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14:00
Yes it can and the code is upstairs. It's also quite modular so if you want me to add 12M for months, add (?=(.*?\\D)?(\\d+)M)|), change replacement to ...,$4SECONDS,$5MONTHS, compile and run again and watch the fun... :)
Goosebumps
I like it
It's a little sexy
Its a demon
Sooo... A succabus then?
Save your life
@Gemtastic haha
14:03
It's killing you, but you love it
I like regex more than messing with maven. Useful skill to take around every language, sticks with you, and short enough to overcome posting an entire parser. :)
take around every language.. Definitely a +1
Even in SQL... :P
Unihedron is compelling me to surrender to the Demon
at least my favourite music artists' page isn't blocked here
14:09
blocked?
The Great FireWall of Leaf Village !
I WTF:ed when I read the terms and conditions of my broadband. They actually claim the right to censor the internet for me. Though they aren't.
What is this? Broadband for china?
Net neutrality (also network neutrality or Internet neutrality) is the principle that Internet service providers and governments should treat all data on the Internet equally, not discriminating or charging differentially by user, content, site, platform, application, type of attached equipment, and modes of communication. The term was coined by Columbia media law professor Tim Wu in 2003 as an extension of the longstanding concept of a common carrier. Proponents often see net neutrality as an important component of an open Internet, where policies such as equal treatment of data and open w...
@Gemtastic lolz @Unihedron
14:13
Funny you said that, I had to set up a 1028-bit AES proxy for my connection since live in HKSAR.
I'm spoiled with freedom
Well, as long as I don't try to access the freedom shows of THE US and A
"This content has not been made available for your country :'( "
My old provider had this thing where they decided that "If we think you download too much we reserve the right to restrict your internet access"
@Gemtastic Net Neutrality will bring us government enforced censorship, if passed.
But in Sweden, maybe it's not such an issue
We don't follow the US laws, but if companies pull it off in the US it doesn't take long until they lobby it in europe too
Net Neutrality annoys me. It's not possible to treat all traffic equally.
Like shit with that you can't use your own seeds from a previous harvest. Not even as a private person growing for your own need
If that happens here I think we need a new revolution... Worldwide
14:24
And the proposed FCC regulation for NN states clearly that ISPs cannot block "lawful content".
Finally Spoulson is taking part in conversation :)
This means ISPs can block what they believe is unlawful content, which is not defined. It also implies they can spy on you to determine what content you're accessing.
Indeed
Torrents... unlawful
VPNs... unlawful
Well, we do have a spying thing already here, even thought it's illegal
14:26
because VPNs allow you to get around the country restrictions on @Gemtastic's freedom shows.
As do we.
Accessing any site containing hate-speech... unlawful
Which can be anything nowadays.
Every time something like that comes up I wonder what other half-insane bill they're trying to pass when noone's looking.
That's how shit gets passed in the US.
The celebrity slut squad shows up. Everyone's talking about Lindsey Lohan... oops, 2013 NDAA got passed with no contest. Contains language about indefinite detainment and government propaganda on its own citizens.
I refuse to mention the stupid things like the latest scandals with stupid people because I don't want to contribute to it. Even though you mention it to talk about how dumb it is, you're still giving it attention
Which is why the ALS Ice-bucket challenge was so successful. At least it was for a good cause.
Though the challenge should be to just donate money.
14:33
I think the scandals don't deserve mention, but their timing can.
I did not participate, but I will say the ALS ice bucket thing was the most successful campaign I've ever seen.
Neither did I, and I agree.
They literally fed their agenda to every Internet attention whore, then shared it to all their narcissistic friends on social media.
I've worked for someone who had ALS. I've seen and held the illness in my own hands. It's horrible
14:35
It's like a mega-selfie
None of these people give a shit about ALS, though.
"had" of course since the person is no longer with us.
We just want to watch someone freeze their balls off, or get hit in the head by the bucket.
Like watching cat videos.
I'm sorry to hear that.
Nope, but it at least spreads awareness. Some celebrities actually did donate a lot of money.
The success of the campaign is that they managed to gain ridiculous exposure and donations from people who really couldn't care less about the cause.
