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12:00
Because Venus rotates very slowly on its axis (taking 243 days to make a complete rotation), a day on Venus is longer than its year. (source)
12:11
what is the programm in which i can write/train Java coding?
I believe the easiest one to start with would be BlueJ?
ok, looks good. thank you.
@Zoe hi :)
Zoe
Zoe
Hiya
Quick question: when does Java implicitly cast objects of one type to another?
for casts to super types, autoboxing, autounboxing and for widening conversions between primitives
why was it hard to look that up in the JLS?
12:26
oh hey its vogel
whudjalookatthat
yea I came in here yesterday to ask / rant about maven and aether
How you doin' man?
and I didn't drop the tab this morning
Been a while!
No, he literally was here yesterday.
12:27
Fighting this [insert blue tirade here] legacy application
I mean since I've seen him
Been at least a year or somethin' at this point
eyeballBreaker
because you're blind lol ecksdee
leaves
@ballBreaker ya something like that.
we missed each other a few times
interestingly I ran into Gem the last time I was here
and she hadn't been here for quite a while either :D
@Vogel612 The reason I ask is because the way I understood it is objects get added as they are and then casted to whatever type you declare. But if I wrote something like
String a="";
int b=1;
String c=a+b;
this would still work even though a and b are different types. So my question is, when does Java do this kind of implicit casting?
that's not an implicit cast
12:31
Hm okay
@Zoe where can i ask you question regarding android?
the compiler automatically wraps the b into a String.valueOf
@Ramona in the android room
Alright
But it couldn't do the reverse I guess?
As in declaring int c = a+b;
again: help me help yourself.
how does the Java Language Spec not answer this question?
I know that document is hard to read and all, but it's the authoritative source on stuff like this
@Vogel612 Oh wow! haha how's school going? are you almost done now? If I remember correctly, you must have been there for almost .. 3 years now?
12:35
yea, I'm lagging behind a bit, but it's going well
I passed all the notorious knock-out lectures
now it's only wrapping up the Bachelor's and then enrolling into a Master's class
@Vogel612 I didn't know it existed. I don't find the conversion $\text{int} \to \text{String}$ on the documentation site though, maybe I'm just blind
But I see someone has asked the exact same question stackoverflow.com/questions/4105331/… so I'll just read there, cheers
@Lozansky in this case that's because it's not a conversion
The relevant section is the one about "String concatenation operator +"
/jls 15.18.1
Nice
@Vogel612 very nice man! how much left in the bachelors?
> Be Professional: We are responsible for the computer systems that society relies on more and more with every passing day. Please act as though that responsibility weighs heavily on you.
lol @Michael
Does programming keep you up at night?
That statement is so heavy
^ +1
12:50
@ballBreaker less than a handful of lectures and the thesis
@Vogel612 Ahh awesome man! Seems like just yesterday you were starting:)
I've been through three different jobs/companies in the meantime heh
oh wow
baha yeah
Quit the first, got laid off from the second
Now I'm in the better of the three companies so I can't complain
@Vogel612 can you examplain how I map path to url http^
?
@Doflamingo19 At the danger of repeating myself...
that depends on your particular setup
considering that you haven't told me anything about said setup, I'm afraid nobody can help you right now
12:56
I use maven web project with a tomcat
and how do you populate the routes?
and now my web.xml is this:
<web-app>


</web-app>
my web.xml is empty
the project is like an API functions
but when access to the URL of resources it gives me 404 but resources is created!
@ballBreaker Well, it's true.
I don't disagree I just think maybe the wording could be a little less... Idk lol
something like
Be professional: Act in this chatroom as you would act at work.

Might be easier to digest
Just my two cents
@Vogel612 damn!
13:08
damn what?
@Doflamingo19 Please do not curse in this christian java chatroom.
Look, you attracted a smurf :<
o.o
Heyho
Hey Hem :)
13:19
You ever just want to tell a coworker to go away because you haven't finished your coffee yet?
like jesus christ
Also this is highly entertaining
40
Q: Offensive language/behavior from co-worker in online game

Pillip FI am a fresh-out-of-college student and a huge gamer. I recently got a job towards the end of this summer and met my team, which consists of a number of people who are in their late 50s. As I am a huge gamer, I just go home after work and play online games or watch people play. I decided to play...

