a vast number of posts that could use reviewing in one way or another that will never make it into a review queue.
05:48
Let's Make Stack OverFlow Great AGAIN!
lol
06:35
Oh, lots have already done that.
 
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user3956566
@BhargavRao my dot is on top of Cody's dot in that one - it looks like an eye - As for Andy - well - he's outta space in most of these :)
Just remove Andy from the sidebar, the graph will realign ;)
08:40
Just realized that nearly 50% of the flags in the present mod queue are "others"
 
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13:41
@BhargavRao but...I enjoy that axis. It's very nice looking.
Like a huge sun and others like small cute planets
 
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15:20
@BhargavRao Though to be fair, I'm not sure what can be gleaned from time since registration.
Nothing much there, I used it only because Andy's circle looks huge and out of place (so that I could make that Sun and planets simile)
 
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17:06
anyone?
Nopes
All asleep
zZz...
17:42
@BhargavRao :)
18:11
I can't find the reason for the mod message I got today. ??? (feeling confused)
18:36
@SagarV Why don't you create a meta post? That would seem the most appropriate place to discuss the mod message.
 
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21:00
Is it required for a candidate to answer the 2017 Moderator Election Q&A - Questionnaire?
user2285236
@rene Jigar Joshi didn't answer the questionnaire in the last election if I'm not wrong. stackoverflow.com/election/8#post-40544215
@ayhan Oh, yes. I must have banned that one from my memory. And he did enter into the voting phase so the answer to my question is no. But it doesn't look good on your nomination, for sure.
user3956566
21:16
morning all \o
21:41
@josliber https://primaries.charcoal-se.org/update-api.json should work once we have data. It'll look like this:
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{
476: 8449,
189134: 6269,
260990: 2019,
541136: 16076,
561731: 2191,
584192: 8496,
1835379: 4053,
2301450: 3682,
3160466: 2470,
4099593: 1
}
Where the key is the SO user ID, value is current primary score
@Undo Excellent -- thanks!!
Yep ;)
I will link it in once we're live
and pull once a minute
Should work, it's a quick page
Famous last words, right there, folks. ^
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