Which is all that really matters in a way; as long as the research can be funded it's still for a good cause. I wouldn't even wish ALS on my worst enemy.
14:39
lol
And what's up next; boobies and arses.
Breast and prostate cancer.
They suck too
15:10
Orr... we could go back to talking Java
laaame
15:28
Vehicle boat.Drive();
throw new NoBoatFoundException();
D:
Vehicle boat = new Boat();
Vehicle boat.Drive();
:D
15:56
^^
16:12
man.. people are fast..
just an hour ago a bug was identified, a fix has already been proposed.
That's great
But also known as friday fun
@ItachiUchiha :) !
Just wait until the weekends come, and the programmers goes on their break.
 
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17:17
Good night!
17:36
gn
Hey all, been out sick all week :/
Oh no! Get better soon!
Yeah, I think I've had that West Nile Swine Ebola
Well, looks like the Java project I've built and cultivated for the last 2+ years is getting canned.
Boss wants me full time on the Perl project from hell
Perl is just executable line noise
17:48
s/\d+\s*(\w*)/$1/g;

NO CARRIER
18:34
hey guys
is anyone here familiar with eclipse?
i'm running into a stupid problem... how do i get eclipse to suggest types of exception i can use in a catch block?
doesn't ctrl space work?
hmmm yea, it does
never knew about ctr+space
always relied on above method previously
thansk
no prob
I'm running netbeans but with eclips key-commando
I use it wayy too much
19:06
I don't think people still use NetBeans or Eclipse.
/s/people/smart people/
Apparently they do
Since we're being taught how to use it in school because the business wants us to
"The business"?
We have about 20 people in the board of direction that comes from large companies working with java in different ways. They want us to know eclipse and netbeans
Not that it really matters to me
I don't have a hard time learning a new program
That's shocking. In the past 10 years at 3 different companies, I've rarely come across more than a tiny handful of people using eclipse, and exactly 0 using NetBeans
What companies are these people from?
If smart people don't use NetBeans or Eclipse, what do they use instead?
19:18
Well, I could be persuaded that an occasional smart person (IE: @Unihedron ) might use eclipse. but NetBeans????
I would suggest IntelliJ
I also wonder what they are using instead
Mostly because it's embarrassing to not know. I know there's one program that people use when they make apps for android phones...
I would say that 90% of the java devs here use Intelli-J
Because it more or less does the code for you? XD
And I totally see why we're not being taught it... It's not a freeware XD
19:37
Um... it's 100% free
It's not open source, if that's what you're referring to
Actually, I think that it would technically fall under a "freeware" definition, if we're talking about strict nomenclature
in that it's free of cost
It's free for personal use, but not commercial
"Commercial Licenses are available as stand-alone purchases or bundled with an upgrade subscription. Commercial licenses are for companies and organizations that require the software for general commercial use." [...]"from €449"
Ok, are you a student?
(I'm assuming so)
If you're serious (and I mean really serious) about a career as a software engineer...
Fuck, I should write all this down in a blog or slides or something
There's a lot you should know....
1) a company that won't drop $450 for a software license on a tool that you will use literally ALL the time that you are working on software is a company that you should run (NOT WALK) away from.
They're the company that's going to short change you in a hundred small and painful ways
they're going to focus on all the right things
for them, and all the wrong things for you
Things like expensive ergonomic chairs are not "perks" when you spend 15 hours during crunch time in them
I should write a book: "Everything you need to know about working in tech that you didn't learn in university."
19:53
Hmm... I find it very hard to ask for things. I've been unemployed for 5 years. I just want a job XD
"Beggars can't be choosers" has been my life for the last 6 years
Since I was trying to find work before I quit senior high.
So you're telling me, I can actually be demanding?
Are you in university?
Do you have experience as a programmer?
I'm in a career school for Java programming
There's a lot of options, but there's (obviously) a bar to entry. First jobs out of school you may have to take what you can get, but you can ease that by showing you have experience (working on OSS is a good way to go about that)
It's a university level education
What's the job market like there?
You're in Sweden?
19:56
Yes
I know there are jobs
I've only been in school for a month
(But I absolutely love it!)