@ballBreaker it's better than feeling the constant low-key urge to slowly murder them for the atrocities in code they committed
bahahaha yeah fair enough
I'm the only software developer at my new company other than external contractors lol
should be intersting
@ballBreaker lmao
13:35
@geisterfurz007 What’s up?
Slacking eventhough I should do a lot of other stuff.
Haha. Sometimes slacking is fine
13:49
eclipse is hell
Eclipse is life.
Please don't kick me
I suppose the nice thing about it is that it's errors and complications are pretty well documented
♪♫♪♪♫♫♪
anything goes wrong theres typically an answer
swings foot
That's the good thing with IntelliJ: Stuff doesn't typically go wrong!
13:50
yeah I'd like to look into how much work it would be to migrate these apps to IntelliJ
probably a lot..
Hang on a second, will you. Gotta get a screenshot ready :)
You just import them and IntelliJ reads the eclipse config :)
If you have them configured as gradle or maven project even better! Import them and bang, ready.
@ballBreaker be glad you only have to deal with eclipse
OSGi is the hell of eclipse
morning all! I cant seem to find it on SO as a post already, but have any of you encountered software running differently in JUnit than in JRE??
13:55
define "differently"
Sounds like someone has a round of debugging in front of them O-o
well, its for an internal company program, and when I run a junit on the UI, the save button stops working, the save as stops working, and the open stops working
nooooo idea why because when I run that code as a java app, it works fine
Zoe
Zoe
How do you run junit on UI?
@ballBreaker There really is not a lot to do with migrating. I don't think you even have to install a lot of plugins. The only thing I installed so far was SonarLint as Linter and that's it.
we have functions to find/click buttons in the program to test functionality
sorry, "methods"
13:58
Has anyone by any chance worked with Processing?
@geisterfurz007 I'm doubting it's going to be that easy
What kind of EE/EJB support does IntelliJ have?
Does it support IBM WebSphere?
I'll just have to look into it, maybe it'll be easy, not sure
Well it's funny you ask! Not so funny for you, because that stuff is only included in the Ultimate Edition which costs a buttload o' money.
14:03
Yeah that's kind of what I figured haha
Hmm well next time I have some free time and once I'm more familiar with the projects I'll look into getting them running on IntelliJ
Can I change nicknames here as well? I would like to change Zoe into "Walking docs" please.
jetbrains.com/help/idea/java-ee.html Note the little message in the top right corner.
oof ouch owie
Only 499$ for the first year! Easy!
Zoe
Zoe
14:06
@geisterfurz007 Chat doesn't have nicknames
> Make sure that the following software is installed on your computer:

IntelliJ IDEA ULTIMATE Edition.
Java SE Development Kit (JDK), version 6 or later. Download Oracle JDK.
GlassFish Server, version 3.0.1 or later. Download GlassFish. (You can use any other Java EE-enabled application server. GlassFish is used here just as an example.)
A web browser.
oof ouch
cHAt DoESn'T hAvE NIcKnaMeS
Zoe
Zoe
@geisterfurz007 Now you're getting it!
I bet you already worked with it and just don't want to tell me Zoe.
yucky formatting it's expensive
v_V
14:08
No need to hide it, I already know!
No problem tho...
ouch that's USD too
@ballBreaker As a student you can use it "for educational purpose only" as well :)
Zoe
Zoe
@geisterfurz007 I've never used IntelliJ Ultimate
I meant processing.
Zoe
Zoe
what kind of processing?
14:08
But sure! Pretend that you don't know what I am talking 'bout >.>
Processing!
Zoe
Zoe
What type?
@Zoe Issa language
Zoe
Zoe
...
ZOE PLEASE!
Zoe
Zoe
14:09
Never touched it
wait, does that actually work?
let me try
Zoe
Zoe
@geisterfurz007 What's the problem?
@unknown No
No, it works
please try it
14:10
Best website! I lost a 4GB stick l a few weekends ago and still have 16GB as before!
One Weird Trick That The Computer Industry Doesn't Want You To Know
Zoe
Zoe
...
It stopped at 50%, guess 8GB RAM is already max on Windows 10... :/
Zoe
Zoe
@unknown Depends on your CPU
Vendors Hate This Super Easy Method Of Getting More Ram!
Zoe please.
14:11
@Zoe I have an Intel
unknown. Is. Writing. Bullshit.
shhh
Zoe
Zoe
2 mins ago, by Zoe
What type?
Intentionally.
Please.
Ignore it. If you cannot see it. Please.
This gives me a headache.
Zoe
Zoe
Also, you can actually use virtual RAM, but you don't need to use a website. And it's like considerably slower than hardware RAM
14:12
@Zoe I told you this a few times, most of what I write that could offend anyone, or appears to be stupid, is sarcasm.
And I know that aswell.
@geisterfurz007 Wir. Dienen. Deutschland.
I use a virtual motherboard
Also
I like turtles
@ballBreaker Haha "Also" - that's hilarious
My voting was cleared - why does vote clearance even exist?
huh?
Voting on what
I voted for "Also" - don't ask why
And some mod cleared it - and I find that a very weird thing to do
14:17
By voted, you mean, starred?
@unknown Because there are trolls that star every message and tools exist to undo that.
@ballBreaker Yes.
And as a matter of fact it wasn't a mod who cleared it :)
Hmm, I've never had that?
Mine just happens
Well someone's gotta fix the notifications then.
What notifications?
@geisterfurz007 Why did you remove it though?
14:18
You can clear stars?
@geisterfurz007 I revoted, and it said that I can't, because "a mod" removed it.
Roomowners can clear stars but for whatever dang reason only on the starboard on the right side.
@unknown That is not true then :D
Yeah, that is why I said that someone's gotta fix that notification text
It's misleading
It could drive people into murdering the wrong person
@unknown Because it makes no sense to have it on the starboard. Let me find a message by Michael on that topic.
@unknown Questionable comment.
@geisterfurz007 Just imagine you have a very angry and stressed human being in here, and a room owner, and a mod - the very angry and stressed human being stars a message, the roomowner deletes it, and the very angry and stressed human being assumes it was the mod.
14:21
This room has morphed, devolved, evolved, devolved, polymorphed, and changed so much in the past 5 years, it trips me out
@unknown How about that very angry and stressed human doesn't enter public places in that state of mind :)
@geisterfurz007 ya that's especially annoying on mobile, right?
@unknown deletion is a moderator ability. Feeds sometimes acts as moderator for flagged messages getting deleted by 10k users
In the mobile chat you cannot do anything useful anyway. You have to go on the absolutely horrible desktop site on your phone. I have done it a few times to move a message or two but usually I ask someone to ping me again, close the chat and have the push notification of the SE-app remind me of what I wanted to do once home.
I think you can kick people tho.
SO devs seem to completely ignore chat anyway tho. Better have some new default theme everywhere while the FAQ page of the chat still says this is under development and in early stage.
</rant>
I wish there was an "upload" button in the mobile chat
14:26
Make a feature-request on meta. That sure will be listened to ;)
I agree tho. The chat, both on mobile and desktop have a lot of stuff that can be improved upon.
I think I notice a slight hint of sarcasm
bleh.
I want to change the default Accept header sent by my webbrowser...
but alas, it's fixed and I won't go and compile my own chromium
@Vogel612 dafek? What do you have planned?
god it's been so long since I used eclipse, or JavaEE
Also: I bet there is a plugin/addon that can do some magic for you.
I forget how to even build a jar right now
14:29
Rightclick -> Export (unless you have a buildtool)
Trying to resolve a deployment descriptor issue
Yeah might do the trick
let's see if we can get this fixed lol
@geisterfurz007 I want to be able to request application/json data from the REST endpoint I'm rewriting without always going through Postman
There's an entire test project in here riddled with errors :\
My favorite HTTP Header is "Referer".
A plugin that adds a restclient to your browser wouldn't help either I guess? To be fair they are pretty much alike. What's the matter with Postman?
14:31
it's clunky and I haven't bothered to figure out the keyboard shortcuts to run a request
also it's a separate application
which is ... annoying
Pfair enough, yeah.
@Vogel612 So make a webpage that does just that
@JennaSloan gawd no
way too much effort
Or use Java's fancy new HTTP client ;)
gotta get Java 11 for that right?
We haven't even properly migrated to 8
14:33
Java 10 also has it but the one in 11 has more features I think I read in one of the JEPs
Yikes...
and we gotta do the module changes and migrate to java 9 before even considering upgrading further
@JennaSloan Cya later
I look forward to the day when I am once again helpful inside this chat
I will have a meeting with a coworker and one of our managers to figure out what we will do with the new release and license system of Jaba.
14:34
ewww licensing
Horrible word, eh?
I'm working on an eclipse project...
My condolences.
built some tooling for the CQ and compliance process
a damned mess
I am trying to come up with a 3D structure or layout or texture I can model with Processing.
14:37
cube?
or something more complicated?
I doubt he will let that count as some effort that went into it :D
tehee
test coverage over the directory tree by time
Zoe
Zoe
2
Q: Processing 3d object .obj import

UserKI'm trying to import 3d objects in Processing from .obj files found on the web. I've seen that there are several ways to import objs into the scene. I'm using PShape in this example and an obj file found here. I've started from the Examples>Basic>Shape>LoadDisplayObJ sample in which textures wo...

