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"Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more you sweat, the luckier you get" -Ray Kroc (source)
 
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reads a book
 
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@TheCoder You could always use a proxy I suppose
there'd be a lot of boilerplate to do properly though
Usually it's worth your while to create an abstract proxy class which does nothing more than act like the class it's imitating
08:24
morn
morn
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around here we only say "morn"
Morning
08:37
Morning.
What's up? @Hans1984
08:38
working
u tell
doing IT support your schedule never runs dry..
have u worked with android webview
08:38
can tell you that
no only android studios
morn
Zoe
Zoe
08:54
@Devil10 this isn't an Android room
09:34
hi
morn
09:47
morno
@geisterfurz007 do you use discord app?
Considering that we spent quite some time on the same server you should know the answer ;)
Well probably not haha
Yes, I am still using discord :)
Could you tell me the group name?
09:57
I can only send you an invite link.
Okay then send me
haha no worries that link becomes invalid after someone clicked on it
Zoe
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10:52
Oof
@geisterfurz007 you know history is a thing, right?
I just wanted to hide it from people who are not eager to try and get into stuff they are not supposed to get into. The invite was invalid when Hem joined the server.
11:32
I clicked it :)
Because I'm a curious george
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Happy new year, @Java channel :)
Hi,should i answer question which can easily be google searched
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@dbl Happy new year!
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@P.Gupta I don't think that there is an official SO ethic over the topic...
11:38
@P.Gupta If there is another stackoverflow question on the topic already, mark the new question as duplicate. If not, sure do! Stackoverflow wants to be an archive for programming problems and solutions and if there is one that is not yet answered here, you will help build this archive.
Generally for such questions though: Ask on [meta.SO]. That's a better place than chat.
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actually @geisterfurz007 is right.
@dbl Is it still new year? :)
@geisterfurz007 its not a duplicate question.Also it's getting heavily downvoted
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haven't been here for a while so yeah :)
OK then happy new year @dbl
11:39
Then again there is this view on the topic. @P.Gupta
@geisterfurz007 ironically, if a programming question is easily googled... google often redirects to SO
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@P.Gupta if the question does not respect the SO terms of defining a quality question then you should report it.
@Wietlol That's why I put the duplicate stuff there.
but if it isnt a duplicate, was it easy to google search?
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it's really hard to find a question that hasn't an answer here any yet
11:41
@Wietlol yes pretty easy
its quite easy to find questions that havent got answers
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@Wietlol can you please give me an example :D
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Q: Is Java "pass-by-reference" or "pass-by-value"?

user4315I always thought Java was pass-by-reference. However, I've seen a couple of blog posts (for example, this blog) that claim that it isn't. I don't think I understand the distinction they're making. What is the explanation?

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Q: Design and analysis of Algorithms

user10910603The number of elements that can be sorted in O(log n) time using heapsort is? a) O(1) b) O(sqrt(log n)) c) O(log n/ log log n) d) O(log n)