How long is your school? 2 years?
wow...
some suggestions for me ?? ;-)
Ask questions and I'll impart my wisdom
@kylar you must seriously start a blog
i loved the thing you said about the chair
I have one, but I haven't updated it since I started my current job, as they frown on us talking about work
so... 8.5 years or so.
20:06
2 years yes
/me is strangely old
you have been in one work for 8.5 years =-O
First place I've ever worked that I wanted to stay
you must revamp your blog..
Pardon my n00bness, what's OSS?
20:07
Open Source Software
in some circles, if you've worked on relevant software, that's very highly regarded
Yes, I will probably fibble with that as soon as I know more. As is atm I only know how to make text programs you run in the cmd >_>
There's a high bar again - you must be a good coder and have a good understanding of the software to submit patches to widely used software
20:09
how about i make a new blogging site for ya ?
or revamp your existing
LOL
Nah, I'm OK
I don't even know what branches there are. Apart from apps for android >_>;
i still force ya
It's lucky that programming is so logical. It's easy to understand what the different "tools" does.
Ahhh, one of my favorite tweets:
20:10
Heck, even I have a blog XD
If I care about what you say, I’ll make it obvious. If I carry a hockey stick to your cube, You . Have. Fucked. Up.
that's why I keep a hockey stick in my office.
My best tweets of 2010
;-)
i gt the link
20:21
Yaay I got another upvote on an answer XD
Ouch?
I just fell down in this room and my butt hurts.
oww
is your tailbone ok?
It's boned.
20:29
Cuz that's paralyzingly painful
Now I'm butthurt about my tailbone ;-;
/me points to the door
Out.
One of the good reasons to be butthurt
No bad jokes here unless they're from Unihedron or I.
Hi @Kylar Bye @Kylar
Who is @Unihedron?
20:31
I think you need 1500 Reputation to tell a bad joke
Another one is buttcercise.
What about @Nordehinu? ;-;
@Kylar haha XD
Anyone of you did competitive programming ?
I wanna know how to prepare for it. :P
In that case I'm not even allowed to tell the name of my blog :')
20:32
Be a good programmer
@Kylar what about data structures and algorithms?
Be a good OO programmer.
what data structures? All data structures are either a tree, a map, or a list
I'm pretty new to programming but I got 3 more years in college and I can go to ACM ICPC like 3 times.
there's really only 3
So I want to prepare.
20:33
I need to dig deeper into map
Do you know how much more salary you get for winning competitive programming awards?
/me hands Sab a free cup of coffee.
Grabs coffee
Good job.
That'll be $3.50
What's a top 10?
20:36
What top 10?
before you edited your post
you said "Or 50K at a top 10?"
See what I did there? That's the coffee effect. xD
I have fast eyes
and an eidetic memory
I mean many people who win competitive programming competitions gets jobs in top companies
Not eidetic memory, just good memory
Eidetic memory means you know exactly what you did 2 years ago on 3rd January at 13.24 pm
technically that's photographic memory
20:38
Yeah about the 50K more, people who work in top companies earn way more than the average right?
I just have a good memory and my trick is connecting the dots.
Eidetic memory is someone who can remember a specifically viewed object or piece of information exceedingly clearly for a short period of time
:O
So I'm eidetic too then.
Well, I work at a top company
and I make more than average
So what's needed to get an intern at a top company?
so anecdotally, you're right
Apply and be good
20:40
I know only Java basics and Python basics.
So that doesn't put me in a good position compared to guys that go to competitions
jobs.apple.com/us/…*USA&pN=0&openJobId=35801236
So I thought preparing for these compets. could give me a way to learn more stuff and apply them .
Going to competitions has nothing to do with if you're a good programmer
What are the qualities of a good programmer apart from a good memory?
you can be a good programmer who doesn't compete (as describes 99% of the good programmers I know)
and be a bad programmer who competes
20:41
^
I should really research what companies to apply to be an intern at right now XD
Read code and write code
I totally agree.
So I'm doing it right then.
If you can read code and understand it (complicated code)
@Gemtastic Why not try ?
20:42
@Sabಠ_ಠ try competing?
Try applying.