That doesn't count :D
Zoe
Zoe
/shrug
14:44
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I have to model it using beginShape();vertex();endShape();
Upvote me for science! — RageAgainstTheVirtualMachine 46 mins ago
Absolute madness that comment!
It got 3 upvotes from me (y)
15:11
I have another free lunch today
\o/
/working
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Ok good.
@ballBreaker Are you going to have some poutine?
@JennaSloan Welcome back!
15:14
@JennaSloan hmm probably not
I don't have it very often
usually just when I'm drunk :D
Yeah, exactly...
My brain is so fried....
Se I should know how to get the length of the red line if I know the y coordinate of it but I cannot recall how it works.
Excellent! Master "I know everything"! @Wietlol Please explain basic geometry to me because I am certainly too stupid for that stuff currently, I am afraid
a^2 + b^2 = c^2
DB2 is such garbage
IBM is horrendous
15:22
aka, basic geometry
@Wietlol I know that one!!! Doesn't work there tho.
calculating the red line assuming that the curviture is constant?
as in... a circle inside a square
Yah exactly!
where the diameter of the circle is the same as the width of the square
mhmm, mhm!
15:23
then try to calculate the length inside the circle
i think that is much easier
then substract that result from the diameter and divide by 2
izi pizi
I once had to do it the other way around...
given length x, how much of the circle would be cut off
then get the volume
it was horrendous
the volume? O-o
it was a ball in my case
where a cilinder is placed on top of it
then calculate the intersection area
15:25
this sounds like math
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO_o
0.o?
geometry circle chord
that is the name
for your case
Ok, I am so sorry but how do I get the length inside the circle?
geis you are a room owner contributing to off-topic conversation. Please act as though that responsibility weighs heavily on you.
15:27
lmao
Shut up ballBreaker :D
sorry
I'm turning this into a meme now
I cringed so hard when I read that, it has to be meme-ified
I agree :D
Reminds me that we need a meme page as well there.
lmao there are so many corny stock photos I can use for this
stock photos?! OFFTOPIC!!!!
So @Wietlol How do I get the red line?
:P
15:31
consider you have radius R
and distance from center to chord D
R is c^2
D = a^2
Too many letters! Where does c come from?
c is the speed of light, duh
Oh god not that guy. kss, kss, go away
I'll say good bye in 1h, and then I'm going to be gone for a while, let me annoy you a little til then
15:34
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a^2 + b^2 = c^2
@geisterfurz007 you can do this
//lmgtfy distance between two points on circle circumference
user8622974
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH! Now I see where you are going! Yes, yes, yes, I am totally with you now!
> I know that one!!! Doesn't work there tho.
- geisterfurz007, 27/09/2018
you dare defy MY knowledge?
15:36
Yo, I know my math! I only wrote 1.x grades in the exams c:
(Because I learned for the topic of the exam and forgot everything about it within 2 hours again.)
but you said that "a^2 + b^2 = c^2" had nothing to do with it
you threw away my halps before giving it a try
@Wietlol Of course I do! Let me write my code, blame you for it not working the way I wanted, find my bug and thank you later!
you monster
@geisterfurz007 that sounds more like Unknown
also, when I make a random comments that is at best appropriate 1% of the time, try to assume that it is correct
I have a hard time accepting that you know stuff ;)
I know, I know
wietlol.comments.foreach { geis.accept(it) }
this will help you
15:43
I refuse.
Ok I am still too 'tarded for that.
I hope you guys appreciate all the work I put into that meme
bill clinton yall
@ballBreaker I have a very limited amount of appreciation available, I will save it for something else, thank you
no u
Are you a depressed person, would you say?
@Wietlol Excuse me wtf
I'm just here to chat, I doubt that I ever seeked for anyone's help or even criticised it...
wwooorrrllldddsttaarrrrr
15:53
The first star was mine. Give me a cookie for making you famous.
"my car has a carpet" - Imagine having a pet in your car all the time.
Like - one specific pet for your car.
That would be a carpet.
mind = blown
@ballBreaker depressed? sure. person? no.

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