for example
hasnt got an answer
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@Wietlol so you are saying that if a reader is interested in getting the answer he won't be able by only reading the thread?
no...
but it technically hasnt got an answer
only pending ones
@Wietlol it has an answer just scroll down
not an accepted answer
if you want one with nothing, then the "newest questions" might be interesting
but you will mostly find duplicates or very library specific questions
often even where issues are caused by the combination of certain libraries
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that's my point though...
it's pretty hard to find a quality question that hasn't been answered any yet...
@P.Gupta I've downvoted the question as well
It is clearly an assignment and the OP doesn't put any effort in constructing the mindset to answer it but expects the community to give him a basic explonation...
11:53
!!s/that hasn't been answered.*//
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yup
though to be fair, they probably wouldn't be asking questions on stackoverflow if they knew how to search for an answer to their question effectively
that's probably part of the issue right there
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@Wietlol @dbl even if its an assignment question,The SO does not contain any answer for it.Answering it only benifits the SO right?
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I've stopped answering questions for a while now, just posting links to google searches that provides the answer... Requires 10 mins of a research of course :D
11:56
what are the odds that a beginner is going to be an effective searcher and not find the thing he's looking for? 1 in a million? maybe?
the issue I have with the heap sort question is that it is just a copy'n'paste of a school question
a question I would expect is "this is a question from school, but I dont understand how I should find number of elements based on O(log n) time. what do they mean with O(log n) time?"
I half expect stackoverflow questions to be shopping lists and google search requests for the amount of ability some beginners have to search for things
@P.Gupta answering it doesnt benefit SO
none of us are interested in "C"
we could be interested in the approach being taken tho
search for O(log n) in google and literally the first result is "What does O(log n) mean exactly?"
but it is a very specific question for a very specific set of knowns
11:59
you shouldn't have to ask what O(log n) means
@Neil I know what O(log n) means, but it is used in 2 different ways in the question
I know what it means in one way, now I know in 2
Nebraska produces an estimated 250 million pounds of popcorn per year-more than any other state. This is equivalent to a quarter of all the popcorn the United States produces every year. (source)
I mean if they want to understand what O(log n) means in terms of "number of elements", once you know the meaning of O(log n), you'd understand
you'd understand that it makes no sense at least
which is already half the battle
Question here: I'm a little confused about how you design your managed beans for JSF-pages. I am very muched used to the MVC-pattern where you have have 1 controller/servlet per page that fills the view with all the needed data.
Does one usually use the same pattern with JSF? So do you usually also design your managed beans per JSF-page? It feels akward because, as far as I can tell, managed beans for JSF-pages usually have state dependent variables, very much unlike servlets that are basically stateless.
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No idea, never worked with JSFs, but this article looks nice
tried to search for "JSF under the hood"
12:18
why do ppl in Nebraska love popcorn that much
@dbl Seems like worth a read, especially because I don't know how to debuf JSF. So even if it doesnt answer the question in particular, it helps. Thanks :p
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sorry that I can't help with any synthesized information but at least this will give you maybe more context
12:38
All good, the article is actually really valuable for debugging JSF. Definitely "under the hood"
@Hans1984 I dunno. Clearly weirdos
why do people in general not like hardstyle?
yeah
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one word - money
no, they are just weirdos!
covers ears
12:44
money or.. weirdos
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While landing on an anchor my browser is mysteriously scrolling down a bit. Do you think that's NSA?
oc
/8ball was it the nsa ?
@Hans1984 That's impossible
ok it wasnt @dbl
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I will ask my toaster once I get back home
12:50
yeah
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13:13
@dbl the only response toaster gives is toast
even then, it makes you wait a bit for that response
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I will channel the question there and eventually they will find a way to answer o:)
"Should I ask that girl out?" Toaster: *toast pops up* "Yeah, you're right, maybe I should ask myself how she might feel about that first.."
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the problem with toaster not answering your questions should be missing hardware mainly :/
reduce toaster toasting timer. You can get a response immediately. Downsides include that advice will always be toast and it won't be cooked toast
still working out the bugs
@dbl huehuehue
13:40
@Neil if it pops then it is hot
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14:00
And in addition there is a 50-50 chance for the toaster to answer you -> it will either answer you or not answer you :/
that's the halting problem
so far, toaster has always halted
though I can't prove that all toast-specific endeavors will always return toast
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Informally, for any program f that might determine if programs halt, a "pathological" program g called with an input can pass its own source and its input to f and then specifically do the opposite of what f predicts g will do. No f can exist that handles this case.
or so the theory goes
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@dbl and which state is that when the toast jumps out the toaster, landing somewhere else instead on the expected spot (in toaster)?
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It has never happened to me still I had such a case where a slice of cheese didn't come out :(
why do you add cheese on the bread for the toaster? Or do you have a horizontal toaster ?
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It is not "horizontal" rather than "imaginary" and the cheese was the "pathological" input that it needed so the observation will lead to the fact the cheese block will never come out and be toasted.
 
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If I'm packaging by layer in Java, what layer would an HttpRequest be a part of?
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Dependency Layer
 
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You've heard of yoga with goats. Introducing yoga with dogs: old.reddit.com/r/gifs/comments/afyuzs/yoga_with_dogs
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Dawwwww <3

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