I'm a first year with basic programming skills and I tried, thought I got none cuz they don't want first year as interns
here's a piece of code that often gets assigned in later years of CS
Well I have to research what companies there are first and foremost
Write a multithreaded controller for an elevator system
The top companies want a solid knowledge of data structures algorithms and coding
20:42
Wanna see the elevator I made XD
(I know you don't)
The only fun thing about it is that it's 100% automatic from startup. You enter what floors you wanna go to when you start it
@Gemtastic A guy at facebook told me if you get an intern they pay for your visa, pay for your housing and pay your $4-5K
and pay for 3 meals a day
how sick cool is that?
@Sabಠ_ಠ Seriously?
@Sabಠ_ಠ Yeah that's pretty average for here in the valley
He told me grades do not matter
20:44
The only issue with that is that I'd probably have to leave my boyfriend behind though...
know my d.s, algortihms and know how to code
I think our interns are around $5200/month
for 3 months
@Kylar even internationals can apply?
yep it's 3 months
I don't know off hand
I know for FB I can, Apple I'm not sure
FB people come all the way to SA to look for interns, that's sick
There's this guy who failed his 2nd year CS twice and interned at FB and now he's finishing his major
how sick is that.
I really feel college is a waste of time, I never go to lectures and when I want to learn something I just look it up on the net.
@Kylar what are the most important programming languages one should know?
20:48
My strategy is to get really awesome so I can intern at a high-end company and hopefully score a job there and $5200 as an intern... Wooow...
With that kinda money I could afford eating out~
@Sabಠ_ಠ Java and C.
That's your big 2
My strategy is to get really awesome so I can intern at a high-end company and hopefully score a job there and $5200 as an intern... Wooow...
-Gemstatic
C can include C, Objective-C and C++ depending on your choices
You just became a quoter @Gemstatic :P
Well, I know I can become awesome
20:49
I want to pick up C++ and C after Java
C first
or in parallel with Java
if you don't get C, don't try C++
I wanna pick up C++ too
A lot of people don't have that part of the brain where they just "get" pointers and pointer arithmetic
20:49
I got a C++ book called C++ primer lying on my shelf never went past page 28 lol
I did C++ in senior high. I liked it and I want to do more
I did some c++ on my own
Don't we have pointers in Java @Kylar?
No
@Kylar What do you mean by pointer
My goal is to become a Java expert and know data structures and algorithms on top of my head
and obviously a C and C++ expert
20:51
I want to make good, safe and readable code
So even the retard programmers can work with it
But I saw a vid on youtube where a guy says one should also know a functional programming language
Java 8 <3
2
@Gemstatic I always do that. I like to see my owncode elegant so I make it simple for myself first. :P
I try, but I'm too much of a n00b to know for sure if it's pretty or not
@Gemstatic you in college as well?
20:53
Career school
4 weeks in
What's a career school?
It's a school focused on a career, it's on uni-like level but isn't uni
When I first started programming, I started with good variable naming and I thought I had my own style of writing variables
then I joined college and did the same thing in python semester 1
@Gemtastic a pointer is a memory address that "points" to a variable. in C, you have to manage memory allocation and release on your own. And a tip: the word "retarded" can be very offensive in the US and Canada, depending on who you speak to
then in semester 2 when doing java the lecturer called this camel case and i was butthurt
@Gemstatic ohh I see
when you program u usually get butthurt that;s the thing I hate
I remember making my slick idea of making a php script that auto install my site and auto creates my tables and another php file with my db info.
Then I found out wordpress and others did this years ago
such butthurt ;-;
20:57
@Kylar I appologize for my choice of words
Oh, you don't need to apologize to me
That's just a heads up
;)
I always thought retarded is a troll word
"You just went full retard. Never go full retard" know this?
Yeah, it's my second language after all. I don't keep up with what words are offensive and why, though I try
xD
I stalked @Gemstatic and this is what I found: Rooms

Java
Trash
To me "retarded" does not refer to someone who has a disability or impairment in any way, just normal people who are dumb
20:59
O_o
One does not simply go to Trash xD
Ok peeps, I'm heading out shortly
Have a good weekend
I'm new to this site ok, it said I was invited to a room
See ya @Kylar enjoy the weekend.
Derp moment

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